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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2016 - Q3
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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Check Point Software Technologies' Third Quarter 2016 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Kip E. Meintzer, Head of Global Investor Relations for Check Point Software Technologies. Mr. Meintzer, you may begin..

Kip E. Meintzer Head of Global Investor Relations

Thanks, Kevin. Hello, everyone. I would like to thank all of you for joining us today to discuss Check Point's 2016 third quarter financial results. Joining me today on the call are Gil Shwed, Founder and CEO, along with our CFO and COO, Tal Payne. As a reminder, this call is webcast live on our website and is recorded for replay.

To access the live webcast and replay information, please visit the Company's website at Checkpoint.com. For your convenience, the conference call replay will be available through November 6. If you'd like to reach us after the call, please contact Investor Relations by email at kip@checkpoint.com or by phone at +1-650-628-2040.

Before we begin with Management's presentation, I would like to highlight the following. During the course of this presentation, Check Point's representatives may make certain forward-looking statements.

These forward looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, include but are not limited to statements related to Check Point's expectations regarding business, financial performance, and customers; the introduction of new products, programs, and the success of those products and programs; the environment for security threats; demand for our solutions; and our business and financial outlook, including our guidance for Q4 2016.

Because these statements pertain to future events, they are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from Check Point's current expectations and beliefs.

Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences are contained in Check Point's earnings release issued on October 31, 2016, which is available on our website, and other factors and risks, including those discussed in Check Point's Annual Report on Form 20-F for the year ended December 31, 2015, which is on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Check Point assumes no obligation to update information concerning its expectations or beliefs, except as required by law. In our press release, which has been posted on a website, we present GAAP and non-GAAP results, along with a reconciliation of such results, as well as the reasons for our presentation of non-GAAP information.

Now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Tal Payne for a review of the financial results..

Tal Payne

49% of the revenues came from the Americas; 35% of revenues came from Europe; the remaining 16% came from Asia-Pacific, Japan, Middle East, and Africa regions. From a deal size perspective, the number of customers with transactions over $1 million increased by 30% to 65 customers this quarter compared to 50 in the same period last year.

Transactions greater than $60,000 were 73% of total order value, compared to 70% in the third quarter of 2015. GAAP net income for the third quarter of 2016 was $170 million, or $0.99 per diluted share, an increase of 7% from the third quarter of 2015.

Non-GAAP net income for the quarter was $194 million, or $1.13 per diluted share, up from $188 million, or $1.04 per diluted share, in the same period last year. Non-GAAP earnings per share grew by 9%, and exceeded the top end of our guidance by $0.03. Our cash balances reached $3.708 billion at the end of the quarter.

Our cash from operations for the quarter was strong at $214 million. Net of fluctuations relating to tax payments over the year, our cash from operations from the third quarter increased in 3% over the same period in 2015, similar to the growth in the operating income.

Our financial income was $12 million, including $2 million gain from exercise of investments. In the next quarter, our financial income is expected to be back at normal levels, around $10 million. We continued to implement our share buyback program during the quarter and repurchased approximately 3.2 million shares for a total cost of $247 million.

Now let's hand the call over to Gil for his comments on the third quarter..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

next-generation firewall; breach detection, which checked our SandBlast technology; and this time, the next-generation intrusion prevention system test. These results are great testimonial for our leadership of our security technology for both security effectiveness and total cost of ownership.

So to summarize, I am very pleased with our results this quarter. The pace of business has improved, our technology leadership is driving adoption, and we've started to see some of the results of the investment we made in sales in the past year. Now that brings me to the financial projections for the fourth quarter.

Revenues are expected to be between $460 million to $490 million. Non-GAAP earnings per share are expected to be between $1.20 to $1.28 per share. GAAP EPS is expected to be approximately $0.15. With that, I would like to thank you once again for joining us on the call today, and open the call for your insightful questions..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Gregg Moskowitz from Cowen and Company. Please proceed with your question..

