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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2019 - Q2
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Abeona Therapeutics Inc. Second Quarter 2019 Earnings and Business Update Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. And at this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief Question-and-Answer Session will follow the formal presentation.

For opening remarks and introductions, I'll turn the call over to Sofia Warner, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin..

Sofia Warner

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome everyone. Today's call will be led by João Siffert, our CEO. Following João, Tim Miller, our President and Chief Scientific Officer will present preclinical highlights; and Christine Silverstein, our Chief Financial Officer will review our financials.

Before I turn the call over to them, I need to remind our listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements on this call are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the federal securities laws.

Information contained in these statements is based on current expectations and is subject to change and actual results may differ materially from forward-looking statements.

Some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ may be found in the Company's Annual Reports on Form 10-K and Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q filed by the Company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website, www.abeonatherapeutics.com.

With that said, it is now my pleasure to introduce to you Dr. João Siffert. João, you have the floor..

João Siffert

Thank you, Sofia. And thank you all for joining us today for our second quarter results and business highlights, which we believe reflects substantial progress in the continued development of our clinical and preclinical programs, as well as our manufacturing and quality operations.

Today, I will review the key quarter accomplishments and recent events and then turn the call over to Tim, who will discuss the developments within our preclinical programs and updates from our next-generation AIM capsid platform. I would like to start off with an update on our Recessive Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa program.

As a reminder, RDEB is a rare and severely debilitating genetic skin disorder caused by mutations, which result in lack of functional Collagen VII, the main component of the anchoring fibrils that attach the dermis to the epidermis.

Without functional Collagen VII, RDEB patients have extremely fragile skin, the blisters and tears ultimately leading to multiple wounds, some of which remain open for years and cover a significant amount of the body.

RDEB wounds are very painful, lead to multiple dermatological and systemic complications and currently have no effective treatment options. Patients rely on palliative treatments that include time-consuming and expensive wound care to protect open wounds, reduce pain, prevent infection, and often require comprehensive pain management.

We are currently developing EB-101, an autologous gene-corrected cell therapy that restores normal functional Collagen VII to keratinocytes and their progenitors. Each EB-101 gene-corrected keratinocyte sheets,which can cover an area of approximately 35 to 40 sq. cm is transplanted into open wounds providing prompt wound healing.

Two skin biopsies allow manufacture of six EB-101 sheets, which combined can cover wound areas measuring up to 240 sq. cm. To our knowledge, EB-101 is the only product in development for RDEB with clinical data showing it could heal large chronic wounds that had been open for years.

The Phase 1/2 A trial conducted by Stanford University showed that EB-101 healed an average of approximately 130 sq. cm per patient and up to 160 sq. cm in some patients with durability of two to five plus years post-treatment. The majority of RDEB wounds are chronic, often remain open for years and tend to be larger than a 120 sq. cm.

Wound healing of such large wounds is in itself clinically significant and the long-term follow-up from the Phase 1/2 A trial showed that 50% or more wound healing was associated with meaningful reduction in pain. Our goal is to bring this transformative therapy to patients with RDEB as soon as possible.

We recently met with the FDA to discuss the final stages of a preparation for our upcoming Phase 3 clinical trial called VITAL aimed at confirming the safety and efficacy of EB-101 observed in the Phase 1/2 A study.

At this meeting, the FDA addressed information that we’ve previously submitted regarding quality testing of the product in certain aspects of our Phase 3 clinical trial protocol.

We believe we have successfully completed the manufacturing process of EB-101, and the request for clarification on chemistry, manufacturing, and controls are focused on product transport and on the protocol to assess comparability of the to-be-commercial retrovirus used in EB-101 manufacturing.

In addition, FDA provided feedback on selection, measurement, and timing of certain patient-reported outcome measures. We are currently addressing the valuable feedback received and will provide clarification and supplemental documentation for items previously submitted to the FDA as soon as possible.

We have requested meetings with the respective FDA reviewers to address their questions, so we can proceed with the Phase 3 trial in fourth quarter 2019. The VITAL Phase 3 study will be a multi-center, randomized clinical trial assessing EB-101 for treatment of approximately 35 wound sites across 10 to 15 RDEB patients.

