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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q1
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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the YETI Holdings Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tom Shaw. Please go ahead, sir..

Thomas Shaw

Good morning, and thanks for joining us to discuss YETI Holdings' First Quarter 2023 results. Leading the call today will be Matt Reintjes, President and CEO; and Mike McMullen, CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call for your questions.

Before we begin, we'd like to remind you that some of the statements that we make today on this call may be considered forward-looking, and such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements.

For more information, please refer to the risk factors detailed in our most recently filed Form 10-Q and the Form 8-K filed with the SEC today. We undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements made today as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law.

Unless otherwise stated, our financial measures disclosed on this call will be on a non-GAAP basis. We use non-GAAP measures as we believe they more accurately represent the true operational performance and underlying results of our business.

Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in this morning's press release and can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website at YETI.com. And now I would like to turn the call over to Matt..

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. YETI is off to a good start to 2023 as we continue to drive demand globally for our branded products. We delivered top and bottom-line results that put us on pace for our full year financial commitments. Our team did a tremendous job driving focus on our brand and innovation.

In addition, we are pleased with the design improvements on the products impacted by our voluntary product recall solidifying our plans to return new and improved versions of these products to the market in Q4 of this year. Looking at a few of the financial highlights.

Sales increased 3% for the quarter, which, as previously highlighted, were negatively impacted by both the voluntary recall and the expected slow pace of orders in the North American wholesale channels.

Mike will provide more color on the sales impact of the recalled product, but we were pleased overall with our ability to post growth for the period in Coolers & Equipment, supported by the performance of our portfolio of products including our non-impacted soft coolers and the success of our expanded GoBox cargo line.

On the Drinkware side, sales met our expectations with 3% growth led by sustained strength in Rambler bottles and the expanded introduction of newer products, including our Tumbler, Straw lid and our new Yonder water bottle. By channel, DTC was up 7% as we saw growth across both customer acquisition and retention.

Wholesale declined just 1% for the period. As we communicated in our Q4 call, wholesale inventory within our North American partners was above expectations to start the year and continued to improve as we progressed through the quarter, paced by sell-through.

However, upcoming quarters will have some continued sell-in headwinds particularly given the introductions of the 2 very successful soft coolers introduced last year that are part of the active recall.

We started to see positive year-over-year gross margins for the first time since the second quarter of 2021, reflecting the initial impact of lower container costs flowing through the income statement.

We also remain committed to investing in YETI during the period and will do so throughout 2023, leaning into strategic areas of growth as we see continued global opportunity for the brand and our products.

Before a deeper review of our strategic priorities, I wanted to highlight 3 areas of the business that demonstrate both how we are executing in the near term while also setting the foundation for how we continue to scale over the long term.

First, and as mentioned, we are on track to reintroduce improved versions of the 3 voluntarily recalled products back to market in the fourth quarter. The team worked tirelessly to redesign and validate a new solution.

We officially started production of finished goods this month and will spend the coming months ramping production and delivery of these new products. In parallel and importantly, we are also planning to expand the range of offerings of these incredibly well-received products, and we expect these will also be introduced later this year.

I'm incredibly proud of the diligence of our collective team who prioritize the safety of our consumers and the quality of our products and developing a solution. We've also used this experience to positively impact our overall processes to inform future product development.

Second, we continue to make significant progress against our strategic efforts to drive supply chain diversification across our categories. Drinkware has historically been a challenge to this progress as the vacuum-insulated stainless steel industry has been highly concentrated in China.

Over the past few years, we worked closely with our existing partners to find ways to streamline and automate steps in the production process to create supplier portability. The result of these efforts is that we have recently begun production of some of our core volume SKUs for Rambler 20 and a new advanced factory outside of China.

These moves are thoughtful, well-planned and evolutionary, demonstrating both the strength of our supplier partnerships and the willingness to invest in more transformative supplier solutions. Finally, we continue to drive circularity of more YETI products with over 70% of our product portfolio now in the scope of circularity programs.

Last quarter, we mentioned the introduction of YETI rescues, our pilot resale program on YETI.com to extend the life of return or slightly used coolers. In April, we debuted our Rambler buyback program exclusively at our YETI retail locations where customers can trade in and recycle their drinkware for in-store credit.

We will continue to learn from these pilot programs to understand how they can extend deeper across our omnichannel over time. These are directly supporting our ongoing efforts to keep the wild, wild. And we believe these programs can be additive to our customer acquisition and retention efforts.

Now shifting deeper into our strategic growth priorities. Our focus on global partnerships in new and existing communities was on full display in Q1.

As we mentioned during our last quarterly update, we kicked off our partnership with the World Surf League in Oahu and have since supported the league across the globe at the Rip Curl Pro Portugal in March and the 60th anniversary competition at the Rip Curl Pro Bells Beach in Australia in April.