Gregg Moskowitz

Thank you very much, and good afternoon, guys.

First question, Gil, you mentioned the rise in mobile attacks, which is very interesting, but I’m also wondering, within network security, has there been any change or recent change in the security demand environment from what you are observing?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Not much. I’m actually seeing a pretty healthy environment in the demand for our solutions and in the market, in general. So from my perspective, all is good and there’s a lot of opportunity and a lot of challenges in front of us..

Gregg Moskowitz

one, a growing impact of higher deferrals on your new appliance family; and then also just a product deceleration that we have seen from some of your peers. But if you look at your results, you’ve managed to grow product revenue slightly this quarter on a year-over-year basis.

Can you talk about why you think you were able to grow product this quarter, as well as whether you think this can continue?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

First, as I said, I’m pretty optimistic. Again, I think there’s, of course many challenges, and we remain in a very competitive environment, but we had some good business trends this quarter. I think our new appliance line, are clearly gaining share and are getting very good acceptance.

We had nice growth in both units and dollar in them, a quite significant one, so I think we are becoming more competitive and showing great advantages of our product. By the way, even the NSS report shows that, giving us the lowest total cost of ownership.

That’s a great number, and again, when you compare $8 per megabit per second to $27 at some of our competitors, which is quite significant difference in price performance, and remember, this is price performance, not absolute price. We are also gaining new customers.

This quarter we had a very nice increase in business from new customers and a nice increase in number of new customers, so I think we are starting to execute well. As you know, in the last year and half, we’ve made a lot of investments in our sales organization.

I don’t want to conclude from one quarter, but at least this quarter, we have seen some good signs to the success of that investment..

Gregg Moskowitz

Terrific. If I could just ask one last question for Tal, your Blades subscription revenue grew 24% year over year. That was the most growth we’ve seen since Q1 of 2014. What’s driving the acceleration? Is it mostly SandBlast with the pretty phenomenal 200%-plus growth or are there other factors as well? Thank you..

Tal Payne

There’s two factors. One is the SandBlast, which is the package that we call Next-Generation Threat Extraction. That’s included in this line. And the second is some of the revenues are starting to be recognized from the Next-Generation Threat Prevention package that is bundled into the appliances. So it’s both..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Jonathan Ho from William Blair. Please proceed with your question..

Jonathan Ho

Congratulations on the strong results. Just wanted to start out with a little bit more color on the SandBlast side.

Why is it that you guys think that it picked up as much as it did this quarter and what’s sort of driving that adoption?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

SandBlast, first, it is the best technology. The only technology that actually blocks the attacks before they enter into the organization.

There’s also a lot of differentiators, not just -- of course, the result of, not small, but very technical things that are different in the product, but also there are a lot of very big differences compared to other technologies.

For example, we have the Threat Extraction that actually takes every file, and within, almost instantly, removes the potential damage in content. So that’s something that nobody else has. And I can give you many, many examples due to the superiority the technology.

I think our sales force have also been focused a little bit more on highlighting this technology to customers, and customers are picking up on it. So I think these are the main factors. I think it is already happening for several quarters.

This one is not a change that happened this quarter, but I think with the pace of impact and the significance of that is becoming now real and I hope that it will continue in this pace..

Jonathan Ho

Got it.

And then, just in terms of the shift to more cloud-based architectures and virtual firewalls, can you talk about what you are seeing there, especially with the use of public cloud?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

First, we are seeing a nice level of interest. We already got a very nice number of customers adopting these kinds of technologies. It is still very early. People are talking about it, people are interested in that. Today, I see more business coming from private clouds than from public clouds.

And I think with the unique thing that we offer to the marketplace is a single architecture that controls both the traditional network and the cloud. Our vSEC solution is very unique in its ability to support both the Amazon environment, the Microsoft Azure environment, on the public side; the VMware and the Cisco environment, on the private side.

This is a very unique capability that we have. We are also providing a lot of security services from the cloud. And I think that’s another trend that we are seeing. And again, this trend is also working very well for us..

