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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q4
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Executives

Dave Lewis - Senior Director-Legal Fred Lampropoulos - Chairman, CEO and President Bernard Birkett - CFO.

Analysts

Thom Gunderson - Piper Jaffray Jayson Bedford - Raymond James & Associates, Inc. Jim Sidoti - Sidoti & Company Mike Petusky - Barrington Research Marco Rodriguez - Stonegate Capital Partners.

Operator

Good afternoon and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Merit Medical's financial results for Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2015 and Guidance for 2016. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. Please note that this call is being recorded.

I'll now turn call over to Fred Lampropoulos, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Merit Medical. You may begin your conference..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Thank you. And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate you taking the time to join us. Along with our staff, we have with us today Bernard Birkett, our Chief Financial Officer, who will be making part of this presentation.

Before I turn the time over to our attorney to read our safe harbor provision, I would like to remind you that we're doing this a little bit different than we've done in the past. We will be posting slides and if you go to our Website, and our Home Page you can pull up this presentation, which I think will be helpful to you now and in the future.

To access these slides as I mentioned, just go to www.merit.com and it will direct you to the appropriate location. I think at this time we'll go ahead and we'll ask David Lewis, one of our staff attorneys if he would read our safe harbor provision.

David?.

Dave Lewis

Thank you, Fred. During our discussion today, reference may be made to projections, anticipated events, or other information which is not purely historical. Please be aware that statements made in the call, which are not purely historical may be considered forward-looking statements.

We caution you that all forward-looking statements involve risks, unanticipated events, and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in such statements.

Many of these risks are discussed in our Annual Report on Form 10-K and other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission available on our website. Any forward-looking statements made in this call are made only as of today's date, and we do not assume obligation to update such statements.

Although Merit's financial statements are prepared in accordance with accounting principles which are generally accepted in the United States, Merit's management believes that certain non-GAAP financial measures provide investors with useful information regarding the underlying business trends and performance of Merit's ongoing operations and can be useful for period-over-period comparisons of such operations.

The tables included in our release and discussed on this call sets forth supplemental financial data and corresponding reconciliations to GAAP financial statements. Investors should consider these non-GAAP measures in addition to, not as a substitute for, financial reporting measures prepared in accordance with GAAP.

These non-GAAP financial measures exclude some items that affect net income. Finally, these calculations may not be comparable with similarly titled measures of other companies..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

David, thank you very much and I just know how much fun you have reading that. It's right up to your alley and thank you very much. So ladies and gentlemen, as you know and have known in the past, there is always a lot going on at Merit. As we think about last year, we think about the Mexico project, we think about the new products we've introduced.

We think about an acquisition that we started on in early December and then competed. We think about the opportunities for the future, but at the same time, as all of you are aware, there is lot of turmoil in the world. We have currency. We have oil prices. We have problems between nations and the complexities of nations.

All of those facing us and yet despite all that, we were able to accomplish and meet the goals of our year one of our three-year plan.

Now not all those goals were exact numbers and by that I mean we didn't hit every number that we had anticipated, but we did hit the topline and the bottom line and so I am going to ask Bernard Birkett if he wants to go through the highlights of the year on a financial basis and then we'll come back and we'll start taking about next year.

So Bernard here we go..

Bernard Birkett

Thank you, Fred. We like to report Q4 revenues of $138.4 million or $141 million in constant currency and that's an increase of 4.2% as reported and 6.2% on a comparable, constant currency basis. For the year 2015, revenues were $542.1 million. On a constant currency basis we achieved $553.4 million.

That's an increase of 6.4% as reported and 8.6% on a comparable, constant currency basis, therefore hitting our first year of our three-year plan, which we had guided in the range of $535 million to $545 million. Our Q4 non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.24.

For the year 2015 non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.87, therefore, hitting our three-year plan and a range of $0.85 to $0.89. Q4 non-GAAP gross profit was 45.6%, compared to 47.4% in Q4 2014. For the year 2015, gross profit was 45.6% of sales, compared to 46.4% for the year 2014.

Q4 SG&A on a non-GAAP basis was $36.9 million or 26.7% of sales, compared to $35.2 million for the same period or 26.5%. For the year 2015, SG&A on a non-GAAP basis was $146.6 million or 27% of sales, compared to $143.1 million or 28.1% for the year 2014.

Q4 R&D was $11.4 million or 8.3% of sales compared to $9.5 million or 7.2% for the same period in '14. Excluding regulatory cost and clinical trials R&D was $8.2 million or 5.9% of sales compared to $6.8 million or 5.1% in Q4 2014.

For the year, our R&D expense was $40.8 million on a non-GAAP basis or 7.5% compared to $36.6 million or 7.2% in the year 2014. Excluding regulatory cost and clinical trials, R&D was $29.5 million or 5.4%, compared to $27.3 million or 5.4% of '14 remaining flat as a percentage of sales year on year.

Q4 GAAP earnings per share $0.14 and for the year 2015 GAAP earnings was $0.53. This was outside of our planned range for the first year of our three year plan, which was $0.63 to $0.67 and the primary reasons for this were severance cost and acquisition costs that we incurred in Q3 and Q4 of '15..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Bernard, thank you. That’s a lot of information and again a remainder that much of this is not only in the press release, but it is available on the slide deck. Let’s talk a little bit about what that drove these numbers.

As you all know not only have there been business issues that we've had to deal with, issues like China, the Euro, gas prices and the issues those have created in terms of currencies in Russia, the Arabian Peninsula at places like Brazil.

But despite all of these issues the company I think performed very, very well in fact what we've done is we’ve adjusted to this. I’ll talk about some of those adjustments in a moment.

As well we're all aware that there been some major management changes here that of course is not something that’s enjoyable, but all of the changes and the things what we've done in our estimation and the estimation of the Board were things that needed to be accomplished and they have been. So I’m happy to report you today that the company is stable.