This partnership remains an incredible opportunity to engage with new global customers while helping to protect and conserve the world's oceans through our support of the WSL, we are one ocean initiative.

In March, YETI headlined the second leg of the 2023 natural selection tour at Revelstoke in British Columbia, creating engagement opportunities both on and off the mountain, including events benefiting 2 of our conservation partners, sea, trees and protect our winters.

The event culminated with a sold-out YETI film night hosted by our snowboarding ambassador, Travis Rice, win at the competition. Later that month, the team headed to Switzerland to The Freeride World Tour, where YETI was the headline sponsor for the series final event in Verbier.

This year, our activation included on-site product engraving, hosting the welcome party and bringing YETI culinary ambassador, Nick Weston to cook in a live event for the crowd.

To end Q1, the Formula One champion, Oracle Red Bull racing team, announced YETI as their team's official Cooler and Drinkware, capping an incredible quarter of global engagement and activations. We remain committed to how we serve both new and existing communities locally.

For instance, we continue to drive impactful interactions in our heritage fishing communities at core events like Bassmaster Classic in Knoxville.

We also supported newer communities such as skate as we served as a hydration partner for the second year in a row at the Phoenix Amateur in Arizona and supported the USA Climbing team, Olympic Trials in our hometown of Austin, Texas. We also recently kicked off support for a specialty VIP program with Metallica as they begin their M72 World Tour.

This is classically YETI partnership of organic integration and support, utilizing our Alpine yellow Drinkware to match the key color of the tour. The tour opened with a show in Amsterdam this month and will tour Europe before coming to the U.S. and then back to Europe over the next 2 years.

In addition to executing these engaging brand initiatives, impactful product marketing remains key to differentiating our premium portfolio. Our cohesive multi-medium execution of the expanded GoBox collection is a great example here.

Anchored by our overarching, what goes here, goes anywhere, tagline, we leveraged a 32nd hero film and our packed ambassador, Social Series, to show how pros use our products. Then we launched our CraigsLost Campaign, which helped turn Craig's list gear losers into surprise and delight GoBox winners.

After Craig's list for stories of items lost in a wild, we enlisted our ambassadors to help replace lost gear while promoting the durability and organizational capabilities of our GoBox line.

As we shift to our product focus for the first quarter, we prioritized launching our normal cadence of new products while executing on the solution for the voluntary recall products.

Though the recall removed 2 of our key soft coolers in the market for most of the quarter, strong performance in our Hopper Flip lines supported overall Coolers & Equipment category growth and reinforced our leadership position.

As Mike will discuss, this comparison will be more difficult in the second and third quarters as we lap the bulk of last year's introduction of our anchor M20 and M30 Soft Coolers. In Hard Coolers, revenues were down for the period, primarily reflecting less sell-in at wholesale even as sell-through remained positive.

As we move into cooler season for moms, dads, grads in the beginning of summer, we have amplified our on-the-go story lines now that the Roadie 48 and 60 Wheeled Coolers are available across our omnichannel. Regarding cargo, I've already mentioned the success of the GoBox launch, where early demand exceeded expectations.

This is a category where we will continue to invest in product innovation and build out across our wholesale footprint. Rounding out the highlights in Coolers & Equipment, we continue to see solid growth in bags where we remain focused on pace distribution decisions to continue building awareness and consideration.

In Drinkware, we saw growth for the period within the range of our expectation. The hydration story has emerged as a key driver of the broader category this year, which we believe is supported by our continued strength and performance across our Rambler bottle line and Straw lid tumblers.

We have also supported this trend with the recent full channel expansion of our Straw lid mugs and our Yonder water bottles. The mugs have already become some of our top performing SKUs at wholesale and our color customization for Yonder just launched for the first time on YETI.com last month.

Drinkware innovation will continue throughout the year and includes more premium category offerings, expanded bottle options and newer entries that will extend how we think beyond individual use products.

This kicked off with the recent debut of our Rambler beverage and ice bucket expanding YETI into new categories of outdoor entertaining and group dining occasions. We will continue to push the innovation story in 2023 and beyond as we bring additional product to market and set up future product family expansion underneath the YETI brand, Halo.

Brand and product come together in our go-to-market and how we reach consumers around the globe when and where they want to shop. This is central to our belief in the importance and balance of wholesale and DTC channels to market.

To support this direction and elevate our responsiveness to consumer needs, we recently announced the full alignment of our commercial channels under our Chief Commercial Officer. This allows for the uniqueness of each channel, but also the incredible opportunity for knowledge sharing. We are already seeing the benefits of this new structure.

At the highest level, this ensures we are positioned to deliver consistent, high-impact experiences wherever we interact with our customers or consumers. This starts at YETI.com, where we are elevating the consumer experience in amplifying product positioning.

We are growing how we merchandise our product categories in even more relevant and effective ways. As an early example, our all-day drinkware positioning provides a perfect YETI solution as customers wake up, set out and wind down. We'll continue to build upon this storytelling format in more categories and geographies.