Jonathan Ho

Great, thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Shaul Eyal from Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question..

Shaul Eyal

Thank you. Hi, good morning, guys. Congratulations on solid results and guide. Two quick questions, here. So last quarter, I believe the refreshed line of appliances accounted for 50%. I think this quarter, Tal indicated 70%.

In that context and in the content of your high-end appliances, the 15000, the 23000, can you talk to us about some of the trends that those high-end appliances specifically have been seeing throughout the quarter?.

Tal Payne

Just to clarify, I said over 50%, and over 70%, so it’s not 70%, it’s more, so that’s one thing. Second, if you recall, the high end was launched in Q1, and the rest of the family was launched in Q2. So naturally, in Q2, a lot of the growth came from the high end because that was the only family that was replaced. In Q2, it just started on the whole.

This quarter was very interesting because we saw both the small and mid-size, and also the core appliances, moving up. High end grew nicely, but the main growth this quarter actually came from the mid and lower, so that was very nice to see..

Shaul Eyal

Fair enough. Now, Gil, you flagged the strong performance in the U.S. this quarter.

Is that just driven by prior investments, new hiring, some change in competitive trend? What’s driving that this quarter?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I don’t know. Probably all of these apply to some extent. We got a lot of new hires, especially in the past. We've got some new leadership in recent months. But a lot of it is the investment which we've done over a year and a half and I'd like to think that we are also winning on some of the competitors..

Unidentified Analyst

Fair enough. Thank you very much..

Operator

Thank you. Your next question today is coming from Walter Pritchard from Citi. Please proceed with your question..

Walter Pritchard

Hi thanks. Hi, thanks. One thing on the maintenance revenue, the support revenue, it looks like it declined sequentially. I know overall the total revenue was better. Could you talk a bit about what drove that trend? I think we haven't seen that happen for quite a while..

Tal Payne

Actually, it was quite expected. We talked in length about it in the Q before, and actually, two quarters in a row, where we said we see two trends. On the one hand, we see strong product growth that has being shifting into subscription as a result of the bundle. The second thing we said we see, we saw increase of discount rates year-over-year.

Actually, this quarter, we saw stabilization, so there was no longer a continued increase. It stabilized on the same levels of the previous quarter, which was good to see, but obviously it takes time to translate this decrease into the P&L, so you see it only two, three quarters after.

So you started to see some of these effect in Q2 and in Q3, and you see some of it in Q4, as well..

Walter Pritchard

Great. And then just on the transition impact. You did give us, I think, the $9 million to $11 million in gross impact for the Q3.

Any update on what impact you expect to see on a gross or net basis to product revenue as a result of the deferrals that continue to happen here in Q4?.

Tal Payne

So I gave the numbers last quarter, last quarter I said between $8 million to $10 million in Q3 and it came out slightly below that, but very similar, and in Q4 we expect something similar, as well, just times 2. So it means, we said between $16 million to $20 million. It might be $14 million to $18 million, but it's basically in the same range..

Walter Pritchard

And then last one here, your in dust a ton of postures [ph] for investment. You've talked at times about maybe accelerating sales investments and so forth.

Can you talk to us about how you are thinking about that into 2017?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We haven’t really formed our plan for 2017. So I think, it's a little bit too early to discuss that..

Tal Payne

Yes I think we remember, Q4 is very material before we make the plans for 2017, so we need to wait till Q4 and then give the guidance for 2017..

Walter Pritchard

Great thanks for taking the questions..

Operator

Thank you. Your next question today is coming from John DiFucci from Jefferies. Please proceed with your question..

John DiFucci

Thank you. Tal, I have a follow-up to Walter's first question on the maintenance, and thank you for that, and you did mention that you discounted similar to last quarter.

But how should we think about that dynamic going forward? Should we just assume that this is going to be a consistent just so we get our models great, because we had modeled maintenance? That was the only line. Everything looked really good this quarter. That was the one line we were a little bit – we didn't model it greater than what you had..

