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Good morning. My name is Konstantin [ph] and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Energy Fuels First Quarter 2025 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session where you will be able to ask one question and one follow-up question should you desire. [Operator Instructions]. Thank you. Mr. Chalmers, you may begin your conference.

Thank you Konstantin and thank you for that introduction. Again, Mark Chalmers, I'm the CEO of Energy Fuels. We are really appreciative of people joining the Q1 2025 conference call today. And it is always a pleasure to update everyone on our remarkable progress on building the largest critical mineral company in the United States. We are also very, very pleased to announce that we've increased our 2025 production and finished goods inventory guidance by 22% and 193% respectively. And that is quite unusual because many companies are actually going the other direction at this point in time. So we are really excited about operating the guidance. We are also happy to report that we have very strong working capital position of $214 million. We continue to advance our high-grade and low-cost U.S. uranium production, including a record production in April. That was after the quarter of 151,000 pounds at an average grade of 1.64%. And I want to point out something, that it's 1.64% in a reserve zone, in the main zone, of 0.58. So the grades that we are currently mining are almost three times what we had expected in that area, so very excited about that. And we continue to advance our world-class rare earth and heavy mineral sand projects and capabilities and no debt. So there is a lot going on. Now, Kim, are they advancing their slides or are you doing it?

No, I'm doing it.