I think Bernard has stepped in and done a terrific job and I think you'll start to see some of his finger prints on both our presentations and how we're doing things and certainly in the data going forward. So, along with those kinds of issues, let’s talk about all the positive things.

As we look forward to next year, we first of all have the Mexico facility as you well aware up and running.

We have just in the last two or three weeks moved a several new production lines to Mexico and we expect to move another one in less than a month At that point all the things will be in place to cover all the overheads as those lines come and get up and running.

So as we look at that last move I think which is scheduled for March 4 will then see at that particular point that we should have sufficient coverage for our overheads in that facility. Let’s talk about some things that have gone in Australia. We’ve spent some money last year.

We had really no benefit other than we've set up and now have a direct sales effort in Australia. Let me tell you why that’s important. In some cases we’re getting 50% to 75% more for our product there. Now it cost us more to get there. I’ll grant you that, but we’re going to have the benefit to be closer to our customers.

We think that in the future Australia is going to have very, very dramatic double-digit types of growth as that direct sales force drills down I think we have four people there now our warehouse, customer service and we're very excited about Australia. As of January 1 that direct sales force and those facilities are affected.

We've also recently made the decision because of the breadth of our product line and again with the desire to want to be able to be closer to the customer in the point of sales to go direct in Canada.

So on April 1, of this year we will have our entire sales force, which will consist about four or five people, our warehouse, customer service, our management is already in place and we will be going direct in Canada. We’ll get the benefits again of the closeness of the point of sale as well as the difference between wholesale and retail.

Now last year we also were able to introduce a number of new products.

If we take a look at our business and take a look at Endotek, that business not only is the fastest grower in our portfolio, but it is our expectation that as we move forward with our new Elation Balloons, the mini stent that we’ve introduced and some new sizes there as well as our pulmonary balloons and our wire guided balloons that we’re going to continue to see dramatic growth in the endoscopy business.

Now some of the other things that we did during the year is we spend a lot of time looking at things that we thought would fit very nicely in the business. There are some expenses in the fourth quarter.

So as you go through that, you will see that there are some acquisition expenses and there were other expenses associated with acquisition opportunities that we walked away from. Nevertheless those expenses were there and they’re reported on a non-GAAP basis.

However we did conclude a transaction that we’re very, very excited about and in fact it’s a company that we tried to buy three years ago and it was sold to CryoLife.

While CryoLife has moved in a different direction with a new CEO and a recent acquisition and so the product line that we wanted three years ago became available and in a very short period of time in about 45 days because of our prior knowledge of the product and our prior due diligence, we were able to close a deal.

Why is this significant? Well, it allows us to have better interface with vascular surgeons who also will work on this product with nephrologists and interventional radiologist. It’s a business that in my view and not meant to be a criticism of others, but did not have the breadth of coverage and investment.

So about 90% of the revenues were in the U.S., 10% are in Europe and we think we can do dramatically better because of our footprint and we also have other associated products like our peritoneal dialysis catheters, our chronic catheters and be reminded as we talked about when we talked about this in the announcement a few weeks ago of the pull through.

So vascular surgeons used many of our products already, now we have a product that give us more breadth and the opportunity. I’m happy to report to you making an announcement about an acquisition is one thing, but actually getting the job done is quite another. We had a seamless transaction. All of our customers have received all of their products.

Everything is online. All the deliveries have been made and it was seamless and I want to thank guys that are stuffed, but its significant opportunity. In our model for next year, we have discussed the fact that we think the growth is about 11% and this is 2016’s forecast. 11% increase in that product line.

We believe that it has a lot higher opportunity for growth beyond that, but we're starting training in fact next week of our sales force and we’ve already had all the contacts and done all the things that we need to do with our existing customers. But it’s going to be a big opportunity going forward.

Now one of the things that we want you to understand is the number of new products that were just launched in the latter half of last year that are just getting traction and they we're going to going to talk about the newer products because we're going to talk about some very exciting opportunities with the business and in few minutes I will turn sometime over to Bernard to go over the numbers, the ranges, margins, and so on, so forth.

But before we do that let me just set the stage here. Let’s talk about the products that we launched last year that will be part of the momentum and the opportunity going forward. Last year we launched ONE Snare microsnare in which it complements our EN Snare. One of the big surprises last year was our AERO Mini Tracheobronchial Stent.

I think we’re going to do about a $1 million. We ended up doing substantially more than that and we have great hope for this product particularly with the other products in the Endotek division. We also added what they call the BAL Convenience Kit, which calls on that same customer. Of course you are all aware of the Prelude SNAP.

It was our improvement of that product over the classic sheath and we continue to get rate reviews on that product both on our direct sales force and from some of our OEM customers. Another one of course that is so much fun to have these products come out and have them well received by our customers we're Elation esophageal balloons.

We work long and hard and when you combine that along with our big 60 inflation device, you get the kind of growth that we talked about. We're talking about 25% to 30% growth rates and we think we can do that for the next several years in that Endotek division.

We also were able to make a deal with Sumitomo Bakelite in Japan for a Steerable Microcatheter. Now as I am speaking to you today, we received an order today and it's just been launched for 10 units. They're selling from almost $1100 a piece.

Now this is a tool that in very, very difficult cases, it's absolutely necessary to have to be able to get to these points. It's hard sometimes to get to these small vessels.

That product is launched in Europe and as I mentioned to great acclaim, what's even more fun is when you get a physician that send you a personal note and that physician says, I couldn’t do it with this. I use this and I have -- there are two issues for me.

One, it's great because I was able to get the case done and then one bad issue is that I don't have any more stock and I need to order right away and you get a comment like that, it's very encouraging. Now we have not had that product approved yet in the U.S. It is in the process of registration.

