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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2024 - Q4
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Jonathan Schaffer Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning and welcome to the IAS fourth quarter and full year 2024 financial results conference call. I'm joined today by Lisa Utzschneider, CEO, and Jill Puttman, Interim CFO. Before we begin, please note that today's call and prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements.

We refer you to the company's filings with the SEC posted on our Investor Relations site at investors.integralads.com. For more details about important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. We will also refer to non-GAAP measures on today's call.

A reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is contained in today's earnings release available on our Investor Relations site. All financial comparisons unless noted otherwise are based on the prior year period.

So with these formalities out of the way, I'd now like to turn the call over to our CEO, Lisa Utzschneider. Lisa, you may begin..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

delivering performance and ad effectiveness, expanding our reach to better serve our customers, and innovating further immediate efficiency and protection. We recently announced total media performance or TMP, a suite of pre-bid optimization insights products that maximize ad performance while protecting brand equity.

The TMP suite includes dynamic performance profiles or DPP. DPP delivers performance or brand outcomes by automatically adjusting path and customer outcomes data. DPP is offered on all major DSPs through our pre-bid integration and is designed to seamlessly align pre and post-bid media quality controls.

We are expanding our reach in several ways, including the scaling of our pre-bid optimization solution across the largest social platforms. In addition, mid-market represents a meaningful opportunity.

We have dedicated resources to developing products specifically for mid-market customers who require seamless self-serve solutions that are easy to activate. We are innovating our offerings to prioritize media efficiency and protection. In the fourth quarter, we launched Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. curation with Google Ad Manager.

With our curation, advertisers can now consolidate bidding on high-quality inventory and precisely target contextually relevant content to drive efficiency for their ad buys. We look forward to expanding our curation to more SSPs in 2025. In CTV, we are excited to build on our momentum in this high-growth market.

We are focused on helping advertisers extend the capabilities they use for open web and social media to drive efficiency and performance for their fast-growing CTV spend. We expect to scale adoption of Publica's new product features built to increase bidding competition in ad auctions. Integral Ad Science Holding Corp.

and Publica will continue to focus on supply path optimization to connect buyers and sellers in the most efficient ways possible. Our AI and data strategy is critical to driving both product innovation and cost efficiency.

We are advancing our data science capabilities by deploying cutting-edge AI models that are designed not only to accelerate time to market and scale new products but also to reduce processing costs.

By harnessing the power of our data, we empower brands and publishers to unlock new innovative use cases to maximize ad performance and operational efficiency. We made significant progress in 2024 as we advanced our technology and deepened our partnerships across the online ecosystem.

In 2025, we believe we will see new opportunities to deploy our technology and deliver impact for brand marketers. We expect to deliver double-digit profitable growth in 2025 as we expand our coverage across formats, channels, and markets. Last month, we announced the appointment of Jill Puttman as interim chief financial officer.

Jill has served as an Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. board member since 2021 and was also our audit committee chair. She is a proven finance leader with over 30 years of experience, including as CFO of Jamf Holding Corp. We thank Jill for stepping into the role, and we have engaged with an executive search firm to find a permanent CFO.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Jill to review the financials and then we'll take your questions..

Jill Puttman

we expect to maintain gross margin for the full year 2025 in the range of 77% to 79%. First quarter stock-based compensation expense is expected in the range of $15 million to $17 million and $77 million to $81 million for the full year.

We expect weighted average shares outstanding for the first quarter in the range of 163 million and 165 million to 167 million shares for the full year. We expect an effective tax rate of approximately 30% for the year 2025. In conclusion, we report solid fourth quarter results which enabled us to achieve the rule of 48 for the full year 2024.

In 2025, we will continue to invest in differentiated products while managing our costs. Our 2025 outlook calls for double-digit revenue growth and strong adjusted EBITDA profitability. And with that, Lisa and I are now ready to take your questions..

Operator

To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Kelley with Stifel..

Mark Kelley

Great. Thank you and good morning everyone. First of all, nice quarter, especially given what we've heard from the broader ad tech community over the last few weeks. So well done. First question is, you know, your main competitor called out political as a headwind.

