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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q1
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Executives

Cary Dunston - President and CEO Scott Culbreth - SVP and CFO.

Analysts

Nick Coppola - Thomson Research Group Josh Chan - Robert W. Baird Scott Rednor - Zelman & Associates Garik Shmois - Longbow Research.

Operator

Good day and welcome to the American Woodmark Corporation First Quarter 2017 Conference Call. Today’s call is being recorded August 23, 2016. We will begin the call by reading the company’s Safe Harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

All forward-looking statements made by the Company involve material risks and uncertainties and are subject to change based on factors that maybe beyond the company’s control. Accordingly, the company’s future performance and financial results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in any such forward-looking statements.

Such factors include, but are not limited to, those described in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Annual Report to shareholders.

The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements, even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results expressed or implied therein will not be realized. I'd now like to turn the call over to Scott Culbreth, Senior Vice President and CFO. Please go ahead, sir..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to American Woodmark's first fiscal conference call. Thank you for taking time to participate. Joining me today is Cary Dunston, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Cary will begin with a review of the quarter and an update on our strategy, and I will add additional details regarding our financial performance. After our comments, we will be happy to answer your questions.

Cary?.

Cary Dunston

Thank you, Scott, and good morning all. We ended the first quarter of our new fiscal year on the positive. For the quarter, we grew sales 12% over prior year with the key drivers once again being our new construction and dealer channels.

But again, specifically, in new construction, we had very strong quarter growing our Timberlake business 19% over prior year. With the success of our direct to builder platform, we continue to over index single-family starts with ongoing market share gains.

From an industry perspective, single-family starts continue to trend up, strength varies by region with particularly strong comps in the Southeast and the Southwest. Regarding first-time homebuyers, the activity is still too low to be noticeable.

Although we are seeing an increase in existing home sales to first-time homebuyers, pricing and entry-level home availability continue to be key bottlenecks in the new construction market.

Taking a look at our dealer channels, we were up 13% from prior year as we continue to gain share in this critical channel by both signing on new dealers and improving our dealer of penetration. We do have a healthy backlog on the dealer channel as we head into the second quarter.

Our greatest challenge remains with the home center business, which was up only 1% in the first quarter. I’ve been fairly vocal regarding the increase in competitive promotional activity within the home center channel.

We have been very reluctant to respond at a similar level as there has been little indication that it is resulting in bringing additional consumers in the door.

However, as in our historical past, we will not allow competitors to simply buy share, and thus we are finalizing our strategy to respond in a way that moves our share back to more normalized levels. Our goal as part of this is to minimize the impact on our margins.

And despite this emphasis on promotions, we will continue our drive to make significant advancements in our innovative and technologically focused approach to the overall consumer value stream. From a gross margin perspective, we're very pleased with the performance at 23%.

We had similarly strong performance on our incremental gross margin for the first quarter coming at 34%. We continue to drive operational efficiency gains throughout our platform, as well as benefit from our improved product mix. However, it's also important to note that we experienced favorable health care costs in the quarter.

Finally on operating margin for the quarter, we came in at 12.4% and we generated $21.7 million in net income, up 43% from prior year. Relative to where we expected our performance to be in the first quarter, we came in stronger. We had some tailwinds and our production was slightly higher than we had initially planned.

However, our focus was on ensuring we kept our backlog at manageable levels. As you may recall, a year-ago, we ended the first quarter with our backlog too high, thereby negatively impacting our lead times to our customers. This year we did err on the side of being a bit conservative.

As a result, we are in a reverse situation from prior year and will be managing our production in our second quarter to bring backlog backup. In addition, we continue to keep a close eye on increasing headwinds, including diesel fuel, contractor logistic cost and inflation.

From a market perspective, we remain confident in both new construction and remodel. Our unique position with our Timberlake direct business will allow us to continue to over index the industry on incoming volume. Likewise our Waypoint dealer channel will continue to gain share. The big [far] question mark is within home center.

In total, home center is under indexing the dealer channel due to the more affluent consumer choosing to shop at dealers. However, the home center channel remains a very critical part of our overall mix and thus our plan is to restore our long-standing market share position by responding to the competitive promotions.