We think it's going to be about midyear maybe early third quarter, but it's going to have a substantial impact on our business and our opportunities and by that time we'll have had almost six to eight months of selling in Europe and so we're very excited with great margins about 65%. I mentioned about Australia. I mentioned about Mexico.

I mentioned Canada. Let me go to the new product that we talked about the HeRO, again a product that I believe has been underserved with huge opportunities, particularly international, but in the United States, it is kind of our last resort product.

It has good margins, but one of the things I want to remind you and Bernard will talk a little bit to this, is there are a couple of things that affect this. One, is as you know we have the inventory mark-up that affects margins.

Two, we have a deal that that product will be made by CryoLife in their facilities for no more than six months and we're paying cost but plus 25. That will affect margins.

That being said, we will set up our first line queue in South Jordan where we will produce those catheters in April and so it will be a drag initially, both for the reasons I mentioned, but going forward, we believe it's going to have substantial opportunities.

The Corvocet biopsy device, we were about less than 60 days away from the release of that product. We believe and I believe personally that this is one of the great products that Merit's produced and we believe that we're going to become a primary market shareholder in a relatively short period of time. It's a great product.

Every physician that's held it, has trialed it, has had high regard for it. If we take a look at some of the micro function and knee products, we have both guide wires and a new pedal access kit that's available in several configurations that's a new product that goes along with our micro puncture business. We have a new Centesis Catheter.

This is a catheter we've been asked for a long time. It comes both as a standalone and in a couple of different trays and configurations. We have a new inflation device, a new 4D atmosphere inflation device.

This is for some of the procedures that when we go in and we have these grafts, we have these fistulas that require high pressure and this is a product that fits that market need. A new product and in fact we just trialed this product last night. It has a CE mark and it has FDA approval. It's a new hydrophilic Prelude SNAP.

The doctor that used it last night commented that it was so smooth and it was high belief that he could not have accomplished the procedure of at least the access with any other product other than this one. This is a product that will have almost a 100% premium over the existing product that we sell, which is also a premium product.

So we're excited about that opportunity. And then of course three new balloon products coming in at the Endotek division, the Wireguided Esophageal Balloons and then the Pulmonary Balloons, both Wireguided and fixed wire coming over the next few months, just a couple of months.

In fact the Wireguided we're outdoing files and we expect to release that in two weeks. So there are lot of drivers here.

Wholesale and retail, market expansion, I haven't even touched on the OEM opportunities in some of our other divisions, but we're loaded with all of these products, all relatively new in the last six months or so and then new ones coming in the first part of this year.

So I think as we look at the opportunity, we look at the marketplace out there, I think Merit is well positioned to take advantage of the marketplace with these great products. That being said, now that I told you all that good stuff, I will have Bernard tell you some even better stuff. Bernard, you bet..

Bernard Birkett

Thank you, Fred and for 2016 we're guiding revenues in the range of $587 million to $597 million.

Gross margin on a GAAP basis at 44.5% to 45.5%, gross margin on a non-GAAP basis between 46.5% and 47.5%, earnings per share on a GAAP basis $0.74 to $0.80 and on a non-GAAP basis $0.97 to $1.03 and just to know that our 2016 guidance includes revenues and earnings for the HeRO acquisition that we completed earlier this year..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Okay. Well I sense you what we're saying as we believe that in terms of topline and bottom line, we accomplished our first year. What we're saying is that we're reaffirming our initial forecast on our three-year plan for our second year of the three year plan.

A lot of work to be done, a lot of acceleration of the business, but these products are here to do what the business has the capacity to do it because of the capital investments we've made in the past. So there is it ladies and gentlemen, it's what we've done, where we are and where we're going.

We I think are excited about the opportunities and look forward to being with reports here in the future. With that being said, we'll now turn the time over to the operator and Bernard and I will be available for your questions now.

And as a reminder when the call is over, if there is more clarification or other thing that you didn't ask or didn't get us on the line, Bernard and I will be here for about an hour until we're able to meet with you and answer your questions. So with that said, operator, I will turn it over to you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Thom Gunderson of Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open..

Thom Gunderson

Hi. Good afternoon, everybody..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Hey Thom, how are you?.

Thom Gunderson

Am good, thanks. So I've got two basic areas, ones on revenues, ones on earnings or gross margin actually and on the revenue side Fred, it's still new for us this HeRO graft and has an impact to your numbers and to your guidance for 2016.

So as we try to model this, if they did $7.5 million in sales last year, without having that extra euro bump that you'll get by having broader distribution and I think you said 11% growth, but it's not for a full year.

How should we proportion that? When do we start to see a quarter-over-quarter kind of growth that would reflect that 11%?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Thom, just a reminder and I am glad that you brought this subject upfront. Just a reminder to everybody that as you model our numbers, everybody is aware from what we do in the past that our first quarter because of the way we shut down at the end of the year and we ramp up and we don't take any credit for production, it does to the sterilizer.

We always have that little lag and we then catch up in the second quarter and again a reminder, on this particular transaction that we're going to have about $85,000 a month in inventory mark-up and that's going to take four to six months to work that off and then you have that cost but plus 25 and that is so that we can get a smooth transaction.

I got a report from our Vice President of Engineering, we have teams down there. We have people that will be there for a month. So we're there and the kind of the comment we got earlier today was that we think it wasn’t probably move up to date maybe by 30 days or so. But essentially all of that will be produced here.

As you pointed out, there is about 11 months worth of revenue because of when we closed and so we're going to only have the benefit of 11 months of that, but despite that we think that we'll still grow off that base by about 11% on an annualized basis above what they did minus that first month.

I am confusing myself Thom, not you, but -- so we're going to get 11, 12 of the $7.5 million and then we're going to take that and that's going to go 11%.

Now we have actually here today 60 to 70 of our sales people that are in our group and everybody being trained by the physicians and all this and when they live here, they will be trained and they will be capable of monitoring these cases and sitting in and explaining.

