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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2024 - Q1
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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the ImmuCell Corporation Reports First Quarter ended March 31, 2024 Unaudited Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded. .

I would now like to turn the conference call over to Joe Diaz of Lytham Partners. Please go ahead. .

Joe Diaz

Thank you, Nick. Good morning, and welcome to all. As Nick indicated, my name is Joe Diaz, and I'm with Lytham Partners, we're Investor Relations consulting firm for ImmuCell. I thank all of you for joining us today to discuss the unaudited financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2024. .

The Listeners are reminded and cautioned that statements made by management during the course of this call include forward-looking statements, which include any statement that refers to future events or expected future results or predictions about steps the company plans to take in the future.

These statements are not guarantees of performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results, outcomes or events to differ materially from those discussed today. .

Additional information regarding forward-looking statements and the risks and uncertainties that could impact future results, outcomes or events is available under the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements or the safe harbor statement provided with the press release and the Form 10-K that the company filed last night, along with the company's other periodic filings with the SEC.

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Information discussed on today's call speaks only as of today, Wednesday, May 15, 2024. The company undertakes no obligation to update any information discussed on today's call. Please note that references to certain non-GAAP financial measures may be made during today's call.

The company included definitions of these terms as well as reconciliations of these figures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures in last night's press release in order to better assist you in understanding its financial performance. .

With that said, let me turn the call over to Michael Brigham, President and CEO of ImmuCell Corporation, after which we will open the call for your questions.

Michael?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Thanks, Joe, and good morning, everyone. This is the story of the really good and a bit of the frustrating. With regards to the first quarter, I would like to speak about 2 financial disclosures that I think help demonstrate what we believe could be a critical turning point for our business. .

First, product sales were up 111% during the first quarter of 2024 compared to the first quarter of 2023. And sales were up 33% during the trailing 12-month period ended March 31, 2024, compared to the year, the 12-month -- trailing 12-month period ended March 31, 2023. .

So again, 111% quarter-over-quarter, 33% trailing 12 over trailing 12.

This improvement is largely the result of production output by implementing and optimizing a multiyear investment to increase our production capacity, we achieved $7.2 million worth of production during the first quarter of 2024, which annualizes to $28.7 million or about 96% of our $30 million full capacity estimate.

This level of production remains our aspirational goal, but we do not expect that it can be repeated or exceeded on a regular basis. The $7.3 million in sales recorded during the first quarter of 2024 represents an all-time quarterly sales record for us. The next highest quarter was $6 million recorded during the first quarter of 2022. .

Second, with those strong sales, we were able to turn earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization or EBITDA of negative $1.6 million during the quarter ended March 31, 2023, to positive EBITDA of $377,000 during the quarter ended March 31, 2024.

Our gross margin as a percentage of product sales improved from 9% during the quarter ended March 31, '23 to 32% during the quarter ended March 31, 2024, but this is still well short of our 45% target. .

Cash is tight. In response, we have frozen certain capital expenditure investments for the time being, but we have no draw outstanding on our $1 million line of credit that is available to us until September of 2025. So that is the big picture.

With regards to the other financial results, the press release provides the full unaudited P&L results and some unaudited summary balance sheet data. Further, our Form 10-Q provides all the unaudited financial details and management's discussion and analysis. I will now take our time on this call to review all that in detail. .

I would like to add that we have been driven by data as we remediate the contamination events that have plagued us recently. Improvements made throughout our production process are allowing us to come back into full production.

We believe that the operational improvements implemented are allowing us to run more effectively at a 100 output level going forward. To be successful, we must avoid future significant contamination events and equipment breakdowns and operate with good production yield. .

So we will remain focused on the commercial opportunity we have with First Defense. But as is often the case in the regulatory approval process, we are frustrated by yet another regulatory delay in our effort to bring retain to market. The FDA recently issued a CMC technical section in complete letter in response to our third submission of vein.

Pursuant to the incomplete letter, the FDA has provided some minor questions about our submission requiring a fourth submission of the CMC Technical Section, which is typically subject to a 6-month review.

However, the FDA has indicated that this resubmission potentially could be handled through a shortened review period because the items -- open items are not complex.

Most critical to the timeline however, is that the FDA has also required that we not resubmit the CMC Technical Section until the inspectional observations at the facilities of our drug product contract manufacturer are resolved. .

Given the unique facts and circumstances we are working with the FDA and our drug product contract manufacture to obtain an expedited review. This is part of the process, and we are continuing to move forward.