The primary outcome measure of this study will be wound healing at three months comparing the proportion of treated wound sites with at least 50% healing to untreated ones on the same patients. By protocol, participants eligible to enroll in VITAL will have chronic wounds larger than 40 sq. cm. In most cases, their chronic wounds exceed 120 sq.

cm require frequent wound care and are associated with disabling pain and are at a great risk for infection. Additional study endpoints will include the patient global impression to change for pain at each wound site compared with baseline as well as measurements of pain intensity during dressing changes in their clinic visits.

Patients will be followed for up to six months for assessment of wound healing durability and overall safety. We estimate there are about 2500 RDEB patients in the U.S. who could benefit from multiple EB-101 treatments, given the large number and size of wounds observed among the population.

The RDEB patient community and their treating physicians are anxious to have EB-101 available as soon as possible. Learnings from the Phase 1/2 A trial have equipped our clinical team to best prepare for Phase 3. The Stanford University team is also ready to start enrolling patients as soon as we receive FDA endorsement to proceed.

Additional study sites will begin in the ensuing months. I’d next like to provide an update for our program assessing ABO-102 for MPS IIIA, also known as Sanfilippo syndrome type A, a rare lysosomal storage disease with no approved treatment that primarily affects the Central Nervous System or CNS.

ABO-102 is our novel gene therapy dosed one-time intravenously using a self-complementary AAV9 vector to deliver two functional copies of the SGSH gene to cells on the CNS as well as the peripheral organs.

The therapy is designed to correct the underlying SGSH enzyme deficiency and prevent cellular accumulation of heparan sulfate that leads to cell dysfunction, cell death, and rapid neurodevelopmental decline and physical impairment. We are currently assessing the safety and efficacy of ABO-102 in the Transpher A Study, also known as ABT-001.

This study is a two-year open-label dose escalation Phase 1/2 global clinical trial for patients with MPS IIIA who will have a developmental quotient of at least 60% of normal levels for age and meet other eligibility criterion.

The study primary outcome measure focus on neurodevelopmental progress and safety with secondary measures of behavior, quality of life, heparan sulfate levels in CSF, plasma and urine and brain and liver volume.

Last month, we were excited to share positive interim data for our Transpher A Study, showing that there were three youngest patients enrollment of study at ages 26, 19 and 12.5 months at dosing, all enrolled in cohort 3 continue to track with a normal range of the age-equivalent development at ages 44, 31, and 24.5 months respectively, that is 12 to 18 months post-treatment.

To our knowledge, our data are the only reported evidence suggesting that a gene therapy treatment could alter the typical neurodevelopmental course in children with MPS IIIA.

We believe our data also corroborates the basic principle that feeding neurodegenerative disorders before they become more advanced can provide the best chance for a benefit, especially in a disease that causes rapid neurological impairments within the first few years of life.

The study data show that intravenous ABO-102 administration resulted in a durable reduction in CSF heparan sulfate, a key biomarker of MPS IIIA. Improvement in CSF heparan sulfate was dose-dependent and reached their lower limit of method detection for eight patients enrolled in cohort 3.

Reductions in liver volume were also sustained during the observation period of up to two years. In addition, safety profile of ABO-102 remains favorable and no product-related serious adverse events were reported to-date. We continue to screen patients for enrollments in the Transpher A Study at sites in the U.S., Spain, and Australia.

We are pursuing on our meeting with the FDA in the second half of this year to discuss study data and getting clarity on the development path forward. Moving on, I’d like to discuss our ABO-101 program, an investigational one-time gene therapy for the treatment of MPS IIIB, also known as Sanfilippo syndrome type B.

MPS IIIB is a rare devastating and fatal lysosomal storage disease with no approved treatment that is characterized primarily by rapid neurodevelopmental decline leading to early death. We recently announced that FDA granted fast track designation to ABO-101 recognizing the severity and importance of addressing this rare orphan disease.

To briefly review, the Transpher B Study also known as ABT-002 is a two-year open-label Phase 1/2 Study primarily evaluating safety and neuro development of the MPS IIIB children treated with ABO-101. Eligible patients need to have a developmental quotient of at least 60% of normal levels for age and meet other standard criterion.