Now that being said, where we think the big opportunity is, is recruiting and bringing on physicians that a number of key teaching centers. Two of the largest implanters in the country are in the top five facilities in the United States and because I don't have waiver signed by them, I won't mention their names.

Hopefully in the future we can go ahead and disclose that, but one thing we will be doing is, we've been doing a little bit definite highlight. They would have been at summit, they would bring people to their facility.

We're going to -- I think in talking with physicians that put these things in and would teach those, we're actually going to go and take about 10 physicians at a time, take them to these teaching centers and they will be involved actually scrubbed in with these physicians with maybe the other eight or so that will be in the theater part of it and we think we're going to get much more uptake, we're going to get better communication with the physician and have that dialogue.

So the 11% that we're looking at here is 11% on top of 11, 12, we think that's point to accelerate for several reasons. Not only do we think that the training is an important issue, but we think there is that international footprint, but we're not going to get a lot of math until next year because we're going to do this part first.

But the other part is that CryoLife didn't have is -- they didn't have the access part. So they didn't have the micro puncture. They didn't have the kit. They didn't have the wires. They didn't have a lot of the products that are used to put in there and we have all of that.

And that's going to be picked up by our existing customers and our new customers. Ultimately, this is almost a $4,000 device and so we're excited what it means for the sales force because all of these other products go along with it. Now I hope that answers your question.

We should see acceleration quarter-to-quarter starting I am going to say in the somewhat in the second and then accelerate during the end of the year. So you'll see maybe 3% or 4% in the second quarter.

Then you'll probably see 8% or 10% and then as we get into the fourth quarter, you'll probably see 15% type of growth, which will average out to this 11% for the year. So that's kind of how we see it, but I can tell you think.

Having started that meeting up to date with all those sales people, many of them were out with the clinical force and that's another thing that we have.

Remember we've gotten about 15 or so clinical specialists out on the field who are trained and of course already essentially have been training down and so we have that and that's a much bigger effort then, then CryoLife and CryoLife was again a great company, but they're tissue company. Merit is a device company and then another thing.

We just head back from the ASDIN this weekend down in Phoenix. We had no less -- there were 30 people at our booth for every minute that we were there. We had the busiest booth at ASDIN. If you had any analysts that were there that might be on the phone, they will confirm that.

And I asked them, I asked our sales and market people what was it? A lot of it was interesting was curiosity. There was a lot of it maybe nephrologists. So these are the guys that are referring and they wanted to know how they could work better with Merit to refer their patients out and how they knew that they could get these patients treated.

As an example, this is a long answer, but if you go to New York, you go look at New York State, we have one implanter in Albany. This about the opportunity that we have in vascular surgery and all the people that live in just in New York.

There is so much opportunity here and then on top of that, we have all of these other products, both on the cardiac side, the endoscopy side and on the peripheral intervention side. So I hope I answered your question. I threw a lot of stuff out there Thom, but there is a lot of opportunity here..

Thom Gunderson

You did throw a lot of stuff out there, but you also answered the question. So thanks. I got exactly what I wanted and little bit more/. So thank you. The other question is on gross margin. It was just a tad hardly worth mentioning, but you're trying to grow gross margin. I know it was a tad lower than what we had estimated.

In the Q3 10-Q, you attributed lower gross margin than you wanted to Mexico, which you talked about and embolization product production being lower and messing up overhead a little bit and then international discounting to account for the strong dollar with your distributors, is that about the same in Q4? Is it getting better and how do you see those parameters in 2016?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Well there were number of issues as you pointed out, Nippon Kayaku, which is a distributor for our embolic materials, there was about $1.5 million less revenue in the fourth quarter because what they do is they make large orders, but that being said, I would also say that we were a little bit disappointed in the performance there.

We had the issue of a devaluation of yuan. That affected us both on the revenue side and gross margin side. We had the Russian issue and that's just simply because we're doing -- we have to do heavy discounting.

We don't change the prices, but we rebate to our distributors and again I think it's the same issues and then on top of that, you have the Mexico issue, which were still in that start-up phase.

So I think comparatively speaking, and Bernard maybe you can weigh in here, I think those are the comparable basis, I think we're showing about 160 basis points of gross margin improvement going forward and that takes into account mix, it takes into account these things essentially our comparative basis being stable quarter-over-quarter.

It takes into account Mexico coming online and even though you do have some startup expenses, with some of the new products, we're not going to get as much gross margin for the first nine months on any new products just because you're ramping up. But that will start accelerating.

We do have the benefit Thom of having a number of these products on the -- that we launched last year and I got to talk about a couple of these because they're so exciting.

If you take the Microcatheter the SwiftNINJA, oh my goodness, here we're selling this thing for $1200 a pop, gross margins is up 65%, 70% and then we'll be launching that in the U.S. It's one of those products Thom, I've not seen too many of these.

You put it in the hands of physician, in fact I had a cardiologist tell me this weekend that we need this in cardiology and we haven't even thought about that because of its peripheral application. And then we also talked on the call here today in our introduction about the Wireguided Elation Balloons.

Now let me tell you what is significant about that is that you have the fixed wire, but many hospitals will be 60-40 or 50-50 and we haven't had that and yet we've been selling them as fast as we can make them. We've ordered four new production lines that will be up by midyear to meet the demand.

Now that we have the other one that is approved and signed up, we signed it up today and I just noticed in my notes, as we were getting ready from when I did the presentation till right now, that we already sold like 20 of those things today, we just launched it, a few hours ago and we get a $50 premium.

So on the gross margin side, we'll have comparative periods, we'll have Mexico that will be at that point but they will start to add and remember when we're all said and done by the time we get through 2017, we'll have about 100 to 150 basis points of gross margin improvement just coming from Mexico and so that's going to give us a huge advantage.