We also further differentiated our site through better visibility of our used gear offerings as well as the debut of the Yonder color customization. Overall, we are seeing balanced acquisition and retention growth of our e-commerce customers but believe we can build upon these trends as we continue to differentiate this experience.

In our other channels, Amazon remained strong, particularly with improved inventory positioning. Corporate sales continue to post solid growth on top of a very strong gain throughout 2022 as we continue to leverage the range and diversity of our account base.

And in YETI retail, we opened our first location in the year in 14th overall just outside of Omaha, Nebraska, which is already off to a fantastic start. On the wholesale side, we have seen positive sell-through despite the more tepid sell-in environment, resulting in inventory levels that have improved since the start of the year.

Some caution remains in the channel, combined with the tougher soft cooler comparisons that will keep growth pressure in the near term, but we continue to have positive and productive conversations with our accounts and remain encouraged with our success in elevating our positioning and merchandising with our partners. Switching to international.

Mix reached a new high of 16%, up from 13% last year. This increase was partially attributed to the outsized domestic impact of the recall and wholesale sell-in, strong growth was once again posted in our big 3 international markets.

We remain on track with some evolutions in our global supply chain as we transition our distribution centers in Europe, Australia and the U.K. Each of these locations will position the brand for scale and speed to market, while also beginning to expand our still nascent but high-demand customization efforts outside the U.S.

In Canada, we are continuing our efforts to build out broader customization capabilities in the market. We see the potential to drive strong growth in this market and see ongoing opportunities to sharpen how we go to market and localize our engagement.

Australian growth remains outstanding as the brand continues to be supported by some of our newer partnerships, including the 2 WSL events we hosted this quarter and a launch activation at the Australian Grand Prix to highlight our new partnership with Oracle Red. Finally, we continue to see tremendous opportunities and excitement in Europe.

From launching YETI product at a skate store in the U.K. with Ambassador Geoff Rowley, debuting our YETI European Instagram page at the end of the quarter or launching our newest sales channel with Amazon Europe, we are creating a foundation to unlock the brand across the continent.

Before I turn to Mike for the financial details of the quarter, as you may have seen, Tracey Brown has elected to step down from our Board of Directors. I'm incredibly grateful to Tracey for her 3 years of impact serving YETI.

And on behalf of everyone at YETI, I want to thank her and wish her well and the amazing opportunity she has in front of her at Walgreens. In closing, YETI remains well positioned for 2023. I'm proud of how we have collectively rallied to execute on our growth agenda.

We have already expanded the scope of our product assortment, driven global brand awareness through new partnerships, made steps to scale our international foundation and establish circularity programs to drive our long-term commitment to the wild.

On top of this, we are excited to have the soft coolers coming back in the market later this year and how these build upon the innovation story to be a platform for future growth. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mike..

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Europe, Australia and Canada. Gross profit increased 4% to $161 million or 53% of sales compared to 52.7% in the same period last year. We were pleased to return to gross margin expansion for the first time since the second quarter of 2021, which was primarily supported by a 220 basis point benefit from inbound freight.

Our gross margins are starting to benefit from the lower container rates that we began paying last year. Though as a reminder, we also lapped a comparable 220 basis point impact from onetime freight true-ups during the prior year period.

The overall freight tailwind was partially offset by 100 basis points from higher product cost, 50 basis points from unfavorable foreign currency exchange rates and 40 basis points from all other impacts. SG&A expenses for the quarter increased 19% to $139 million or 45.9% of sales compared to 39.8% in the same period last year.

Non-variable expenses increased 400 basis points as a percent of sales. As planned, increased investments were broad-based across areas such as global talent, demand creation and our supply chain footprint.

Variable expenses increased 210 basis points as a percent of sales, primarily reflecting higher distribution and logistics costs, including higher Amazon marketplace fees. Operating income decreased 43% to $22 million or 7.2% of sales compared to 13% during the same period last year.

Net income decreased 46% to $16 million or $0.18 per diluted share compared to $0.32 in the prior year period. Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the first quarter with $168 million in cash compared to $100 million in the year ago period. Inventory decreased 16% to $347 million year-over-year.

Inventory declined sequentially for the third straight quarter down another $24 million for a cumulative reduction of over $140 million from peak levels. Total debt, excluding unamortized deferred financing fees and finance leases, was $84 million compared to $107 million at the end of last year's first quarter.

During the quarter, we made principal payments of $6 million. Now turning to our fiscal 2023 outlook. First, we wanted to acknowledge that we are giving more color than we have in prior years due to the unusual nature of this year given the voluntary recall.

We continue to expect full year sales to increase between 3% and 5% compared to fiscal 2022 adjusted net sales. We also continue to expect roughly flat sales over the first 3 quarters of the year in aggregate, including a low single-digit decline in sales for the second quarter, followed by an approximately flat growth rate for the third quarter.

