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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q4
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Executives

Effie Veres - FTI Consulting John Van Heel - President and CEO Cathy D'Amico - CFO Rob Gross - Executive Chairman.

Analysts

Bret Jordan - BB&T Capital Markets Rick Nelson - Stephens Anthony Deem - KeyBanc Capital Markets James Albertine - Stifel Robert Higginbotham - SunTrust Michael Montani - Evercore Scott Stember - C.L. King.

Operator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Monro Muffler Brake’s Earnings Conference Call for the Fourth Quarter of Fiscal 2015. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time.

[Operator Instructions] And as a reminder ladies and gentlemen, this conference call is being recorded and may not be reproduced in whole or in part without permission from the Company. I’d now like to introduce Ms. Effie Veres of FTI Consulting. Please go ahead..

Effie Veres

Thank you. Hello everyone, and thank you for joining us on this morning’s call. I’d just like to remind you that on this morning’s call, management may reiterate forward-looking statements made in today’s release.

In accordance with the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, I’d like to call your attention to the risks and uncertainties related to these statements, which are more fully described in the press release and the Company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

These risks and uncertainties include, but are not necessarily limited to uncertainties affecting retail generally such as consumer confidence and demand for auto repair, risks relating to leverage and debt service, including sensitivity to fluctuations in interest rates, dependence on and competition within the primary markets in which the Company’s stores are located and the need for and costs associated with store renovations and other capital expenditures.

The Company undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to these forward-looking statements that may be made to reflect events or circumstances after the date hereof or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

The inclusion of any statement in this call does not constitute an admission by Monro or any other person that the events or circumstances described in such statements are material.

Joining us for this morning’s call from management are John Van Heel, President and Chief Executive Officer; Cathy D’Amico, Chief Financial Officer; and Rob Gross, Executive Chairman. With these formalities out of the way, I’d like to turn the call over to John van Hell. John, you may begin..

John Van Heel

website enhancements to improve the effectiveness of our search engine marketing and online tire search functionality coupled with the shift in spending to more efficient digital advertising; increased collection of customer emails, which allows Monro to communicate with our customers more effectively and efficiently.

This is expected to increase collection of customer service reviews that we can use to increase conversion in our searches and on our website, which will lead to higher store traffic and sales; significant improvements to our online appointment process, both on desktop and mobile devices to make it easier and quicker for customers to do business with any of our 999 stores.

This includes a direct tie-in to our point-of-sale system that will allow our store personnel to respond directly and instantaneously to our customers, a first for Monro; the launch of a new online tire ordering system for commercial customers local to our tire stores, providing them with better visibility into tire pricing and availability.

Their orders are communicated directly to our stores’ point-of-sales system, thereby increasing convenience, delivery speed, and tire sales, also a first for Monro. We have also increased our focus on revitalizing the basic building block of our traffic; oil changes.

We continue to drive traffic with our everyday low price oil change promotion, while increasing customer value by offering free service checks on breaks, tires, and batteries and more recently offering free wiper blades as well as additional discounts when customers open a Monro-branded credit card.

These high value promotions allow us to build trust and strengthen relationship with existing and new customers. As we have intensified our focus on these areas, we have identified many more opportunities to increase customer visits and sales and expand our digital capabilities.

To help us with these efforts, we’ve hired a new Senior Vice President of Consumer Branding and Digital Marketing along with a small group of dedicated staff that are responsible for quickly deploying digital technology improvement across our website and stores.

I expect these initiatives to have a positive impact on our traffic and sales and most importantly, profit this fiscal year, while driving more efficiency in our marketing spend, so that I don’t have to be so cautiously optimistic about things. With that said, let me turn to our results for the full year.

Fiscal 2015 comparable store sales declined 1.4%, reflecting deflationary pressure in our tire business that negatively impacted our overall comparable store sales by about 100 basis points. Comparable store tire sales for the year decreased 3% with units declining 1%.

The entire 200 basis point impact from deflation in fiscal 2015 can be attributed to the mix shift to lower price but more profitable import tires. For the year, these import tires represented 42% of unit sales, up from 33% in fiscal 2014.

I am pleased to report that the deflationary pressure on tire prices we experienced throughout fiscal 2015 mitigated in the fourth quarter and the combined impact of tire pricing mix turned positive in February and March, resulting in our highest quarterly gross profit dollars earned for tires for the year.

We expect higher regional prices to benefit comparable store tire sales in fiscal 2016 resulting in even higher gross profit dollars for tires. In May, the average retail price of tires sold is up 2% to 3% over our average for all of fiscal 2015.

In our service sales category, we were encouraged by the higher comparable store sales in alignments, brake and front end/shocks in fiscal 2015. Importantly, comparable store oil change traffic also increased during the fiscal year.

As I said, this is the building block of our business, enabling us to attract new customers and strengthen royalty with our existing customers. For the full year, gross margin increased 100 basis points to 39.5%, largely driven by lower material costs and strong labor cost controls.

Turning to G&A expenses, we continue to carefully manage costs while appropriately investing for growth. For the year, total operating expenses increased by 20 basis points to 27.2% of sales as a result of higher due diligence costs. Operating margin for the year improved 80 basis points with 12.3% of sales.