Tal Payne

Yes I think when you look at that, we see – year-over-year, we saw the increase so the step-down happened and now we see stabilization. So probably you will see it for the next two quarters when you look at the P&L and in the revenues, and then hopefully it will stabilize there. It looks like it's stabilized for now.

If you remember the main reasons, then remember what the currencies did around the world. It's very clear that currencies, when they are moving 20%, 30 is some countries, then it affects the budget of customers.

The focus of our team, from last year, we talked about it again in length, the focus is to sell new products, new customers, and new technologies. That has been very successful. Some of it is probably is a result of that focus, is some increase in the discount on the updated maintenance. But all in all, I hope it stabilized.

It looks like it did and you will see it in the P&L in another quarter or two, and then hopefully, it will stay in those levels..

John DiFucci

Just to be clear, the primary reason for the discounting is currency, it’s not competitive issues?.

Tal Payne

I think it’s three reasons. It’s very hard to differentiate which one it is. I think currencies is the main one in the countries that had a big effect, like you think about UK, Russia, Brazil, Mexico. There’s many countries that – and remember we are a very global company.

So we have a lot of income coming from the international and not dominant in the U.S. for customers’ budgets, right? So that’s one major factor. Competition can be another factor, but mainly the focus of the team on new customers, new product, which has been very successful..

John DiFucci

Okay, great. If I could, just a follow-up for Gil. Gil, you mentioned that demand is good, but you also mentioned there were challenges, and everybody has them a couple of times.

You did have a competitor put up a difficult quarter this quarter, and you mentioned that demand for network security is good, but what about the macro environment? Have you seen any changes in either the macro environment or the competitive environment?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

In large scale, I haven’t seen big changes. In some countries, yes. There is countries that as, like Tal mentioned, currency fluctuation. Take Russia, for example. Their currency is 20% weaker this year, so that has some impact on their buying power. By the way, coincidentally, with that can impact the discount rate and so on.

There are many, many examples like that because we do have a pretty big world around. At the macro level, I can’t say that there is a slowdown in the marketplace. We haven’t seen it. Again, it may happen, but we haven’t seen any effect yet..

John DiFucci

Any change in the competitive environment? I know it’s competitive, but any changes this past quarter?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

No, it remains a competitive environment. We focus on our own execution and that’s the most important. We have a lot to offer..

John DiFucci

Great. Thank you very much..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Tal Liani from Bank of America Merrill. Please proceed with your question..

Mike Feldman

Hi, guys. Thank you. This is Mike Feldman on for Tal Liani. Would you be able to give us some color on the service provider verticals? Some of your competitors had seen some softness there and elongated cycles. Have you seen any changes to the competitive position in that vertical? And then, R&D has picked up quite a bit over the last year.

What’s driving the increase and how should we think about the level of spending there going forward? Thanks..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Service provider, we haven’t seen big changes. There are a few large opportunities and large deals that we are seeing, but they didn’t have yet any impact on our results so it didn’t impact that yet. In terms of spending, Tal, I don’t know if you can….

Tal Payne

Yes, R&D is mainly – the R&D people, the majority of them are located in Israel, so you can have some influence of the currencies. But, in general, if you recall, last year, we talked about an increase in headcount mainly in sales, marketing, and R&D.

R&D is typically the large increase and headcount comes in Q3 and Q4, because that’s when the students come out of the university. So, year over year, that’s when you see the full effect of the growth, but nothing dramatic. Everything is pretty much in line..

Mike Feldman

Thank you. Actually, one more. You mentioned last quarter that SandBlast was about $10 million run rate for the quarter. Would you be able to give us an update there? Thanks..

Tal Payne

I don’t think we said $10 million..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Much higher..

Tal Payne

Much higher. We are talking this quarter much higher, yes, but we don’t provide the numbers, but I can tell you – the main message was that we are not talking about $1 million or $2 million or $3 million and then to say triple growth or 200%, over 200%. It might be impressive in percentage but not in dollars.

