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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2020 - Q4
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Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Sterling Construction Company's Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and all participants are in a listen-only mode. There are accompanying slides on the Investor Relations section of the company's website.

Before turning the call over to Mr. Joe Cutillo, Sterling Construction's Chief Executive Officer, I will read the Safe Harbor statement. Some discussions made today may include forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from the statements made today.

Please refer to Sterling's most recent 10-K and 10-Q filings for a more complete description of Risk Factors that could affect these projections and assumptions. The company assumes no obligations to update forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise..

Joe Cutillo

Thank you, Donna and good morning. I'd like to start by thanking everyone for joining today's call. Well 2020 is over, but will not soon be forgotten. All of our market studies, all of our operational planning, and all of our risk assessments were thrown out the window.

Never in our wildest dreams did we imagine a global pandemic and the impacts it would have on all of us as we saw our everyday lives change overnight. We were banished to our homes. We closed our offices, our schools, and our stores. The everyday things we took for granted like stock grocery shelves, restaurants and toilet paper were gone.

No travel, no sports, and no entertainment. In the blink of an eye, we went from executing a well thought-out plan to navigating a ship in unchartered waters dealing with something completely unknown. It is in these times that leaders find out the true strength of their business and their people.

We got to see firsthand how nimble our teams were, how they would react to new and abnormal conditions, and how they would continue to take care of our customers. We watch them go above and beyond to keep their fellow employees safe, as well as take care of those in need and their communities.

For all leaders, 2020 was a year you either walked away proud or you walked away hoping to fight another day.

I'm happy to say, I'm walking away from 2020 prouder than ever, of the 3,000 Sterling employees, and their ability to band together, keep each other safe, take care of our customers, give back to our communities, and deliver another record year.

So instead of spending any more time talking about the challenges we faced, I'd like to focus on the victories we had. Let's start with the most important one, the safety of our people. In 2020, we have the safest work environment in our history.

In addition to implementing all new COVID-related protocols, to prevent or minimize the risk of transmittal, we reduced our recordable incident rate by over 40% and our lost time incident rate by over 20% making our lost time incident rate over 75% better than the industry average..

Ronald Ballschmiede

Thanks, Joe and good morning. I'm pleased to discuss our strong fourth quarter results and by almost all measures our record full-year performance. Our slide presentation, which has been posted to our website includes additional financial details to help understand our 2020 financial results.

The presentation also provides modeling considerations, which underpin our 2021 revenue and earnings guidance..

Joe Cutillo

Thanks, Ron. As much as I'd like to continue to talk about our 2020 results, it's time to move on to 2021. As we enter 2021, we're now in our sixth year of transforming our company and our culture.

Our overall strategy and the three core elements remain exactly the same as we continue to focus on bottom line growth, while reducing risk and building a platform for accretive future growth..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. . Our first question is coming from Zane Karimi of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead..

Zane Karimi

I guess first-off, just how disruptive has the weather been in 1Q in Texas in particular? Were you guys able to work through any of that or how is that impact looking?.

Joe Cutillo

Yes. So January was relatively normal. February was a disaster to be honest. In March, we had a couple of beautiful days, it's back in the 70s and 80s, little bit of rain, but March is off to a great start.

I think the important thing is February; we'll hit both our Tealstone and our Plateau businesses in the month of February because weather continues in the Southeast. However, those are the two best areas for us to get hit with temporary weather issues, because both of them have a combination of more makeup capacity.

But more importantly, their customer base is going to require them to get back on schedule and back on time. So they will run full-out. And if we have a really good March, should make up the majority of any hiccups in February, if not all of them and certainly we will be there as we get into April, worst case scenario. So that's the February was tough.

But I'll tell you, these guys are running 150 miles an hour, when the weather's good and they'll catch-up..

Zane Karimi

Great, there. And then I guess when we're thinking then about Specialty Services, we're not looking like sort of 2021.

How are those growth expectations really developing and how much work is out there in like data centers and distribution centers? What's the visibility at this stage?.

Joe Cutillo

Yes. Market continues to be very strong on I'll call it all three levels, the smaller local warehousing and distribution, the larger e-commerce warehouse and distribution and data centers. Frankly, the market is bigger today than we can take up and the growth rates.