Okay, well I'll keep you queued on advancing your slides. There will be a conference replay available after the conference call is concluded on the website. And as always, as Konstantine mentioned, there will be time for questions at the end. Today I'm being joined for questions by Nate Bennett, our CFO. And we will just tag-team that as required. So let's get going in this first slide. I always say I love this slide, but I love this slide. And again, this is taken not far from where the White Mesa Mill is in Utah. Next slide. I may be making some forward-looking statements, and those are covered on page two. Next slide. Again, many of you have seen this before, but I think one of the things that people don't understand is that Energy Fuels has really got three different core businesses. We have this long history in the uranium business, as people know, and that is going remarkably well. We've added on the rare earth elements and the heavy mineral sands, so you're really getting an investment in three companies in Energy Fuels and investment in Energy Fuels. And I also want to mention that we have the current capability, or will have the capability, to commercially recover at least ten of the critical elements on the list of fifty at the White Mesa Mill. And that is a key differentiator. Next slide. And all of our products are in-demand for energy, defense, mobility, or health. Uranium, as I said, long history of doing that. Now we're in large-scale production. The rare earths, we are also the leading producer at NdPr Oxide, and we currently have a lot of that product out for validation. And we also have the technology to produce heavy rare earth oxides, which in itself is very, very unique. Heavy mineral sands, again, advancing our world-scale, world-class rare earth titanium, zirconium mineral sands projects globally, couldn't be more excited about that and vanadium. We do have a vanadium circuit. We do have vanadium mines. We're not currently recovering vanadium, even though we are producing it at the La Sal complex as we speak. And lastly, the medical isotopes, we're still forging ahead on the R&D work we have for recovering of radium. Next slide. Now, again, if you ask the question, the world is your oyster, well, Energy Fuels can obviously say that we are asset rich. When you look at the assets we have in the United States, certainly most of them are uranium, the white mesa mill, kind of in that, it's kind of a purplishly red color where we can do all this processing of these critical elements. And then when you look down in the southern hemisphere with the heavy mineral sands projects, the Bahia project, the Donald Joint Venture, our office in Perth, and the world-class, world-scale Toliara project, we have an absolutely fantastic pipeline to feed the white mesa mill in due course with a number of these critical elements going forward. Next slide. So this graphic, and we do this graphic to kind of show where the processing of these critical elements actually happens. So certainly the uranium is mined in the region and processed through the white mesa mill, and it comes out the back end as U308 or vanadium, or at the same time, or when we flip the mill over, we can process the rare earths, and the rare earths, mainly the monazite and the xenotime, can also be processed in the rare earth processing facility, which is the white mesa mill, and out comes the rare earths on the back end. The heavy mineral sands don't have to go through the mill, but they're also critical elements. But they also are recognized as such, and that's how we get a list of 10 plus. The rare earths, there are other elements that can be extracted if there's an economic reason to do so. Now, our Phase 2 plant that we're currently doing engineering work and feasibility work on will actually separate that rare earth processing step and the white mesa mill into two separate processing facilities. Next slide. Again, we continue to grow our portfolio of uranium sales contracts. We have four contracts with three nuclear utilities deliveries between 2025 and 2030. In 2025, we only have about 220,000 pounds of deliveries, and we have yet to fill those deliveries. We also have entered into an agreement to purchase third-party uranium ore from a company that is not too far from the mill. So our contracts are really light in 2025, and they ramp up to around to 800,000 or 900,000 pounds in 2026, but they are all concluded in 2030 on the current contracts that we have. Next slide. Let's talk more about the uranium highlights. And I want to emphasize that some people get confused with what we mine, what we process, the alternate feeds, and how that all fits together. So towards the end of this presentation, I have a table that I think simplifies that significantly. So when you look at the conventional mines, in Q1, we mined 115,000 pounds of unprocessed uranium, so it's uranium ore. That was from Pinyon Plain and La Sal and the Pandora mines, and that's now being stockpiled at the mill. Now, when you talk about how much we plan to mine in 2025, we've upgraded this guidance. We're looking at mining between 875,000 pounds to 1.4 million pounds of uranium, and we can process that as we select to do at the mill in due course. We're still working forward to increase our production up to about the 2 million pounds per year, subject to market conditions, but we're certainly making significant steps that direction as we speak. Now, when you look at what's processed at the White Mesa Mill, for Q1, we processed 150,000 pounds of finished goods. We're now saying that this year our guidance for finished goods processed at the mill is 700,000 to 1 million pounds, and at the same time, we have the optionality to build up inventory. And I'll go into more detail at the end to sell the uranium when the markets support that. We have taken a position to not sell uranium at $63, $64, $65 per pound, and that's a good thing, because we actually bought uranium at that price range, and we now have a uranium price that's about $70 a pound. So just in the last month or two, the price uranium, or at least on the spot price, has gone up by 10%. Next slide. So again, the White Mesa Mill and the remarkable facility that it is with both the capability to produce uranium and rare earths, and never has it been more important to have a White Mesa Mill as the only operating conventional mill in the United States. It is the largest uranium processing facility in the United States. It's fully licensed, permitted, producing, and has employees there. It has a license capacity of 8 million pounds per year. It has the ability to process and recycle uranium-bearing alternate feeds at very low cost, 40 years of operational experience. And we also have the opportunity to assist the U.S. government and the Navajo Nation on cleanup of abandoned uranium mines on the reservation that had no connection to our company. And we're really looking forward to helping the Navajo Nation on that front, hopefully this year. And it is the only facility that can process monazite for production of rare earth oxides in the United States. Next slide. So again, you've seen this slide, but it's been modified a little bit, but the