With brands really not coming back post-election, curious to hear what you saw in the quarter around political, and then just second question on CTV.

You know, as CTV scales and continues to shift towards more real-time bidding and less on direct deals, I guess, how does that impact your business overall in terms of volume and pricing? Thank you very much..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Mark. Happy to take both questions. So the first one around political spending, a couple of callouts. The impact from political was limited to the lead-up to elections in November. On the advertiser business side, we did see some political headwinds. Well, the publisher side, it actually benefited from increased political spend.

We were also pleased to see advertiser spends uptick in retail and CPG verticals. They improved in the fourth quarter with continued strength in the financial service sector.

And with your second question related to CTV, the ongoing shift to real-time bidding, we actually see that as a tailwind for our business as we continue to invest in our CTV product offerings, especially in Publica as we noted in our fourth quarter results.

We are seeing strength in publisher across the board, in particular CTV with a 30% year-over-year growth in the fourth quarter..

Mark Kelley

Great. Thank you, Lisa..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Youssef Squali with Truist..

Youssef Squali

Great, good morning, everyone. And, yeah, congrats on an impressive quarter, all things considered. Maybe just two questions on one on pricing.

Can you maybe talk about what you've seen in pricing maybe delineating pricing and measurement, particularly from the moat wins versus non-moat clients? And then, still on the measurement, did measurement get a lift in growth from maybe having the pre-bid product on Meta in Q4 already, which was a bit ahead of where your competitor was? Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi, Youssef. Thank you for the questions. So the first question related to pricing on measurement from moat versus non-moat. We were thrilled with the wins that we put up on the board during last year's summer of Oracle. You might remember the win rate was north of 70% with 75 plus wins. It was a competitive jump ball situation.

But we were able to demonstrate both with the differentiation of our products the value that we offer these new customers coming from we were able to see a high win rate. But there were pricing dynamics during those RFP jump balls.

And then the second question related to the uptick in measurement, a couple of callouts there, we continue to see nice adoption of total media quality across all of our social platforms. Where we're seeing the adoption is within the top 100 advertising customers. Think of those as the enterprise accounts. Especially from top 51 to 100 advertisers.

The sales teams are very focused on driving TMQ adoption across all the major markets for these global advertisers. The second call out with TMQ is we also announced last year in the back half of the year new social platforms that we rolled out TMQ.

Including platforms like Snap, Pinterest, and Reddit, and being able to expand reach in new platforms, that's also driving TMQ growth and adoption of our social measurement revenue. And then in terms of the launch of the pre-bid social optimization, we were thrilled when Meta selected Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. last summer.

I'm sure you remember that. They selected us to be the beta partner to co-build the pre-bid social optimization products. We launched it beta last September. We launched in fourth quarter GA. We're very pleased with the ramp that we're seeing in pre-bid social on Meta through the fourth quarter and into the first quarter.

It's early days with that launch, but a few things to call out in terms of what we're learning is we're seeing a 71% reduction in wasted ad spend in unsuitable content. With the brands that have adopted the product. Again, a demonstration of the value that we're driving. But it's early days.

So the team, we're just focused on driving the adoption, ensuring we're demonstrating the value, and the other thing that's important to call out is that the clients that are adopting the product, they're already running our post-bid measurement solution on Meta. And, again, we're running the pre-bid social both on Meta and on TikTok..

Youssef Squali

Yep. Got it. Thank you, Lisa..

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Helfstein with Oppenheimer..

Jason Helfstein

Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Two questions. So, Lisa, it would seem that pre-bid could have a much higher coverage I don't want to say a hundred percent, but much higher coverage where relevant whereas post-bid and verification potentially is much smaller coverage similar to the way Nielsen measures TV with limited sampling.

Given that I started with post-bid and is now expanding much more significantly with pre-bid across all the different areas you've talked about.

How does it change your visibility in the long-term outlook for the business? And then second, Jill, could you perhaps give us your outlook for the full year by segment and format if you can give any color there? Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Thanks, Jason. Thank you for the question. So I'll take the first question around pre-bid post-bid, and visibility that we have into the business. So a couple of things to call out there. The first is exactly to your question, we are doubling down and investing heavily in performance, and our performance capabilities in programmatic.