This was driven by improved sales in key high margin service categories, increased tire profitability, expense control and effective integration of our acquisitions. Turning to our fourth quarter, comparable store sales declined 2.6% due in large part to weather disruption particularly in February.

We estimate that this negatively impacted our fourth quarter comparable store sales by 2% versus last year. Overall traffic and sales across all categories were negatively impacted. The comparable store sales in March was flat compared to last year.

Despite the disappointing sales in the quarter, our focus on margins, cost control and acquisitions allowed us to increase our gross margin by 30 basis points and operating margin by 20 basis points enabling us to achieve the midpoints of our earnings per share guidance.

Our reported results for the fourth quarter included $0.01 of higher due diligence cost, $0.01 of costs related to the BJ store closures and $0.01 of lower proceeds from waste oil recycling. Now I would like to discuss our growth strategy.

In fiscal 2015, acquisitions added 81 locations with total annualized sales of approximately 85 million representing 10% annualized sales growth, including an eight-store acquisition located on the East Coast of Florida completed in March of 2015.

The fiscal 2015 acquisitions added three new contiguous states to the company's geographic footprint, including 17 stores in Michigan, 12 stores in Georgia and 52 stores in Florida.

Georgia and Florida are both very large markets and represent a significant opportunity for continued store growth while diversifying our exposure to North Central and North Eastern markets. The fiscal 2015 acquisitions had a sales mix of approximately 60% service and 40% tires.

Additionally, we are pleased to announce that in April we completed our first acquisition of fiscal 2016 with Car-X brand, a chain of 146 franchised locations operating in 10 states, three of which are new states for Monro. These stores are similar in volume and sales mix to our Monro Muffler Brake and Service stores.

They are owned and operated by 32 independent Car-X franchisees. Monro will act as the franchisor through a standard royalty agreement while Car-X remains a separate and independent brand and business within Monro. We are retaining the Car-X office in New Chicago as well as the employees there and in the field.

We will provide Car-X franchisees the benefit of Monro scale, resources and experience, which will drive higher profits for franchisees and will allow Monro to grow the Car-X brand.

Remember, as franchisor, we will report the royalty income we have received as sales revenue in-line with a standard royalty rate of 4% to 5%, but we will not report the gross store sales themselves. In fiscal 2016, we expect Car-X to be slightly accretive to earnings per share adding approximately $2 million in EBITDA.

As this transaction indicates, our approach to acquisitions remains flexible and opportunistic and our view of increasing market share is broad. Acquisitions not only increase Monro’s total sales and store count, but importantly also raise our purchasing power with vendors.

They allow us to further leverage distribution, advertising, field management and corporate overhead costs, all of which will help drive future operating margin expansion. The current operating environment continues to create favorable acquisition opportunities.

In the short-term, choppy sales trends and higher costs continue to weigh on smaller dealers, but the longer-term opportunity that we are acting on is that owners of independent tire dealers are at or near retirement age without an internal succession option.

We presently have more than 10 NDAs signed, which is the highest volume of acquisition opportunities we have had at any one time. We will be disappointed if the acquisitions in fiscal 2016 did not exceed our goal of 10% in annualized sales growth as outlined in our five-year plan.

Before I discuss our outlook for fiscal 2016, I want to remind everyone that in fiscal 2015, we exited 34 Monro Muffler Brake and Service stores located in BJ’s Wholesale Club location, including 26 during the fourth quarter.

Due to our high store density in these markets, we anticipate that a portion of these sales will transfer to near-by Monro location, where we will leverage existing fixed costs. Overall, we expect these store closures to have a minimal impact on our fiscal 2016 earnings. Now to the details of our outlook.

For fiscal 2016, taking into account anticipated sales contribution from our fiscal 2015 and ’16 completed acquisitions, the recent trends in our comparable store sales and impact to sales from the fiscal 2015 store closures, we expect total annual sales to be in the range of $935 million to $955 million.

This range assumes comparable store sales for the year of positive 1% to positive 3%. Turning to our expectations for cost of goods sold.

We believe that Monro’s overall tire costs will be down slightly in fiscal 2016, including related warehousing and logistic costs as we expect lower raw material costs, increasing competition among manufacturers and our ability to shift sourcing to suppliers outside of China to more than offset any impact from the recently implemented tariffs.

We expect tire costs to decline as the year progresses with more of the benefit to be realized during the second half of the fiscal year. We also believe that tire costs for smaller dealers will increase this year as they lack our ability to shift tire purchases to multiple vendors and also lack our increasing scale, advantage Monro.

We are also experiencing lower oil costs, however the lower prices in crude oil have reduced our waste oil recycling proceeds thereby offsetting a portion of the benefit. We expect the decline in net oil costs at current crude levels to be 1 million to 1.5 million in fiscal 2016 versus the prior year.

Based on these assumptions, we expect fiscal 2016 diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $2.00 to $2.20, an increase of 6% to 17% year-over-year versus $1.88 in fiscal 2015. This guidance includes a $0.12 to $0.17 contribution from recent acquisition.