current ore is coming out of the Pinyon Plain Mine, and the highest grade uranium mine in the history of the United States, and that ore is now being shipped across the Navajo Nation with our agreement. The La Sal Complex is really a complex of several mines. It's about 11 miles of trend. Ore is also being transported to the mill from the La Sal Complex. And we're also looking at refurbishing a couple other mines on the La Sal Complex. So the combination of those two projects, we plan to mine between about 55,000 tons to 80,000 tons in 2025. We're still doing drilling at Nichols Ranch, our ISR operation in Wyoming, and we'll restart that when the market supports. Next slide. Now this is an exciting slide here because Pinyon Plain is starting to hit on all cylinders, and we're currently mining the main ore body zone. And I already mentioned that in April we had record production of 151,000 pounds at the 1.64%. And I mentioned that the average grade in that zone was about 0.58, 0.59, and we're mining about 1.6. So we are getting extraordinary grades there, and we think that will equate to a larger resource reserve mine because of these extraordinary grades that we're hitting. In addition, many of you have seen that we announced exploration results on the Juniper ore zone. And the Juniper ore zone is just below that main zone, but it's only 200 feet. It's 200 feet away. And so it's very close, but look at those grades, 13 feet of 7%, 7.5 feet of 7.5%, 9.3 feet of 2%, 17.5 feet of 5.7, including 4 feet of 20%. These are grades that are unheard of in the United States, and I couldn't be happier to be reporting the success that we're having. And there will be additional drilling happening in the Juniper zone. There's still a lot of runway to continue to add, but we're going to have to drill because you can fit a lot of uranium in a very small area with those types of grades. Next slide. So this will be a bit of an experiment, but we want to take you down into the Pinyon Plain ore body, and we're going to try to show you a video. So let's take a look at the video now. [Video Playing] [indiscernible] All right, that went without any hitch, but again, just to give people an insight of the mine and again, I highlight that the grades have been averaging mined in that 1% to 2% range and again, and when you put that in perspective, that's like 2 to 4 ounces per ton gold. So this is really high-grade, high-value product that we're getting out of the Pinyon Plain mine. So let's talk a little bit more about some of the development pipeline. Again, you've seen this slide where we have the Sheep Mountain project in Wyoming, which is fully permitted, and we also have the Henry Mountain project in Utah, Bullfrog, which is in pre-permitting, but also I'm very pleased to announce that our large Roca Honda project in New Mexico, which is also underground and high-grade. But it's about a half a percent, so it's still a high-grade mine by uranium standards, but a very significant project, but it was also selected by the Trump administration on this FAST-41 covered project, so it's being recognized as a national security critical mineral project, and we're really excited to get that designation on one of our projects and our pipeline project. So we've been advancing the feasibility study on that for, or actually it's the EIS on that, and we think now is an ideal time to get that wrapped up in advance so we have another significant permitted project. Next slide. So we'll shift gears a bit and go around the world here, talk a little bit about the rare earth production and assets that we have in heavy mineral sands. Next slide. We haven't left the country yet, but you have some pictures of the solvent extraction circuit for extraction of the rare earth oxides at the White Mesa Mill. And again, this is a facility that the team at White Mesa built on their own without consultants, without people advising them. They came up with the designs for this, and they built a very significant solvent extraction facility and commissioned it for under $20 million. And I know there's companies out there that have pilot plants that are $100 million and do just a fraction of what this will do. I mean, some of these pilot plants that are pushing $100 million will do like one ton of NdPr per month. And this project, when it has enough feed will be doing like 70 or 80 tons a month. And we built it for $20 million. And also, look at the bags of NdPr oxide in bulky bags. It's not in a beaker, and we're doing it at a commercial scale. Next slide. Again, we continue to focus on integration as we step down through the supply chain there with the mining, bit of fission, crack, leach, separation. And we are still very keen to advance into the metal making and alloy steps. And I've always mentioned Deb Bennethum's working for us from General Motors. She came to work for us, and she's helping us with that back end. And she's been a great, great addition to our team to help us on that back end. And again, we'll collect the monazite from these multiple projects, including material from Chemours. So we have diversified supply and feed to the White Mesa Mill globally at scales equivalent to Linus [ph] in due course. Next slide. So also, recent news. Certainly, in March, we signed a collaboration agreement with POSCO International in South Korea on a collaboration on providing them with feed materials. We also signed a strategic alliance with Chemours in March, also collaborating on bolstering U.S. critical mineral supply chains. And then in April, we made the announcement that we have the technical capability and skills to produce six of the seven heavy rare earths subject to current China export controls. Next slide. Okay, we'll talk a bit about financials. Next slide. So again, at the end of the quarter, March 31, we continue and are producing low-cost uranium. We're developing this Tier 1 critical mineral in heavy mineral sand assets. And we're maintaining our strong balance sheet, excellent liquidity, with over $210 million of liquidity at the end of the quarter made up of cash, marketable securities, interest-bearing securities, very liquid, $20 million of trade and other receivables, and about $35 million of inventory. At current prices, you can actually increase the value of those inventories by about $12 million. At the end of the quarter, we had nearly 600,000 pounds of finished uranium. We continue to add to that. We still have vanadium inventory. We still have some rare earth inventory. And we have zero debt. Now, the net loss for Q1 of '25 was driven on a very aggressive program of advancing all these projects and also electing not to sell uranium at current prices. As I mentioned, in the first quarter, the uranium prices were languishing spot between $63 and $65. Now, they're about $70. And so by holding on to that uranium, that value of that product at the spot is 10% higher. And we really still don't have a lot of interest in selling uranium at $70 a pound. The last uranium we sold on the spot was $80 a pound. And that is kind of our goal to get back with the eight-handle on it going forward. We did sell the residual heavy mineral sand products from Kwale, ilmenite, Rutile,