As I mentioned earlier in the call in 2025, when we think about our product roadmap, we're focused on three key objectives. That includes delivering performance as brands are doubling down on things like performance, efficiency, transparency, ROI. The second thing we're focused on is expanding reach.

Expanding reach both in terms of new platforms, new inventories, international expansion. And then the third key area is innovation, both with media efficiency and protection. By leveraging AI. So we are all hands on deck when it comes to programmatic and performance. And in particular, linking performance and media cost data.

And with that, because we're doubling down on all things related to performance and pre-bid, we're seeing really nice adoption from several key pre-bid products that we launched, total visibility being one of them.

And because we're seeing nice adoption of total visibility where we're able to link up media quality signals with cost data, we are getting closer and a better understanding to advertisers and how they're planning their pre-bid buying.

And with that, it gives us greater visibility in terms of revenue forecast both on the post-bid side and the pre-bid side. One other point tied to that, I made it earlier about social pre-bid and Meta. Is that advertisers who are adopting pre-bid social optimization in Meta, they have to be running post-bid measurement solutions on Meta.

So with that, because we already know what they're running post-bid and they're adopting the pre-bid product, that's another great example of how we're seeing transparency, both at the pre-bid and post-bid level.

Jill, would you like to take Jason's second question?.

Jill Puttman

Yeah. Sure. Hey. Good morning, Jason. As far as how we're thinking about growth across the business in 2025, total advertiser revenue is expected to have double-digit growth.

We're seeing improved optimization performance in the first quarter relative to the fourth quarter, expect this growth rate to outpace both the Q1 and the full year guidance that we provided for the total revenue growth.

For measurement, we expect single-digit growth in the first quarter that will be below the guide we've provided again for the total revenue with improvement throughout the full year. And then for publisher, we expect double-digit growth here as well in both Q1 and for the full year. And to outpace the forecasted CTV growth rates..

Jason Helfstein

Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays..

Raimo Lenschow

Thanks. Congrats for me as well and welcome, Jill. Lisa, one more on the industry. Since the election, we've obviously seen a change in terms of how some of the social media companies want to look at their content. Has that changed any discussions with clients? Because it does feel like that should kind of improve the standing for you guys.

Tremendously because you can help them in the kind of more evolving environment there. And then I have one follow-up..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Thank you for the question, Raimo. So when you look back, CES is every year in early January, and it's when we spend time with some of our biggest advertisers, the holding companies, the platform clients.

And during that week, it was both when Meta announced that they were doing away with fact-checking, and then also, there was the unknown of whether or not TikTok would be banned in the US.

And that gave us the opportunity to have many face-to-face discussions with our largest advertisers, and holding companies and have the conversation about their social strategy in 2025.

And with that, it's too early to say whether or not some of these shifts we're seeing with the social platforms is an opportunity for Integral Ad Science Holding Corp.

But I will say our role in the digital ecosystem, our role in providing a best-in-class multimedia classification in all of the major live feeds of social platforms is a tailwind for our business. The brands were very clear during CES. Integral Ad Science Holding Corp., you're in the business of trust. We trust the accuracy of your multimedia tech.

We trust the efficiency, the velocity, the granularity of it, and they're leaning into us to help navigate with them the environment that we're operating in right now, and that's a big reason why we continue to invest deeply in our tech..

Raimo Lenschow

Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. That's very clear. And then another question on the Oracle wins. Like, can you talk a little bit about progression there? It does look like you're having good progress here in terms of converting them and kind of getting them on the platform. But what's the where are we on that journey? Thank you, and congrats again..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Thank you. So with Oracle, and I spoke to you before, our win rate and the fact that fourth quarter you might remember Oracle, they shut down, shut off their solution to their entire customer base at the end of September.

So the fourth quarter of 2024 was very much the quarter to drive the integrations, get all of the new customers on board, adopting our products, and where we see nice upsell, cross-sell opportunity is with the brands in particular. Because Oracle did not have a robust brand safety suitability solution.

Also, important to call out where we see additional runway is in the mid-market channel. Oracle had a robust mid-market base, and it's great to have Mark Robowsky on board as our COO who was formerly the global CRO of Oracle. Who has a deep background in mid-market. Mid-market is an area that we're investing heavily in.