The ultimate impact is hard to predict, but remain confident in overall leadership position in the big-box channel. Before I hand it back over to Scott, I'd like to take a brief moment to give you a little bit insight on our strategic work that’s been underway for some time now.

We've been very focused on our 2019 vision, in particular, the application of new technology in bringing very innovative approaches to both our market value proposition and to our operating platform. However, we're also recognizing that competitive market is much different today than it was prior to the great recession.

Pre-recession within remodel, we were very successful, focusing on the stock segment of the market with our competitors primarily focused on the lower end in-stock segment and the higher-end semi-custom and custom segments of the market.

For some time now our strategy has been to defend our stock business while taking an opportunistic approach to semi-custom. During the recession our leadership in the stock segment positioned us well due to the movement down by consumers to more affordable kitchens.

As a result, competition became much more aggressive at launching new product to directly compete against us. The advantage we have is that our platform is specifically designed to operate efficiently in the segment and our success has been very apparent.

In addition through continued improvement in our manufacturing platform, we have been able to significantly expand our product offering in the lower end of the semi-custom segment. This is evident in our ongoing improvement in our financials related to product mix.

However, the pressure from competitors both from below and from above our current positioning is growing. As a result, we have been very focused on a key strategic initiative to broaden our competitive position as a solution provider in all relevant markets. This initiative has driven a tremendous amount of activity within our business.

We're challenging ourselves on many fronts when it comes to being a solutions provider. At the core, however, is a question of what we’ve determined to be relevant markets. From a pure product perspective, our stock segment provides a powerful foundation. However, longer-term we can no longer rely on simply defending the segment.

We feel it is important to make an offensive move to expand our capabilities beyond our current platform. We are evaluating a number of strategic options that would position us both above and potentially below the stock segment, including the option of acquisition or building a Greenfield facility.

Regarding acquisition opportunities, we have been working with the investment banking arm of Robert W. Baird & Company for a number of months now. Likewise an internal team is developing our formal strategy if we decided to expand organically. For now, we do not have any details to report. I simply wanted to communicate that we're not sitting still.

Our success over the past several years has been very exemplary. Most importantly, we recognize that we offer a tremendous amount of leverage with our competitive advantage to be successful in markets we do not currently serve. We are committed to make the right investments to continue to profitably grow American Woodmark well into the future.

With that, I will turn it over to Scott for the financial details..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Gary. The financial headlines for the quarter. Net sales were $258.2 million, representing an increase of 12% over the same period last year. Reported net income was $21.7 million or $0.32 per diluted share in the current fiscal year versus $15.2 million or $0.92 per diluted share last year.

The Company benefited $0.06 per diluted share from a lower tax rate related to the adoption of a new accounting standard related to stock-based compensation. For the quarter, the Company generated $32.9 million in cash from operating activities compared to $17.7 million last year.

The new construction market continues to perform well, recognizing a 60 to 90 day lag between start and cabinet installation. The overall market activity in single-family homes was up over 9% for the financial first quarter. Single-family starts during March, April and May of the prior period averaged 689,000 units.

Starts over that same time period from the current year averaged 753,000 units. Our new construction base revenue increased 19% for the quarter. As we’ve stated on prior calls, we continue to over index the market due to share penetration with our builder partners and the health of the markets where we concentrate our business.

The remodel business continues to be challenging. From a positive side, unemployment continues to improve. The July U3 unemployment rate dropped to 4.9% and U6 dropped to 9.7%. Both measures were lower than the July 2015 reported figures.

Residential investment as a percent of GDP for the second calendar quarter of 2016 improved to 3.6% versus 3.4% for the prior year. Although the percentage is improving, the index remains well below the historical average of 4.6% from 1960 to 2000. Existing home sales increased during the second calendar quarter of 2016.

Between April and June 2015, existing home sales averaged 5.28 million units. That same period for 2016 averaged 5.5 million units, an improvement of 4.2%. Interest rates remained low in the quarter with a 30-year fixed rate mortgage at 3.44% in July, a decrease of approximately 61 basis points versus last year.

All cash purchases in June were 22% unchanged from last year. The share of first time buyers improved. The June reported rate was 33% better than the prior year rate of 30%, but well below the historical norm of 40%.