Constantine?

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Katie Lachapelle from Canaccord Genuity. Please ask your question.

Hi, Mark. Thanks for taking my question. It's great to see the increase in expected uranium production for 2025. I do, however, want to focus a bit on the rare earth segment. We've seen your balance sheet improve quarter-over-quarter with some activity on the ATM. But on our numbers, we're still seeing a pretty significant gap between the projected capital costs and your current balance sheet. So how are you thinking about the potential funding stack for the Phase 2 expansion at White Mesa in addition to advancing Toliara and Donald?

Yes. Katie, as I said at the end, we're putting together a comprehensive financing strategy. We've already got some debt advisors on Toliara and Donald. We're looking at adding a significant U.S. bank to help us with that. In addition, we're making the rounds across DC with places like the DOD, XM Bank, and DOE, and all that. And as I said, we're looking at potential offtakes. There could be potential people willing to fund in some of these projects. So Katie, it's really going to be from a number of sources. Our strong balance sheet allows us to advance all these projects through this FID process to get all the accurate numbers and estimates for bankable purposes. But I do believe that when you look at the scale and the low-cost nature of what our plan and strategy is, when I talk about 50% to 100% of U.S. requirements, we will secure funding. Now, this doesn't mean it's going to be easy, and it's complicated. But we plan to have that strong balance sheet, get to these FIDs, and we're multitasking on number fronts when it comes to how we're going to finance these projects. And I want to point out, too, one thing. The Toliara project is so remarkable that it funds itself. It doesn't fund itself, but it can stand alone as a heavy mineral sand project only, without any credits for the rare earth. So it's a really significant project, really low-cost structures. But we still have a lot of work to do.

Understood. And then maybe just one unrelated follow-up. You didn't make any uranium sales in the quarter, so kind of two questions. Can you provide us with a level that would trigger you to make some additional sales into the spot market this year? And then on the cost side, there were no reported costs for this quarter. So how are your costs tracking right now, and how do you expect them to track through the remainder of this year?

Yes. As I said earlier, I really don't like to sell uranium at these prices, because I think it's below the cost of replacement. But I'd like to see something with an 8-handle on it or greater. When you look at our costs for the quarter, we're really just ramping up some of the mining. We had the delays with the ore transport across the Navajo Nation. But our most recent estimates are that the combined costs going forward and for the year are going to be between about $35 and $40 per pound, Katie.

Perfect. Thank you, Mark.

Your next question comes from the line of Heiko Ihle from H.C. Wainwright. Please ask your question.

Hi, Mark. It's actually Case [ph]sss on behalf of Heiko. How are you?

Okay. All right.

Just a quick question on Pinyon plain, seems like things are going pretty well. Could you maybe give us any color on if there's been any unforeseen supply chain issues throughout the process? And having the idea of how we're going to do that, and having the idea of how much money you plan to spend at the site during Q2?

Well, there haven't been any issues at the site since we signed the agreement with Navajo Nation. One of the issues has been just getting the trucks pulled up to haul the ore to the mill, which we're working to resolve. We indicated that for Q2, we already had this 150,000 pounds mined. And that's continuing on. I mean, I got text from the mine this morning. It's actually going higher than that. So as I said to Katie, homogenized basis, we're looking at that $35 to $40 a pound. The mine is largely developed. So a lot of the expenditures there are just focused on producing ore and shipping it to the mill. So did I cover that all for you.

Yes, that's great. And I guess to touch on the earlier question, we like seeing you buy uranium below $65 a pound. And that was a great cash balance. Do you anticipate converting any more cash into inventory, Q2, and beyond? And is there possibly a mental maximum price for doing so?

I wish I'd bought more at $64. But yeah, we're going to just play it by ear. I mean, if we're giving our going forward costs at $35 to $40, that kind of gives you an idea of what we can put it in a drum, finished goods. But again, we're going to always look at mix and match. And if we think we can pick up some product at a price that we can turn around and sell, we'll consider that.