As a result of lower costs, in fiscal 2016, we will need a comparable store sales increase of 1% to overcome inflation versus the 2% to 2.5% increase we have required in prior years. Remember, every 1% in comparable store sales above that inflation hurdle generates $0.07 in EPS.

The mid-point of our earnings guidance represents operating margin expansion of 80 BP for the fiscal year. Turning to the first quarter, comparable stores sales in April declined 1.8% versus a positive 2.2% last year. However, May comparable store sales month-to-date are up approximately 1% over an increase of 1.6% for the same period last year.

Based on these factors and easier comparisons in June, we expect first quarter comparable stores sales to be flat versus the prior year and total sales to be in the range of $234 million to $238 million.

We anticipate first quarter diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $0.55 to $0.59 versus $0.52 last year, driven by our recent acquisitions and margin improvement, partially offset by inflation on flat comparable store sales and higher due diligence costs.

I expect that our initiatives to improve our store execution, customer experience and marketing will begin to benefit our traffic and sales next quarter and accelerate as we move through the fiscal year.

Given our fragmented industry, we believe the steps we are taking will drive more customers into our stores where we know we are effective in managing margins and growing profits. Given our successful track record, I remain extremely confident in our ability to execute our proven growth strategy by leveraging our unique business model.

Additionally, long-term trends remain favorable for our business with 245 million vehicles on the road with a record high average age of 11.8 years of slowly declining population of service bays and customers choosing do-it-for-me service more frequently.

Importantly, for the first time, vehicles 13 years old and older accounted for 25% of our traffic. Furthermore, we are encouraged that these vehicles produce average ticket similar to our overall average ticket demonstrating that consumers continue to invest in and maintaining these vehicles even as they advance in age.

Also, our key competitive advantages are still in place, including our low cost operations, superior customer service and convenience along with our store density and two brand store strategy.

Our five-year plan remains unchanged and calls for on average 15% annual top-line growth, including 10% growth through acquisitions, 3% comps and 2% increase from greenfield stores.

Our acquisitions are generally dilutive to earnings in the first six months as we overcome due diligence and deal related costs, while working through the initial inventory and operational transition of these stores.

With cost savings and recovery in sales, results are generally breakeven to slightly accretive year one, and $0.09 to $0.12 accretive year two, and another $0.09 to $0.12 accretive year three. Over a five-year period, that should improve operating margins by approximately 300 basis points and deliver an average of 20% bottom line growth.

Our disciplined acquisition strategy is further strengthening our position in the marketplace and will continue to provide meaningful value to our shareholders for years to come.

To conclude, while we expect double-digit earnings growth in fiscal 2016, at the mid-point of our guidance, on top of the 40% total achieved in the last two years, I'm not content with our results. I want to reiterate positive trends that we continue to believe will favorably impact our bottom line in fiscal 2016.

These include, continued positive sales trends in key high margin service categories such as alignments, brakes, frond end shocks, and oil changes, and the positive impact to traffic and sales from our current initiatives.

A favorable tire pricing environment with tire inflation of 2% to 3%, which represents 100 basis points on overall comparable store sales. As a reminder, every $1 increase in gross profit per tire is $0.05 of EPS and 1% increase in units equates to $0.025 in EPS. Third, tire cost of goods in fiscal '16 that are down slightly versus fiscal 2015.

This will expand our cost advantage over competitors and provide opportunity for increased gross profit per tire.

At current barrel prices, a decline in oil costs of $1 million to $1.5 million in fiscal 2016, net of lower waste oil credits, significant sales and earnings contributions from our fiscal our 2014, '15 and recent 2016 acquisitions and additional acquisitions at attractive valuations.

I am also pleased to report that Rob Gross has entered into a new three-year agreement with the company. Rob will continue his role as Executive Chairman upon the expiration of his current employment agreement with Monro later this calendar.

We are extremely pleased and fortunate to have secured Rob’s continued involvement with Monro which is particularly important and timely given the significant acquisition opportunities that the company is evaluating and acting on. With that, I would to like thank each of our employees.

Monro's strong brand and financial success is the direct result of their hard work, consistent execution and superior customer service, which is an integral of Monro's compelling customer value proposition. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Cathy for more detailed review of our financial results.

Cathy?.

Cathy D'Amico

Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. Sales for the quarter increased 7.8% and $15.9 million. New stores, which we define as stores opened or acquired after March 30, 2013, added $24.6 million, including sales of $22.7 million from fiscal 2014 and 2015 acquired stores.

Comparable store sales decreased 2.6% and there was a decrease in sales from closed stores of approximately $3.6 million, largely related to the BJ stores closing. There were 91 selling days in both the current and prior year fourth quarters. Year-to-date sales increased $63.1 million and $7.6% to $894.5 million.

New stores contributed $78.8 million of the increase of which $70.5 million came from the fiscal 2014 and 2015 acquisitions. Partially offsetting this sales increase was the comparable store sales decrease of 1.4% and a decrease in sales from closed stores amounting to $9.4 million. There were 361 selling days in this and the last fiscal year.