While we continue to feel confident in our ability to deliver the full year, there are some dynamics that will impact our growth rate on a quarter-to-quarter basis.

First, the impact of the stop sale of recall products will have a bigger impact on our growth in the second and third quarters as those products became more widely distributed in the prior year periods. We estimate that impact to be approximately 900 basis points in both quarters.

In addition, we expect more normalized fourth quarter buying patterns for the holiday season after some of the earlier ordering that we saw in the third quarter last year. As a result of these factors, we expect the following as it relates to growth by channel and category for the rest of the year.

We expect low double-digit declines in the Coolers & Equipment category for the second and third quarters and then for strong growth to reemerge for the category in the fourth quarter. Drinkware growth is expected to improve as we move into the back half of the year, supported by a healthy slate of planned product introductions.

By channel, wholesale is also expected to decline low double digits the next 2 quarters before returning to growth in the fourth quarter. Again, this partially reflects the increased negative impact from the voluntary recall and the expected timing of the replacement products.

On the DTC side, we expect growth to build stronger as we move through the year and continue to see DTC mix reaching approximately 60% for the year. Importantly, these combined factors keep us on track to return to double-digit growth during the fourth quarter, supported by the launch of a newly designed slate of soft cooler products.

Looking at margins, we are increasingly confident in delivering our 2023 gross margin target of approximately 55%, up from 52.7% in fiscal 2022.

With container rates down nearly 80% from peak levels, we continue to see the favorable impact of lower inbound freight costs working through our income statement and driving sequentially higher year-over-year margin expansion throughout the balance of the year.

In addition, while product costs were unfavorable in the first quarter, we expect their impact to be neutral to slightly positive for the full year. With SG&A, we remain resolute in investing across our business in 2023.

We continue to expect SG&A dollar growth in the mid-teens range equating to approximately 400 basis points of deleverage for the year. As we laid out last quarter, this impact is driven by areas such as variable costs and ongoing investments in our business.

In addition, the voluntary recall is also having an impact on SG&A leverage due to lower sales growth. With regard to timing, we expect a higher growth rate of SG&A in the first half of the year as opposed to the second half, and we'll continue to evaluate incremental investment opportunities in the event of gross margin upside.

We reiterate our operating margin range of 15% to 15.5% for the full year. In the second quarter, we expect a year-over-year margin decline that is slightly less than what we saw in the first quarter.

However, we continue to expect over 20% operating margins in the fourth quarter due to both an expected return to double-digit revenue growth and continued gross margin gains. Our assumptions for interest and tax expense are unchanged, yielding full year adjusted earnings per diluted share of between $2.12 and $2.23, compared to $2.36 in fiscal 2022.

This is inclusive of a $0.30 to $0.35 estimated impact from the stop sale of products included in the voluntary recall. Looking at Cadence, we expect adjusted earnings declines to ease year-over-year in the next two quarters before returning to strong growth in the fourth quarter.

On the cash side, we feel good about our inventory balance and how we have managed it down over the past 3 quarters. We expect to end the year close to where we ended Q1, but we'll also be opportunistic with our purchases as we go through the year.

Our capital expenditures target remains at approximately $60 million given incremental investments across a number of key initiatives, including technology, expanded customization capabilities, retail openings and product expansion. These factors contribute to an unchanged free cash flow assumption of $100 million to $150 million for the year.

Overall, we are off to a good start to the year, particularly as our team continued to diligently manage the voluntary recalls while still making progress on our underlying strategic priorities.

This focus and execution keeps us well positioned to deliver our financial outlook for the year even as we continue to be prudently cautious in this uncertain environment. We remain excited by our product lineup including our ability to bring back and even expand on the products impacted by the voluntary recall.

Our visibility to gross margin improvements remain strong as we drive sequentially better results throughout the year, and we continue to make key investments that support our global expansion in the year ahead. Now I would like to turn the call back over to the operator to take your questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from Sharon Zackfia from William Blair..

Sharon Zackfia

I guess there's been concern about the health of the Drinkware business, particularly given some competitive activity. And certainly, the rate of growth [indiscernible] we've seen really since kind of the peak pandemic quarter.

So can you talk about the Drinkware business and how you feel the brand is faring there relative to some of the competition that's expanding distribution rapidly and talk about potentially your customer demographic and whether -- or I guess, how the Drinkware segment is with a younger female demographic?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, for the question. I'd take it from a color perspective. Obviously, we mentioned on the call that we've seen the market expansion that's happening in Drinkware and the growth. And we think all those dynamics and that focus on the category is actually plays really well into our Drinkware portfolio strategy.

And when you think about kind of how YETI goes to market, we go to market with a broad-based portfolio of Drinkware. We combine that with our customization, personalization business.