As we said, as we're exiting 2020, the great news is Plateau had a barnburner year in 2020. When we bought the business, we took a look at kind of the growth rates over the next three years and we anticipated about 6% to 8% growth of that business.

They grew over 20% top-line last year versus their best year ever and ate up a lot of the human capital capacity they had in project management. So we very rapidly put in place a program not only to recruit, but to train new Project Managers. They're going to be adding a fair number of Project Managers in 2021.

And as those Project Managers come on, they think of it as somewhat of a program to bring them in and work under the best Project Managers so that they learn firsthand how to execute a Plateau way. Is that capacity continues to increase; they'll be able to increase.

But we think we're going to see kind of mid-single-digit growth in that business this year, the market would allow us to grow faster than that. Our biggest challenge is how fast can we ramp-up human capital to go after more of that market.

So no, concerns on the market right now, more of an internal, what I'll call resource capability issue and we're working diligently on that..

Zane Karimi

Great, thank you.

I guess last one for me then, think about cash flow, can it be as strong as in 2020 or near the same level?.

Joe Cutillo

Well, one of the problems we have is we're going to have to use some capital this year for Brinks trucks. We're going to have a very strong cash flow this year. Ron, you can -- you could speak more about it, but no reason to think that it wouldn't be any significantly different from prior-years..

Ronald Ballschmiede

Yes. I think that's the bottom line. I think certainly the cash flow from operations and EBITDA are up certainly starting with EBITDA up about almost in the mid-single-digits, little bit higher than that.

So that obviously will help as we've increased the activities of our land development business comes -- we continually need to always refresh our fleet. So just over $30 million, we spent in 2020; we think we'll up that to be in the probably closer to $35 million range, which is fine.

It's over half of that, well over half of that is driven by our land development side of our Specialty Services Group. But also we have roughly the duration of our backlog is -- it's longer than it's ever been. And what that means is we have at least for probably five projects still with north of $100 million in each with backlog.

And the nice thing is that sets us up nicely for not only revenues certainly achieving our plan, expectations of either plan, but also puts us in a good shape while entering 2022, so that all would cut out through that. We have a bit of capital to meet demand in the start-up of these projects, so about $35 million or so of our EBITDA..

Zane Karimi

Great. Thank you very much. And I'll jump back into queue..

Operator

Thank you. . Our next question is coming from Sean Eastman of KeyBanc. Please go ahead..

Alexander Dwyer

Hi, guys. This is Alex on for Sean. Congrats on the great year..

Joe Cutillo

Thanks..

Alexander Dwyer

So the Heavy Civil margins came in as a nice surprise relative to our model. I just wanted to get a sense on how you see the -- these margins in 2021 in the segment shaping up may be compared back to the levels we saw a couple of years ago.

And then maybe what is the overall margin expansion potential within this segment as it stands today?.

Joe Cutillo

Yes, I'll start at a high-level; let Ron give you some more details. But we anticipate the margins will continue to tick-up and get better as we go into 2021 in the Heavy Civil for a combination of a multitude of reasons.

One is that low bid shift; Sean that we've been working on diligently continues to shrink the LION's share of our projects backlog, not only our multi-year, but our alternative delivery. And the margins on those are usually three to four points higher in general. So we'll see those start to kick-in.

We'll continue to shrink the low bid and you get the, I'll call it the product mix impact to that and will continue to grow as we go into 2021.

Ron, you want to give any more detail on that?.

Ronald Ballschmiede

Yes, I think it's like Joe said, pretty much movement in mix, which is consistent what we're trying to do. And I think to hit off questions on growth in that side as we continue to shrink low bid revenues, so give or take about 5% of our $30 million and some lower low bid revenues expected in 2021 and 2020.

Obviously, that reduces our lowest margin returns, type of work. And then with the start-up and continuing to ramp-up these large jobs are all alternative delivery type delivery projects. So that by itself will continue to help that mix improve..

Joe Cutillo

And I think the other thing; the one last thing I'll say is we saw a little bit of low in the back half of last year on some of the aviation. And we've got some nice projects that we've won. And that's picking-up as we go into 2021. And that margin is obviously much better than the heavy highway across the board.

So we've got some good tailwinds in multiple areas to continue that trend into 2021, Sean..

Alexander Dwyer

Great. And then I just wanted to ask about how sustainable the Specialty Services margins are around this 14% operating income levels that you guys posted in 2020.