Secondary outcome measures include CSF and urine heparan sulfate levels, CSF and serum NAGLU enzyme activity in liver and brain volume by MRI. We are pleased to share that to-date we have treated a total of five patients with MPS IIIB, two in cohort 1 and three in cohort 2.

Study recruitment efforts continue and we have a queue of patients awaiting screening across sites in the U.S., Spain and France. With a post-treatment follow-up ranging from less than one month to more than 20 months post-dosing, the overall safety profile remains favorable and there have been no serious adverse events related to ABO-101.

Improvements in disease-specific biomarkers were similar to that observed for MPS III program. We expect to report interim data for the trial in the second half of this year. We also have made progress advancing our CLN1 program to the clinic.

CLN1 disease, also known as infantile Batten disease as a rare fatal inherited disorder of the nervous system that generally presents in childhood and leads to visual and neurological impairment and early death.

In May, we announced the FDA clearance of our IND for ABO-202, an AAV9 gene therapy for CLN1 disease and in June, we’ve received FDA fast track designation for this program.

These regulatory milestones in combination with the previously reported preclinical data, which showed a favorable safety profile and no significant toxicities leaves us excited about the potential for ABO-202 in CLN1. We will provide guidance on the timing of the study later this year.

Finally, from a company standpoint, this quarter would strengthen our management team with two important appointments. We are fortunate to announce the recruitment of Dr. Victor Paulus as Senior Vice President of Regulatory Affairs and Jodie Gillon as Vice President of Patient Advocacy and Clinical Affairs.

Victor brings to Abeona over 30 years of experience in the pharmaceutical industry including over 20 years specializing regulatory affairs. His experience will be instrumental as we bring the gene and cell therapies to patients.

Jodie brings over 20 years of valuable industry experience and makes her an ideal person to lead our Patient Advocacy and Clinical Affairs function in close collaboration with patients, families and medical and scientific stakeholders. Both Victor and Jodie have already had an immediate positive impact for Abeona.

Before I turn the call over to Tim, I’d like to close by taking a moment to heartfully thank all the patients, families, clinicians, and patient organizations who have participated in and partnered in our efforts to advance our mission of working together to deliver gene and cell therapies for people impacted by serious diseases.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Tim.

Tim?.

Timothy Miller

Thank you, João. During the second quarter, we reported new preclinical data developed from our AIM capsid platform, a next-generation of adeno-associated virus capsids for use in gene therapy.

The AIM capsid library can utilize AV biology to selectively target delivery of genetic payloads to the central nervous system, lungs, eye, muscle, liver and other tissues.

In April, we presented new data from the ABO-401 program, our novel gene therapy for cystic fibrosis at the American Society for Gene and Cell Therapy 22nd Annual Meeting in Washington D.C. ABO-401 has a regulatable human mini-CFTR gene that is efficiently packaged into AAV204 one of our next-generation library capsids.

The data presented at ASGC demonstrates that ABO-401 efficiently delivered a highly expressed, functional copy of human mini-CFTR to the lung of CF mice and restored CFTR lung function in human CF patient nasal and bronchial epithelial cells.

This adds to the growing body of evidence suggesting ABO-401 may address the challenges in lung delivery and transgenic expression that have limited the advancement in gene therapy for CF patients.

In this and other preclinical studies, ABO-401 restored CFTR expression and chloride conductance in airway epithelia, the main cells of the lung that contribute the CF pathology in human.

Robust expression of AAV204 in the lungs of CF mice was observed and demonstrated that the AAV204 capsid was equally or more efficient at delivering gene expression cassettes to the lung, compared to other naturally-occurring AAV capsids.

Further, the data demonstrated that ABO-401 restored CFTR-specific nasal potential difference in the CF mice, and that the ABO-401 gene expression cassette makes a fully functional and processed CFTR.

We believe that the recent data are encouraging and ABO-401 is a promising candidate when they ultimately change the landscape of CF treatment by introducing a one-time gene therapy.

Also during the quarter, Abeona presented new preclinical data on our novel AIM AAV204 capsid, demonstrating the broad therapeutic potential of AIM gene therapy in retinal diseases. The data were presented in May at the Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalmology Annual Meeting in Vancouver.