On the negative side, the median existing meeting existing home price rose 4.8% to $247,700 for June, impacting our consumers affordability index. Consumer sentiment dropped to 19% in July versus the 92% reported at the beginning of the calendar year and the 94.7% reported in May. Homeownership rates remain low versus historical averages.

The percent of Americans who own their own home in the second calendar quarter was 62.9%, a 0.5% below last year rate.

Our combined home center and dealer remodel revenues were up 3% for the quarter with home centers drawing 1% and Waypoint growing 13%.Promotional activity remained higher than the prior year for the fiscal first quarter as we responded to competitive positioning and market conditions.

The Company's gross profit margin for the first quarter of fiscal year 2017 was 23% of net sales versus 21.7% reported in the same quarter of last year. The Company generated the year-over-year incremental gross margin rate of 34% for the first fiscal quarter.

Gross margin was positively impacted in the quarter by higher sales volume, product mix, lower labor benefit costs and improved operating efficiency. Total operating expenses decreased from 11.4% of net sales in the first quarter of the prior year to 10.6% this fiscal year.

Selling and marketing expenses were 6.4% of net sales in the first quarter of this year compared with 6.8% in the prior year. We generated leverage in selling and marketing costs through expense management and lower display costs.

General and administrative expenses were 4.2% of net sales in the first quarter of this year compared with 4.6% prior year. Decrease in our operating expense ratio was a result of leverage from increased sales and ongoing expense controls.

With respect to cash flows, the Company generated net cash from operating activities of $32.9 million in the first quarter of fiscal year 2017 compared with $17.7 million during the same period in prior year.

The improvement in the Company's cash from operating activities was driven primarily by higher operating profitability and lower increases in customer receivables. Net cash used by investing activities was $40.6 million during the first quarter of the current fiscal year compared with $15.3 million during the same period in the prior year.

The increase was due to a $35 million investment certificate of deposit which was partially offset by decreased investment, property, plant and equipment.

Net cash used by financing activities of $4.3 million increased $5.4 million during the first quarter of the current fiscal year compared to the same period in prior years, the Company repurchased 72,400 shares of common stock at a cost of $5.1 million, a $3.3 million increase from the prior year and proceeds from the exercise of stock options decreased $1.5 million.

In closing, the new construction market continues to improve with single-family housing starts approaching 800,000 units. Home prices continue to increase due to land and labor shortages and low existing home inventories.

Unemployment rates and interest rates back have improved, but the middle income consumers' willingness to spend on a new home or begin big ticket discretionary home improvement project remains low. We delivered a strong quarter with fuel and healthcare helping drive margin improvement.

Some potential headwinds are on the horizon as lumber cost increased year-over-year in the quarter. And fuel is projected to become unfavorable as the year progresses. Looking forward due to our strong financial performance in the first fiscal quarter, we now believe we will improve our operating margins for fiscal year 2017.

As Cary mentioned, we are not standing still and are excited about the strategic work that is underway to expand our capabilities beyond our current platform. This concludes our prepared remarks. We would be happy to answer any questions you have at this time..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we will take our first question from Nick Coppola of Thomson Research Group..

Nick Coppola

Good morning..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning..

Cary Dunston

Good morning, Nick..

Nick Coppola

Thanks for the commentary on the strategic initiatives. So I just want to ask a follow-up on that. I know you talked about the desire to address the wider kind of spectrum of the market above and below the stock category.

Can you just talk more about what that would look like and where you’re more interested in growing organically versus M&A and kind of how you think about that?.

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, I would say it’s a tough formula. The key focus beyond the strategy was the comments I made about defending the stock segment, and that served us very, very well for many years.

But with some of the changes in the store dynamics and where our competition now sits, even if it's a minimal or small impact on our stock we still lose share as they continue to launch product and I think it makes sense to expand our horizon and really take our core competency and say where we can -- where can we go out and gain additional market share and take our core strategic advantage with us, particularly on the customer service and that experience we talk about and really leverage that to our benefit.

Moving up, we all see as I commented in the lower end of the semi-custom segment now that we're kind of at the end of the capabilities of our current manufacturing platform, because it was very specifically designed to serve the stock segment.

