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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q3
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Executives

Doug Hultquist - President and CEO Todd Gipple - EVP, COO and CFO.

Analysts

Nathan Race - Piper Jaffray Brian Martin - FIG Partners.

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the QCR Holdings Inc. Third Quarter 2017 Conference Call. Yesterday after market close, QCR distributed its third quarter press release and we hope that you have had an opportunity to review the results. If there is anyone on the call who has not received a copy, you may access it at the company's website www.qcrh.com.

With us today from management are Doug Hultquist, President and CEO; and Todd Gipple, Executive Vice President, COO and CFO. Management will provide a brief summary of the quarter and then we will open up the call to questions from analysts.

Before we begin the call, I would like to remind everyone that some of the information management will be providing today falls under the guidelines of forward-looking statements as defined by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

As part of these guidelines, I must point out that any statements made during this call concerning the company's hopes, beliefs, expectations, and predictions of the future our forward-looking statements and actual results could differ materially from those projected.

Additional information on these factors is included from time to time in the company's 10-K and 10-Q filings which may be obtained on the company's website or the SEC's website. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and will be accessible on the company's website until November 3, 2018. At this time, I will now turn over the call to Mr.

Doug Hultquist at QCR..

Doug Hultquist

Good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us today and I would like to welcome you to our quarterly earnings call for the quarter ended September 30, 2017.

Initially, I will recap some of the highlights for the third quarter and then we'll turn the call over to our Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer, Todd Gipple who will provide some additional color on our financial results.

Yesterday, we announced third quarter reported earnings of 7.9 million and diluted earnings per share of $0.58, with core earnings excluding acquisition related costs of 8.5 million and diluted earnings per share of $0.63. While core earnings were down slightly from the prior quarter, this was primarily due to three factors.

First, acquisition-related loan discount accretion was down 1.1 million from the second quarter. Second, swap fee income and gains from the sale of government guaranteed loans continued to be slow and was down slightly from Q2 levels. Finally, salaries of benefits and legal expense were elevated this quarter.

On a positive note, we continue to demonstrate very strong growth and further expanded our core net interest margin. Additionally, wealth management revenue continues to be strong and increased another 5% when comparing Q3 to Q2 and is up 18% on a year-over-year basis.

Earnings for the first nine months of the year were strong with core net income of $26.4 million and diluted earnings per share of $1.96 versus 20.6 million and $1.64 for the same period a year ago. This represents an increase in EPS of nearly 20% on a year-to-date basis.

We have made solid progress in further improving our return on average assets as our run rate is now 1.02% year-to-date compared to 0.94% for the first nine months of 2016. Right after the third quarter, we also announced the closing of our acquisition of Guaranty Bank and Trust company headquartered in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

We're very pleased to have the opportunity to combine the great people and clients of Guaranty with our existing Cedar Rapids Bank and Trust Charter and further strengthen our market position in the Cedar Rapids community. Before I ask Todd to provide some additional comments on our financial results, I did want to comment on a few items from Q3.

We again had very strong organic loan growth this past quarter of 19.2% on an annualized basis, with much of this growth in our C&I portfolio. This puts us at an annualized loan growth rate of 15% year-to-date which is higher than our targeted growth rate of 10% to 12% annually.

We continue to have significant success taking market share from our competitors as we attract clients to our relationship-based community banking model. As discussed in our press release, non-performing assets increased this past quarter to 0.95% of total assets.

This increase was due to one large CRE credit in the amount of 9.7 million that was placed on non-accrual right at the end of Q3. We believe that this is an isolated issue and not indicative of any deterioration in the overall portfolio as other credit metrics remain strong.

We are working to acquire title to this property very quickly, so we can begin work to stabilize the project and as a result we anticipate the property moving into other real estate by year end.

Legal expenses for the past quarter are elevated due to a legal matter in Rockford where two bank officers have been charged with wrongdoing in connection with an SBA loan application. We anticipate these legal expenses will continue until the court proceedings are completed, which we expect sometime in 2018.