Actually, we’re talking now about quite a large business. We didn’t provide the number, but we’re not talking about $10 million and not $15 million. It’s already more, so it’s very nice revenue, a very nice business, and it is growing very nicely. So we feel like we have a winning technology here and customers are adopting it quickly..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Overall, if you look at all our advanced security technologies that are represented by our Software Blades and by our subscription revenue line, this is this quarter almost $100 million, which shows a run rate of almost $400 million annually. Think about it, the business that didn’t exist four or five years ago.

It’s a pretty significant business today. Purely the subscription part, not including the hardware, which is separate, not including the platform, which is again separate of that. It’s a business worth about $400 million on an annual basis. It’s quite significant in our industry..

Kip E. Meintzer Head of Global Investor Relations

Next caller, please? Next question..

Operator

Certainly. Our next question is coming from Andrew Nowinksi from Piper Jaffray. Please proceed with your question..

Andrew Nowinksi

Thanks. Congrats on the nice quarter.

I just want to ask one question on did you see any change in your new customer growth this quarter, perhaps driven by the adoptions from your new appliances and your SandBlast products?.

Tal Payne

We don’t provide new customers, but Gil alluded to that we see a very nice increase also in that area, but we don’t provide detailed numbers..

Andrew Nowinksi

Okay. Fair enough. And then, on the sales and marketing expense, the growth continues to moderate. It even declined sequentially this quarter. You had many channel partners that we talk to consistently say you need to spend more aggressively on marketing like some of your peers.

What is your view on increasing the marketing spend at the same time that you are increasing discounting on maintenance contracts?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

First I agree, I do agree that we need to be more effective and do more in marketing. Q3, specifically, it’s the weakest quarter for marketing because everyone is on vacation and because all our big marketing events are around Q2. So seasonally, that’s the weakest quarter..

Tal Payne

But we are very open to it and we actually increased it nicely in the last year. You can see sales and marketing together, that’s increased quite significantly. Remember that Q3 is the lowest one because Q2 is the highest one..

Andrew Nowinksi

Okay. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Michael Turits from Raymond James. Please proceed with your questions..

Michael Turits

Hey, guys. Thanks. Two questions.

One, have there been any changes in the sales management structure, especially in North America? What are they and how have their impact been? And another SandBlast question, how have renewals been on SandBlast?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

In terms of sales management, we are making some changes. Overall, by the way, our sales management in the U.S. is quite stable at most levels, but we do have a new head of worldwide sales, which is now handling North America, too. That can have and did have an impact.

What was the second part?.

Tal Payne

Yes, the renewal rates….

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

The renewal rates for SandBlast..

Tal Payne

It’s very similar to the other, Blade. We see very nice renewal rates. We don’t provide it, but if you remember the historical that we talked about, 35% for bundled and it started with 65% and moved up to 70% renewal on the unbundled, it’s actually moving up, so it’s nice to see that, as well..

Michael Turits

Great.

Last, any more detail on the head of worldwide sales? Who was he or she and where did they come in from and what changes that you anticipate?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We want to put more emphasis on sales. That is very important. We want to have more people that can meet with customers, especially at the top level. We want to create more sales discipline that will add more value. Our new head of worldwide sales, his name is Pierre-Paul Allard.

He is with us for now three months I think, so he’s now getting from the learning phase to the implementation phase. His latest job was President for the enterprise business for Avaya, if I remember correctly the title..

Michael Turits

Okay. Thanks a lot..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Ken Talanian from Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question..

Ken Talanian

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another question on Software Blades. You saw good growth in the quarter.

I was wondering if you could give us a sense of the breakdown of Software Blades revenue related to new appliance sales versus selling into your existing installed base?.

Tal Payne

Majority is always to the existing installed base, right? Because it can be new Blades or new packages, but majority of the sales by far has always been – we have a huge installed base, so it’s to the existing installed base.

