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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q3
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Executives

Eddie Capel - CEO Dennis Story - CFO.

Analysts

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc. Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates.

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Chris, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Manhattan Associates Third Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period.

(Operator Instructions). As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this call is being recorded on today, October 21, 2014. I would now like to introduce Dennis Story, CFO of Manhattan Associates. Mr. Story, you may begin your conference..

Dennis Story

Thank you, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. I hope all of you including our Manhattan Associates that are listening in are having a super fantastic day. Welcome to Manhattan Associates’ 2014 third quarter earnings call. I will review our cautionary language and then turn the call over to Eddie Capel, our CEO.

During this call, including the question-and-answer session, we may make forward-looking statements regarding future events or future financial performance of Manhattan Associates.

You are cautioned that these forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, are not guarantees of future performance and that actual results may differ materially from projections contained in our forward-looking statements.

I refer you to the reports Manhattan Associates files with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our projections, particularly our Annual Report on Form 10-K for fiscal 2013 and the risk factor discussion in that report. We are under no obligation to update these statements.

In addition, our comments include certain non-GAAP financial measures in an effort to provide additional information to investors. All non-GAAP measures have been reconciled to the related GAAP measures in accordance with SEC rules.

You will find reconciliation schedules in our Form 8-K we submitted to the SEC earlier today and on our website at manh.com. Now, I’ll turn the call over to Eddie..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good afternoon, everybody. We’re quite pleased with our third quarter and year-to-date financial results. We posted record results across essentially all financial metrics. Our competitive position continues to improve and customer satisfaction continues to increase across the globe.

So heading into Q4 and 2015, we continue to be encouraged by our near-term and long-term growth prospects. For the quarter, we set new all-time revenue and earnings per share records. Q3 total revenue of 125.6 million increased 17% and adjusted earnings per share of $0.32 increased 23% over Q3 2013.

The combination of strong organic revenue growth and sensible expense discipline led to the best quarter in our company’s history. With these strong results, we’re raising our revenue and earnings per share guidance for the year, and Dennis will take you through those details in just a moment.

License revenue for quarter was $16.9 million, up 15% over Q3 last year led by a strong Americas performance bolstering our somewhat but expected sluggish EMEA and APAC license revenue performance. We closed four 1 million plus license deals in the quarter, two with new customers and two with existing customers.

Three of the large deals were in the U.S. and one was in Canada. Two of the four deals were led by omni-channel initiatives and the other two included our platform-based warehouse management and transportation management solutions. In all of these four deals, we were successful head-to-head against very strong competition.

Our sales teams continue to execute well and year-to-date competitive win rates in head-to-head sales cycles against major competitors remain very strong by 75%. License revenue from net new customers was about 30%.

And while the ratio of net new customers can fluctuate somewhat from quarter-to-quarter, we continue to be quite pleased with our new customer acquisition performance. Our consulting services business posted record revenues with Q3 revenue up 20%.

Demand and visibility continues to be quite strong and we added 35 associates to our global team in Q3 and we continue to search for about 100 more professional services people to meet the needs of our customers.

Overall, with our strong quarter and year-to-date performance, we’re certainly optimistic but can’t help to remain a little bit cautious as the global economy continues to exhibit some sluggish growth.

But our outlook is positive, our pipeline is solid, services business demand is strong, customer satisfaction is good and the implementations of our solutions continue to go very well.

Our focus remains on being the leading pure-play technology innovator in the supply chain commerce market, leveraging our platform strategy in investments and research and development to deliver solutions to help our customers get commerce ready in the new digital world.

I’ll provide more color in my business update following Dennis’ review of our financial results..

Dennis Story

Thanks, Eddie. I will review our financial performance, our 2014 full year guidance and finish with some initial comments on 2015. Well, we continued our solid 2014 performance firing on all eight cylinders posting total revenue of $125.6 million, an increase of 17% over Q3 2013.