Neither Rockford Bank nor the company, were charged in the case. Our long-term focus is continued improvement in return on average assets. And our strategic goals and related strategic initiatives are focused on achieving our ROAA results in the upper quartile of our peer group.

We believe that we have made good progress on this strategic goal thus far in 2017 with the core ROAA of 1.04%. Now I will turn it over to Todd for more detail on our financial results for the quarter..

Todd Gipple

Thanks Doug, good morning everyone. Thanks again for joining us on the call today. I wanted to begin with a high level review of some of the key variances in our financial results on a linked quarter basis. These comments provide more color on the linked quarter results presented on page three of our press release financial tables.

Net interest income was up approximately $500,000 on a reported basis. If you remove the impact of loan discount accretion, which was actually down more than $1 million in Q3 versus Q2, our core net interest income grew more than $1.6 million on a linked quarter basis.

The solid increase in net interest income was driven by our continued strong loan growth and a further expanded core NIM percentage of 3.65% versus the Q2 core NIM percentage of 3.62%.

Provision expense was relatively flat this quarter, while we did see an increase in MPAs on a linked quarter basis and strong loan growth, absent the one large isolated loan moving to non-accrual we continue to see strong asset quality. Noninterest income was nearly identical on a linked quarter basis at $6.7 million.

Gains on the sale of government guaranteed loans were again negligible in Q3 at approximately $100,000. As we have experienced in past years given the nature and the timing of these types of loans, this revenue source can fluctuate significantly from quarter to quarter.

We have now had two consecutive quarters of modest results after reporting $951,000 in gains in Q1. Swap fees were also modest in Q3, down approximately 130,000 from Q2. Wealth management revenue continues to be very strong and grew another $130,000 in Q3.

Wealth management revenue is now up 18% year-over-year and we have added 297 new relationships and $303 million in assets under management thus far in 2017. We now have 3.4 billion in assets under management with 1.3 billion in trust assets, 956 million in brokerage and RIA accounts and 1.1 billion in custody assets.

Noninterest expenses increased in Q3 primarily in three areas. First, salaries and benefits increased 490,000 primarily due to filling open positions and some increased incentive compensation consistent with our strong loan growth and year-to-date operating results.

Second, professional and data processing fees were up 610,000 due primarily to increased legal fees as Doug discussed previously. Finally, we recorded 930,000 in acquisition and other one-time integration costs related to our acquisition that closed on October 1.

We will incur additional acquisition costs in Q4, but expect to have the majority of these costs wrapped by the end of 2017. Our tax rate was reduced slightly to just under 20% as we've recognized approximately 200,000 in tax benefit from the exercise of stock options in Q3.

The impact of these results was slightly reduced core net income on a linked quarter basis of 8.5 million in Q3 versus 8.7 million in Q2.

Core net income of 26.4 million for the first nine months of 2017 represents core ROAA of 1.04% and an efficiency ratio of 62.90% which we consider to be continued good progress on our goal of achieving upper quartile ROAA.

Core EPS for the first nine months of 2017 was $1.96 versus EPS of $1.64 for the same period in 2016, which as Doug mentioned earlier is an increase of approximately 20% in earnings per share.

As we look to the remainder of the year, we will continue to focus on our seven key initiatives, which we have highlighted in our filing; continue strong organic loan and lease growth to maintain our loans and leases to total assets ratio in a range of 73% to 78%, continue to focus on growing core deposits to maintain our reliance on wholesale funding at less than 15% of assets, focus on generating gains on the sale of USDA and SBA loans and fee income on swaps is a significant and consistent component of core revenue, grow management net income by at least 10% annually, carefully managed noninterest expense growth, maintain asset quality metrics at better than peer levels, and finally, participate as an acquirer in the consolidation taking place in our markets to further boost ROAA, improve our efficiency ratio, and increase earnings per share.