Thank you. Great color. Appreciate it. That's it for me.

Your next question comes from the line of Justin Chan from SCP Resource Finance. Please ask your question.

Good morning, Mark and team. Thanks for hosting the call. My first one regarding just reading through your 10-Q, you noted that part of the logic for bringing forward uranium processing is you're thinking of doing a rare earth processing campaign next year or bringing up the mill for circuit changes. I was wondering if you could just give us more color on what your current thoughts are for next year on the rare earth side of things and what are the key moving parts?

Yes, well, exactly. As I said, if we have this inventory, we can elect on how to process uranium or rare earths. I mean, so our thoughts is to go ahead and build up our inventory, which we can do very quickly with the product out there to process. Have this other inventory that we can process later with the switch over the mill if we need to. And then looking at in 2026, we're still getting material from Chemours, but we're also looking at other sources of feed of monazite. And right now, we're getting a lot of inbounds from the US government saying, what can you produce rare earths now? What can you produce now? And you know what? We're the only ones that can produce now if we want to. And in addition to our ability to also do these heavy rare earths, we're trying to position ourselves so we can show that we have this incredible flexibility. That this flexibility allows us to be and produce whatever they may need. And if they need samarium or whatever, we can actually do that. We can't just wiggle our nose and do it, but give us a few months or six months and some support, and we have remarkable flexibility on that. So Justin, this gives us that opening to be able to do either. I mean, if we decide we want to keep producing uranium, we'll do it. If we want to switch over to rare earths, we'll do it.

Got you. So maybe just reading between the lines, probably the key determinant right now is perhaps some signal from the government absent a huge price response or NdPr or something like that?

Yes, I think that's correct. I mean, if we get a signal from the government, we want to say we're going to deliver in the United States, in Utah.

Got you. And on Toliara, could you give us an update on how things are going in country and I guess what the next 12 months looks like between now and FID in terms of so we can track progress over the next four quarters?

Look, I've got Tim Carstens here. Tim, calling you on the spot here. Okay, he's here. I might as well bring him in.

Good question with that notice. Hi, Justin.

Hey, Tim. Speaking of Toliara.

Yes, exactly. Yes, so there's three key focuses at the moment in Toliara. One is, as Mark mentioned earlier, it's finalizing the agreements to lock in the fiscal terms with government, and that's all making good progress. The government's amending its large mine investment regime at the moment in good consultation with us, so I'm comfortable with the direction that's taking. On ground, we're doing a lot of work with governments on, I guess, community, I won't say sensitization, but more just sort of making sure that we've got full community on side, we've got the various, I guess, engagement and dialogue structures in place, tripartite dialogue structures between ourselves, government and communities to make sure any issues are addressed adequately, that we avoid the influence of the opponents of the project that aren't really motivated around the project, but as you know from the past, have attempted to use the project as, I guess, a football for their own objectives. So we've been working really closely with the government in managing that, got a really good position, excuse me, on that now, and on-ground work is now starting to happen as we head towards FID. So that being one of the challenges we've experienced over the last five years is well in hand now. On the project side, there's quite a lot of work that needs to be done over the next 12 months or so as we head towards the FID, quite a bit of geotechnical drilling that needs to be done, particularly in relation to the bridge and the port facility. They're kind of long lead time items for that. We're busily building the team at the moment. As you know, with our approach is to bring on a lot of the operational people early and embed them in the project. So people like our GM operations are already in place and they're starting to assemble their team to sort of drive our input in project execution, so that's coming together quite well. Quite a significant spend over the next 12 months as you would expect for a project of this scale. So yes, at this stage we're well on track for an FID as Mark said in the first half of next year.

Got you. And is there a plan to kind of put out updated CapEx and I guess high level economics and roughly went along that timeline? Do you think that would be?

Yes, we're in the process of completing that now. The intent is to release a full updated DFS in, I think its due in June, maybe early July, which will sort of form the basis of the next phase of execution of the project. So that'll get released to the market with a full update, and also for the basis of the debt funding. So that'll become the debt funding model.