So as we start to think about moving up, I mean there's you look at new margin structure, what it takes to serve the market, what product does it take to serve the market etcetera. We think we could do well in leveraging our core competency in the semi-custom space. I would not venture up into the custom serving on our plan right now.

But really the extension of where we are today to move up higher in regarding how you do that, I'll say it's really only two choices, you grow organically or you grow through acquisition and that’s a difficult formula. That’s number one. The market there's not a lot of players.

I will be honest with you out there that you could look at for acquiring that via the right scope. You have to be a strong strategic fit. They have to fit culturally that's very, very critical to us, and the list goes on.

But we have engaged Baird a number months ago actually we’re working with them for a while now, and evaluating all opportunities there. So, at the same time we are committed in with regards to the ability to expand into that semi-custom space.

So if it doesn’t work organically, we are committed to do it organically as well, if it doesn't work acquisition wise, we’re committed to do it organically as well. So in parallel past we’ve a team that is very focused on what that would mean to go out and do it organically. It's not a simple bolt-on to our current platform.

It would be a brand-new platform to go out and serve the semi-custom space, because its -- it goes above and beyond, really what our capabilities are today. It's just a different technology and finishing, the machine and everything. So it’s a different technology and really what we're set to do today.

Similarly, we start looking below where we offer product today into the lower end of the stock segment. It starts to open up the market, so it's not just about going to home center with a lower-cost product. It's about talking about markets, for example, multifamily. We don't currently serve multifamily.

It's -- it tended to be a lower cost market, obviously much different with regard to how you approach that business more contractual base, more longer-term from the lifecycle. But once again a market that would place tremendous value on the service that we could bring.

So we’re in the process of understanding what product it would take, how you do to serve that market, and then what it would take to do it. Once again, that goes outside the boundaries of our current platform. So we're looking at all options, up to including acquisition and/or going green field. So different technologies and so forth.

So what’s the right answer and the right action? I don’t have that yet, but I think the positive thing is we’re open to any of the above and we'll do the proper due diligence and make the best decision for obviously a long-term viability to Company and for shareholders..

Nick Coppola

Okay. That’s certainly helpful color there. And then, shifting gears to the quarter, gross margin were really well above expectations and you called out a few different items and release in your opening commentary there are higher sales volume, lower labor benefit costs, lower display costs etcetera.

Can you just help us think about the magnitude of each of those and how are you thinking about related to gross margin performance in the quarter?.

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, so within the quarter you hit the high watermarks there. So of course incremental volume certainly helps us as we go mix also helps us. So we're getting leverage across our manufacturing base.

The piece that I will call out specifically would be on the labor benefit costs and now its related to healthcare, which was favorable for us from a year-over-year standpoint. It was about 100 basis points of operating margin. So it was fairly significant.

A bit of that was timing, but we’ve just seen lower claim rates in participation from employment base with our health plan. So, that was the piece that was, I’d say, probably a bit of a surprise in the period and then the rest is really around project focus, operating efficiency focus..

Nick Coppola

Okay. Then just last question here. I know last quarter we talked about maintaining operating margin for the year, only one quarter in here, but you still think that seems like a reasonable expectation.

Any kind of thoughts about kind of the back nine months of the year?.

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. So, in my closing remarks, based on the strong financial performance we saw in the first fiscal quarter and we don’t give precise guidance, right.

So, we don't give you an exact value or quarterly value, but as you referenced in our annual report or coming out of our year end call, we referenced holding operating margin based on performance we just delivered at our first quarter. I believe this will improve operating margin for fiscal year '17.

I know the follow-up will be well how much and I'm not ready to declare value there. But our expectation is we will show improvement and progress in that line now year-over-year..

Nick Coppola

Okay. Thanks for taking the questions..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you..

Cary Dunston

Thank you, Nick..

Operator

And we will take a question from Josh Chan of Baird..

Josh Chan

Hi, good morning and great quarter guys..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Josh..

Cary Dunston

Thanks, Josh..

Josh Chan

Could you just elaborate more on the comment about promotion of the home centers, particularly around timing.

How much of the increased promotional activity was reflected in kind of the numbers that you reported just now and is there going to be any change in terms of strategy from Q1 into Q2 that's not yet reflected?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, Q1 was primarily impacted by the, I'd say the offset of the promotional activity by our competitors versus ourselves. We did not respond in our first quarter. So that 1% comp that we reported was really based on our opinion that inequality in the promotional activity. So our plan is in Q2.