Strong progress on these seven initiatives over the past two years has resulted in significant improvement in our financial performance and the achievement of peer levels of ROAA. We will need to continue to execute on each of these initiatives to achieve our goal of upper quartile peer performance.

While it occurred just after quarter end, on October 1, we did continue to execute on our M&A initiative with the closing of the Guaranty Bank acquisition in the Cedar Rapids market. Guaranty Bank's long legacy of great bankers, exceptional client service, and support of the community had a strong corporal fit with Cedar Rapids Bank and Trust.

This negotiated transaction was a great outcome for our now combined shareholders as it further strengthens our position as the dominant community bank in Cedar Rapids and adds talented people and important clients to our company.

With this transaction, we have added 196 million in loans, 212 million in core deposits priced at 33 basis points and 178 million in assets under management to our wealth management platform. We are pleased to welcome the employees, clients and shareholders of Guaranty Bank to our company. Now I'll turn it back to Doug to wrap up..

Doug Hultquist

Thanks Todd. I hope that our comments have provided a bit more insight into the numbers. We can now open the phone lines for questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question will come from Jeff Rulis of D.A. Davidson..

Unidentified Analyst

This is Matt on for Jeff. A question about fee income, swap income and loan gain sales were lower than expected. And I know you said that this line item can be volatile, but from my understanding they generally tend to be higher in 3Q due to seasonality.

Why didn't that occur this time around?.

Todd Gipple

This is Todd, great question. And tends to be less about seasonality and more just about the choppy nature of these deals. And just to recap, we had total of around 286,000 from all three components of that fee revenue or that fee income in Q3 down from around 400,000 in Q2. We actually had a fast start of a little over 1 million a Q1.

So it tends to be less about seasonality, more just about the choppy nature of getting these deals done. We don't typically provide a lot of color on the forward expectations here. But I can tell you that we are expecting much stronger results here in Q4 based on deals that have already been booked here in October in the pipeline.

So, little less about seasonality, more just about some of these deals being very large in nature and hard to get to the finish line hope that makes sense..

Unidentified Analyst

Moving on to loan growth, you said that 4Q growth would be at a more normalized level, could you quantify that for us..

Todd Gipple

I think realistically, back to back quarters of 19% would be at the very high end of our expectations. And while we're very pleased with that, I don't know that we could say that that pace would continue.

I think we're going to have a very strong year this year considering what we've accomplished in the first three quarters, but it's not likely we're going to have a third quarter of 19%..

Unidentified Analyst

So would you say maybe mid to high single digits annualized for the fourth quarter?.

Todd Gipple

Yeah. We don't typically provide forward guidance on loan growth, but I would suggest that based on pipelines, we certainly don't expect this to fall off a cliff in Q4, just to be down from the 19% range. So we're 15% year-to-date. Our typical range has been over the last three years 10% to 12%.

My guess is we might migrate back down a little closer to the upper end of the range versus increasing the 15%..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Nathan Race of Piper Jaffray..

Nathan Race

Just wanted to start on the expenses.

It sounds like there is still going to be a little of it based on what's transpired in Rockford here, but I was just curious kind of in terms of when you guys expect to convert Guaranty here in the fourth quarter and then kind of what you are thinking about in terms of a normalized expense run rate as we get into the early 18?.

Todd Gipple

Sure, Nate. The good news is we expect to convert Guaranty on December 2. We've had that scheduled for some time and as you know that has a pretty long cycle in terms of schedule. At that point, we'd be merging the Guaranty bank into CRBT.

We will not have all the expected cost saves implemented by year end, but the vast majority of those should be accomplished by year end, some will leak into the early part of '18, but probably best to think about it that we're bringing on a roughly 250 million in assets. We expect this to be accretive to ROA.

So somewhere in the 105 to 110 basis points range once converted, once all the saves are implemented. So we expect that to announce 30% cost saves number to be primarily cooked in by 12/31, might roll a little bit into Q1 of '18, but our expectation is to have things moving along pretty efficiently early in the year..