The data showed that intravitreal administration of our novel AIM AAV204 capsid to non-human primates led to robust transgene expression in the inner and outer retina. Expression was observed in the peripheral retina and fovea 25 days post-administration.

AAV204 also transduced photoreceptor cells in retinal explants and transduced the outer retina with positive green fluorescent protein expression. These data support the potential use of AAV204 for intravitreal administration to deliver gene therapy in an outpatient setting for a wide range of inherited and acquired retinal diseases.

The non-human primate data were complemented by findings from mouse model, which identified AAV204 as one of the three lead candidates to AIM capsid that demonstrates robust transduction of retinal cells.

The data demonstrated in mice that intravitreal administration resulted in broad retinal expression of AAV204 that penetrated the photoreceptor and the retinal pigmented epithelial layer.

The broad retinal tropism of the AAV204 capsid in non-human primates underscores the potential of our platform to deliver gene therapy beyond inherited diseases, including the treatment of acquired retinal disorders that may be currently underserved.

Intravitreal administration of AAV gene therapy, which does not require surgery, could potentially be performed in an outpatient setting and may be a safer and less invasive approach than sub-retinal administration.

AIM vectors are non-replicating and have shown the potential to evade the immune responses generated by exposure to naturally occurring AAV vectors. Our library contains more than a 100 capsids with tissue tropisms selected for the potential to target a wide range of organs and multiple routes of delivery.

An important consideration is the route of administration and we have shown data in rodent and non-human primates that we can utilize different AIM capsids to target the photoreceptors and the retinal pigmented epithelium in either sub-retinal or intravitreal injection.

The AIM capsid increased our potential for targeting multiple eye inserters through delivery of therapeutic or employing the machinery to enable gene editing. Lastly, we have now demonstrated in vitro that select AIM capsids can evade neutralizing antibodies against naturally occurring AAV capsids that maybe present in some patients.

We believe this finding is significant as it may allow AIM-based AAV gene therapy for patients who have been previously treated or excluded since by the participation owing to existing anti-AAV antibodies. Evading anti-AAV immunity could potentially also enable retreatment of patients who previously received AAV gene therapy with other serotypes.

We look forward to discussing these and additional AIM programs in the future. I will now turn the call over to Christine, who will review our financials.

Christine?.

Christine Berni-Silverstein

Thank you, Tim. We have recently filed the 10-Q, where you can kind all the specific information on our financial results. But in summary, our cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities as of June 30, 2019 were $62.5 million, compared to $68.3 million as of March 31, 2019.

Net cash used in operating activities for the quarter was $15.2 million as compared to $9 million in the same period of 2018, an increase in cash outflows of $6.2 million. R&D expenses for the three months ended June 30, 2019 was $16.3 million, compared to $7.9 million in the same period of 2018.

The increase in research and development expense is primarily attributed to increase in in-house manufacturing activities and related headcount costs. General and administrative expenses for the quarter were $5.6 million, compared to $4.6 million in the same period of 2018.

The increase in G&A expenses was primarily due to the increased headcount and related facility costs. Net loss was $0.49 per share for the second quarter of 2019, compared to $0.26 per share in the same period of 2018. That's the summary financials.

With respect to the upcoming Investor and Scientific Conferences, I'd like to highlight that on September 4h, we will be in Boston attending the Citi’s 14th Annual Biotech Conference and on September 5th, we will also be attending the Wells Fargo Securities Healthcare Conference also in Boston.

We will update you on those planned presentations as we get closer to the events. And with that, I'd like to turn it back over to João..

João Siffert

Thank you, Christine. In summary, we in the second quarter, we have made important progress that we believe position Abeona well to drive forward our mission of turning hope into reality for our patients. Thank you. I will now turn over to the operator to open up for questions.

Operator?.

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Maury Raycroft of Jefferies. Please state your question. .

Maury Raycroft

Hi, good morning everyone and thanks for taking my question. First question is on ABO-101. It seems like you expanded the 5E13 cohort from 3 to 6 to 4 to 7 in July, added an efficacy-based primary endpoint to look at neurocog and then added some secondary endpoints as shown on clinicaltrials.gov.

And so, I am just wondering if there are any specific reasons why some of these changes were made and if FDA or KOLs encourage the changes? And then, just bigger picture, what else is – what is needed in IIIB to eventually seek approval for this indication?.