And then these new products are all high margins and then as we get into the HeRO, we got to go through this mark-up and we've got to go through this transition cost, but once we get through that in the first four months or so, and use up that inventory then again that's going to affect our gross margins on the other side.

So do you want to add anything to that Bernard? This is a longer answer, but I am long winded today..

Bernard Birkett

That's correct Fred. Primarily we've identified two areas specifically for margin improvement where we targeted sales mix and geographic expansion.

So we've set targets for our sales force on that and also from an operational efficiency point of view and that includes the Mexico facility that we know from each of our facilities what they need to contribute for gross margin improvement. So we're very focused on us is what drives a lot of our numbers. We've set really clear goals for our people.

So we've got a good plan in place and we believe it's achievable..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

One more thought here Thom, I just got through this one last thing in as in terms of staff compensation and bonuses and those sorts of things, it's about 40% on the revenue side and about 40% on the bottom line side with a couple of other little tickers in the middle.

Gross margins are of course important, but we had paid by hitting these numbers and so it certainly has our attention in terms of how to accomplish these things..

Thom Gunderson

Got it. Thanks Fred. Thanks Bernard. I am done..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Thanks Thom..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jayson Bedford of Raymond James. Your line is now open..

Jayson Bedford

Hi. Good afternoon..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

We can, just fine Jayson.

How are you?.

Jayson Bedford

Well thanks. So I guess maybe just a few financial questions. To start, I would love to get Bernard's view of the business here. he has been in the CFO role here for what three four months.

Maybe you can speak to some of the newer initiatives and processes that you're putting in place in the finance side and you kind of alluded to it in answering the last question.

But outside of the gross margin line, do you see opportunities for the business to become more efficient on the operating line?.

Bernard Birkett

Yes, we have targeted certain levels of operation like spend to drive the profitability that we're looking for. We've done it on three different areas. On the revenue perspective, we've really got focused on growing the revenue in a number of different markets.

We've identified new markets and we've also identified new products and products that will be introduced. And then on the margin side, again we're focused on delivering higher margins. So focusing on those higher margin products while maintaining our existing legacy business.

So a lot of the sales force, they're actually being compensated now on one revenue growth and margin and ASP growth. So we've got sales force aligned with where we want the business to go.

From the operational side, we've also been very specific with our operational group to identify the cost savings that we expect to deliver on the margin and forecast that we have. So it's like a two pronged approach and again these guys are incentivized on delivering on the operational cost saving initiatives that we have in place..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

And can I add one more thing Jayson to that if I could and that is we had our Board of Directors meeting this weekend. We had our audit committee and we also had a presentation by our independent auditors and whenever you go through some of the changes that we went through, they did more I don't want to call it inspection, but testing.

They did more of this. They did more of that and here as the glowing report, the glowing report was there were no adjustments.

There were no deficiencies at all and in fact they were very, very complimentary in terms of and I think speaks volumes to not only the business as it was, but the effectiveness that the accounting staff had to get through these things and get them done efficiently effectively, particularly now that we're reporting as a larger company and then the audit time was reduced by three weeks.

So I want to let you know that all the concerns that a lot of people had, which I understand as a fair thing when you have these kinds of issues that the compliment was as we get it better than we've ever done it before and that they feel very comfortable and they delivered that report to the audit committee.

So that was that's satisfying to me and I am sure to all of you guys and our shareholders. We will take your next question..

Jayson Bedford

So it doesn’t just stop at the margin line where there is a lot of focus is well on SG&A and R&D expense and to make sure that they are in line with what we've forecasted and budgeted, so there is a lot more accountability being pushed back to the various functional heads to manage their budgets and to be essentially within that budget throughout the year and maybe working very closely with these guys to make sure that happens and to drive the profitability out of the business that we know it can deliver..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Let me tell you with more detail how we're going to do that. In the past Jayson you know as well as anybody, we have two really great guys. We had Greg and camp who did a great job for many years, but in terms of delegation and some of those issues, they grew up with the business. That's the way they've always done it.

I think what Bernard has done is when he talks about responsibility part of what we've done is that we've hired these analysts that work for Bernard and work with the Department Head. So it's not just making a statement. There are people who are signed in the accounting department.

These are new heads we've added in the last year and what they have specific departments that they have responsible work to work with those department heads and to take a look to make sure there are plans all kind of add up. So it's not just a statement being made from 30 feet.

We got big ground troops on the ground working with the departments and making sure that they are in alignment and I think that's a huge improvement so that we get not just what we say, but then we get the performance because it's been reviewed and they're responsible for, but it doesn’t go three or six months.

They're looking at every months and those analysts are working with them to make sure that they're on plan and wherever there is a deficiency, where they can go through and make sure they have answers to make sure that they stay on plan.

That's different than we've done in the past where we can get down actually help the departments and that's a big change..

Jayson Bedford

Okay. Thanks for that.

I guess just another one for Bernard on the financial side, R&D was higher than we had modeled, higher frankly than it had been in the past, than your 8.5% of sales, I know you gave us some additional color, but just can you comment on what it seemed elevated in the fourth quarter and then what does this ratio R&D as a percent of sales look like in 2016..

Bernard Birkett

In 2016 we forecast just R&D at the same level as a percentage of sales as what we would have achieved in 2015. So if you look at R&D itself, and just look at it for '15 over '14, we were 5.4% of sales and each year. So year-over-year and that's what we will be targeting for 2016. So at least maintain that ratio.

The other cost that have been included in there are regulatory cost and clinical trials. So obviously as you're launching a lot of new products which we have at the end of 2015 and through the early part of 2016, there is a lot of regulatory cost that goes along with that for the filings and the registration.

And also we've got to be conscious of that with the regulatory department that we're actually expanding into new markets. We're opening up in Australia, Canada and areas like that. We will have cost there, but again what we wanted -- what we've done is we've broken it down into each of the specific areas.

