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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2019 - Q1
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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Ark Restaurants First Quarter 2019 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Sonal Shah, General Counsel..

Sonal Shah In-House Counsel

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining us on our conference call for the first quarter ended December 29, 2018. With me on the call today is Michael Weinstein, our Chairman and CEO; Vinny Pascal, our Chief Operating Officer; and Anthony Sirica, our Chief Financial Officer.

For those who have you not yet obtained a copy of our press release, it was issued over the newswires yesterday and is available on our website. To review the full text of that press release along with the associated financial tables, please go to our homepage at www.arkrestaurants.com. Before we begin, I'd like to read the Safe Harbor statement.

I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion this morning will include forward-looking statements and that these statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, undue reliance should not be placed on them.

We refer everyone to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion of the risks that may have a direct bearing on our operating results, performance and financial condition. I'll now turn the call over to Anthony for a few remarks..

Anthony Sirica Chief Financial Officer, President,Treasurer & Director

Good morning, everyone. Before Michael provides his commentary, I just wanted to ensure that everyone is clear on the impact that the write-offs associated with Durgin-Park had on our income statement. GAAP requires us to record these things within operating expenses, which then affects our operating income.

There were two significant items that were part of this write-down. One was for the trademark that we had on the Durgin-Park name and the other write-off was the acceleration of the depreciation and amortization of fixed assets.

So when you look at our net income, we just want it to be clear that in the current year, there was $1 million write-down that affected our net income. So if you added that black net of tax, our net income would be about $900,000.

When you compare that to the prior year, we had $1.6 million of net income, but that also included a discrete tax adjustment, a tax benefit of $1.2 million.

So when you exclude that, net income in the prior year was approximately $400,000 compared to, again, $900,000 in the current year, which just about peoples are increasing EBITDA for the period that Michael will discuss. I'll now turn it over to Michael Weinstein..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Anthony. I hope everybody understands that. The business in the December quarter, we should go through it region-by-region. Las Vegas continues to be strong. Florida is very strong for us. Both Rustic and Shuckers are doing well. Continue to make gains in headcounts. New York was okay.

The city, I think was slightly slower than it has been in previous years. We did a couple less events in the city than we have done in the prior year. So New York was a little bit slower, nothing to be concerned about. As matter of fact, we picked up in January quickly until the cold weather came and then we had a few bad days, but New York seems fine.

Washington, Sequoia, we start to see a lot of events in December. The event calendar is starting to fill up. January, we're starting to do a little bit better with events than the prior January. Our à la carte business in January and February, historically, is very, very slow. Sequoia is getting their.

We're not where we want to be yet, but there are advances and we think that – we're hopeful that by spring, we'll really be doing the kind of numbers that we expected to do coming out of renovation. So we closed in Boston, obviously. Alabama, we have sort of restructured the back offices in Alabama, the restructuring. We have fewer people.

We're taking on more of the work in the home office. The sales in Alabama are good. And I think with the restructuring, our operating profits going forward will be increased substantially. So our business, away from Washington, D.C., seems very, very solid and Sequoia, it still remains to be seen how we're going to do.

This would be the first spring and summer where we have all the outdoor cafe seats available to us. We didn't have that last year. We essentially did around $10 million last year without any benefit, a very little benefit from the outdoor seats. There are 550 outdoor seats.

If we get to see a benefit, then we'll come into the kind of numbers that our expectations, where – when we did the refurbishing of Sequoia. We have a little bit of a benefit coming to us in the fast food operations at the 2 Hard Rock hotels in which we have partners with the majority owner. We have partners for the last 2.5, 3 years.

The Hard Rock had changed their comping system, where there were no comps or no benefits of points allowed to be used in the past few quarters. As of January 7, they've changed their marketing plans where we can now use points and comps that they provide to their customers for food purchases to the fast food court. Our sales have jumped somewhat.

This can be very significant for us. If it continues, it's a three-month experiment. I think they are going to continue because they are seeing good results from this. So that will help us there. All-in-all, our business is solid.

The real swing here going forward will be the elimination of Durgin-Park, which was cash drain, and what happens with Sequoia in the spring. Those are the two components we've got to look at for this year. We've already written-off Durgin-Park and closed in January, so that’s not going to hamper us anymore.

The big plus here is what happens with Sequoia. The rest of the business is doing just fine. We're going to have an issue, especially in New York with minimum wage increases. We had another – a third leg of a three part minimum wage increase over the last three years We think we will recover most, if not all of that through some increased menu pricing.