At March 28, 2015, the company had 999 company-operated stores as compared with 953 stores at March 29, 2014. During the quarter ended March 2015, the company added 10 stores and closed 28. Year-to-date, we added 92 stores and closed 46, including the 34 BJ stores.

Gross profit for the quarter ended March 2015 was $83.7 million or 38.2% of sales as compared with $77 million or 37.9% of sales for the quarter ended March 2014.

The increase in gross profit for the quarter ended March 28, 2015 as a percentage of sales is due to a decrease in labor cost as compared to the prior year quarter through continued focus on payroll control as well as a slight decrease in distribution and occupancy costs.

Total material costs including outside purchases were flat as a percent of sales as compared to the prior year quarter. New stores generally put pressure on margins as we work through their opening inventories and work on getting the right mix of product in those stores.

However, on a comparable store basis, total material costs decreased meaningfully from the prior year. Gross profit for the fiscal year ended March 2015 was $353.3 million or 39.5% of sales as compared with $320 million or 38.5% of sales for the fiscal year ended March 2014.

The increase in gross profit for fiscal 2015 as a percentage of sales is due to a decrease in total material cost as compared to the prior year particularly in tires. Labor costs were relatively flat for the full year as a percentage of sales as compared to the prior year.

Labor productivity, as measured by sales per man hour, improved slightly over the prior year.

Partially offsetting this gross profit improvement was an increase in distribution and occupancy costs as compared to the comparable period in the prior year, in part due to increased warehousing costs related to building inventory [indiscernible] to lower the impact on overall tire costs.

Operating expenses for the quarter ended March 2015 increased $4.5 million and were $60.2 million or 27.5% of sales as compared with $55.6 million or 27.4% of sales for the quarter ended March 2014.

The increase as a percentage of sales is due to the decline in comparable store sales in the quarter as well as an increase in due diligence costs as compared to the prior year quarter, partially offset by focused cost control.

For the full fiscal year, operating expenses increased by $18.9 million to $243.6 million or 27.2% of sales from $224.6 million or 27% of sales through the prior year for similar reasons as described for our fourth quarter of this year.

Operating income for the quarter ended March 2015 of $23.5 million increased by 9.8% as compared to operating income of approximately $21.4 million for the quarter ended March 2014, an increase as a percentage of sales from 10.5% to 10.7%.

Operating income for the fiscal year ended March 2015 of approximately $109.8 million increased by 15.1% as compared to operating income of approximately $95.3 million for the fiscal year ended March 2014, an increase as a percentage of sales from 11.5% to 12.3%.

Net interest expense for the quarter ended March 2015 at 1.6% of sales increased to $1.1 million as compared to the same period last year, which was at 1.2% of sales. Weighted average debt outstanding as compared to the fourth quarter of last year increased by approximately $79 million.

There was an increase in capital reset recorded in connection with the 2014 and 2015 acquisitions as well as an increase in debt outstanding under our revolving credit facility to fund the purchase of these acquisitions. These weighted average interest rate also increased by approximately 20 basis points from the prior year.

For the fiscal year ended March 2015, interest expense increased by $1.9 million, an increase of 0.2% as a percentage of sales as compared to the prior year. Weighted average debt increased by approximately $46 million and weighted average interest rate decreased by about 10 basis points.

Effective tax rate was 37.5% of pretax income for the quarter ended March 2015 and 37.6% for the quarter ended March 2014. For the full fiscal year 2015, taxes were 37.8% of pretax income as compared to 37.1% last year. Net income for the current quarter of $12.6 million increased 5.4% over net income for the quarter ended March 2014.

Earnings per share on a diluted basis of $0.38, increased 5.6% as compared to last year’s $0.36. For the fiscal year ended March 2015, net income of $61.8 million increased 13.5% and diluted earnings per share increased 12.6% from $1.67 to $1.88. Moving on to our balance sheet. It continues to be strong.

Our current ratio of 1.1:1.0 is comparable to fiscal 2014. During this fiscal year, we generated approximately $130 million of cash flow from operating activities and increased borrowings under our revolver by approximately $17 million.

We used these borrowing and cash flow from operating activities to finance our fiscal 2015 acquisitions and new stores, which added 92 stores during the year. At the end of the fiscal year, debt consisted of $123 million of outstanding revolver debt and $142 million of capital leases and financing obligations.

As a result of the fiscal 2015 borrowings, our debt-to-capital ratio, including capital leases, increased to 36% at March 2015 from 32% at March 2014. Without capital and financing leases, our debt-to-capital ratio was 21% at the end of December 2015 and 20% at the end of March 2014.

Under our revolving credit facility, we have $250 million that is committed through December of 2017. Additionally, we have $75 million accordion feature included in the revolving credit agreement. We are currently borrowing at LIBOR plus 125 basis points and have approximately $104 million of availability not counting the accordion.

We are fully compliant with all of our debt covenants and have plenty of room under our financial covenants to add additional debt for acquisitions without any problem. All of this as well as the flexibility built into our debt agreement continues to make it easier for us to get acquisitions done quickly.

During the fiscal year, we spend approximately $35 million on CapEx, including about $8 million in the fourth quarter. Store acquisitions used another $84 million of cash. Depreciation and amortization totaled approximately $36 million, divided roughly evenly between among all four quarters. And we received $9 million from the exercise of stock option.