By region, Americas grew 18%; EMEA grew 12% and APAC grew 11% compared to Q3 last year. Demand for our solutions continues to be solid in our target markets. Adjusted earnings per share for the quarter was a record $0.32 increasing 23% over prior year on solid revenue growth, continued expense management and our buyback program.

Manhattan continues to deliver strong organic top line growth and quality earnings leverage. Our GAAP diluted earnings per share was a record $0.30 increasing 20% over Q3 2013. A detailed reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP adjustments is included in our earnings release today. The remainder of my P&L discussion represents our adjusted results.

License revenue for the quarter totaled $16.9 million, up 15% over prior year. From a regional perspective, Americas posted license revenue of $15.6 million, EMEA $589,000 and APAC $705,000. EMEA and APAC license performance was impacted by usual Q3 summer holiday seasonality and a dose of regional macroeconomic weakness.

That said, our Q4 pipeline activity for both Europe and Asia is encouraging.

Overall, like any major enterprise software company selling mission-critical solutions, our license performance depends on the number and relative value of large deals, which can be impacted by tough macroeconomic headwinds, however, we continue to execute very well in our target markets as reflected in our competitive win rates and solid customer activity.

Shifting to services, customer demand continues to be strong. Q3 services revenue totaled $98.5 million increasing 16% year-over-year. Our service revenue is bifurcated into two revenue streams; consulting and maintenance. Our consulting revenue for the quarter totaled $69.4 million growing 20% over Q3 last year.

With solid demand year-over-year, we’ve grown our services practice by about 220 associates, up 14%. As Eddie noted, we continue to hire additional associates to support demand and focus on customer satisfaction. Maintenance revenue for the quarter totaled $29.1 million increasing 7% over last year on license revenue performance.

Retention rates also remained very strong at 90% plus. While there are no major impacts this quarter, as a reminder, we recognized annual maintenance renewal revenue on a cash basis, so the timing of cash collections can cause inter-period lumpiness from quarter-to-quarter.

Consolidated services margins were 56.1% in the quarter on strong revenue growth. For the year, we expect our 2014 services margins to be in the 55.4% to 55.6% range.

Consistent with historical performance, Q4 services margins will decline sequentially over Q3 principally driven by one, the retail holiday season as clients idle implementations; two, on-boarding second half new hire activity and three, continuing integration of our Global Bay investment.

All-in, we expect Q4 services margins to land in the 53% to 53.5% range, which is relatively consistent with Q4 2013 and Q4 2012. Operating expenses for the quarter were $34.3 million compared to $31 million in Q3 2013.

Operating expense was up 11%, driven by performance-based compensation, incremental expense from our Global Bay investment and early-stage global investments and facilities expansion and enterprise IT system replacements necessary to support our workforce growth and future scalability. Turning to operating income and margins.

With strong revenue growth, we delivered record Q3 adjusted operating income of $37.9 million with an operating margin of 30.1%, up 40 basis points over Q3 2013. Apples-to-apples, Q3 2014 operating margins increased 200 basis points.

As a reminder, in Q3 2013, our operating margin was 29.7%, which was unusually high benefiting from $2 million of accelerated maintenance collections and rupee currency impact. Excluding these items in Q3 2013, operating margins were 28.1%. On another note, in the quarter, operating income was negatively impacted by a strengthening rupee.

The impact was immaterial at $171,000, however, this is the first quarter since Q3 2011 the rupee has had a negative impact to operating income. While we’re not alarmed, we are currently modeling a stronger rupee into our preliminary 2015 projections. For 2014 full year, we expect about 200 to 220 basis point expansion in operating margin over 2013.

At the midpoint, this would peg 2014 full year adjusted operating income at about $136 million with year-over-year organic growth of 26% and an operating margin of about 28.2%. That covers the operating results.

Below the line and other income, we posted a slight loss of $55,000 in the quarter on FX losses compared to other income of $546,000 in Q3 2013. The more meaningful view is 2014 year-to-date where other income is essentially net zero compared to 1.9 million of benefit in 2013, driven by FX gains of $1.1 million.