And then where you see this trending over the next couple of years and what are the biggest challenges would be?.

Joe Cutillo

Yes. I don't think that we're going to see them spike-up or go-up in any way, shape or form. Obviously, it's always challenging, it's more challenging to hold your margin than to lose it right. But I think they're going to stay relatively consistent from what we've seen in both bid activities projects in whether -- where we're executing them at.

So I would say kind of, I would say status quo, right. I don't think we're going to see a big increase. I don't think we're going to see a big decrease..

Alexander Dwyer

And one last one for me, I'm taking a look at the EBITDA and EPS guidance ranges.

And is there anything to point out that could swing the results from the high-end of the range to low end of the range, just understanding the major swing factors would be a helpful discussion?.

Joe Cutillo

Well, I think a couple of things that that would drive the range is we come into the year, we put the guidance together we don't have 100% of our year-locked and loaded. Now the nice thing is we just announced a very nice job, couple of days ago.

I'll tell you we're working diligently on two or three other really, really nice jobs for us in multiple sectors. And if those parts hit and we don't see any big pushes of projects or any major weather as we get into the back half of the year that swings us up to that top-end.

If we -- if couple of those parts don't hit, then we got some risk in the back half of the year that could swing us down towards that bottom..

Ronald Ballschmiede

Yes. And I'd -- I mentioned that great unsigned work entering into 2021 and well over 70% of that is going to be or already is under contract and meaning that we're in a turning curve, already, that's faster than we thought a month ago when we finished up our planning process.

So that that helps us feel good about the ranges we have and then we'll have to wait and see what this, everything from the economy, infrastructure builds everything else what it does for the balance of 2021.

But I think there probably upside is there as both the downsides just because you're well over in the mid-60s, almost 70% of our revenues are coming out of backlog in the Heavy Civil side of that. And, as Joe mentioned, the backlog or the business at Plateau continues to be strong..

Joe Cutillo

I would say this, Sean, after a year of a pandemic, which I would have never thought of, knew of or even heard of, you're a little bit cautious. But I feel by far the best at this point in time in a year that I've ever felt since being here on our abilities and outlook for the entire year..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up coming from Zane Karimi of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead..

Zane Karimi

Hey, Joe, Ron, one more time.

Could you talk a little bit more about M&A and how focused are you right now pursuing acquisitions and do you see more opportunity expanding your existing businesses organically into new territories?.

Joe Cutillo

Couple -- couple. We're actively getting back into the M&A business, right. And what I mean by that is we've been looking at tremendous amount of books and deals. Unfortunately, I mean here's the reality and hopefully you guys understand this. We're very picky.

We may look at hundreds of deals before we even get to the point where we go to the next level. And we're going to remain really picky. I would love for the right word. We have positioned ourselves from a balance sheet and debt perspective that we would be ready to do a nice either several tuck-ins or a very nice add-on.

But it's about timing, and it's about finding a deal. It's got to be accretive to us; it's got to be strategic to us. It's got to have great people, routes we're not interested in it, but we're working okay. And it always seems to take longer than you want. But we're actively looking.

On the expansion side as we look Plateau continues to kind of move what I'll call one incremental state. So they're now in Tennessee. They're looking at going into North of Virginia in the Baltimore; they started looking at some projects there. So they're on the one state move. They'll continue to expand geographically.

And then Tealstone, we still have tons of runway within the Houston market. But this year, we're really looking at and evaluating two other markets and discussing when do we start entering those markets. If I'm a betting person, I think that's a 2022 exercise. But we're trying to do the legwork and homework in 2021.

The Austin market is really, really strong right now which is probably an easier move for us because it's still in the State of Texas and it's a couple 100 miles from Dallas and a couple 100 miles from Houston.

But we're also looking at some other markets that are on the state that are rapidly growing, that we've had some key customers ask us to look at and tell them what it would take to expand into those markets..

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Cutillo for closing comments..

Joe Cutillo

Thank you, Donna. Thanks again everyone for joining our call today. If you have any follow-up questions or wish to schedule a call, please refer to the contact information provided in the press release associated with our Investor Relations Group at Sterling, or our partners at The Equity Group. Thanks again everybody and have a great day..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation and interest in Sterling Construction. You may now disconnect your lines and log-off the webcast and have a wonderful day..

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