And then the third call out is we did have a few more wins with Oracle. Following our earnings call last November. In particular, in the luxury and finance services verticals..

Raimo Lenschow

Perfect. Well done. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Coolbrith with Evercore ISI..

Robert Coolbrith

Thank you. Just wanted to ask a couple, please. Going back a number of years to the IPO, you had talked about performance measurement as a potential TAM expander. We've seen a competitor get involved in the MTA space just recently. And I think just generally across the industry, you're seeing a lot of interest in incrementality.

You talked a lot last quarter, I think, about your data assets in particular and how they can be leveraged over time.

Is measurement or MTA an area that you're looking at more closely? And anything you could tell us about that?.

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah, Robert. Thank you for the question. So as I mentioned before, we're very focused on doubling down in performance and what I mean by performance is activation. Our working thesis is helping brands find higher quality media, leads to higher ROI.

And the way we're doing that is by leveraging the media quality signals, our contextual signals, and marrying that up with cost data tied to outcomes. In terms of our data assets, we have a robust data because we're classifying so much data, billions and billions of web events every single day.

And with our data assets, we're doing a lot of interesting work right now layering our media quality data, with third-party audience signals and first-party brand signals. This is focusing on more of that performance activation that I spoke to before, and that's our primary area of focus. In 2025 is performance and activation..

Robert Coolbrith

Got it. Thank you. And then second one, if I could ask, there have been a couple of recent industry developments we've been getting questions about. One is the Sinceera acquisition. And then secondly, Amazon had some, I think, some new page-level reporting. So we've been getting questions about that.

Are you seeing any movement of the DSPs to be vertically integrated some part of verification? And what are you seeing there? Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure. I'll take both questions. Sinceera, so Sinceera has been a really important strategic partner for the company, powering several portions of several of our products, and we'll continue in the first half to be a partner of ours.

In the Amazon question, related to is it the level reporting? Are you referring to the URL transparency reporting?.

Robert Coolbrith

Yes. That's the one. Yep..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. So with URL transparency, we actually have offered URL transparency since 2021. This is a capability that we've offered our customer base for several years. It's an area we'll continue to stay close to and innovate in..

Robert Coolbrith

Thank you so much..

Operator

Our next question comes from Justin Patterson with KeyBanc..

Justin Patterson

Great. Thank you. Lisa, could you talk about how you're thinking about the pipeline for new business? This year versus prior years as you've introduced more products across the market, deepen these social capabilities. It seems like there might be an opportunity to just engage customers that you might not have been able to reach previously. Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Sure. Just thank you for the question. So I would say that question is tied to the three goals I spoke to before around performance, expanding reach, and innovation, it's in the expansion of reach. So when you take a look at the robust, TAM, for the industry, there are a couple of levers that we're going hard at.

The first is our enterprise customers. Those are the top 100 advertisers.

That's all about cross-sell, upsell, launch innovative products, launch adoption, but more importantly, to continue the engagement with those top brands, is launching new channels, new platforms so that we're expanding the volumes of inventory that the largest customers can adopt the products.

Second, really important channel for Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. that we are investing heavily this year is mid-market. There is tons of green space in mid-market. Both in the US and internationally. We define the market as customers who are spending between $200k and a million with us, with Mark on board as COO.

We are investing both in the front end in investing in more sellers, more support, more technical support, and on the back end, performance really matters to the mid-market advertisers. So pouring fuel on our performance products, investing in automation and self-serve. So I would say it's those two drivers for the pipeline.

Enterprise is more of an expansion play. Mid-market, tons of new business. And then the third area that's important to note that I called out in the script is expansion into emerging markets and new markets. China being the most recent where we launched in December. And we're currently in alpha both in a chat with a China in strategy and a China out..

Justin Patterson

Great. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from James Heaney with Jefferies..

James Heaney

Great. Thanks for taking the question. How are you thinking about hiring, in 2025? I think we heard from Trade Desk about the desire to double the number of senior people within the organization. So we'd just be curious how you think philosophically about balancing profitability with the headcount needs to continue growing the business. Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Thank you for the question, James. So there are a couple of areas that we are focused on when it comes to hiring in 2025. And, again, these are the areas that drive accelerated growth for the company. Drive the greatest value for our customer base, and set us up for long-term profitable growth. So the first area is R&D. R&D and data science.