As I’ve mentioned in the past, FX gains and losses reported in other income result from quarterly intercompany settlements with our international units. Given the volatile nature of foreign currency fluctuations, we do not attempt to forecast the impacts to other income.

So regarding taxes, our adjusted effective income tax rate was 37% versus 37.1% in Q3 2013. And on a year-to-date basis, our effective rate was 37.1% compared to 35.8% last year. Our 2014 higher effective tax rate is due primarily to two factors. First, a higher proportion of U.S.-based taxable income and second, the expiration of U.S.

R&D tax credit legislation in January 2014. As a reminder, 2013 results include two years of tax benefit significantly impacting year-over-year comps. That’s R&D tax benefit. We are projecting a full year effective tax rate of about 36.6%, which assumes a fourth quarter effective rate of about 35%.

The lower rate is driven by release of IRS tax audit reserves associated with the conclusion of our IRS audit for years 2011 and prior. Transitioning to diluted shares, for the quarter, diluted shares totaled 75.5 million shares, down from Q2 2014 shares of 76 million.

We continue to put excess cash to work investing $15 million to repurchase about 503,000 shares of Manhattan common stock in the quarter against option exercises of about 36,000 shares Year-to-date, we’ve reduced common shares outstanding 2.3% or 1.8 million shares net of option exercises.

For the balance of 2014, we estimate Q4 diluted shares to be about 75.4 million and the full year weighted average diluted shares to be 75.8 million. Our estimate does not assume additional common stock repurchases. Finally, on shares, last week our Board approved raising our share repurchase authority limit to a total of $50 million.

Now turning to cash flow. For the quarter, cash flow from operations totaled $32.7 million bringing year-to-date cash flow from operations to $53.7 million compared to $66.4 million last year. Our DSOs were 64 days with no change from Q2 2014. Capital expenditures were $3.1 million in Q3 and now we estimate full year 2014 CapEx to be about $8 million.

As we mentioned on our Q2 call, we expected our operating cash flow to strengthen in the second half as the quality of our trade receivables and cash collections remained strong and year-over-year incremental cash tax paid comps improve in the second half. We posted a solid Q3 and expect Q4 to be very solid.

Our balance sheet continues to support long-term strategic flexibility and stability with cash and investments totaling $112 million and zero debt at September 30, 2014 compared to $101 million at June 30, 2014. That covers my Q4 remarks. Let’s move on to our updated 2014 guidance and some early comments on 2015.

For 2014 adjusted earnings per share, we are raising our guidance estimate to $1.13 to $1.15 from our previous range of $1.10 to $1.12. The new range represents 23% to 25% growth over our 2013 adjusted EPS of $0.92. For Q4, we expect earnings per share to be lower than Q3 given the combined impact of seasonally lower Q4 services revenue.

Full year GAAP EPS guidance estimates also increased to $1.06 to $1.08 from our previous estimate of $1.03 to $1.05 representing 20% to 23% growth over our 2013 GAAP EPS of $0.88. For reference, the guidance table is provided in today’s earnings release.

For 2014 revenue, with one remaining quarter in 2014, we are raising and tightening our total revenue guidance estimate from $472 million to $477 million to $479 million to $481 million representing 16% growth.

With Q4 holiday seasonality and many retail clients idling back implementations in preparation for peak season, we expect our total revenue to be similar to our Q2 2014 results. While our license pipeline and potential transactions for Q4 look solid, we continue to remain cautious on timing of deal closings given the macro backdrop.

For services, due to the seasonality, we expect Q4 services revenue to be down sequentially from Q3 about 6.5% to 8%. In summary, achieving the midpoint of our raised 2014 full year guidance, we expect to post total revenue growth of about 16% and adjusted earnings per share growth of about 24%.

So 16% top line growth profile and 24% adjusted earnings per share growth profile. Now shifting focus to 2015, similar to prior years we’re just starting our 2015 budget cycle but here are a few early comments for adjusted EPS modeling purposes.

Overall, we expect the competitive environment to be about the same and remain cautious on the global macro environment. We are committed to driving shareholder return through steady revenue growth, consistent earnings growth and efficient management of our capital structure.