Nathan Race

And then kind of just changing gears and thinking about credit quality this quarter, would appreciate any other color in terms of what - it looks like this credit was Quad City Banking Trust, so just curious any other details around the underlying collateral, what industry it is and so forth?.

Doug Hultquist

Yeah. Nate, it's Doug. And typically, we don't provide information regarding the borrower. This was one that had paid as agreed for three years and due to some political issues, the developer decided they weren't going to continue to invest in the property.

So next couple of weeks, we'll get through all the legal matters and get working on better performance out of that property..

Nathan Race

And just lastly just thinking about deposit growth, obviously it's slowed a little bit relative to last quarter.

So just thinking about what the pipeline looks like in terms of bringing on some decent sized core deposit relationships going forward and kind of how you guys are thinking about just the overall funding opportunities? It looks like float balances increased a little bit sequentially, so just curious how you guys are thinking about fundamental growth in to 2018?.

Todd Gipple

Sure, Nate. Great question. Growing loans at 19% did stress our funding a bit and our liquidity after doing it back to back quarters. And you're right, we did have to find a bit more of that growth in Q3 with wholesale than we typically like. Primarily that was overnight borrowings at FHLB. We ended the quarter at roughly 110 million in those borrowings.

Good news is deposit growth has started to catch up here in Q4 already and those borrowings are primarily paid off and paid down and we're back to relying much more on core funding.

We did talk about last quarter that we had some big wins in the Quad City market in terms of some very large deposit relationships and part of the benefit here in Q4 has been that transition has started on a couple of those large relationships. They're roughly 100 million to 120 million in size.

We've got about 40 million of that moved over now, but more to come and that bodes well for our shift back down into more core funding versus wholesale. But it was elevated at the end of the quarter, has since been paid down a fair amount..

Operator

The next question will come from Brian Martin of FIG Partners..

Brian Martin

Hey, Todd, maybe could you just or maybe Doug, I guess, I'm not sure the - just the added expenses this quarter as we think about that legal component.

I mean, can you strip out I guess just a range of how much is additional this quarter and when you look at the expense line that maybe will be continued for a couple of quarters, but just as far as kind of a core number versus what was additive for what may be ongoing up in Rockford for a little bit?.

Todd Gipple

Yeah. Sure can, Brian. And the good news is what I think everyone is most interested in and you certainly would be most interested in is where this goes from here. We have burned through the retention amount on our insurance coverage here. So now, we're going to start seeing some recovery from insurance proceeds on this litigation matter.

And candidly going forward, we expect this to be very neutral to the expense line going forward. What I'm really trying to say is now that we're in a bit of arrears in recovery, on the insurance proceeds and those are going to start coming in here in Q4, we expect that to pretty much mirror what we're going to be spending on a go forward basis.

So I believe Q3, we saw an increase of roughly 400K in those legal expenses, primarily due to just production of documents. And I don't anticipate this being a drag on earnings going forward, if that makes sense..

Brian Martin

Yes. I guess, but we should assume at some point in '18, it should kind of more moderate and I think the level last quarter was around a little bit under 2.5 million, so maybe it kind of goes back more to that level as kind of things work themselves out as you get into '18, later on '18 maybe..

Todd Gipple

Certainly..

Brian Martin

Okay. Fair enough.

And then just is there anything on the SBA, USDA and I guess when you kind of look at the trends that are going on in that market today and kind of the swap income, I mean is there any need to, I guess, it sounds like fourth quarter is strong, but as far as opportunities, how is that business I guess doing and you're still optimistic longer term that you kind of achieve the targets you have out there, just some lumpiness this year, maybe you don't get to quite the level you normally would expect to get to, just trying to understand how that business is doing..

Doug Hultquist

Yeah. That's a good question Brian. And as you know, it's very unpredictable. We're finding more of our competitors are doing small business loans conventionally that we would have preferred to do with the SBA and we've also found as we've mentioned before with the USDA, they're typically large projects and take a lot of time to come to consummation.