Science is in the name of our company. We have differentiated tech and we will continue to invest in class engineers and data science to focus in particular on all things related to performance, classification, and leveraging AI. The second bucket of hiring is in sales. And go to market in particular performance, programmatic, and mid-market.

So I would say those are the two areas. And then again, where we see opportunity to expand in new emerging markets, and it makes sense to put boots on the ground, we'll continue to invest in emerging markets..

James Heaney

Great. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Marok with Raymond James..

Andrew Marok

Thank you for taking my question. We heard from your main competitor about a major CPG cuts going through some idiosyncratic issues and I've heard some shakiness in CPG and some other reports. Although, one of your answers to your previous questions seemed to indicate that CPG was doing pretty well for you.

I guess from your seat, how's your view on the health of the ad market and what's baked into your Q1 or full-year assumptions around economic health and impacts of things like tariffs, etcetera? Thank you..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Andrew. Thank you for the question. So we are confident in the guide that we put out for Q1 and 2025. As you noted, in heading from Q3 into the fourth quarter, we start to see strength both in CPG, retail, financial services. Our vertical profile is fairly consistent and predictable.

And also, when you take a look at the stickiness of our business, our top 100 advertisers have been with Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. for over eight years, and so we're very leaned in to ensuring that we're driving value for those top accounts. We're keeping them in what I call the Integral Ad Science Holding Corp.

boat, and we continue to bring new advertisers and publishers on board. And one more note about macro. One more note that's important. And I know I keep hitting the playing the performance drum.

But performance efficiency, ROI, and ensuring that we are driving the value we are helping the brands drive better outcomes with the investments that we make in our solutions. We take the black box out of programmatic buying so they truly could lead to keeping them away from media wastage and drive higher ROI.

It is just so critical that we continue to invest in this area because the brands are so laser-focused on ensuring that every dollar they invest in digital advertising, they see a higher return..

Andrew Marok

Great. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Omar Dessouky with Bank of America..

Omar Dessouky

Hi. Thanks for taking my question here. Lisa, I wanted to play the devil's advocate for a minute here and ask more of a strategic competitive question. Given that the markets that you play in seem to be a two-horse race, you and DoubleVerify.

And activation customers, you know, generally, are also measurement customers, and you have to have one in order to have the other.

Why does it make sense to be first to market with activation solutions rather than be a fast follower? You know, and wait until, you know, the competition takes the risk of those products in the market, you know, and makes the investment. You know, to put those products in the market.

You know, it would seem that there would be some kind of potential to, you know, perhaps, be more efficient, optimize, or, you know, scale back investment without losing market share. So, again, just playing the devil's advocate here. Wanted to see how you think about that..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. Thank you for the question, Omar. So on that one, what's interesting about that question is we are a culture of test and learn. We're a culture of planting seeds early, patiently testing and learning with our clients, invest in the product, ensure there's a customer feedback loop so we can improve the product over time, and then launch it to GA.

So, for example, my remarks before around activation our total visibility product, we've had that product in the market for several years. Did we have a big unveiling several years ago? No. It came off of the Immuno payments acquisition, that we actually made that acquisition before going public in 2021.

And we quietly just built that activation engine over time did a lot of tests and learns, and last year is when we really started to see rapid adoption of the product. And that's how we'll operate moving forward. So we'll continue to invest in performance and activation. We build products and prioritize our product and tech roadmaps.

Based on the feedback from our customers, and we're hearing loud and clear from our customers right now they want Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. to play both in ensuring protecting brand equity and brand reputation, and in performance, and we're doing both..

Omar Dessouky

So if I just interpret what you said, I mean, are you saying that there's potentially a risk of market share loss if you're not first to market? That's really the question I'm asking.

Like, how important is it to be first to market?.

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think it entirely depends on the product. And it depends on the opportunity. Integral Ad Science Holding Corp., historically, we've also had plenty of first to market. Meta being the most recent example the largest social platform selecting us.