With our growth strategy and competitive position, we are positive on our outlook and still believe there is solid opportunity to take market share and drive potential earnings leverage. For revenue consistent with prior years, we plan to grow total revenue at about 1.5 times the expected market growth rate of about 5% to 7%.

So year-over-year growth of about 8% to 9% pegging the growth rate to the low end of analysts’ estimates. This estimate is currently consistent with street estimates which we’ll fine tune in our Q4 earnings call.

Adjusted operating margins, we are targeting operating margin expansion of about 50 basis points over 2014 with potential upside which we will address on a quarter-to-quarter basis going forward. For effective tax rate, our best estimate is 37.1% subject to U.S. federal, state and foreign tax legislation changes.

Diluted shares, we’re currently projecting about 75.2 million diluted shares per quarter, which assumes no buyback activity in Q4 2014 or the full year 2015. Now that covers my 2015 comments. We will provide more details on our Q4 earnings call. That covers my overall financial update. Now, I’ll turn the call back to Eddie for the business update..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Dennis. So first, let me provide a little more detail on the deals we closed in Q3. As I discussed at the beginning of the call, we recognized four large deals in the quarter, two in retail, one in earth sciences and one in third-party logistics.

All four deals were driven by strategic technology modernization programs with two of the four deals specifically driven by omni-channel initiatives. While we’re in the early innings, digital commerce continues to drive omni-channel interest across retail, manufacturing and wholesale.

The other two large deals were driven by distribution and transportation, management, legacy system replacements. We continue to see solid progress in our core verticals led by the retail segment. In Q3, our license fee mix was weighted about 50-50 between warehouse management and our other solutions.

A meaningful portion of our WMS and non-WMS license and services revenue activity continues to be driven by existing and new customer omni-channel initiatives and legacy supply chain modernization.

The retail, consumer goods and life sciences vertical were the strongest license fee contributors making up more than half of our license fee revenues for Q3 2014.

And we’re certainly very pleased with the successes we have achieved over the past two years or so as our software, platform technology and domain expertise are core differentiators when it comes to helping new and existing customers adapt today’s ever-changing market conditions and this is reflected in our win rates.

Q3 software license wins with new customers that have permitted us to share their names include Bass Pro, Citizen Watch of America, E.Land Group, Frito Lay Manufacturing, Groupe Robert, Suzhou Hengding Logistics, VBM Retail and Vida Panama Zona Libre.

Q3 expanding relationships with existing customers included Alliance Healthcare, Big Lots Stores, Cardinal Health, Central Retail Corporation, Chico’s Retail Services, Cotton On, e-Store Logistics, Federal-Mogul, Forever Direct, GENCO Distribution, Giant Tiger Stores, the Hillman Group, Holiday Classic, Hot Topic, Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus, Mothercare, MWI Veterinary Supply, My Chemist, Northern Safety Corporation, Origin Enterprises, Performance Team Freight Systems, Redmart, Sodimac Colombia, Stella & Dot, Super Retail Group, Thai Beverage, The Men’s Wearhouse and We Pak Logistics.

Our professional services business around the world continues to perform very well and receive high marks for customer satisfaction. And as you might expect, our global services teams are in full swing with retail omni-channel supply chain commerce enablement initiatives with over 100 system go-lives in the quarter.

There continues to be strong focus on store execution solutions at multi product platform-based implementations, and we expect this trend to continue. We continue to be the leading innovator in supply chain technology. We invested about $12 million in research and development in Q3 with 650 people dedicated to this area.

The core of our success is our strategy to grow through investment in forward thinking innovation and we continue to invest in innovation in a rapid pace to expand our addressable market and deliver market-leading omni-channel capabilities to our customers.

Recently, we were very pleased to be recognized for omni-channel innovation leadership in Forrester Wave Omni-channel Order Management report that was published in Q3 of 2014. The Forrester report evaluated nine vendors in the Omni-channel Order Management category reviewing current offering, strategy and market presence.