We continue to address more drinking occasions and more drinking moments as we talked about on the call, the all-day Drinkware where we want to be with people when they wake up until when they go to bed. We want to be with them every day.

And so when you watch how we've built out our product portfolio, we're addressing multiple use cases, multiple consumer groups.

We're leveraging form factors, sizes, colorways, and then the global opportunity, and we think about the success we've had in building this Drinkware business in the United States since 2014 and the global growth opportunity, not only the one that we're realizing, but the opportunity in front of us. We think it's an incredibly exciting category.

It's also, as we mentioned on the last call, something that offers an opportunity for us as a platform for expansion. So you noticed the recent bucket that fits along with the use occasions along with our -- what we call our individual kind of drinkware consumption.

And then within Drinkware, the expansion into hydration and -- further expansion into hydration and bottles, further expansion into tumblers, further expansion into different straw lid formats. So we feel good about the business, and we feel good about where we're going with our Drinkware portfolio and our Drinkware strategy..

Operator

The next question comes from Joseph Altobello from Raymond James..

Joseph Altobello

I guess first question, you mentioned sell-through was up in the quarter.

Could you quantify for us how much it was up maybe overall and excluding the recall products?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Joe. So we don't typically give specific color around sell-through other than to say we were pleased with the growth that we saw across both categories. The other thing I'd say is we have to remember that the sell-through reporting, we have good sell-through reporting in the U.S., but we have less so outside the U.S.

So -- and to sort of like quantify the impact of our business would be mixing sell-through and sell-in. So a little difficult to quantify how big of an impact that it did have.

But other than to say we were pleased with the growth that we saw, we feel like it's put us in a good channel inventory position and that it was really across the portfolio despite what was going on with the recall..

Joseph Altobello

Okay. Well, that was my follow-up question, which is it sounds like you're in a good spot from an inventory standpoint.

So are we done with the destocking at least at this point?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Well, I don't know that I would have characterized it so much as a destocking and more about just caution from our wholesale channel partners that we saw coming out of the holidays. But -- and we expect some of that to continue as we head into Q2 and a relatively peak period for us.

But I think the key message is we feel good about where our channel inventory is. I mean you're always going to have some parts where you've maybe got too much of some product and not enough of others, and we've got -- we'll see that -- and right now is no different.

But we feel good about where we are, and we're continuing to work with our wholesale channel partners on as we go through the year..

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Benedict from Baird..

Peter Benedict

Mike, it sounded like obviously very confident around the gross margin. But a willingness to maybe reinvest some of that upside if it accrues over the year. Just curious kind of what you would do, you're already spending on initiatives this year.

Just curious where you might turn up the dial of investment in the event that you have some profits to do that with?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Peter, thanks for the question. So like you said, we feel good about where gross margins landed in Q1. We feel like we're on the right track to land the 55% that we guided for the year. In the event that we do see upside to their -- to that, I think you'll see it will just be more of the same types of things that we've talked about.

It's really about setting us up for growth next year, given the opportunity that we see in front of us, particularly outside the U.S. And so I think it will be in things -- it will be in areas such as raising brand awareness outside the U.S., our global teams, technology to take some of the capabilities we have here in the U.S.

and expanding them globally. So I don't know that it will be anything widely different. It will be just further investment in the things that we've already talked about..

Peter Benedict

Okay. That makes sense. And then I guess with respect to the reintroduction of the recall items and then the 2 new items, I mean, production is already underway. Just not sure how that compared to maybe your expectations when you embarked on this.

Just curious if you can give us a little more color in terms of the timing of when you expect to have these products back in the market. How you expect to support them with your marketing, et cetera? Just so we kind of have an idea of how this is expected to play out in the back half of the year..

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Peter, Matt here. What I think I would kind of take this from a couple of different perspectives.

One is we're incredibly excited to be back in production and have literally completed some finished goods, so that we're starting to build that capacity in that inventory back up and then it will -- we have all the logistics and getting it ready to be back in the market.

What we said on the call was we're still committed to being back into the market in Q4.

That's as of today, what we're sticking to, but we feel good about the work that's gone into building the solution by an incredibly focused team and really a short amount of time to go from problem identification or opportunity identification to being back into production and finished goods rolling off the line.

As we think about the reintroduction, our intent today is that we'll reintroduce it, with the marketing levers that we usually do when we kind of promote a product or get a product out in front of the consumer.

We don't intend because this was a component change to a product to reintroduce it like it's a new product, but really just turn up the YETI marketing dials, the incredible stuff our marketing or brand team does to create awareness and find interesting ways to get it in front of consumers to reintroduce the product almost as if it went from out of stock to back in stock.

And where we can kind of put our hand on the lever a little bit to create that awareness makes us feel good about the opportunity, not only in Q4, but really building into 2024 as we think about not only is the product coming back to market, but that is coming back to market with new sizes.