Because of our sophisticated technology, of course, we're going to take advantage of that and launch a first to market product. But if there are other areas where it makes more sense to test and learn until we have a viable product in place, and we need to do both..

Omar Dessouky

Set. Thank you very much..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Kreyer with Craig Hallum..

Jason Kreyer

Great. Thank you. Just want to double click on the ramp in publisher growth that you've seen over the last couple of quarters.

Can you just highlight what Publica products are resonating that are driving that resurgence there?.

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. Thank you for the question, Jason. So with Publisher, again, we were pleased to see our 30% growth in the fourth quarter. And there are a couple of areas with Publica where we're seeing a nice uptick. And keep in mind, publishers both Publica and offering our Integral Ad Science Holding Corp. solutions.

But with Publica in particular and this is coming off the heels of you might remember we hired Cam Milley last June from FreeWheel who was our new Publica CRO. He has brought fresh perspective, really interesting innovative ideas, and is bringing the closer to the product team.

And in particular, we're seeing scaled adoption of Publica's new product features that are built to increase bidding competition in the ad auctions. And we're seeing nice adoption. We're continuing to invest in Publica, which is a leading differentiated CTV platform.

And when we're ready to share more about Publica's product portfolio will do just that..

Jason Kreyer

Thank you. Thank you..

Operator

This question comes from the line of Rob Sanderson with Loop Capital..

Rob Sanderson

Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, everybody. I wanted to ask a little bit more about your plans to expand into China. It can be a tricky market to penetrate. What can you say about your go-to-market strategy? You mentioned in the script you know, the size of the domestic market, but you also mentioned, you know, cross-border.

Are you sort of going after the domestic China opportunity cross-border sellers, or both? And then in terms of strategic priority, Lisa, and you kind of listed emerging markets as, like, a point three in terms of you know, growth initiatives.

Is that sort of the right framing of the strategic priority around China? Is it sort of know, we'll put plant some seeds, see how they develop and maybe lean in more if it looks more promising or how should we think about your expansion into China?.

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure. Thank you for the question. So on China, the way to think about exactly what you just said, planting seeds. Test and learn, we have the opportunity to be first in market in China. We announced it publicly in December of 2024. Partnership with RTB Asia.

The way to think about our opportunity in China and we've been hearing loudly for some major global brands when are you going into China? But there are two sides to the China strategy. There's China in and China out. China out is offering our verification solutions outside of China.

For Chinese advertisers who are advertising to consumers outside of China. China in is for global brands, major global 500 brands where China is a really important market for them and they're advertising in China and they want to leverage our verification solutions.

Two verticals in particular, that have been loud and clear about asking into China have been CPG and luxury. And as I mentioned before, we're currently running an alpha in China. The way I view China, it is a long game. A long play.

But, again, it's in the spirit of our test and culture, planting the seeds early, having you know, doing seeing the product adoption, getting that adoption wheel, flying, and then, you know, launching a viable product over time in GA..

Rob Sanderson

In that context, Lisa, is there a third sort of opportunity? Like, you're saying China in and China out, but what about you know, China to China? Is that something that is not on the plan for now? Is that something that may be in the future, or is that am I kind of not thinking about that in the framework you're trying to articulate?.

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yeah. The way we view China in particular is crawl, walk, run. And the areas we're focused on right now with our in and China out strategy that I spoke to before, those seem like the right seeds to plant. The right areas to focus on, especially with the big marketers. We've had several who have proactively raised their hands and say, yes.

We would love to test with you in China. So we're just focused on those two areas right now. As we continue to focus on our entire plan for 2025, and make sure that we hit our deliverables across our products in the roadmap..

Rob Sanderson

Thank you..

Operator

That concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Lisa Utzschneider for closing remarks..

Lisa Utzschneider Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you everyone for joining today's call. We were pleased to deliver positive results for the fourth quarter. Our 2025 financial outlook calls for double-digit revenue growth and strong profitability driven by our industry-leading technology and product innovation. I'd like to thank the entire Integral Ad Science Holding Corp.

team for their hard work and dedication. We'll be at two investor conferences in San Francisco next week and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day and a great weekend..

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..

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