When you talk about the Software Blades, in general, then I can say majority is the unbundled and maybe that’s what you are relating to. Majority of it is not attached to the appliance, and actually been purchased or renewed by the customer on an annual basis. A smaller portion is coming from the bundle that is part of the appliance..

Ken Talanian

And can you give us a sense for how much the unbundled has increased in this quarter relative to the past couple quarters?.

Tal Payne

We don’t provide, but I can tell you much more than you see in the P&L..

Ken Talanian

Okay. Great. Thank you very much..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Sterling Auty from JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question..

Sterling Auty

Yes, thanks. Hi, guys. Gil, you mentioned in one of the earlier responses that you saw a pick-up in new customers.

One, is there any way to quantify the improvement that you are seeing, maybe by sharing with us how much revenue is coming from new customers versus existing, this quarter versus either last quarter or a year ago?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think first, I acknowledge, we had some nice changes, and nice growth in new customers in both revenues and number of customers. We decided not to share this data. I don’t think it is the right thing to share it. It’s not the best business thing for us. In terms of whether it should continue or not, it can fluctuate.

But we are putting a lot of emphasis on winning new customers. And this quarter, I can definitely say – not just this quarter, this year, it was actually quite successful effort and we are definitely seeing that it’s going in the right direction..

Sterling Auty

And then, one follow-up question. You mentioned starting to see the payoff on the sales investments.

Can you give us a sense of which geography you are seeing the biggest impact of those investments and where are you seeing the impact? Is it in lead generation? Is it in helping getting deals closed? Is it in deal size? Or something else?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think first, it’s all of those. We have seen a slight increase in deal size. And I think Tal gave some statistics about that, but even the statistics that we haven’t shared, they all point to a slightly higher deal size. We are seeing more new customers and more deals from existing customers, so I think it’s all in the right direction.

In terms of geography, I’ve already said some of the changes that we’ve seen. Europe has been providing healthy growth year-to-date since the beginning of the year. In the U.S., we have seen a very nice increase in the biggest results this quarter.

In Asia-Pacific, we have seen the highest momentum of sales growth this quarter, and actually a few quarters before, too. So we are seeing it generally across most regions..

Tal Payne

I think maybe just to clarify, the reason it’s a bit hard for you to see it is because there’s the two effects that are reducing the numbers in the P&L. One is the move from product into subscription, so that’s quite a large number that has been taken off the revenues every quarter, and we talked about it last quarter and this quarter.

The second is the discount in the update and maintenance, which decelerated the growth there and ate some of the growth..

Sterling Auty

Got it, thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Karl Keirstead from Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question..

Karl Keirstead

Hi, thank you. A question for Tal. I want to understand the mechanics of moving $30 million, $40 million a year of product revs to deferred revenues. First, it seems that you should see an uptick in short-term deferred revenues as that happens, and in fact, in this third quarter, short-term DR did accelerate from the prior couple of quarters.

So I just want to confirm that the reason it did is exactly this kind of move.

And then, secondly, could you just talk through what the impact on operating cash flow should be? I noticed through the first nine months of the year that operating cash flow was up about 5%, so that's running a little bit short of your roughly 10% non-GAAP EPS and I want to see if this phenomenon is impacting that at all. Thank you..

Tal Payne

Okay. I forgot the first part of the question.

The second part regarding the cash flow, it shouldn't have really an effect on the cash flow because the revenue recognition, just moving from product revenue recognition into subscription over time, doesn't change the cash flow because we collect the entire amount of the appliance booking as part of the regular cash flow, so that's not part of the effect.

You're referring to the growth in the EPS of 9%. You are right. The operating cash flow is slower. The reason is that part of the EPS growth is the buyback, and the buyback is actually part of the – not part of the operating cash flow. That's why.

So if you look at the net income, it's pretty much in line with the net income, or the operating income, so that's the cash flow question.

The first part of the question, can you repeat it again?.

Karl Keirstead

Yes. First part of the question was, we did see a slight acceleration in the growth of short-term deferred revenues.