Regardless, we remain poised and excited to revolutionize the way that subclinical mastitis is treated in today's dairy market with a novel alternative to traditional antibiotics without FDA required milk discard or meat withhold claims. .

So lastly, I encourage you to review the press release and the quarterly report on Form 10-Q that we filed last night. Also, pleased to have a look at our corporate presentation slide deck. I believe it provides a very good summary of our business strategy and objectives as well as our current financial results.

A May update was just posted to our website last night, see the Investors section of our website and click on corporate presentation or contact us for a copy. .

With that said, I'll be happy to take your questions. Let's have the operator open up the lines, please. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Frank Gasca, Private Investor. .

Frank Gasca

First of all, Mike, sure relief having kind of sales for the quarter. Keep it up. . .

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. I share that sentiment. Very exciting. Thank you. .

Frank Gasca

My question deals with the shelf and the offering, could you clarify that in regards to at the market and your -- how you go to designating or allowing a certain quantity at per time?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes, Frank, I think one of the big benefits of the ATM is its flexibility. So the answer to your question can change day to day, week to week, month to month.

I think the biggest distinction between the ATM instrument versus the traditional -- more traditional offering as the traditional offering would have gone out at, frankly, a significant discount to market. And with this vehicle, we can just sort of watch the market and make adjustments as appropriate, the downside is.

It takes a lot longer to raise some money because you're just sort of nibbling at the market. So we kind of looked at that real hard year-end and going into the first quarter and pro and cons and kind of decided this was a good opportunity to raise a little bit of money without the anticipated more significant discount. .

But I guess the short answer to your question is it's a management discretion, Board discretion really on a day-to-day basis. .

Frank Gasca

Okay.

I -- so some shares have, in fact, been on authorize and sold?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. So perhaps I should have included that in my comments, but it is in our disclosures. You can see that in both the financial footnotes. There's an equity section footnote, then there's a subsequent event footnote.

And then in the very beginning of the MD&A, really the 3 places repeat the same information about $300,000 has been raised gross proceeds. .

Frank Gasca

Okay. I did see that. And as far as you do not disclose or do you when, in fact, you are selling or not selling. .

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Well, the Board -- through me, the Board communicates to the banker and set thresholds of both volume and price. And I think through our quarterly -- I know through our quarterly reports, we would report the results of that interaction in that activity. .

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Potter with Monarch Capital Group. .

Michael Potter

So certainly a mixed quarter. on the news front. Congratulations operationally. Obviously, I kind of scratching my head on -- in regards to retain. Can you walk us through the inspectional observation.

What is the process here and the time line to get to the process?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. Honestly, it is live, it is active. It is undetermined. There's going to be a lot of back and forth that we're not going to be party to. It's directly between the FDA and Norbrook. But Norbrook does communicate very well with us. So we'll get status reports, but their ability to respond is that their discretion. I would add, they're a big company.

They have other products. They're motivated beyond just retain to get it right. .

And then once they do that, it will be up to the FDA to determine how quick they review and how quick they -- and what the results of that review is. So it's frustrating not to have a more definitive answer to, but we just don't have that at this point. It's just very fresh. .

Michael Potter

Okay.

And when will we notified by the FDA that they were not moving forward with the approval?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. It was right on as expected, right, on the 180-point and that was -- well, I think we'd even disclosed, this is May 10. .

Michael Potter

This is May 10. So this is all fresh. So we're just getting our arms around the go-forward process at this point. .

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Exactly, right. It's like going -- that's what I meant by the good and the frustrating. The good -- you pointed out the sales the, frustrating is this, wow, we thought this was end stage, late in the game. And didn't get -- we didn't get the complete.

So yes, over the weekend, over the weeks so far and over the coming weeks, there'll just be a lot of back and forth, how quickly can Norbook respond, how effectively can Norbook respond and how quick can the FDA concur. . .

Operator

The next question comes from Maynard Fernandez with McDill Columbus. .

Maynard Fernandez

ICC has now achieved 95% of maximum production volume, but still has not turned to profit for the quarter. How can ICC turn a profit, if not with 95% of production volume. That's the first question.

The second question is when do you project to produce a profit?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes, that's a fair question, Maynard. The best answer I have is our -- the first thing I turn to is statement of cash flows, and I just look at the depreciation. So while it's not a bottom line profit, it is cash flow positive when you look at EBITDA, and that's obviously not a GAAP measure.