Okay, that's June, early July this year, like in a couple of months?

Yes, yes, a couple of months. We're in the final stages of that now.

Okay, got you. Thanks very much. All right, thanks very much. I'll flip the line and rejoin if I have any more questions. Thank you.

Thank you, Tim.

Your next question. I'm sorry, your next question, sir, comes from the line of

Hi Mark, thanks for the question. Quick question on the rare earth side. At scale and how you've defined that, what is your cost structure relative to other projects around the world? Obviously if you have the feed stocked and you look at the future, what would you be your cost structure? Not just in the United States, but relative to other projects around the world?

Yes, we're finishing all of our studies. But at scale, we believe we're going to be, if we're not the lowest cost, we're going to be the second lowest cost in the world, is what we believe. Okay? Now how China fits in. But certainly outside of China, we're going to be low cost producer and we will be producing in the United States. And a lot of that is driven on the fact that the contribution of these various projects, particularly Toliara, with the scale of Toliara and the low cost structures of Toliara is going to provide us with a supply of monazite, significant, about half of the mills capacity of, and it could be more in due course if we want to upgrade it, effectively for free. So that's a pretty good start,

Yes, so it sounds like you're very low cost without the Toliara and you basically get almost free feedstock assuming Toliara is profitable on heavy mineral sands on its own. Is that a way of thinking about it?

Yes, it becomes a counting exercise how you want to account for it. But yes, no, these pieces, as you said, at scale. And that's a big part is at scale because I mean, Phase 1 is at the mill is about a thousand tons of NdPr per year. The expanded Phase 2 is 6X that, right? So that makes a difference in terms of the fixed variable cost in terms of how you go forward, so.

Got it.

Just coming back to your point about the free monazite, I mean, Toliara, just as a mineral sand project, so completely excluding any monazite revenue in terms of revenue to cash cost ratio, it's about four to one revenue to cash cost. It's pretty much the most profitable mineral sand operation in all -- profitable mineral sand operation in the world, excluding monazite. So that's one of the real strengths of that as a project and how it contributes to a relatively low risk way for Energy Fuels to develop rare earth capability relative to anybody else because you've just got that protection.

All right, now it makes a lot of sense. So with that, assuming the U.S. government wakes up and if they're going to get in a trade war with China, would want to get your project up and running, how quickly could you get a separate REE line up and running assuming if the government showed up and said, do it tomorrow? What's the timeframe actually get up and running if you have full funding and everything?

Yes, well, Phase 1, couple months, okay. That'll do it in NdPr and we're currently piloting the Dy and Tb. We've been telling the government that some of these specialty products, if they want a one or two or three, it probably take us six to 12 months, but we are looking at like a Phase 1B, which is the addition of other circuits to recover some of these other products if the government wants them, that we can provide them with a custom built solution for that. When it comes to the Phase 2 mill, we've been talking about Phase 2 rare earth plant of having that up and running in 2028 and that's kind of where it is on the current scale, but it isn't impossible to think that the government might not want to fast track that, but we also have to make sure that that ties in with the mines and when these mines are up and producing. So, there's a little bit of a juggling. One thing that's kind of interesting is there are sources of monazite out there in the world that people are looking at sending to us because they believe it makes a lot of sense for them to send it to White Mesa. So, we're still exploring some of those options and opportunities so that we have larger run of rare earths and being able to, again, process the rare earths at the mill or the uranium and being flexible. So, yes, we're kind of just keeping our options open on how we go,

Great, thanks. Yes, I mean, it looks incredibly exciting. It's a fast timeframe without a push by the U.S. government, but if I was in the U.S. government, I'd be pushing towards go faster. So, it looks pretty interesting. Thanks, guys.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Noel Parks from Tuohy Brothers Investment Research. Please ask your question.

Hi, good morning. So, I just wanted to check back on the Navajo Nation cleanup. So, the process of unlocking the dedicated funds for that, is that something that would involve any financial commitment from Energy Fuels and capital or operating side? And so, just wondering about the scale of it. Is it just a few thousand in G&A or something larger?