Is the reason we saw that because of this impact you're talking about?.

Tal Payne

Yes. You're absolutely right. As a result of the fact that some of the appliance booking revenues have been deferred, they're going into the deferred revenue, so it's part of it. You are right. Typically, Q3, deferred revenues are going down and this quarter it was $0, so it means it didn't go down, which is higher than what you expect.

The reason is that it gets some of the deferred into it..

Karl Keirstead

Okay. Thank you, Tal. That's helpful..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Matt Hedberg from RBC Capital Market. Please proceed with your question..

Matt Hedberg

Thanks for taking my questions, guys. Gil, from a high level, you talked about a good spending environment for security.

Are you seeing more customers want to consolidate spending, given your focus on Blades? Could you even see an acceleration in some of that consolidation versus past years?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. We do see customers that wants to consolidate. For the large customers, it is not always as easy as what we want because they do have different people in different departments that are in charge of different domains, but in terms of the general market trend, yes, the market will need to consolidate more.

People will need to get solutions that provide broader architecture and single management and we have exactly that strength in our product and in our strategy..

Matt Hedberg

That's great. Then maybe one follow-up. With $3.7 billion in cash, I believe that's your balance, how do you think about investing additional capital into the endpoint market, which still seems to be a fairly wide open market in terms of opportunity? Thank you..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

First, we keep looking for opportunities for expansion and acquisition and so on. I don't know that playing in the traditional market of endpoint is currently on my top priority for consolidation for spending, but being involved in some of the more advanced mobility and advanced endpoint technology is clearly something that we are doing..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jayson Noland from Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question..

Jayson Noland

Okay. Great, thank you. I wanted to follow up on public cloud. You mentioned some traction there.

What types of customers? Where are you seeing adoption? Is it SMB driven? And then are there any trends by geography?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think in terms of the public cloud, we are seeing all types of customers. Not actually, not the small customers. It's more the larger, more traditional customers that we have that want to leverage their architecture into the cloud. Geographies, I don't have much. I think it's mainly Europe and the U.S., but I don't have a good handle of that..

Jayson Noland

And then a follow-up. It looks like Europe was roughly flat year on year. You saw more strength in the Americas and Asia.

Is that a currency dynamic or was some of that UK driven?.

Tal Payne

You'll remember in Q1 and in Q2, they had really, really high results, so when you look year to date, they actually had pretty good results this year. Probably some effect of the currencies, UK and Russia, which slowed their growth in Q3..

Jayson Noland

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Brent Thill from UBS. Please proceed with your question..

Fatima Boolani

Good morning, Tal and Gil. Thanks for taking the questions. This is Fatima on for Brent. Tal, a question for you on the deferred revenue. As your Blades revenue approaches about one-quarter of the business, can you help us appreciate the composition of deferred revenue split between.

Blade-related revenues and pure maintenance? Then I have a follow-up for Gil, if I may?.

Tal Payne

Yes. We actually don't provide a breakdown. Actually, in the annual report, you will be able to see it, so you will have to wait another quarter. But the trends are clear. We see the portion of the subscription is moving up in strong double digits. Related to it, you see in the P&L, 24%. In the deferred is higher because the growth rate is faster there.

When you look at the update and maintenance, it actually suffers from the increase in the discount and therefore, there, you don't see growth, in general..

Fatima Boolani

Just another quick one on deferred. Any potential FX impact that you could quantify on deferred revenues? I know you price in dollars..

Tal Payne

If I'll give it, then it would look like our results are way too good, right? Because obviously we suffer more than anyone else in the market because we're global. That's our advantage as well. So when you see currency effects like the UK and Russia and Brazil and Mexico, and last year, you had Colombia and the EU.

If you take that into account, because it also takes time for customers to adjust, it's probably tens of million a quarter, but we more – we put a focus on ourself to execute all the time more and to find ways to cover for that.

You see we did it pretty well this year, with the subscription, with the product refresh, but the effect on an Excel file, I will say, it's probably tens of millions negative effect..