So we really understand what is driving that number and so we're confident with the way we forecasted is in broad terms we're not seeing an increase as a percentage of sales on our SG&A and R&D expenses..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Jayson, just a little bit on that, as you know that some of these studies as you get larger enrollments both of the PAE and in the high quality study and others, the more than you go in that direction, you have more expense.

Now we hope and I am going to just throw a little teaser out here, but there are some very, very exciting challenge or potentials on that area that would be very, very helpful to the company in terms of finishing up some of those studies and I am not talking about discontinuing.

I am talking about I've got to be careful here and let me just say there are going to be opportunities, which would allow us to sell sooner and be able to have less expense and then hopefully we can talk to you about that in the next 60 days should all those things develop.

And then another reminder that we have as part of our R&D we have these other long-term projects like the CVO and those as time goes along, those get more expensive, but so that we have the discipline, we're cutting back in other areas, we're utilizing the expense that we have.

So this would be as you know, as we've discussed in the past, these are very exciting game changers, but this is going to end up being a seven-year project when it's all said and done. So just to give you a little color on that..

Jayson Bedford

Right. Okay. And maybe just lastly, what was U.S.

growth in the quarter? Similarly what was international growth?.

Bernard Birkett

5.9 in the U.S. and let me just check the international one..

Jayson Bedford

Can you just give me U.S. what was your U.S.

revenue?.

Bernard Birkett

The U.S. 7.9% on an international basis that was the growth..

Jayson Bedford

Okay, that’s fine..

Bernard Birkett

Domestic was 5.4%..

Jayson Bedford

Okay, thank you. I will jump back in queue..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Okay. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jim Sidoti of Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open..

Jim Sidoti

Good afternoon Fred, can you hear me?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

We can Jim. Thank you..

Jim Sidoti

Good. Just a quick question on the quarter that ended.

Malvern, I expected that number to be little higher because of the new sheet that you had approved did that one not start the Prelude SNAP? Has that not started to ship yet?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

No, no I don’t think -- I don’t know we're coming after that Malvern now that we have launched the Prelude SNAP, we had pretty dramatic growth on the SNAP around the taking repair, replacing the classic. We had a major OEM company that has come forward and we’re delivering products there, but I think it shows that was down 0.8%.

So I just think it’s more of those things where I think last year something like that we were shipping to Boston Scientific and some of those things. So it's more of a timing issue then it is a business issue..

Jim Sidoti

Okay.

So would you expect that business to rebound early in 2015?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Listen if you take a look on Malvern what's interesting it's probably the most efficient facility that we have. We grew our Worley business last year, watch to look at the Worley business but these are the coronary sinus guides last year grew I’m going to say 25% to 30%, but we'll get the exact number here.

And then we have another new product coming up this year. This is the non-valve Prelude SNAP and then -- and the one that I think that we grew -- let me come back here, on the Worley business we grew at 80% year-over-year. We added about a $1.5 million for about 17 to 32. So that came out of there.

So what happened is that we loss some business on the classic side on the OEM side. We made it up with direct sales on the Worley side and the snap. We have other additional products and one of the things that we are doing Jim on the snap we have FDA approval and CE mark on the PreludeEASE Hydrophilic.

And that’s a product we're not going to make available to OEM customers and that’s going to be all of sales I talking about the SNAP, I said EASE, the SNAP, and so I think maybe in the quarter was just really a timing issue more than anything else..

Jim Sidoti

All right and then the -- I just wanted -- you talked about a lot of different devices before. The product that you're moving production early this year that you think will hurt earnings a little bit that was the hemodialysis graft..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

That’s the HeRO, yes, that's the one we just purchased.

That’s the HeRO, that’s the stent graft and what we're doing there is of course we have the first quarter in which you have the mark up of inventory which is a requirement and then we’re paying them as a vendor at their cost plus 25% and then we'll be producing it there for three to four months and then in the mean time all of it is being transferred.

So we have other production lines and those things are being up and running and all the people are being trained. I think we had -- how many people do we have down there this week or next.

We have seven people that are there engineering, quality, operators and that sort of thing and they will be doing after the next three or four weeks in that facility while they're building products.

So there will be additional expenses that you're required to make and will affect gross margins, but it’s a relatively short term situation and something that of course is required on all acquisitions when you have inventory as you know and that amount is about $85,000 a month and to we use up that inventory.

Then we'll have the inventory they make and several effect gross margins not a lot, but it's there and then assumes that side of the way then you'll see those gross margins accelerate in the second half. And interdentally we can also from our point of view produce the product substantially less expensive. Let me tell you why.

They have their facilities on the campus in the Innovation Center at Georgia Tech. So they have their expense. This fits right in downstairs some of the things that we move to Mexico we can bring this year in an open space that has to absorb overhead here. Secondly, less send one palette a week or two palettes a week to the sterilizer.

We spend I think some 70 every two days. So we're going to get the benefit of the usage there for those costs. Packaging that goes down and then even some of the parts that are in the accessory kit, parts that Merit makes and we'll be replacing those like the sheaths, the guide wires, the needles, the haemostatic valves.

All of those things are things that Merit already makes. They were buying those out of house. So, once we get through this initial requirement, manufacturing and accounting rules, we have substantial opportunity for gross margin improvement, but more importantly we think that the growth in the opportunities there are extraordinary.

We think this is a big deal and incidentally remember this is the same group of people that go along these vascular surgeons or the other products that I mentioned and also the same group that can be very much involved in the CVO stent going forward.

So this is a long term strategy in which product fits in perfectly as well as the full issue that we discussed..

Jim Sidoti

All right and then my last question, if you look at the mid-point of your guidance, it looks like your guidance was about 15% bottom line growth for 2016 on a pro forma basis, this has been -- Bernard, this is the first year you've given guidance, I just want to get a feel for how comfortable you are with that projection and if you think that's something that you can sustain for the next several years?.