Can't give you exact timing because we're still working with the home centers and our team is refining it. But in the very near future, we plan to implement a change that will have a impact. Our expectations will have an impact on our Q2.

There is a lag there obviously you go out with promotional activity it impacts your incoming rate, but with the backlog built-in start to shipping those until on average 30 to 40 days later.

So it start that more of an impact towards the end of the second quarter, but we will definitely start our goal is to have a direct impact in Q2 and obviously leading to Q3 and beyond..

Josh Chan

Okay. Okay, so it sounds like that home center growth can be -- could be better in Q2? I guess, in general for the whole company you do have a tougher comp in terms of revenue growth in Q2.

Is there any thought behind whether you can kind of overcome that and kind of sustain this type of revenue growth or how should we think about the tougher comp there?.

Cary Dunston

We tend -- internally we tend to focus a lot on incoming, I know what you see what's visible is kind of the outgoing or to the production or the revenue piece of it. I made the comment in mind that our backlog is slightly lower than that we would like it to be.

So as we head into Q2, we’re going to manage production to bring that backlog back up a little bit. The challenge is really the forecasting piece or the incoming piece. This business have been pretty tough to forecast.

So what we tend to communicate and we do feel strong as we will continue to over index on an incoming perspective which does relate directly to the revenue piece on the dealer side and the new construction business. Home center we're expecting -- our goal is to get back up to the normalized leadership role that we've had in the past.

That will take a couple months to do that to carry that out. So, yes, I mean it is a tougher comp. The direct comparison -- obviously we can't really give that for the guidance, but we will continue to over index on the new construction and dealer from an incoming perspective..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Josh, the only other comment I’d add to that is our outlook for the year that we shared last quarter was we did expect to see growth for the full-year kind of low teens. I'd say we still hold to that expectation. Again, some quarters will be higher, some quarters will be lower, but that’s still our expectation for the full-year..

Josh Chan

Okay, great. So that’s unchanged. All right.

And then, I appreciate the comments about the strategy as well and in deciding between kind of whether you want to go higher price point or lower price point, I guess, what are some of the financial criteria that or goal that you look to achieve with these moves? And then, if you were to move to the semi-custom is there kind of a new organizational structure that you would need to build out or do you think you have a fairly good starting point in terms of service and things like that?.

Cary Dunston

Yes. The benefit is we would leverage the most from an SG&A perspective. That's the biggest benefit as we would be able to leverage what's in place today and even get some synergies there. From a manufacturing perspective, it would be a buildup. So it's an add-on be on acquisition, which you have the synergies.

From an SG&A perspective we have the sales force in place. You go out to our dealer channels, we have the sales force in place, our home center channels, new construction etcetera. We really do not feel we would have to expand that to any degree to go out and start selling additional product.

If you get into semi multifamily, yes it's going to be some incremental SG&A cost because that’s a different business. But I think from a leverage perspective you’re still getting quite a bit there. With regard to decision, we're evaluating both of them. The expectations, both of them need to be accretive from a revenue and bottom-line perspective.

You would obviously think that in our expectation is that the semi-custom business should be better margin business.

But there is a lot that we are still investigating and strategic work that’s underway, but certainly any time we go out and think about adding the business whether its Greenfield organically or in acquisition, it is we will make the right decision that really help our finance with both top and bottom line.

So, I mean we feel we definitely can do that. It's not just a growth strategy. We have no desire to go out and grow without also improving our bottom line. So we feel we can do that..

Josh Chan

Great. Thanks for the color and good quarter..

Cary Dunston

Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our next question from Scott Rednor of Zelman & Associates..

Scott Rednor

Hi. Good morning..

Cary Dunston

Good morning. Scott..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Scott..

Scott Rednor

Okay. I have a question that you referenced that the backlog was slightly lower than you'd expect it to be. Is that incoming orders in August slightly lower than you expected it to be or you guys just gain into backlog? I was hoping you could just clarify that comment..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, it always goes into the plan versus forecast and we have forecasted Q1. We actually have -- we were -- we are on the side of being conservative. So what we put into the system was designed purposely to bring production up. We're caught off guard last quarter, our last year first quarter primarily driven by our product launch on incoming.