Manhattan Associates scored the highest of all vendors evaluated in the current offering category and stands out as a leader with the highest scores in customer service, store fulfillment, product roadmap and vision.

We continue to be positioned as the leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Warehouse Management Systems, the latest version that was published in September. This marks the seventh year that we’ve been positioned as the leader in this prestigious report. Industry analysts continue to recognize our market-leading solutions and customer satisfaction.

Our warehouse management system for open systems opened a significant lead over all competitors and received very high praise.

A short quote from the report; “WMOS offers industry-leading depth and breadth, leading and releasing a next-generation user interface and Manhattan is one of the few vendors that can address multichannel commerce on a single platform with competitive offerings in logistics and distributable to management where many other vendors are strong in one area or weak in others or have solutions on different platforms.” We believe that our enduring leadership position in this magic quadrant and further separation from our nearest competitor is reflective of our relentless focus on the customer, investment in innovation and the strong execution of our platform strategy for true supply chain convergence.

In August, we broadened our investment innovation announcing the acquisition of Global Bay Technologies from VeriFone Inc. This investment extends Manhattan’s market-leading omni-channel store inventory fulfillment and order lifecycle management solutions with a hardware independent, mobile point-of-sale and clienteling set of capabilities.

For our customers, this means that they now will have the ability to aggregate data that can present a single view of customer buying history across all selling channels along with a network wide view of available inventory.

This unique combination allows our retail customers to provide us complete sales and clienteling solution including best-in-class inventory and order management capabilities to their retail stores delivering a sophisticated and frictionless retail experience that the new omni-channel shopper has come to expect.

In addition to the Global Bay acquisition, on September 29 of this year, we announced the release of a unique capability within our market-leading omni-channel order management application. We branded it as Available to Commerce and are seeing a very favorable reaction to it from the marketplace.

Available to Commerce give retailers the power to offer specific units of inventory available to sale in the most appropriate channel; online, store, same-day delivery and so on. And it optimize how the order is fulfilled all based on a variety of strategic planning and daily operational variables.

Traditional inventory visibility systems can really only provide us a view of total inventory on-hand and are unable to accommodate the business rules or other factors to make specific inventory available for particular channels, delivery methods or customer types.

Available to Commerce takes into account all inventory transactions, synthesizes them with configured business rules and produces an effective availability picture for all inventory in real time.

Available to Commerce can ensure the profitability and the ability to execute are considered before the fulfillment promise is ultimately made to a consumer. Incidentally, we already have one customer live on the 2014 version of OLM that was released just this past September.

Our investment strategy is primarily driven by market demand for net new capabilities that don’t exist today in the market. Digital selling and omni-channel commerce have transformed a way customers shop and have raised the bar for retailers in how they engage with their customers.

Store associates today are expected to deliver a customer experience that is engaging, informative and profitable as profitability is accurate and efficient.

And to do this they must have the ability to see a complete omni-channel view of the customer, sell any unit of inventory across the entire network and effortlessly handle cross-channel transactions including returns and exchanges.

The combination of Manhattan’s enterprise inventory visibility, order management and store solutions with Global Bay’s point-of-sale and clienteling applications will deliver the industry’s only true omni-channel sales and fulfillment platform.

We believe that this new offering represents a notable competitive differentiating capability both for Manhattan Associates and their customers while at the same time expanding our adjusted market.

As you can tell that the core of our success continues to be our strategy to grow through investment and innovation coupled with a highly targeted and strategic acquisition strategy. Our supply chain process platform based suite of solutions including our omni-channel solutions distinguishes us from all other competitors.

Our R&D team continues to do a really excellent job of driving innovation in all product areas and we continue to deliver more robust and more efficient solutions to the markets we serve. Turning to our global associates for a moment, we ended Q3 with about 2,750 employees around the globe, up 9% over the prior year.

And 95% plus of our headcount growth is in our professional services group on strong demand to support top line growth and customer satisfaction. We finished the quarter with 68 people in sales and sales management with 61 quota-carrying sales reps, up three heads from last quarter.