So that's not -- well, the depreciation expenses in our GAAP reports, the EBITDA figure is just in our press release. .

So I think that's step one in the transition from this product development, retain driven loss to cash flow and then to P&L next, but I didn't put a projection on the date for that. It really is a transition here that we're looking at '24 as how strong we can keep the sales.

how quickly we can reduce some expenses as this retain project that drives almost all of our product development expense as that moves from development to commercial. So a lot of events in '24 to answer that question. .

Operator

The next question comes from Sean Kirkwood with SRK Capital. .

Sean Kirkwood

So I have a few questions about margins. From the 10-Q, it sounds like maybe it was yield that is causing margins to be lower than the 45% target.

Can you just kind of speak a little bit more detail about what is affecting those margins?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. yield is always a big one, and it is variable. I mean just a biological process. And we try and manage it as tight as possible, but they do go up and down. It's just -- milk is our source raw material cows that produce it.

I'm not to digress too far, but one of our marketing positions that we take is that don't vaccinate your cows, use First Defense, so you don't have to be subject to the variability that is inevitable with a vaccine -- or the commercial vaccine response. .

So what our customers see on the commercial side, we see every day in our production plan. So it is variable. And the other factor I would add to that is these contaminations are expensive. They did drag down the margin. And so moving forward with better yields and moving forward with lesser or limited contaminations would certainly improve the margin. .

That's definitely the goal. And I think we also need to accept the fact that this is a difficult product to make. It is expensive to make. I was looking at some numbers just last night back before Tri-Shield, we were a $10 million company, $10 million in sales. .

Tri-Shield has really changed our top line, a lot of growth, a lot of customer demand coming from to Tri-Shield, but it is more expensive to make.

So I'm not disappointed, not surprised by the stress on the margin when you consider those 3 factors, but I'd much rather be a multi-format company with Tri-Shield than a smaller company with just a relatively less expensive bolus offering. .

Sean Kirkwood

Okay. So I mean it looks like contamination was only about 1% of the margin in the quarter, if I read that correctly.

But how does the -- how do you improve margins from here to your target of 45%?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes, we're going to push all those buttons. There are things we can do to influence yield and control the process -- controlling the process eliminates some of -- hopefully eliminates or at least mitigate those contamination challenges, and then volume. .

Just we had a lot of fixed costs, higher volume over those fixed costs is always going to work in our favor. And yes, it's certainly a priority, but I respect the question and, it is a management goal to get that percentage, but I also have to balance that with the dollars. We don't pay the bills with percentages.

We pay it with dollars and we need more gross margin dollars to pay the bills and to get back to Maynard's question, get back to profitability. It's total dollars. And even if that comes with a slightly less margin, that may -- I think that's a better alternative than being that bolus company at $10 million. .

Sean Kirkwood

Okay.

So like these margins are historically much lower than, say, what you even did in your highest quarter 2022? Do you see any improvement moving forward? What should we expect going forward in Q2 and the remainder of the year? Is this a new normal of 33% margin?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Well, yes, the improvement, the first step, as I mentioned, both in the call and the filings is moving off that disasters is [ 9 232]. So now the huge focus is how quickly and how close can we move from 32% to 45%. We do always talk about the gross margin gap percentage.

But the other thing I do look at is, again, cash, and depreciation is a component of our cost of goods. .

I'd be happy with the with a near 45% margin, that could be 45% when we remove the noncash depreciation. So we're looking at that measure, the cash flow measure and all those buttons to increase that yield. So it is a future-looking thing.

It will be subject to performance and subject to future disclosures, how quickly and how close can we move from 32%, 33% to 45%, at least 45% before depreciation. .

Sean Kirkwood

Right.

I mean is there any improvement as of today from the first quarter or we're still looking at 32%?.

Michael Brigham President, Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Treasurer, Secretary & Director

Yes. The same thing may not satisfy you, Sean, but it is the truth. We really the costing, the production process is so complex. We get a view as with our auditors quarterly. There's really not a weekly or monthly way to accurately measure that, metric expect and anticipate certain trends. But I mean this is a 6-month production process.

So the best answer to that is quarterly to quarterly and interim views are not disclosed because they're just not accurate. .

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Joe Diaz for any closing remarks. .

Joe Diaz

Thanks, Nick, and thank all of you for joining on today's call. We look forward to talking with you again to review the results of the second quarter, which ends on June 30, 2024, and that will be some time during the week of August 12. So thank you for your time. Have a great day. .

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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