Bernard Birkett

We're comfortable with this. Obviously there is a lot of volatility in the markets and we've taken that into account, but we're still comfortable with the numbers. A lot of it is going to be down to driving that gross margin number and which we've already spoken about and the discipline in controlling our cost base and which we're committed to.

And we've shown this year well in 2015 that we have the ability to grow profits at kind of range and so we believe it's there in the business and looking at '17 again I would think it's achievable..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Jim let me add that on the sales forecast because one of the questions that we thought we would hear and I think we have to some extent is okay wait a second, you're going from this 49 adjusted for constant currency, is about 6% and now you guys are talking about 8% plus another 150 basis points that's pretty aggressive growth, but what we did is these aren’t my numbers.

These are numbers that we've gone to our staff and we sat down with OEM, sensors the direct sales force both European, Asian and U.S. and Central South America, these are their numbers and in fact to be very fair, their numbers were actually a little higher and we can’t put those back which I think is always wise to do.

But these are pretty impressive numbers and again there they are, you guys can decide what you think of them, but this is what our staff and what our sales organizations have committed to..

Bernard Birkett

And if you look at we have proven in the past that we can grow that legacy business and with the products that are coming out of R&D and with the recent acquisition that we have, I think that gives us a lot of comfort with these numbers and belief that we will deliver on them..

Jim Sidoti

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Mike Petusky of Barrington Research. Your line is now open..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Hey Mike, how are you?.

Mike Petusky

Good afternoon. Great, great. So I just want to drill down again a little bit on the guidance.

So what's the tax rate that's assumed for '16 in this guidance?.

Bernard Birkett

In the guidance we're looking at a range of between 27% and 29% and that's really affected by the mix of earnings and that's what has driven our tax rate in 2015, that mix can vary slightly year-from-year and that obviously has a big impact on the rates. But we're comfortable at 27% to 29%..

Mike Petusky

And then so what I’m hearing you say is really no leverage on R&D and not that no leverage on SG&A as well or do you get a little leverage there?.

Bernard Birkett

We will get a little leverage there..

Mike Petusky

Okay. So maybe yes….

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Mike what I was going to say is that as I talked about later, we've got these expenses and they're start-up expenses with these new products that are coming online. Even this transfer is I don’t know if we're accounting that for R&D or not.

But you've got some clinical support and these kinds of things that you need to have to be successful to drive that topline, but as Bernard pointed out the biggest drivers here are really the gross margin side, the facilities, Mexico, product mix and so on and so forth. That's where you get the biggest bank for your buck..

Mike Petusky

Okay.

And so on the gross margin, how much of that gross margin improvement is coming from the device tax being suspended is that like 70, 80 basis points something like that?.

Bernard Birkett

Yes. That's correct..

Mike Petusky

Okay.

And then -- so as we look at some of these issues in the first half of the year the HeRO and Mexico getting to a place where it can cover its overhead, is it fair to say that this year in terms of adjusted EPS it's pretty backend loaded maybe it's like 40% in the first half, 60% in the second half or is it even swung more towards the second half than that?.

Bernard Birkett

It will be obviously weighted towards the backend of the year as Fred already alluded to, we've got start-up cost in January and that affects our Q1 number.

So we would expect margin to improve throughout the year and that's coming from not just Mexico but as we gain operational efficiencies as we leverage the new markets that we're entering that will obviously improve throughout the year. So you should see consistent improvement..

Mike Petusky

I’m just trying to get a sense of magnitude; for instance do you expect Q1 to be a negative comp in terms of adjusted EPS versus the year prior quarter?.

Bernard Birkett

I wouldn’t expect it to be a negative..

Mike Petusky

Okay.

All right, what about CapEx for the year? Do you have any general guidance around CapEx for the year?.

Bernard Birkett

In a range of $35 million to $40 million..

Mike Petusky

All right….

Bernard Birkett

Just on the CapEx, CapEx spend has been reducing from Q2, you can see it reduce through Q3 and Q4 of 2015. So it should level off in 2016. We don’t have a lot of the large building expense that we would had in the first half of '15..

Mike Petusky

Okay.

And then in terms of your assumptions around currency is it just an assumption that it stays consistent with current levels or what are you assuming around currently?.

Bernard Birkett

Well, we’ve actually flexed it. So we’ve looked at a number of different alternatives and on a number of currencies and the ones that affected us the most are the Euro and the Yuan. So we are fairly active and looking at that. We brought on a Director of Treasury who just joined us in the last couple of weeks.

So there is a lot of focus on that and managing that situation, but again as you know the markets are very volatile but we have tried to built into our forecast as much as we can..

Mike Petusky

Let me ask a question Bernard what is the standard you are using the rate in your modeling of the Euro?.

Bernard Birkett

110..

Mike Petusky

110..

Bernard Birkett

Yeah and what we’ve done there is we’ve got forecast from a number of different banks. We’ve looked at the consensus numbers. You got some that were coming in lower than that but some are coming in much higher we’ve taken the middle group..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

And Mike let me come back to your question on the SG&A, as I mentioned earlier in the call, we've hired probably four or five analysts that are working and working with the Department so that we can make sure there is more accountability and more visibility.

We have hired this treasure who was formerly Stryker and Zimmer, excuse me, Zimmer and yeah he is laughing at me now okay.

We can make it Stryker but anyway, I think Met with the Board as I mentioned earlier in the call this weekend and we've started going through the functions and the help but I think the big changes here are that we have I think this is the Bernard's model. He has been able to go out and build this. We'll have better accounting.

We'll have better visibility more help for the staff. More ability, this is a complex business. If you take a look at the currencies in Australia, one of the interesting parts if you take a look at these margins and I talked about some of our projects getting as much as 50% or 75% more.