We paid about $17 million in dividends. Inventory is up at year-end approximately $5 million as compared to March 2014, largely due to inventory for acquired stores and the purchase of import tires to get ahead of the tariff.

Due to effective overall inventory management, however, inventory turns for the rolling 12 months ended March 2015 were relatively flat as compared to last year. Spanning on the guidance for our fiscal year 2016, as John said, we expect sales in the range of $935 million to $955 million; this reflects 1% to 3% comparable store sales increase.

Operating margin is expected to increase by 50 basis points to 120 basis points. Interest expense should be about $11 million before any adjustments to true-up acquisition accounting for potential capital leases. However, any such adjustment would result in a reduction to occupancy costs and costs of sale.

EBITDA should be in the range of $153 million to $164 million. Depreciation and amortization should be about $36 million. CapEx should be approximately $31 million. Maintenance CapEx will be about $24 million with the remainder for new stores. The tax rate to be about 38% for the year, with some fluctuations between quarters.

That concludes my formal remarks on the financial statements and with that, I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions.

Operator?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Bret Jordan from BB&T Capital Markets..

Bret Jordan

Hey, good morning guys..

John Van Heel

Good morning Bret..

Bret Jordan

John, I got it a second late; did you say what the comp impact from outright store closure was in Q4?.

John Van Heel

Yes, it was 200 basis points..

Bret Jordan

Okay, great.

And then, I guess as we look at Car-X and the past, the deal that was related to Midas, do you have the opinion to sell them tires and/or parts within that franchise agreement?.

John Van Heel

Yes, absolutely, we think that what we do for our 1,000 company-operated stores has a lot of benefit from the Car-X franchisees and business, so absolutely we will put that to work to benefit their business which will allow us to grow the chain.

If you recall in 2012, we bought 17 stores from Tuffy Car-X and this is sort of the pay off, the idea was there was we will potentially have this kind of an opportunity down the road and it worked out that way, so I'm looking forward to improving their business, growing the chain to the benefit of the franchisees and Monro..

Bret Jordan

And I guess, when we think about that from a distribution standpoint as you've got more store base in the Southeast and maybe towards the South, moving a little bit West, at what point do you need to put another distribution center into the network?.

John Van Heel

We've talked about that in Florida sort of in particular, I think we need to hit triple digit number of stores down there for us to look at that..

Bret Jordan

Okay. And then one final question.

We look at current Q1 comp expectations, and I guess given the favorable pricing trend year-over-year and what should be maybe some accumulated demand from a tough winter and miles driven, what are the puts and takes to get to a flat comp? And I guess, we are against the plus 1 in the prior year, but I guess what are the moving parts this quarter?.

John Van Heel

Yeah, the tire pricing is certainly a help. We are up against down 1 in June, so basically we need to run up a couple of percent in June to get to something above flat. And I think really the opportunity that we have is that we comped in June.

That relates the same way to the rest of the year, we are up against down 2 for the rest of the year and we’re going into that with coming off of a positive oil change traffic for the last two years and with positive inflation on the tire side, which is the opposite of what we had last year.

So that’s really the opportunity for the remainder of the quarter and for the rest of the year. .

Bret Jordan

Okay. And I got one last housekeeping.

What’s the monthly progression on Q4’s comp?.

John Van Heel

So Q4 was -- down 2.5% in January, down 5% in February and flat in March. .

Bret Jordan

Okay, great. Thank you. .

Operator

We will go next to Rick Nelson with Stephens..

Rick Nelson

Thanks, good morning. .

John Van Heel

Good morning Rick. .

Rick Nelson

Turning to our long-term growth target, 20% EPS growth this morning, why should this be below trend here. We’ve got harsh winter, tire price inflation, actually [indiscernible] acquisition pipeline seems to be very good.

What are the pressures?.

John Van Heel

Well, I think coming off of last year and Q4 with the start we’ve had, we are trying to put a number out there that we can hit.

I think that is a big piece of it, and what I am looking for is to show that the inflation that we have on the tire side will stick and that the initiatives that we’ve got underway will help us produce traffic in sales, so I guess we’re trying to make sure that we are reasonably conservative given what we’ve got at the start of this year, which is a April that’s down on top of a positive last year and May that is ahead.

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Rob Gross

Yeah, Rick, we do a good job making more money.

I think the focus as John articulated in the call is, it’s about time for us to generate some comp store sales and we are going to do that not at the cost of profits, but again 1 to 3 comp for the year, it was better than we have been the last couple, so let’s get to that point, if we do that certainly we always protect the bottom line. .

Rick Nelson

In terms of the NDA, I think you mentioned you have more than 10 NDAs, if you could quantify that and a number of stores is in existing or new markets?.

John Van Heel

Yeah, they are within our markets and they – as I have said in the past, that trend level has represented more than one year of growth and certainly us having more than that still qualifies as well more than one year of growth. We see a lot of interest from independent dealers right now in transactions. .

Rick Nelson

I think you mentioned in the past, five to 40 stores --..

John Van Heel

Yes, generally that is the case. .