João Siffert

Hi, Marty, it’s João here. I’ll take those questions. So, you are referring to the MPS IIIB program.

Is that correct, as I understood?.

Maury Raycroft

That’s correct. .

João Siffert

Since the beginning of this. Yes, so, these are essentially changes to harmonize the IIIB program with the IIIA program. So, what we are trying to do is again focus the enrollment of patients who we believe are not – that have not undergone much advancement in their disease and therefore could stand to benefit to the most from the therapy.

But not to say that children who have more advanced disease couldn’t benefit, it’s just that the effect size will likely be larger in children who are still functioning at a higher level, and thus codified by setting up the inclusion criteria with the developmental quotient of 60% or greater.

So, is that your question? And then, we will continue to take the same approach on the IIIB program as we have on the IIIA program and that we continue to collect both biomarkers and their developmental data from this program and once we have sufficient data to identify a clinical benefit beyond just the biological benefit of markers, which we expect to see and have seen in the first patient, expect to seeing in these ensuing patients.

We will again engage the agency in discussions for further development of the program. .

Maury Raycroft

Got it. That’s helpful. And then, for the IIIB patients, can you talk about some of their baseline characteristics at this point, maybe anything on age, and baseline neurocog function? And then it seems like, some … yes, I’ll let you answer that and then do a follow-up..

João Siffert

Yes, so, these patients meet the eligibility criteria. So, we’ll not disclose the specific age at this point. We’ll provide an update on the study overall, including some early data readouts later this year. As you know, this is an update from the past quarter that these patients were enrolled relatively recently all but one in 2019.

So, it’s relatively early follow-up. But they meet criteria for the developmental quotient.

That is in general, looking at the – just as a framework and then not necessarily citing specific ages which I don’t know by heart for all the patients, but the child with the developmental quotient of 60% or greater who has either MPS IIIA or IIIB with rapid progressive phenotype tend to be usually younger than 40 months or so give or take than they tend to be younger.

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Maury Raycroft

Got it. Okay. And for IIIB also, it seems like some other companies enrolling IIIB studies have had a difficult time enrolling those studies. It seems like your enrollment has picked up recently.

Is there anything that you can say about enrollment and potentially investigator enthusiasm for your particular approach in IIIB?.

João Siffert

Yes, I think that there is good momentum on both programs, actually although IIIA we have not enrolled anyone this year yet. We have continued to screen patients who unfortunately were not eligible for the trial, and we continue to screen patients as we speak. We hope to enroll patients later this year.

IIIB, and I think IIIA both are benefiting from an effort that was started sometime last year to really expand our footprint in terms of clinical trial sites. The sites continue to be very engaged. We have also a pretty concerted international outreach.

And that's the question of whether IIIB, which tends to be viewed is less common than IIIA at least in the United States. It may not be as uncommon as we thought at least in some European countries and other places such as South America. So, we are having success identifying these patients.

I also believe that with the continued positive data in IIIA from the standpoint of maintenance of improvements in biomarkers now up to two years in CSF heparan sulfate as well as the recent data we announced in the youngest patients showing some neurocognitive preservation, I think that also creates the momentum in terms of interest that we are showing that this is not only a biologically active intervention, but also seems at this point that we can also demonstrate some preservation of actual clinical data which is important.

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Maury Raycroft

Got it. Yes.

And for IIIA, for those young and higher functioning patients that you treated and you are showing their preservation of neurocog function, can you just comment on their underlying IIIA mutation, and also the strength of the natural history data over a similar 12 to 18 month timeframe for those particular patients?.

João Siffert

Yes, so the patients by protocol eligibility, all patients need to have mutations that are associated with a rapid progress or phenotype.

So, in general, if you look at the various natural history studies including the one we’ve worked most closely with the National Veterans hospital, but can look at the Pittsburgh data and also data from University of Minnesota, albeit it was a different scale, but certainly something that we should look at because it is a pretty comprehensive data set as well.

Most children with the rapid progressive forms of MPS IIIA or IIIB for that matter tend to plateau in their neurodevelopment before they reach age of three, almost viral legacy [ph], this is biology, not sort of mathematics.