Not specifically, in New York, we've increased prices just slightly, but we think we have a lot of room and we have increased prices in Florida where we have excess demand for our restaurants. We think we have room there. We think we have a little room in Alabama, and a little bit of room in Las Vegas.

So if we're successful in the way we plan these menu increases, we think the increases in minimum wage in New York will be offset by those menu prices. So we think we are doing good. And we think we should have a better year. Last year was a disaster with weather, way off in our projections.

It sort of made us gun-shy to project this year, but the December quarter was a decent quarter. Again, without – the December quarter was marked by bad results in Durgin-Park, in the December quarter, in addition to the right ones. The operating results weren't good and Sequoia was not in full bloom by any means. Any questions? I’m happy to answer..

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Bruce Geller, DGHM. Please proceed with your question..

Bruce Geller

Hi. Good morning, gentlemen..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, good morning..

Anthony Sirica Chief Financial Officer, President,Treasurer & Director

Good morning..

Bruce Geller

That sounds like pretty good news on the Hard Rock restaurants in Florida, because from what I remember, those caused a pretty significant fall off couple years back when you had that issue with the comping. So, that's good to hear.

And overall, it sounds like there should be some pretty good progress this year on EBITDA growth based on everything you just said. I'm curious if you could provide any update on the second quarter thus far. And then if you could talk about some of your growth initiatives longer term, please..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So January has been a pretty rough month in the Northeast because of just strikingly cold weather. The rest of the business has been very good. I don't have the January final numbers yet, quite honestly, Bruce. We're just getting those in. I think it's fine. The quarter will be fine.

There is nothing strikingly absorbable that would make us believe that we're not progressing in terms of positive EBITDA growth over last year for the quarter. But this is not a big quarter for us, the March quarter.

When you really see it, it’s obviously, in the warmer months, when those outdoor cafe seats were pumping and June and September quarters really make or break our year. But we're fine. I mean I don't – you're not going to see a big jump this quarter over the last year's quarter and March quarter ever unless we had some new properties.

So I hope that answers that part of the question. In terms of new initiatives, I'd like to discuss Rustic Inn first, and the economics of Rustic Inn. Because I don't think anybody get – you'd probably give us credit and so shareholders – and some shareholders give us credit. But it's indicative of the areas we're looking to expand into.

We bought Rustic Inn for $7.5 million, it included the property. At that time, the operation was earning a little over $1 million, we had figured that there were some add-backs that we – that are – the size of our company could bring through Rustic Inn in terms of savings and best practices. And so we figured it was $1.5 million.

And indeed it was $1.5 million. But we also thought that it was vastly underpriced. It had a 92-year-old owner who hadn’t paid attention to menu pricing in years because he was happy with the $1 million he was taking out of it. And at the same time, we bought it, there was a lot of development going on the area. New hotels were being built.

It's right near the airport and also on the shipping cruise line, docking places. So we saw more demand coming towards us, and we raised prices and more demand. And when you raise prices sometimes you figure – well how many headcounts I might going to lose, because I'm increasing prices. The opposite happened to us.

We raised prices and more people came, and we wound up with properties that to make them $3.5 million a year. And we own the land under it. So essentially, say we bought it at 2x future earnings, which is ridiculous comments make this we didn't know it at the time, but that's where it is.

But even when you look at low-interest rates and cap rates, even at $1.5 million, if we were prepared to take $1 million of that and do a sales leaseback. We think we’ll get 13x worth. So we paid $7.5 million for it. We do a sale leaseback. There is some taxes to pay.

But we think the land on the sales we expect could be worth of $13 million - $12 million, $13 million. And that would've been the case even with $1.5 million profit, et cetera, the sales leaseback guys will probably not want to do $1 million because there's not enough coverage. But today, there is $3.5 million to cover $1 million.

So we think that property is worth $13 million and give up $1 million to rent. And we still have $2.5 million left over. The same is true in Alabama to a lesser extent, where, again, we paid 5x for a business, 5x earnings of these two restaurants.

So we think the sale leaseback plus the restaurant operations would support sale leaseback will make our purchase look kind of smart. And the same is true to a smaller extent in Shuckers. So these are the areas that we're looking at.

We are seeing deals of single brand, one-off restaurants that own their property, where the property could be part of the deal, where the owners want to retire, or they're old or the restaurants – or the owner died and left it to some relative who doesn't want to run the restaurant. We're seeing these deals.