So very difficult to predict.

Really expected swap income to be higher because if you think about what's going on, and what the Fed said yesterday and so forth or Wednesday, should be a good time for the borrowers to be fixing rates and I think we're off to a good start in Q4 and hope that continues, but we're out there talking to our commercial borrowers all the time about the opportunity that we think they should be considering taking advantage of..

Brian Martin

Okay. Fair enough. And just back to the SBA for a minute, are there opportunities to add folks? I mean, you talked about hiring this quarter, Doug.

I guess, I don't know, were these more producers you hired this quarter, was it more operational and were any of them tied to the SBA kind of unit or is it more broadly maybe on the commercial side?.

Doug Hultquist

Yeah. Pretty broadly as I look at the list Brian and really nothing on SBA. We've actually contemplated doing some outsourcing of that function but I haven't decided if that's quite the right path yet or not either..

Brian Martin

Okay. And the hiring you did this quarter, you kind of called out in the release.

Is most of that reflected in the salary line this quarter, so I guess it is not additive to the fourth quarter from whoever came aboard?.

Doug Hultquist

Yeah. I think we would not expect another big jump in Q4 in that line item. We have most of that cooked in to Q3. It was really primarily filling some open positions that we've carried through Q2..

Brian Martin

And then just maybe for you Todd, just on the margin and kind of how you're thinking about it here as kind of both the core margin and just kind of the accretion piece that was down a fair amount this quarter.

Can you give any context on just kind of how you're thinking about, it sounds like the borrowings have come down a bit in the fourth quarter thus far, so it seems like maybe there's a little bit of benefit there on the margin side if you're shifting that mix and maybe just the Fed increase in the accretion, just whatever commentary you can offer on the margin would be helpful?.

Todd Gipple

You bet, Brian and you're right. We do see some upside in margin here in Q4 again from reduced reliance on those overnights that we had on the books at the end of the quarter. Guaranty is going to help us there too, public information in their call report, but their margin at 3.74 is a touch higher than our 3.65 at the end of the quarter.

When we get that all blended in, that will immediately add a basis point to our consolidated margin. We do expect some other improvements to come as mix changes on funding and we see some other traction in terms of the loans booked in Q3, helping us.

So our expectations are that we will continue to see some modest margin expansion on a core basis and we're very pleased about that. The wild card as we all know in terms of net interest income dollars happens to be well discount accretion.

And so in this third quarter, it was really the first time we didn't see any accelerated accretion out of that portfolio at CSB. So it was very much just the steady normalized accretion, a little over 600,000 of that in Q3. Right now, our expectation is around 600K in Q4, coming off that portfolio absent any other one-time acceleration.

And then of course, if that wasn't complex enough, we all know that we're going to have a similar accretion issue when we get Guaranty booked here in Q4 and we're working on those numbers as you might guess and we'll have that all polished up when we report Q4..

Brian Martin

And maybe the last thing and I'll hop off, just from an M&A perspective, now that you've, I guess, you've continued to work through Guaranty here and kind of get it to the finish line as far as getting them integrated and converted, I guess are there still good opportunities you guys are seeing out there from an M&A perspective and maybe just talk - maybe it's more for Doug, just kind of big picture how you're thinking about M&A as you get into '18?.

Doug Hultquist

Yeah. We're still certainly interested, Brian and had some conversations with a few folks, which we always do, try to keep those pipelines open. Nothing imminent obviously, but we continue to see the advantage of scale in the right markets. So we will be open to continuing down that path..

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Doug Hultquist for any closing remarks..

Doug Hultquist

Well, I appreciate all your interest. Obviously, we're hoping for somewhat better results, but hopefully, we were able to explain where the short pause occurred and we still feel good heading into the fourth quarter. So appreciate all your interest and support and have a good weekend everybody..

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines. Have a great day..

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