But by and large, and if you look at all these studies, most of these children accelerate in their development during their second year of life and before reach the age of three, they tend to plateau in their neuro development and start declining.

So, anything that sort of deviates from that in terms of the neuro cognitive development and in this case, following the intervention with ABO-102, we believe to be already an indication that this treatment is having a biological effect and also diverging in terms of the neuro cognitive course.

Does that answer your question?.

Maury Raycroft

Got it. Yes. That does. And just a last question on EB-101.

So, for the CMC protocol item particularly the one related to their retrovirus batch, just to be clear, you don’t need to accumulate any new data for this until after the trial has started, right? And then, I am wondering, - yes, and then, I am wondering how much of parameters involved with helping with the protocol design and finalizing the protocol for that?.

João Siffert

Well, two separate questions. So, what we are submitting to the agency, their request is the actual protocol. We are not submitting any data going ahead of the Phase 3. So, the transfer from the original retrovirus to the Brammer retrovirus which has been planned all along in agreement with the agency will take place during Phase 3.

So we will be conducting the comparability studies which are no different than the release – generally speaking, no different than the release of studies that we do quality assurance. We do for any kind of GMP product. So in this case, for EB-101.

So, we will be testing those for the Indiana University retrovirus material and testing those for the Brammer retrovirus material as if we would do anyway to – the only thing we are doing is to set up a protocol prospectively to show what the acceptance criteria are, which are generally – and already agreed upon with the agency.

So it’s literally having the protocol written. Data will be generated as we release these batches for clinical use as we would do normally. Now, we have used the Brammer material to manufacture a sheet throughout the task, say six months.

These are obviously not for clinical use, but certainly using the same retrovirus that we are impending to use in the Phase 3. So, we have experience using the retrovirus and have performed well as expected. So, we don’t anticipate any surprise here. .

Maury Raycroft

Okay.

And then, how involved is Brammer in the process for you with helping finalize these protocols?.

João Siffert

They have been a very good partner of Abeona for a while now and we work very closely with them. And we have already, so it’s forward-looking, this have taken place just part of the whole manufacturing the readiness for the EB program has included manufacturing EB-101 using the retro – Brammer retrovirus. So we’ve done this before.

This is not the first time we are going to do this. This is just going to be officially for – during the Phase 3. .

Maury Raycroft

Got it. Okay. Thank you very much for taking my questions and I’ll hop back in the queue. .

João Siffert

Sure. Thank you. .

Operator

Our next question comes from Kennen MacKay of RBC Capital. Please state your question. .

Vikram Kaushik

Hi guys. Thanks for taking all the questions. This is Vikram on for Kennen. So, we have one on the patient-related outcome that actually has to be included in the Phase 3 study for EB-101.

Could you please elaborate what those outcomes are? And how would those further validate, maybe the wound healing that you will show in the patients?.

João Siffert

Yes, thank you for your question. The patient reported outcomes, there are several – the main one being pain, especially for the larger wounds that we are addressing in our Phase 3 trial, pain is among the most disabling patient experience.

Obviously, it’s – obviously, having a – wound has also sorts of other medical implications including risk of infection and need for and need for repeat wound dressing and an extensive wound care and whatnot. But the pain is really the main cause of discomfort suffering for these patients.

So the FDA is obviously interested in understanding how wound healing and pain intersect. If you ask a patient, will tell you that their impact skin that is a healed wound doesn't hurt. And if you ask then which wound hurt the most is they firmly will tell you that there are larger wounds, smaller wounds that are not.

They can still be uncomfortable that the larger wounds tend to be ones mostly associated with a higher intensity of pain. This has been shown not only anecdotally by asking the patients but also in natural history studies that’s been presented.

So, the FDA wanted to just agree with us and exactly the timing and then how to collect those using scales that are pretty well known and it’s been validated in pain trials before. So, it was not much about the scales themselves, it is just about the collection timing in relation to some of the wound care.

Basically, wound care, as we remove the bandages, they can cause pain, because sometimes the bandages especially in the larger wounds get stuck also as you tender to the wounds and cleanse the wounds it can cause also acute pain.