We intended to continue to be opportunistic and look to add about half a dozen additional talented sales professionals to our company. In early October, we completed three European customer conferences; one in the UK, one in Central Europe and one in France.

Attendance was terrific at all three of these conferences and the mood was positive, especially given the state of the local economies. And while we expect the economies across Europe to continue to be somewhat challenged, particularly in the UK, we’re encouraged by our customers’ enthusiasm about our solutions and our partnership with them.

The focus and interest level in omni-channel was also quite encouraging from all the industry leaders in those geographies. We’ll close out our international customer conferences for the year in late October with one event in Mexico and another one in Australia where we expect similar enthusiasm given the registration level at both events.

So let me close my prepared remarks with a brief summary. We’re very, very pleased with our 2014 year-to-date performance and we remain focused on our customers and getting them commerce ready.

Our relative competitive position continues to be strong and it’s improving, and we plan to continue to invest in innovation, to extend our market leadership and differentiation in supply chain, commerce enablement.

With the world’s most talented supply chain employees, the best software solutions and great market momentum, we’re well positioned for the balance of 2014 and beyond. With that, Chris, I’d now be happy to take any questions..

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Mark Schappel with Benchmark. Your line is open..

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc.

Hi. Good evening. Thanks for taking the call. Nice job in the quarter again.

Eddie, starting with you, is it fair to assume that you saw the normal competitive suspects in your large deals?.

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, I think that’s – by the way, hello Mark, good to talk to you. Not a ton has changed in the macro competitive environment. The usual suspects and the usual competitors are out there for us..

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc.

Okay, great. And then also over the past couple of quarters, there’s been a focus – seemed to be a particular focus from your customers on your in-store inventory and fulfillment solutions, and I was just wondering if that trend continued for the most part this quarter..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, it did. And I think we’ve talked about it before. We’ve got a combination of already live or being implemented thousands of stores now on our store inventory and fulfillment solution which is quite rewarding and providing some terrific benefit for our customers. And as you essentially alluded to, that trend has not slowed down in Q3..

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc.

Okay. And then one more question and one for Dennis here, but with respect to your hiring activity, it seemed to slow a little this quarter with only 35 new consultants hired.

Was this just kind of a one-quarter blip that we can expect or are you really having a real hard time finding qualified people?.

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, actually, Mark, so we’re doing quite a bit of hiring directly off campus. So you will see a little bit of lumpiness based upon graduation times and so forth. So we generally have two major classes coming in, one at the beginning of the year and one during the typical graduation time at the end of Q2.

So as we continue that program, you will see a little bit of volatility quarter-to-quarter..

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc.

Okay, great. And then, Dennis, one for you here. With respect to your 2015 preliminary outlook for revenue growth, you mentioned 8% to 9% revenue growth.

Was that license or was that just total revenue growth you were referring to?.

Dennis Story

Total revenue growth..

Mark Schappel - The Benchmark Company, Inc.

Thank you. That’s all for me..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Okay. Thanks, Mark..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman from Raymond James. Your line is open..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Hi, guys.

Can you all hear me okay?.

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We can, Terry, thanks. Yes..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Hi, guys. I’d echo Mark’s comment, nice job on the quarter. I guess the first question, maybe it’s more of a – it is a macro question. Yesterday, a large technology company, NCR, talked about – when they released numbers, talked about retail being a real area of weakness I believe. And I know you talk about being cautious overall in the macro.

But the license results, it’s four quarters in a row of double-digit license growth in retail. It sounds like it’s the strong part of your business.

Can you help us reconcile some of these kind of crosscurrents we’re hearing on retail and then the consistency you’ve seen in your business? Is it shifting in prioritization of budgets or how would you reconcile some of these crosscurrents?.

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, sure. A couple different comments in there. So, Terry, from our perspective we have yet to see and feel a real tailwind in the global macro economy. So with that, we feel duty bound just to offer a consistent little bit of caution that’s out there.