We're handcuffed only to the extent that we have leverage on our balance sheet or it can provide the leverage on our balance sheet to buy these things. So we're limited. We're not going to be able to buy 10 of them, if 10 of them came up, but if one or two of them came up this year, we should be able to do it.

And if we have to provide additional cash on our balance sheet by doing sale leasebacks, we'll do it. Because in the end, if you give up $1 million in Rustic for a $13 million sale and even after taxes you have $10 million, you could buy $2 million worth of EBITDA with the $10 million that’s left over.

So giving up $1 million, you can find another two given that there is always risk in buying these things and making sure you can manage them property. But we think these opportunities exist. And that's where our focus really is..

Bruce Geller

Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Bruce Martin, Still Lake Capital. Please proceed with your question..

Bruce Martin

Hi, Michael..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Bruce.

How are you?.

Bruce Martin

Good.

I mean at the beginning of the year, maybe creates an opportunity to take a kind of an overarching look at the year ahead and then maybe layout kind of ballpark rough areas where you see cash flow sort of coming out for the year, what're you planning on doing with the cash flow? How are you looking at this year? And how are you looking at the business, let's say, two or three years from now?.

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So I think I laid out the area where we're most interested in looking in terms of buying restaurants so that – and the property underneath them. That seems to be an area where we're comfortable – we're most comfortable with whatever risk there is in the restaurant business, for two reasons.

Number one, we think the capital that we generate is better used buying cash flow that already exists. Our history of running many different types of restaurants serves us well as this.

The guy who owns the single-brand restaurant and that may be extremely productive who wants to sell it doesn't have very many options because the national brands don't want them because they don't extend their brand. And local restaurant towards – probably can't afford to buy the.

So they're going to buy them with notes and here we can write a check and a person does not need to worry about the notes and that allows to buy them at a price that's very attractive to us. So that, again, the main area where we're looking.

We expect better cash flow this year, but I've got to tell you, we're gun-shy in terms of giving out a number based upon what happened to us last year.

We did a whether patents that if it's repeated will hurt us in any projection we give out, but it should be, by all accounts, the same year or close to the same year, we were projecting last year before we got killed by weather. So we made some changes in terms of getting Durgin-Park, which is a cash drain. We had tried to sell it.

We had tried to do things to come out better, but we just decide – in the end, we weren't able to accomplish anything with the assets so we just closed it. Everything else we have is doing just fine. And so I see an expression of our business in Las Vegas, it continues to improve, some a very strong point. We see Alabama is doing better.

We see Florida is doing better. Bruce Geller, who preceded you with the question, has got it right 2 Hard Rocks and they continue this beyond the three-month trial with the comps. That will benefit us tremendously.

So we think we're in very good shape for the year, but I'm really hesitant to give a number out, but we're going to use the capital to accomplish finding and bringing in more properties, where we own the property in addition to the restaurant operation. I think that that's the main goal here..

Bruce Martin

Okay, thanks..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You’re welcome..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back to Michael Weinstein for closing remarks..

Michael Weinstein Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So what purposely I haven't mentioned is the Meadowlands. We sort of have, in our mind, the Meadowlands on this side. We're not waiting for it to happen to grow our business.

We're pretending that it's never going to happen, but certain significant things have happen, the largest event, but most important event is the advent of sports betting last August. And we are doing about $10 million a week in sports betting at the Meadowlands.

Interesting enough, as of about 1 month, 1.5 ago, when they did the analysis with sports betting in the State of New Jersey, the Meadowlands was doing more business than all casinos put together who has sports betting. So it's sort of validates the case that the Meadowlands would be the ideal location for a casino.

We've mentioned other things that make it an important location, proximity, Manhattan, MGM as you probably know, have bought Yonkers Raceway, Sheldon Adelson is playing around the development in Queens. But New Jersey and the Meadowlands is closer to Manhattan and these are one of those locations.

Bergen County is one of the most densely-packed counties in the country. So we just think if it's going to happen, it's going to happen at the racetrack. Sports betting made the complex profitable. We should be seeing some small amount of the EBITDA from that, not a great amount, but we're going to see some money coming from that.

We think once Cuomo announces downstate betting in New York, which means, Bronx, Queens, that will force New Jersey's hand and sports betting is just first step, in our minds, if Meadowlands becoming a casino. We still think that's two years off, but we still very strongly persuaded this is going to happen.

So with that, thank you all for participating in call. And we’ll speak to you next quarter..

Anthony Sirica Chief Financial Officer, President,Treasurer & Director

Thank you..

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect..

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