So, the patients have both chronic pain from just having these open wounds chronically, but then, acute exacerbations of pain during procedures. So it was just a matter of getting coordinated and making sure we get as much information as possible.

So those – while patients are at home, but also recalling the experience when they come to the clinic visits. .

Vikram Kaushik

Got it.

Just a follow-up that is there any specific percentage of pain improvement you are looking in these patients? Or will it just depend from wound to wound depending on the size of wound? How are you thinking about that on the paid side?.

João Siffert

I am sorry. I have missed the – if you could the repeat the first part of your question, I just couldn’t hear well..

Vikram Kaushik

Absolutely.

So, just a follow-up on that, I was thinking, what percentage of improvement on the pain scales that you said are pretty standardized wound you will be looking to, will it be something similar to, as you said 50% wound healing? How shall we be thinking about that?.

João Siffert

Yes, so, this is a difficult question about EB, because there are much data for EB specifically. There is obviously a ton of data in pain, both chronic and acute pain trials within variety of conditions from cancer to neuropathic pain, and then even in migraine. But as you can imagine, there is not a lot of this for EB.

The sense that we get from talking to patients is that wound healing will essentially large relief with pain, but the pain also can be quite variable and if it's undisturbed under wraps, meaning that the wound is well-dressed and they are not touching it or cleaning it.

There is some base pain that is not that severe, of course, as we remove the wound dressing that pains by itself. So there isn't a set threshold to success. Ultimately, in the end, being sent here to heal the wound and of course, having an open large wound in of itself is clinically very meaningful.

So if you could heal a large area of wound, this in of itself will cause much benefit to the patients and all the ramifications of EB wounds. That we would expect that it will also provide different pain reliefs. So we will measure as the continuous variable, as well as the categorical variable. .

Vikram Kaushik

Got it. Got it. That is super helpful. Thanks for the color. .

Operator

Any further questions sir?.

Vikram Kaushik

That would be all. .

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joon Lee of SunTrust. Please state your question. .

Fang-Ke Huang

Hey. Thank you for taking our question. This is Fang-Ke Huang for Joon.

Just wondering on, if you can tell us a bit more about the timing of initiating the EB-101 trial? Is it going to be a early 4Q event or you can anticipate going to be a late 4Q event or is it too difficult to tell at this moment?.

João Siffert

So, we can provide any more guidance as we have already have provided publicly in our 8-K filing. Much of what remains there or the question is about quality and there was a particular question about PROs that we’ve been discussing. The timing now for initiation is entirely predicated on resolving these questions.

So, it’s largely driven by the timing of how efficiently we can communicate with the agency. On our end, we are working diligently to get all the answers submitted soon. So, it’s just a matter of ensuring that the FDA will satisfied with the answers and that if there are any remaining questions that we can address those ASAP.

From the actual trial readiness, in terms of the clinical operations and the ability to manufacture the product, we feel that we were ready as soon as the FDA is ready. Stanford does obviously been a very close partner with Abeona for three years now and they are ready and willing and eager to start so long as we get the final go ahead. .

Fang-Ke Huang

Got it. That’s helpful. And then, secondly, you mentioned that that beyond Stanford, you are potentially can open other treatment sites for the EB patients.

I am just wondering what other potential logistic of opening a site and how long you need to train their employee just starting treating patients?.

João Siffert

Sure. These are sites I have been working with already for several months now. So, this is a long lead time in terms of just getting all the trials and just to set up. But there are also sites that are very familiar with the care of the patients with EB. And also have very good standard well-qualified plastic surgery staff.

So, they would be equipped in terms of all the moving parts. So they will be fully equipped to participate in the trial and of course the team at Stanford has offered – that has had conversations with some of these sites and we would offer to help train them on the – more minutia of the actual study protocol itself.

But in terms of the capability of the caring for the EB population and in terms of the after procedure of applying the product EB-101, these will be fully qualified sites. .

Fang-Ke Huang

Okay.

And then, thirdly, I think, just in terms of the timing of the data we are going to report for – in the ABO-101, ABO-102 in the second half, are you going to present them at medical conference or standard conference or are you going to press release or are you going to host an R&D Day to present the data?.