That said, we’re very pleased with our performance over the last number of quarters, frankly, and continue to be very optimistic about the future. So please don’t confuse that overall general caution with our optimism and the bright outlook we believe we have going forward.

With regard to NCR’s comments around retail and so forth, of course I don’t know their business anything like as well as they do, so I can only tell you kind of what we’re seeing. There is strength in retail for sure driven by the revolution that we’re seeing, the omni-channel phenomenon.

We do believe it is still in the early innings, so there is a lot of strength there we believe still going forward. I really can’t pass a lot of comments on what NCR is seeing but I would say from our perspective, we do see the in-store experience moving to a very personal one, a very mobile one and a hardware independent clienteling experience.

So I don’t know if that is something that NCR are on sort of the backside of there or not, but certainly that’s the direction that we’re seeing that in-store hardware is becoming device agnostic..

Dennis Story

Terry, the other thing through the financial eyes is, is that tough macroeconomics not necessarily bad for Manhattan Associates given the retail dynamics that Eddie was talking about. We have a long history of driving efficiency in supply chains, but now we’re also on that consumer side in terms of driving revenue for our customers as well.

So it’s a pretty nice dynamic and I think we’re getting recognized or the market’s validating our ability to monetize the supply chain..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Okay, got it. And I guess, Eddie, as it relates to two deals or I guess two of the four deals that were omni-channel oriented.

I guess was distributed order management or order management product a part of that? And just typically are these omni-channel led deals or are they bigger in size than your average deal in general?.

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Let’s see. So when we refer to, I guess as a point of clarification when we – we’ve been doing business for a little while now, when we refer to an omni-channel deal, yes, it’s led generally speaking by order lifecycle management solution, Terry, and no WMS component, no TMS component or anything else like that.

So generally it’s going to be order lifecycle management and probably the store execution components as well, number one. Number two, obviously we talk about our ASP, our average selling price as being 250 to 750. Two of the deals this quarter were omni-channel related and we’re double [comma] (ph) or greater than a $1 million deal.

So that’s certainly above our average selling price and obviously we don’t go into what kind of details around deal size, but they are commensurate with the larger execution solution sized deals, WMS and TMS certainly..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Okay, great. And I guess, Dennis, a quick question on Global Bay.

Should we think about the contribution either in the third quarter or fourth quarter? Is it immaterial on the software side? Any perspective you can give on that and/or it’s accretion dilution or is it neutral to earnings?.

Dennis Story

It’s slightly dilutive. We would expect it to be neutral to earnings in the back half of 2015 and it’s really immaterial on the license side..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Okay. And I guess my last question is just related to the initial outlook for '15 --.

Dennis Story

Terry, let me add one other thing. From my perspective, Eddie talked about the strategy with Global Bay in his script, okay. I view it as low-risk, high-return potential, the profit’s made in the buy not in the sale..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

And again, accretive or modestly accretive starting in the second half of '15 or neutral you said?.

Dennis Story

Neutral..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

Got it, okay. And just the last question, Dennis, is for you. If I go back 2011, '12, '13 and even this year, you have comfortably been above 10% total revenue growth. I know that you’ve had a certain kind of MO in the past, under promise and over deliver, but initially you are talking 8% to 9% growth.

Is there anything to read in the sales coverage, the pipeline activity, or should we just chalk this up – you still got a quarter to go in the year this year and just leaving some conservatism in place? Thank you..

Dennis Story

Yes, we still got some wood to chop with one quarter left and we’ll focus on that. But we’re not going to get away. We like our MO. We don’t see anything systemic at this stage, but we’re going to stick with our MO..

Terry Tillman - Raymond James & Associates

All right. Thanks, guys..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Terry..

Operator

(Operator Instructions). There are no further questions at this time. I’ll turn the call back over to our presenters..

Eddie Capel President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good. Thank you, Chris. Thank you everybody for joining us this afternoon. We’ve enjoyed reporting out to you Q3 results and we’ll look forward to doing the same for Q4 in about 90 days or so. Bye-bye..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect..

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