And then over time, we'll bring additional color ways in and be back up and rolling in a really important strategic category for us..

Operator

The next question comes from Robbie Ohmes from Bank of America..

Robert Ohmes

Matt, I actually have a couple of questions. The first was just the -- on the wholesale channel, you mentioned that some caution in the channel.

What are you hearing back from the wholesale partners right now? Like what are -- what's their outlook on the customers?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Robbie, I think it's -- and we said this on the last -- in kind of our last conversations.

It's -- when we think about the wholesale channel, one of the unique things about YETI is the breadth and diversity that we have within our wholesale from small independents to some of the best large nationals in the United States and similarly around the globe, and then within those groups, a real range of diversity of partners.

So we get a pretty broad-based look at how they're operating. And one of the things that we've talked about is there's no sort of common YETI theme within the caution or not. We have some partners that are really leaning hard into the year, and we have other people who are taking kind of a more cautious look at Q2, Q3 as the year goes on.

I think the most positive evidence is what Mike said, which is overall demand for the brand is strong, and we're hearing that from our wholesale partners. We have great relationships. We have from -- at all levels and very regular, weekly, if not daily conversations with the majority of our regional and national accounts.

So we have a very close relationship. We're in constant communication about merchandising, product sorting, what's working in the channel and make sure we take advantage of those opportunities as the consumer continues to show up and show up with demand for the brand.

I think we'll turn as we go through the year to more conversation to Peter's previous question about the reintroduction of the new and improved soft coolers, and how we get those out in front of consumers and use that as just another sort of springboard for YETI awareness but also demand for that product category..

Robert Ohmes

That's helpful.

And then just a clarification on DTC, you called out Amazon in corporate sales, -- the -- what are you seeing at YETI.com, was the customization shift, the big impact on YETI.com, like if you excluded that, is there any change with the momentum at YETI.com, or have you changed the digital marketing spending you're doing to drive to YETI.com or anything like that?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Robbie. So you hit on a couple of things. One, we had a good quarter from Amazon and corporate sales and even just to round out the rest of the DTC channel stores, we opened up our 14th location in Omaha, and we're pleased with the results so far of that store. On dot-com, you hit on the big point in that.

Growth on a demand basis was -- we were pleased with. And the challenge that we had with YETI.com really was a unique issue to this Q1. And typically, in prior Q1s, really since we've been public, we exit Q4 with this -- with a backlog of custom orders that we weren't able to fulfill in Q4.

But due to the investments we've made in customization that we've talked to you all about, we were able to reduce lead times and fulfill all those orders in the quarter. And while that's obviously a good thing from a customer experience standpoint, it left us with a tough compare in Q1.

But on a demand basis, we were pleased with the results that we saw in dot-com, both in C&E and Drinkware..

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I'm sorry, one thing I would like to add, is we mentioned on the call that's important is the fact that we said we saw acquisition and retention across all of our DTC channels was positive in the quarter and included in that is the increase in value with those.

So the work that we're doing to acquire customers, retain customers drive value is real positive..

Robert Ohmes

Got you. And then one -- just last one. The product costs up 100 basis points.

Is that a product cost landed from China? And sort of what is the product cost outlook? You mentioned moving production out of China are starting to -- is that going to help -- is that going to reduce product costs as you do that? Or -- and then are you having to -- should we expect more price increases to offset the product cost pressures?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Just -- so here's what I'd say about product costs. I would say that the comments around the transition out of China really didn't play a role in anything we're thinking about product costs for this year. It's just -- it's early in that process.

the impact that we saw in Q1 was really just a continuation of what we saw in the second half of last year. It was largely planned and really nothing has changed with regard to how we're thinking about product costs for the year. We expect it to be relatively neutral for the year to slightly positive is what we said in our prepared remarks.

And so no real concerns on that. It's just what we saw in Q1 was sort of the continuation of some of the dynamics we talked to you all about in the second half of last year..

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Grom from UBS..

Peter Grom

So Mike, you mentioned towards the end of your prepared remarks, greater visibility to margin expansion beyond this year. And just kind of looking at the phasing of the guidance particularly from a gross margin perspective, you're kind of exiting the year with gross margins closer to the high 50% range.

And I guess -- how should we think about the implied exit rate and the ability to return to 57% to 50% gross margin looking out to next year? And then just kind of building on that, you're clearly stepping up investment this year.

So to the extent that we have another year of outsized gross margin expansion, would you expect more of that to flow to the bottom line? Or would you continue to reinvest looking out next year?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Thanks, Peter. So a couple of things. One thing just to -- so you're correct. And then if you look at what we said about margins, we expect to land the year at 55%. We expect -- as we step through the year, we expect the sequential year-over-year increase to increase sequentially as we go through the year.

So that would imply an exit rate in the range that you mentioned. But what I'll say is Q4 is always our highest gross margin quarter given the mix of DTC. So -- you have to take that into account. I wouldn't necessarily look at that 57-ish percent rate and assume that, that's going to be the rate going forward.