Fatima Boolani

That's helpful. Now, Gil, a quick one for you. You've talked for several quarters now the importance of mobility.

Can you remind us very quickly how you are currently going to market for that suite of products? What do you think the biggest gating factor really is for adoption? This is really in the context of the large DDoS attack from last week, where it seems like the culprit was infected devices.

So would just love your thoughts on why this isn't a top-of-mind spending item for most organizations? That's it for me. Thank you..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

First, I don't have a good answer why people are not putting securing their mobile devices as a top priority. I definitely think it is a top priority. We have seen last quarter that the number of attacks on mobile devices and by mobile devices is becoming quite significant.

It's not – three years ago, two years ago, you could have talked about the fact that there's a possibility, but we haven't really seen much attacks. Today it's a significant portion of the attacks. Our research showed a lot of malware families that are attacking specifically mobile phone from all the major vendors, so clearly that's a real issue.

I think we are seeing a nice traction. We had very nice growth with that, but we have seen hundreds of customers every quarter that start to use that technology and the go-to market – you asked about the go-to-market – it's very similar to our existing go-to market.

We talk to large enterprises, and through them, we try to go to older users using the enterprise tools that the Company has. I don't have a good explanation why the companies are not aware and it presents a very nice opportunity moving forward..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Gabriela Borges from Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question..

Gabriela Borges

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just on the sustainability of the demand environment. As your sales people build out their pipelines and talk to customers about the go-forward, is there any color that you can share with us on how customers are thinking about 2017 budgets and their willingness or lack of willingness to invest? Thanks..

Tal Payne

Okay. I think 2017 again, it is a bit far. I think we saw a great Q3. We need to see the trends in Q4 and then conclude on 2017. In general, we see healthy spending, but Q3, remember, it is quite a small quarter. It's not the size of Q4, so I think we need to follow up and to see how it's going.

I think in some countries that you see more pressures mainly coming from currencies. We discussed it. We saw great, among, in general, like Middle East and Africa and Asia, and we saw great U.S. this quarter, and we need to follow up in Q4. We don't see a trend that shows cutting of budgets.

Sometimes you see shifting, right? We see much more investment in Advanced Threat and in the Zero-Day Attack. We see it our new technologies. That's why the place you actually see the main growth is in the subscription line.

That's what we said, expect to see the subscription going up and the rest slowing down because the market is moving to the consolidation, to the adoption of the new Software Blades or the new technologies and it's working very well for us..

Operator

Thank you. Our final question today is coming from Erik Suppiger from JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question..

Erik Suppiger

Thank you very much. Congrats on a good quarter.

One, can you just confirm, in light of one of your peers that did cite extended sales cycles, are you now seeing any extension in the sales cycle? Then secondly, can you just comment a little bit on where you plan to invest in terms of your channel strategy at this point?.

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We haven't seen a change in the sales cycle, so I can't associate myself with that. Regarding the channels, I think we are and we will make a large investment in working better with our channels. I think it's one of our leverage points. We have very strong channels and if we work better with our channel, that can increase our growth rate..

Erik Suppiger

What can you do to work better with the channel?.

Tal Payne

Every year, we review it, we make some changes in the core program, we make changes in the – there's many changes. You work better, you make sure there's more salespeople dealing with the channel, going together to account, there's many things to this..

Gil Shwed Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think there's a lot of it. It's not mainly an issue of just marketing program. It's really working and partnering with the channel. It's levering the channel effect. It's better working on a deal with channel partners, and it's a lot of work in the field.

We think we did grow our headcounts to support the channels and I think that's already starts to show results and hopefully will show more results in the future..

Operator

Thank you. We've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further or closing comments..

Kip E. Meintzer Head of Global Investor Relations

Thank you everybody for joining us on the call today. We look forward to talking with you throughout the quarter, and obviously look forward to next quarter's conference call. Thank you and have a great day. Bye-bye..

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today..

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