But we I committed back then and I committed my team that we will always there in the side of conservatism to always protect the customer and we did that this time. So we were slightly lower on incoming than what we had forecasted not to any concerned level though. It's just a matter that we brought production up to make sure we control backlog.

As we go into Q2, still have good backlog. We had -- then varies by channel obviously when we talk about new construction or dealer. We have healthy backlog.

We're expecting those to remain strong and yet be careful, when we get into Q2 and trying to estimate what production or what revenue will be, just because I say we’re going to manage backlog, obviously a big variable and that is and what is incoming do in Q2, because that has a major impact on our backlog as well.

So we’re not expecting production to come down or anything relative to Q1. It's -- that’s very dependent upon both the current levels as well as what we're forecasting on incoming. And we are expecting a good Q2 from an incoming perspective.

We just have to manage that backlog so when I say we’re going to bring it up, that means we will not take production as high as what we potentially would have given the incoming. So it's -- and I’m kind starting to circle or strictly reference here, but without giving our guidance.

But that’s why I don’t have any concern with regards to our incoming and so forth in the channel. I feel confident that we're going to continue to regain some of that in the home center. It's just a matter of making sure we're protecting the customer.

And the good thing is we -- as you know we don't live quarter-by-quarter and we use that backlog variable to make sure we take care of our customers and so I want to make sure that people understood that we're doing that right now..

Scott Rednor

And when you discuss the action to respond that the home centers, given how faster earnings growth and the improvement we’re seeing externally on the gross margin line.

Why is that the right strategy?.

Cary Dunston

To respond to -- its kind of a long-standing question of where we’re from a product mix perspective and our goal like I commented, we’re not going to go out and make any financial decision to take, I will say, the cost that’s tremendously on a promotional side that’s going to result in a negative impact to the bottom line.

I think we obviously Scott and his team go through the financial analysis and okay what’s the equation. If we go out and increase promotional activity, and what do we get from this, so we can go out and improve our market share, is it worth it? We’ve done that math and considering we do feel and that was a big thing we're waiting for, right.

It was -- is this a steady-state new model that exist today and our decision today, yes it is. If we obviously don’t take any action, we will be sitting with quite a bit less shares than what we sat for many, many years. So the question as you go out and take action to try to regain that share and what’s the financial formula to do that.

We feel quite confident we can do that in a very positive way. So, yes I will say it’s a right decision from both the top and bottom line perspective. And it's also longer term question of the strategic implications of not showing the home center that we’re taking them very serious. Our competitors are out there being very aggressive in home center.

If we step back and just let them continue to buy that share. It also sends a wrong message to the designers and to the home center leadership as well. That's a very, very important market to us. Home center is obviously are going to remain very key to our mix for many years in the future.

We are working very close with them strategically and from a promotional perspective. We made a decision that we need to go out and make some changes..

Scott Rednor

I think that’s very helpful that you clarify that Cary. And then, just lastly M&A is not being part of the core DNA for American Woodmark probably ever in recognizing that that's now on the table. How do you think about the potential bringing on an acquisition in terms of I think alluded to before fitting the culture.

Is this going to be something that you guys think you could seamlessly integrate just that this is the first time around for the Company in terms of adding something inorganically if you choose to pursue that route?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, its -- and I agree 100%. We are taking it very serious. I personally do have some prior experience with this trying to understand the challenges. I’m also semi-optimistic when it comes to acquisitions. I know there is a lot of value that’s often destroyed when you go out and do acquisition.

So we would do a lot and lot of due diligence if we were to make that decision. I think it’s a narrow window on what would make a really good strategic fit because you have to take into consideration what you're getting out of it.

The technology you’re getting, the industry is really moving forward with regards to technological improvements and the speed to market is improved I believe today. I mean, look how quickly we’ve grown our Waypoint business into a channel that we were nonexistent five years ago, six years ago. So there's a lot of pros and cons to it.

So I think we have a good understanding of what is going to take, but at the same time I'll guarantee you we’re not underestimating what the implications maybe of going out and doing an acquisition. So we would take a very serious culture.