So -- but that said, we're not -- obviously, we're not recapturing all the inbound freight benefit this year. There will be more to capture next year.

As it relates to investments, we're going to have to -- as we go into the planning for next year, given the opportunity that we believe is in front of us, we're going to continue to invest both in product as well as in other parts of our business, be it headcount, demand creation, brand awareness, technology, et cetera.

So no real specific guidance to give on FY '24, right, at this point. We'll obviously have more at a later time, but we're going to continue to invest, and we're going to continue to evaluate things that we think can really set us up for the future..

Peter Grom

That's really helpful. And then just maybe one quick follow-up. International performance has been very, very strong.

I guess just as it becomes a bigger piece of the business, are there any margin mix implications that we need to be aware of as we look out? Or is the margin profile kind of similar to what we would see here in the U.S.?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. From a gross margin standpoint, it's really similar to what we see in the U.S. There's differences across the regions based on sales mix. But once you normalize by channel, it's -- the gross margins across the 3 reasons there are similar to what we see in the U.S..

Operator

The next question comes from Xian Siew Hew Sam from BNP Paribas..

Xian Siew Hew Sam

I just wanted to ask maybe about the wholesale trends in U.S. versus international. I mean the U.S. was down about 1% overall. So was it down maybe double digits in wholesale? Maybe can you help us frame that? And then based on the guidance for 2Q, 3Q, is it -- the declines are kind of stepping up. Is that how we should think about it, in U.S.

wholesale?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Xian, to your point, wholesale down 1% in total, international was up. And we don't generally guide to the specific growth rate of international wholesale within that broader wholesale channel. But suffice it to say, it was a similar growth rate to international in total, implying that wholesale in the U.S. was down.

Again, I'm not going to give specific numbers on what the business in the U.S. grew. But when we talked about sort of the spread from sell-through to sell-in, the sell-through reporting we have is generally all in the U.S., we were pleased with it. It was positive.

And so it kind of speaks to the delta between sell-through and sell-in when you consider that the U.S. was down, obviously, more than that minus. Sorry, Xian, the other thing I'd say is we -- that soft cooler impact that we're seeing from the stop sale, that's almost entirely a U.S.

dynamic because there were several reasons where the M-Series had not fully been distributed. And so when we talk about the impact of the stop sale, it is primarily a U.S. impact. And so when we go into Q2 and Q3, the double -- down double digits that we talked about, that's going to primarily be a U.S. dynamic as well..

Xian Siew Hew Sam

Okay. Very helpful. And maybe just quickly on the 300 bps or the recapture of the rate that you mentioned in 1Q, I know you mentioned it's probably higher in 1Q.

But was that much better than you anticipated? Just any frame on how you thought about that capture in the quarter?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I mean that we knew there would be some demand shaping. We just -- we didn't know how much. And so we -- when we talked about it, earlier, we -- and that's basically what we said is that we knew there would be some offset but weren't sure how much.

We do believe that, that 300 basis points of offset is -- we don't expect to see that as we go through the year into Q2 and Q3. We expect the impact from the recall in those quarters to be the roughly 900 basis points that we talked about.

Just because a lot of that was wholesale dealers refilling their shelves with flips where they had M-Series products before..

Operator

The next question comes from John Kernan from TD Cowen..

John Kernan

Mike, can you talk to the confidence and visibility in the return to double-digit top line growth in the fourth quarter? What do you think are the key drivers in that acceleration that we should be looking for?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So a couple of things that I would think about. I mean, first and foremost is going to be the planned reintroduction of the products that we -- that are currently on stop sale.

So we'll get -- not only the launch in the DTC, but we'll get to sort of refill back into the channel where given all the products that we've taken back from the wholesale dealers. So I think that's the first thing.

The second thing is we do -- we are -- when we look out over the year, even in Drinkware, we're excited about the planned reintroductions that we have or the planned product introductions that we have. We feel like we've got an opportunity to continue to go Drinkware and that Drinkware growth will build throughout the year.

And so it's -- the recall is obviously the biggest piece. But even if you normalize for that, we feel like we've got a good opportunity to continue to grow other parts of our business as well..

John Kernan

Got it.

Maybe just one follow-up on freight, I think over 600 basis point headwind to gross margin over a 2-year period, what do you think the ultimate recapture is on the freight cost? And we obviously can understand some of the timing of it you're expecting this year, but how are you expecting in 2024?.

Michael McMullen Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer, Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer

Well, if you look at -- so you're correct, we've over time before -- through 2022, we gave up 600 basis points of gross margin due to freight. Obviously, knocking all of that this year.

So when you look at where rates are today, I mean they've largely come back down to sort of pre-pandemic levels that over time, we should be able to capture the majority of that back in our gross margin. However, we also are looking at this as an opportunity to reinvest back into the business.