Rick Nelson

Is there some potentially bigger transactions out there?.

John Van Heel

Yeah, Rick, I would tell you that as we've said in the past, we are interested in anything that's at the right value for our shareholders, but we don't comment on rumors that might be swirling around..

Rick Nelson

Also I’m interested in the digital spend, what's required there? It sounds like a lot of improvements coming to the website et cetera if that's part of the incremental spending or that's just a shift in the spend..

John Van Heel

It's more of a shift. We are shifting – what we are finding in the digital area is that we are getting more efficiency out of our spend. We certainly needed to add some resources in terms of capability to our team and we've done that, again, globally as more of a shift in spend than an increase. .

Rick Nelson

Okay. Thanks a lot and good luck..

John Van Heel

Thank you..

Operator

We'll go next to Anthony Deem with KeyBanc Capital Markets..

Anthony Deem

Hi, good morning..

John Van Heel

Good morning..

Anthony Deem

So you did 15% acquisition growth in both fiscal 2013 and fiscal 2014. Fiscal 2015, you had 10% growth target. Historically the framework has been on 10% acquisition growth, $0.09 to $0.12 EPS accretion after years two and three of integration. So it seems to suggest to me that the number should be higher than the $0.12 to $0.17.

I am just wondering if you can reconcile that disconnect for me, perhaps quantify any dilution from recent deals, incorporate into that $0.12 to $0.17 accretion number..

John Van Heel

Yeah, I think when you look at it, that relates to the fiscal '14 and '15 acquisitions. The fiscal '13 acquisitions were in our comps this year.

So perhaps a bit of that is some comp pressure on those, but if you look at the 5% that we did in fiscal '14 and the 10% that we did in fiscal '15 and you look at those numbers, I think you will find it tied into the $0.09 to $0.12 accretion. That’s the accretion standard that we give for the 10% acquisition growth.

Sorry, I need to be specific in that..

Anthony Deem

Okay. Then shifting to Car-X..

Rob Gross

You got that Anthony. This is the third year which we talked about materializers, but it then becomes part of the comp base so we don't address in that way. .

Anthony Deem

Okay, very good. Thank you very much for clarifying that..

John Van Heel

If you want to think about it that way, we again this year had a 1% comp hurdle rate for accretion on the comp store sales side. So the business is producing that 1% hurdle rate instead of a 2% to 2.5% rate and that's a follow-on benefit from those prior acquisitions..

Anthony Deem

Okay, thanks for clarifying that.

On Car-X, I am wondering if you can share what you paid and also strategically, can you talk to your longer term ownership intentions of these franchises? Are there opportunities to buyout these franchisees and also do you see more opportunities in the marketplace to buy franchise chains?.

John Van Heel

So with regard to the purchase price, we don't disclose that. We do have to file reports and things where some of that information may be a part of. But with regard to the opportunities with franchise locations going forward, our primary objective is to go in, improve the business with what we have developed for 1,000 stores.

I think one of the difficulties of franchise systems themselves is that from time to time, there is a need to operate stores and I think certainly as we look at it, we view ourselves as much better placed to do that effectively than at least the prior situation with regard to the Car-X stores..

Anthony Deem

Okay.

The -- can you -- sorry if I missed this, what were tire units in the fourth quarter versus sales?.

John Van Heel

Tire units were down one in the fourth quarter..

Anthony Deem

Okay.

And then, also the 2016 outlook on tire units, what is incorporated into your comp outlook of 1 to 3?.

John Van Heel

Flat..

Anthony Deem

Okay. And then just lastly on 2016, what’s the interest expense we should model? Sorry, if I missed that..

Cathy D'Amico

It’s about $11 million, Anthony..

Anthony Deem

Thank you..

Cathy D'Amico

You’re welcome..

John Van Heel

Sure, thank you..

Operator

We’ll go next to James Albertine with Stifel..

James Albertine

Thanks for taking the questions and Rob, congratulations on signing on again for another three years. Look forward to continuing working with you..

Rob Gross

I look forward being here..

James Albertine

Two quick questions. One on the acquisition environment overall and the second one, just very quickly, another question on Car-X. The first on acquisitions.

Can you talk to sort of the trends in acquisition multiples as you are seeing them and if there is an increase and sort of interested acquirers out there, it seems like there has been some dynamic changes afoot rumored or otherwise? So, wanted to get your opinion on that? And then a quick follow-up on Car-X..

John Van Heel

In general, for the 5 to 40 store deals that we’ve been executing on, there is no change in the multiples that we see..

James Albertine

Okay.

Does that increase private equity interest, for example?.

John Van Heel

No. I’m sorry, I said there is no change in multiples that we’ve seen, maybe I didn’t understand your question..

James Albertine

So, multiples and then also in terms of the number of interested parties that are looking to consolidate the industry?.

John Van Heel

For those deals, we haven’t seen anything significant in terms of new entrants into that consolidation area..

Rob Gross

I think on the bigger deals, I mean, you saw private equity guy get involved to a percentage ownership with some of the $200 million or $300 million sales company that might preclude us as it did with that one for getting involved. We’re not going to be at the high end of the purchase range.