Yes, the agreement that we did with Pinyon Plain, we agreed to 10,000 tons. We'd haul it and take it for free with the option that can be expanded later on. There really is no capital investment required. But there is, last I checked, there was about $2 billion in trust for the Navajo Nation to clean those sites up. And so, one of our goals working with Navajo Nation, we put out this offer for the free material so that they can be comfortable and see how it actually works. And so, there's no cost to us. We can take it right now. And we'll probably start taking some of that material, that 10,000 tons this year. It's really about them deciding which site would they like us to take it from. Again, that material can change uranium. We can process it, we get free feed. Well, the initial 10,000 tons, we're hauling it to the mill. So, there's a number of different ways this can roll out. We have had, with the new administration, discussions with the EPA and the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Navajo Nation. And they are keen about working with Energy Fuels. Keen because they know we can do it right now, like a lot of things right now. And there's not been a lot of action on the Navajo Nation on this cleanup. And this is just a perfect way that we can work with the Navajo Nation with this ore haulage contract. They can see how the ore is hauled across the Navajo Nation. And also, they can see the good we can do helping them with some of these cleanups that have been stagnant for 50 years.

Great, thanks for the clarification. And talking about the potential catalyst of the government deciding it does want to move forward with some of the minerals that you could produce. Do you have any sense of sort of the interaction when it comes to looking for, I guess, funding overall for the various projects in the company? Because I think of, you know, government financing in good terms, but tends to move slow. And I mean, is it possible that there could be sort of like a larger package that could, you know, help with white mesa, help with the critical minerals there, help with Toliara, or do I really need to think of them as just sort of entirely separate, you know, thrusts?

We're actively talking to the U.S. government on every front right now, multiple groups. And we're making proposals to the U.S. government on multiple fronts. They can be large or they can be small. And I mean, we want to, you know, tap into whatever makes sense, but you're right. A lot of the government funding takes time and is slow. So you've got to look at the balance between commercial options, government options, how those fit together, how prescriptive they are and getting those funds. I know there's a number of different variables, but no, we're actively working with the U.S. government and providing them options, just as I've discussed in this presentation. And if it makes sense, we're there to deliver.

Great, thanks a lot.

[Operator Instructions]. Your next question comes from the line of Richard White, Private Investor, please ask your question.

Hello, Mark. You mentioned...

How are you?

I'm doing pretty good, Mark. You mentioned you have a or purchase contract with a third party in the region of the White Mason Mill. I was wondering, are you, do you have, or are you anticipating a buying schedule for the other small miners in the region who could get into production?

Yes, Rick, first of all, good to hear your voice. Well, and it's no secret that Western has put out a press release that we're buying their or. What we find, and you can appreciate this, that going back 20, 30, 40 years, there were a lot of mines that could feed into a buying schedule, and now there aren't that many. So we've kind of taken the approach that if somebody has a mine that's fully permitted in compliance, just come visit us, right? And see what they've got. We want to know the quantities and the grade, and we'll just kind of work out a special arrangement if it makes sense to us to go forward. So to put out a blanket buying schedule, there's so few people, it's too difficult because the variables like the grade and even the metallurgy in some cases, is it uranium, vanadium ore, what is it? But yes, if somebody has a mine, I would say give us a ring, give Curtis a ring, and we'll see what can be worked out or not.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Chalmers for closing comments. Sir, please go ahead.

Yes, well, again, thank you everyone who joined this call or listens to the replays in the next few days. Exciting time for Energy Fuels. These pieces are starting to come together on multiple fronts, but I also want to say that some people have questioned our conviction to the uranium business, and I think that the numbers that are starting to come out with our uranium production and the scale and the cost show that we're not out of the uranium business. We still have a lot of work to do. Pinyon Plain Mine, which I built in 1987, took 38 years to go from when I built it to getting that ore to the pad at White Mesa is really paying dividends. And as I said, I think the highest grade uranium project I've seen in my career. Dick, if you're still listening, I know we worked at the Schwarzwälder [ph], which had some high grades too, but not at this kind of scale. So yes, it's exciting time and we're pulling it together. And I think we couldn't be in a better place with the critical mass we have. We're not a pretender. We're out there to deliver an outcome that's extraordinary. Thank you.