We would be at the forefront and the type of company we were to would consider would have to meet those requirements. So Baird is there to help us along the way though, if we decide to do something like that. But we would -- we’re taking our time.

That’s really why we've not communicate anything in the past even though we’ve been looking at this for some time, because we haven't taken our time. So is that the right answer? I don't know.

I think it's important just to say at this point that we are opening ourselves up to make sure we look at all potential opportunities rather than restricting ourselves to just saying we’re going to go out and go Greenfield. It might make sense, it may not, but it’s the least us opening ourselves up to say that we’re considering an acquisition..

Scott Rednor

Great. Thank you for all the color..

Operator

And we will go next to Garik Shmois of Longbow Research..

Garik Shmois

Hi, thanks and congratulations on the quarter. Just wanted to follow-up on the strategic initiatives that you’re exploring to provide the color on the different choices that you're considering.

Just wondering if you could talk about your view on the capital structure right now and if an acquisition comes along or if the Greenfield route is chosen, is there any thoughts to taking on the leverage if the right opportunity presents itself?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, I mean, we're not at this point prepared to get into a lot of detail on that. It's evident depending on the size and scope of the company we acquired depending on what decision we make on how to make that acquisition.

So once again I would say that we have to be open to all options including leverage, but that's not something that we are prepared to talk to you right now. So it's, I would say lot of variables going to that mix as well and particularly the size of the company you could acquire.

You have to be realistic, there is not a lot of companies out there to have a lot of size to them. So that’s -- I think that’s an important thing that people are realizing. If you really go out and look at semi-custom space it's not a long list of companies that even have the scope that we will consider.

So, but by no means I think people know we’ve been a conservative company in the past with regards to our balance sheet and I have no means to plan on changing it, I will tell you that. I mean it doesn’t mean we wouldn't become more leveraged, but by no means are we going to do anything that would substantially put any risk on our balance sheet..

Garik Shmois

Okay. That’s helpful. And my follow-up is on the healthcare benefit that you saw in the quarter. I think coming out of the last quarter there was an expectation that healthcare costs were actually going to be a headwind as you looked out to Fiscal '17.

So just trying to reconcile the tailwind that you saw in Q1 and how we should think about the healthcare side looking out over the next several quarters?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, so just to clarify, so it was a benefit from a year-over-year perspective within the quarter which is a different comment and what it's been trending throughout the calendar year. So one of the things that's different about our health care plan as we do run a calendar programs was January to December as opposed for our fiscal year program.

So we are about halfway through, if you will, our calendar year plan program. So I think from a tailwind standpoint what you expect to see is as you get further into the year is folks start to hit their deductible and therefore you start to see a bit more cost come across with the program. So that’s the point we're making on that..

Garik Shmois

Okay. Thanks so much..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we will hear from Josh Chan of Baird..

Josh Chan

Hi. Just two follow-up questions.

First is, did you incur any product launch costs this quarter? I think you mentioned those costs as potentially one of the factors maybe impacting margins this fiscal year last quarter?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, we did talk about that being impact on the fiscal year, but those are mostly going to be our Q2 and Q3 timeframe. So they were not any essentially in Q1..

Josh Chan

Okay, great.

And then second question is, did the dealer growth, the percentage growth has been a little bit lower than what you guys have reported recently, is it just a function of growing off of our higher base or what is the expectation or any comment around that?.

Cary Dunston

Yes, part of it once again incoming versus outgoing. The dealer channel continues to grow last year. We did have a strong product launch and the timings can be different this year on the product launch. We are in the process of communicating that project launch to the dealers and to other channels now.

As Scott mentioned, that primarily occur in Q2 and Q3. So it's really just timing. We remain very confident in the dealer business and we feel we will continue to over index. So yes, we’re -- comps are slightly lower, lower than what we have historically been running.

But we do expect a good remaining fiscal year and we do have a good backlog sitting out there..

Josh Chan

Great. Thank you..

Operator

As I do not see that there is anyone else waiting to ask a question, I would like to turn the line over to Mr. Culbreth for any closing comments. Please go ahead sir..

Scott Culbreth President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Since there are no additional questions, this concludes our call. Thank you for taking time to participate..

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s conference. Thank you everyone for your participation. You may now disconnect..

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