We will continue because it is prudent to offer a floor and growth at much less risk than upping our multiples.

And I think there is plenty of opportunity for us based on the number of deals, which was a record done last year and number of deals as well as what we see coming forward this year to grow the business by taking less risk and the higher the price you pay, the more risk is involved.

So, that means, we’re not going to get 300 store chains done or $300 million sales deals done. We’ll let others go into that space and we’ll see how that plays out..

James Albertine

Understood. I appreciate that additional color. And then the follow-up if I may, on Car-X, historically you’ve talked about sort of 800 to 1,500 basis point opportunities with respect to your target for acquisitions in terms of once you take control kind of rolling that up into sort of the mid-row operating margin target.

How do we think about sort of a franchise format kind of flowing through the model? We talked about royalty revenues but you’re also taking ownership of the headquarters and some labor. Just wanted to understand in a little bit more depth as possible kind of the flow through the system for those 146 stores..

John Van Heel

Yeah. First of all, that -- well, I guess the way we see growing profit there is primarily through opening new locations.

There is interest in the franchisee group to open new locations, we can support that, and we can have a significant impact on EBITDA out of that business by opening a reasonable number of new locations, again, leveraging what we've built and we maintain here for our 1,000 store chain. So very efficient for us and very high return for us..

Rob Gross

I think if you think and we know that Monro's operating margins have proven to be significantly above what the industry does, layering in some of those opportunities to the Car-X brand to make their brand the most efficient and most profitable franchise operation out there creates huge growth opportunities for others potentially wanting to take advantage of some of the things we might be able to offer franchisees that others can't.

So it's not the normal 800 to 1500 bps of operating margin, it will be potential growth of the chain, the healthier the franchisees are the more profitable they are, the better we are going to perform..

James Albertine

Understood. Well, thanks again everyone and good luck in the next quarter..

Rob Gross

Thanks..

John Van Heel

Thank you, take care..

Operator

We'll go next to Robert Higginbotham from SunTrust..

Robert Higginbotham

Good morning everyone..

John Van Heel

Good morning..

Robert Higginbotham

My first question has to do with the operational enhancements that you spoke of earlier in the call, John.

In the past, you’ve been pretty confident in saying that despite some disappointing top-line trends that you weren’t losing share, I'm wondering if you still feel that that's the case and as you look at these enhancement opportunities, are you behind the curve on some of these elements relative to your competition or would these moves put you ahead?.

John Van Heel

So, with regard to where we stand versus the competition, of course, we see a lot of details from competitors in the acquisitions that we're or the NDAs that we're involved with. So, no, I don't think we're losing ground to the competition. Again, the building block for me is oil change traffic and that's been positive for the last two years.

What we're looking at is the opportunity to really offset some of those dynamics in the marketplace that cause choppier sales and frankly, I think we can do a better job. We recognized that in order to get there, we needed some additional experience and help internally and our team has really come together around that.

With some of those firsts for Monro, they will definitely put us ahead of most of our competitors. So, it's really more than anything a reaction to the fact that we operate in a fragmented market, and we never -- we've had deflation over the last couple of years and we just haven't produced -- that held back the comp some.

I think with that deflation turning around; we can build off the positive oil change traffic that we've had to produce positive comps this year..

Robert Higginbotham

Thanks. And to revisit Car-X a bit, buying a franchise business model seems like a bit of a strategic shift, in the past, you've expressed a pretty clear favoritism towards Company-operated stores.

Is there something unique about this opportunity than others, is there something changed in the landscape of opportunities in the company-operated world, I guess, in that sense, is there something different about the way you see the world and how you approach these acquisitions?.

Rob Gross

No, again, I mean, what was it, three years ago, certainly it's public information, we had a high interest in Midas, which is bigger, was [indiscernible] performing and was a national footprint, so there was more risk involved.

In this one, this is a culmination, as John said of the deal that we did three years ago that gave us right of first refusal that -- it’s paying off now with 146 stores that are in our current markets, within our current distribution center that is a small piece of what this company is.

Albeit it will grow, it still won’t grow to the effect or the pace that Monro as a company-operated store operation is going to do and it is just a compelling value for our shareholders without a lot of risk. .

Robert Higginbotham

Okay, that’s helpful.

And the last sort of housekeeping question is, what has been the store growth of Car-X over the past couple of years?.

John Van Heel

I think, they have maintained sort of a steady state where they are right now. Again, we think that there is opportunity to expand from that. .

Robert Higginbotham

Okay. Great, thank. .

John Van Heel

Thank you..

Operator

We will go next to Michael Montani with Evercore..

Michael Montani

Hey, guys, good afternoon. I wanted to ask about traffic and ticket, if you could just share what that was in the quarter and for last year.

And then when you look at your guidance of up 1 to 3 for next year, what is the underlying assumption for a traffic and ticket to get to that range?.

John Van Heel

It was mostly traffic – traffic was – overall traffic was down in the quarter due to the disruption that we talked about. So that was the biggest piece for the quarter. For next year, like we said, most of the comp is pricing and ticket is basically flat to slightly positive with tires as I said, earlier being flat as a part of it. .