João Siffert

All these are possibilities. We haven’t disclosed that. There is still is some of these presentations that were submitted and get approved and we’ll get confirm the presentation date and then we may – if there are updates that emerge outside of conference schedule, then we may either call a call or press release it. .

Fang-Ke Huang

Perfect. And last question, if I may.

So, you mentioned about AIM platform and then there is a number of capsids potentially can be used and you also mentioned that on the last earnings call you are – and you may discuss the potential to leverage the value of the AIM platform through external collaborations? Maybe, can you give us some updates there as you see, is there any discussions going on currently in terms of – for external collaboration? And how you think about the AIM program? And how are you going to capture that value?.

João Siffert

Yes, so, that’s good question and one that we didn’t in fact announced that we would seek partnerships. As you know, we have a very broad pipeline, both clinical pipeline and preclinical pipeline. And so, it’s a good problem to have, but we have, obviously, been careful of prioritizing our efforts on our lead products.

So, while also trying to continue to develop the AIM platform, we’ve been in discussions actually for months now with several interested parties. And these have been fruitful. We will announce in due course when we have anything that is concrete in terms of something to disclose.

But there is, obviously, interest in this platform, interest in the data that Tim and his team have generated and presented as you heard earlier and we are looking forward to continue this process. Obviously, it takes time, but we are – we’ve been active at it for quite a while now.

So, of course, some of these relationships are now maturing and we hope to have something to report in the coming months. .

Fang-Ke Huang

Perfect. Thanks so much. And thanks again for taking our questions. .

João Siffert

Sure. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Liav Abraham of Citi. Please state your question. .

Liav Abraham

Good morning. Many of my questions have been asked. Maybe just one on EB-101.

João, could you just remind us how quickly you will be able to enroll the trial? And when we could see data on the primary endpoints?.

João Siffert

Thanks, Liav. So, have in Stanford through a protocol we’ve had underway for a while now have identified and screened, formally screened I think ten patients now or eleven patients. We expect we have to enroll somewhere between ten and fifteen patients who have the number of wounds and give the power for the study.

As soon as we are ready to go, obviously, we will start carefully in the patient or two to make sure everything goes well in terms of the logistics. But after that, we could accelerate enrollment. So, it’s just a matter of scheduling patients for treatment. They are all waiting for the study.

So, we could envision enrollment first will provide updates on that, but could envision enrollment, say, six months, up to six months. We will try to do it faster, well it could be a little longer, it depends on ability to schedule. And then, the trial itself has a six months follow-up built-in.

So we – the primary endpoint of three months and we call up for an additional three months to look both at ongoing safety and healing and durability. So, that could bring us to the end of next year depending how quickly you can get this up and running. .

Liav Abraham

Great. Thank you.

And then, on your RMAT meeting with FDA in the second half of the year, can you just remind us, what are the objectives of this meeting? And do you anticipate communicating the outcome of the meeting to investors?.

João Siffert

Yes, so, you are referring now to MPS IIIA, right?.

Liav Abraham

Yes, yes, yes..

João Siffert

ABO-102. Okay, yes. So, we have now data of two plus years on safety for half of the patients, at least others are getting closer, obviously, Cohort 3 is a bit more recent.

The biomarkers have been very consistently showing that this product can improve the disease – to the underlying disease pathology that is the activity of the enzyme and clear the accumulation of heparan sulfate. And now we are having more data 12 to 18 months data in cognition for the younger children.

So, the question now is, what’s next? Right, so, that’s exactly what we are going to ask the agency for what’s the path between now and sort of moving this towards a path that can lead to - to a BLA and approval. So this is, broadly speaking the overarching question here.

This of course will cover multiple aspects of the development program including CMC, of course, clinical safety and whatnot. So, that’s what we are looking to engage the agency with. We will provide updates as they materialize.

Obviously, regulatory feedback is not something we will provide in details because, obviously, there is a whole context and once that's not often not sort of ready for press, but we do – we will provide guidance to the extent that the guidance is material and something that is actionable or not. .

Liav Abraham

Thank you. .

Operator

Any further questions, Ms.

Abraham?.

Liav Abraham

No, I am good. Thank you. .

Operator

Thank you. .

João Siffert

Thanks, Liav. .

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude today's Question-and-Answer Session. And this does conclude today’s teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a great day..

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