This is when you’ve seen the Australian dollar decreasing value by 30% and we’re still getting those. If we get back to some level in the future, so I think we have a lot of most of the downside coverage has been already, is already built into that and there is opportunities in the future as we see oil prices improve and other commodity issues.

Over time I am not looking for any big bounce, but I think that the numbers we're giving you are numbers on the currency side that are kind of where I think where they're pretty well going to be leveled out. So I could be wrong on that. We've modeled it 1/10 and then everything has to be converted.

But now we've got a treasurer here to help and to take on his responsibility that knows how to hedge. By the way, I want to make sure everybody has chance. This is not speculation. We're not speculating on markets is what we're doing is we're hedging essentially the revenues that we have in the receivables and that sort of thing.

Do you want to comment on that?.

Bernard Birkett

It's just a hedging strategy. So to be risk management more than actively setting on currency..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

We're not in the currency business. The point is the question was on the leverage on SG&A and I think as the business is more complicated what we're trying to do is to make sure that we do a better job of understanding and managing the risk of the business. And we've hired people in this department to do so.

And we haven't hired anybody by the way in accounting. These guys try to do it all. They did a good job, but we think there is more that can be done, particularly down at the division and down at the department level..

Mike Petusky

Okay. And just last quick one, free cash flow generation I am assuming mostly used for debt pay down over the next 12 months, is that the likely..

Bernard Birkett

Yes, that's correct..

Mike Petusky

Thanks, really appreciate..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Thanks Mike. I think we generated, no one asked about this, you just asked about it before and now that we're nobody asked any question, but I think we generated almost $70 million in operating cash flow last year and that's pretty significant improvement. So again lot of the questions and we appreciate them.

Operator, we'll come back to you and see if there is anybody out with any further questions..

Operator

And our final question comes from the line of Marco Rodriguez of Stonegate Capital. Your line is now open..

Marco Rodriguez

Good afternoon, guys. I finally got in there..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

We're delighted to have you. Thank you..

Marco Rodriguez

Thanks.

Most of my questions have actually been asked and well answered, just kind of one real quick follow-up, do you guys have a handle on where D&A is going to be coming out in 2016 with the Cryo acquisition?.

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Did you say G&A?.

Marco Rodriguez

No, depreciation and amortization..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Oh, okay. Go ahead, do you want to talk about that..

Bernard Birkett

We're still working through that. We have some valuations to do and that will be completed before the end of the quarter..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

The aggregate is built into our numbers on the depreciation and amortization..

Bernard Birkett

Yes we've got estimates in there, but we need to confirm..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

And we have to go to our third party to get the folks and has to do with goodwill. It has to do with intellectual property. It has to do with developed technology and all that sort of stuff. So I don't think it is confidential information and if we can share that with you once the valuation comes out, we'll be more than happy to do that Marco..

Marco Rodriguez

Got you.

Appreciate that and then maybe I missed this, did you guys updated EBITDA guidance for '16?.

Bernard Birkett

We haven't issued that at this stage..

Marco Rodriguez

Okay. All right. Very good. Appreciate it guys..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Okay. Great. Thanks Marco..

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time..

Fred Lampropoulos Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Chairman

Well ladies and gentlemen, we summarized, as I mentioned in my earlier comments we hit out topline and our bottom line for last year. We missed some things in the middle and it's not a science, it's an art but I think we accomplished the midline of progress.

I think we've restructured the business in terms of our accounting department and the accountability part of our business. We're restructured our compensation so that our sales force management, everybody is compensated on the personal lines all those into revenues, gross margins and ASPs.

We have plenty of products to sell and we've already seen with the Microcatheter, we're seeing it with our balloons and so it's not just anecdotal or hope. We're seeing that already and then on top of that you add what we think is a great tuck in acquisition, but something that has a lot more implications for the long run.

When we buy our share business several years ago, it was a really nice business, very profitable business, but it wasn’t a business segment per se. I think with this along with our other vascular products, it's kind of is a very, very big deal and that we expect a lot out of it and we're looking forward. And it's manageable.

We've proven for years and years that these tuck ins are very digestible for us and I think it's been probably one of the things we've done best. So topline we expect a good year.

The gross margin part is again the area that we think we can get the most leverage on and then but the business is changing and so yes, we're not going to get a lot of leverage on the SG&A side because of clinical specialists and launching these products and fans.

So that being said, it all comes down to topline and bottom line and sustainability and we have that. Now I hope you will give us credit for that. I hope we may have some of you that might think well I don't know if they can do this or do that.

If you go back and look at our topline, we've been very, very consistent and almost always correct, very seldom if we missed the topline for the year in our history.

The issue has always been the management of the expenses and the gross margins and I think we've structured the business and the visibility and the incentives to make sure that we get that. The staff is sitting here. Each one of them is accountable.

Each one is accountable monthly to their P&L and how it fits into the overall plan and we have the horses to be able to help them to assist, review and to get the results that we expect to get the kinds of returns that we expect. We got beat up a little bit today. I don't know where that came from.

I don't know what you guys will think about this, but I will tell you we're optimistic about our business, we're optimistic about this acquisition, we're very excited about the new products and the margins.

All of these new products subject to not the acquisitions because we have those additional expenses, but we believe over the intermediate term, when I say intermediate this year, on the second half and in the next year that our profits or gross margins on the HeRO business will improve.

We expect and our margins on our Microcatheters our Centesis Catheter, our relations balloons, our Touch 40, a lot of these products they're rolling out at above average corporate gross margins. So there you go. That's where we've been and that's where we're going. We hope you come along with us.

We look forward to -- we thank you for your interest and Bernard and I will be here for the next hour or two to answer any of the questions that we can. Thank you again and we'll go ahead and sign off from Salt Lake City, snowy Salt Lake City with almost 400 inches at Snowbird and hoping you come to see us soon. Good evening..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day..

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