Michael Montani

And I guess you had mentioned earlier 200 bps as headwind from weather, so obviously that’s probably 1 to 1 for traffic.

So normalizing for that, was ticket actually positive in fourth quarter than given your tire pricing?.

John Van Heel

No, it was basically flat. It was really mostly traffic in the fourth quarter. .

Michael Montani

And just to follow up on the opportunity from the tire tariffs, to the extent you’re able to get cost reductions that would obviously be incremental.

But in the fourth quarter in particular, can you just share what was the kind of increase in tire gross profit dollars per unit, was there like a nickel benefit in 4Q just as we think about trying to build that out into next year and how much of a tailwind it could become?.

John Van Heel

No, I think you should focus – again, we made the comment that the fourth quarter was the highest gross profit dollar quarter for us.

And I think again, we’ve given you the profitability metrics in some of what I gave in the script $1 of gross profit is equal to $0.05, 1% volume is equal to $0.025 and you’ve got the operating margins at the mid-point. So I think you’ve got – those are the elements we were looking to give you to allow you to build on that. .

Michael Montani

And just lastly then on Car-X, can you just give us the percentage of EBIT rate and when you said that the stores are performing like Monro, was that meaning like your service stores doing 650,000 of revenue or like the consolidated chain average of revenues?.

John Van Heel

No. Yes, those stores are on the average of what our service stores are, which is between 600,000 and 700,000 a store. .

Michael Montani

And just the EBIT margins, if I missed that I am sorry. .

John Van Heel

Well, we gave you an EBITDA number, so the EBIT margin is high. You can probably back into what our revenue might be or in that range and use that EBIT -- EBITDA to sort of get there. And we also said, we’re going to be slightly accretive this year, so you shouldn’t be building any significant contribution this coming year from Car-X..

Rob Gross

Remember, Cathy talked about this business doing, whatever, approximately $160 million in EBITDA and John said the Car-X will be $2 million. So while it's a great opportunity and a great growth vehicle, let's keep it in perspective to where the company is..

Michael Montani

Thanks a lot..

Cathy D'Amico

Thank you..

Operator

We will go next to Scott Stember with C.L. King..

Scott Stember

Good afternoon, guys..

John Van Heel

Hey, welcome back, I guess..

Scott Stember

Gladly back.

Can you maybe just talk about Car-X within the franchisees, how they have been performing at the store levels sales growth-wise and maybe just talk about the health of the individual franchisees if you had to put it into buckets?.

John Van Heel

Yeah. Again, we are not going to comment on businesses we don’t know on an individual franchisees or independently owned. I think we can say that last year's comp performance was good. And again they don't add the exposure to tires, but they performed very well last year, which is part of the compelling value we saw.

They are good operators, they live in the business and we think the great opportunity for us to help them make more money and grow the chain otherwise we wouldn't have gotten involved. .

Scott Stember

Got it. And maybe for you to just get a little bit more granular with the revenue streams that will be coming in in the different buckets from Car-X. We have royalties.

Can you just talk about the stores that are owned versus leased and potential royalties, I mean rents coming from that and maybe just break that out a little bit more?.

John Van Heel

If you look at what I gave you in the script, I think you will have the elements to come back to that, come back to a revenue number. The royalty there will be basically all of our revenues. And so it's not more -- it's that simple.

We do have some opportunities going forward to sell some parts based on our ability to source that very attractive costs for them, but really the most significant piece of the revenue will be royalty..

Scott Stember

Got it. That's all I have. Thanks so much for taking my questions..

John Van Heel

Thank you, Scott..

Operator

We have time for one more question and that will come from Bret Jordan with BB&T Capital Markets..

Bret Jordan

Hi, just a follow-up on that same line. If we look at the Car-X revenue stream, do you have any expectation of part sales in your current year guide? And I guess to some extent is there a contract issue like there was with Midas where the franchisees need to buy from you if you can distribute to them.

And last piece of that question, what do you expect the general margin of part sales to the franchisees today?.

John Van Heel

So the first was, we don't have a contract requiring them to buy. They are free to buy from whom they choose. We think we have a lot of compelling things to offer them. Secondly, we do not have any dollars baked into next year and I wouldn't suggest that any significant number of dollars be baked in to next year.

So that guidance will -- it doesn’t incorporate that. And third, because we are not working in numbers for the guidance, I mean we are not going to talk about what we would sell to them. And I think you could expect that we might have transfer costs that would be similar to what we have to our own stores -- be attractive..

Bret Jordan

Perfect. Thank you..

John Van Heel

Thanks..

Rob Gross

Great, thanks everybody.

Operator

And with no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the call back over to John Van Heel for any additional or closing remarks..

John Van Heel

Thank you. Thank you all for your time this morning. I’m looking forward to sharing our successes in driving traffic and sales through our new initiatives with you as well as the growth we expect through acquisition opportunities we’re actively working on.

Our business model should produce another year of double-digit EPS growth on top of the 40% increase over the past two years. We appreciate your continued support and the efforts of our employees that work hard to take care of our customers every day. Thanks again, and have a great day..

Operator

This does conclude today’s conference. Thank you for your participation..

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