And so -- and that's going to be both on the product side or within COGS and therefore, gross margin as well as on the SG&A side. So I do think we have more tailwinds to come as we exit this year, but we're going to have to measure that against what opportunities we see to grow our business over the long term..

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Keith from Piper Sandler..

Peter Keith

On the wholesale channel, there's clearly some concerns in the investment community that you guys might be losing some shelf space, particularly with some of the larger nationals. Maybe just give us a view if you think about the next 12 months, you're relaunching a lot of the recalled products sounds like sell-through is good.

Where do you think your shelf space will be in aggregate? Do you think it will be holding steady, it will be up or even down a little bit?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Peter, thanks for the question. I would say in the conversations I have directly and the conversations that our teams have regularly, shelf space loss is not a conversation we have. We talk about merchandising, how we're going to make shelf space for additional products that we discuss with the channel that are coming.

So I think the shelf space kind of movements that we tend to see are -- we just took some really large products off the shelf in our soft coolers. We expect those to be back in Q4. The conversations with our wholesale partners are timing related and win on bringing those new products, that new category of family back to market.

So I don't -- we don't see and don't have conversations around shelf space reduction. It's really more productive and recently this week having conversations over what the next 2 to 3 years looks like versus the next 2 to 3 quarters..

Peter Keith

Okay. Helpful. And then lastly for me, I was hoping you could touch on the ongoing launch, and I guess, ramp up in Europe. I know we've been talking about it for a couple of years. It sounds like you maybe hit the accelerator here now that COVID concerns are fading.

Could you just give us some updates on how the positioning is there, if it's more DTC versus wholesale and any green shoots you might be seeing with U.K.

or Germany?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Peter, a couple of things there. Lots of green shoots and the benefit of Europe is Europe being not a single entity, but lots of individual countries that have their own uniqueness and opportunities for YETI.

Our DTC business had the distinct advantage during COVID of -- we were able to focus on that business while wholesale was a little slower due to the nature of what was happening. What we're seeing now is the benefits of that is that we have a really nice DTC business across a number of markets throughout Europe.

Wholesale door openings continue at a good pace. The replenishment we're getting as the brand awareness grows and as the consumer demand grows within our established stores has been good.

We really like what we're seeing in the U.K., and we like both what we're seeing, but also just the significant opportunity that is Germany and the German-speaking country and regions. But also, what we're seeing come out of Northern Europe and the Nordics. And so we love what we're seeing there.

I think there's some fun things going on between our brand awareness activations that are very endemic as we talked about a lot of the on-mountain activations. And then some of the broader-based partnerships that we have through some of the major sports.

And then the fact that the Metallica tour kicked off in Amsterdam and is doing the first leg of its tour throughout a number of stops in Europe. I think all those give us really YETI-like opportunity to build as broad-based -- introduction of the product portfolio with this broad-based brand awareness attack..

Operator

The next question comes from Jim Duffy from Stifel..

James Duffy

Mike. A few questions around DTC consumer engagement.

Can you comment on what you're seeing with performance marketing as far in 2023? And your strategies for marketing dollar allocation to top of the funnel versus more performance marketing spend?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Jim, I'll touch on a couple of those things at a high level. We historically haven't spoken specifically to the performance of our individual marketing channels. What I would say is we actually have a very integrated approach to how we build the funnel from top to bottom.

And with the work we've done with our advanced analytics team and learning more about consumer and consumer behavior, particularly in the United States, it is affecting and impacting in a positive way, how we allocate our performance marketing dollars.

And so the work between our Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Commercial Officer is really almost a weekly and sometimes daily evolution of what we put towards top of funnel versus where we invest in the mid-funnel versus where we invest in the -- in kind of the closer into the transaction.

We had some great things come out of our advanced analytics team in looking at demographics, in geographies, with affinities for categories and then applying things in front of consumers at that point. And the results we're seeing in those, we're now expanding those results more nationally.

We're learning some things around certain products, in certain product categories, how different groups have affinities for them and how that changes, how we apply our -- not only our performance marketing, but also how we think about creating brand awareness in those geos and demos.

And so we're excited by what we're seeing and it's not always -- the answer has not always been intuitive. And so seeing sort of a data-driven focus on that, I think it's going to lead to some really nice opportunities for us..

James Duffy

Okay. And Matt, on the U.S. market, I'm curious the engagement trends you're seeing with new versus existing customers.

And specifically, I'm curious, is the Yonder water bottle and it's more approachable price point bringing a new consumer to you into the mix?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I would say, okay, a couple of things. As we expand the portfolio, it does 2 things. It gives us a chance to reengage existing customers and to acquire new customers. Interestingly, we see that with things like the Yonder, but we also see that with soft coolers and what soft coolers have brought from an acquisition perspective.

But in an area that may not be as intuitive, even in our hard coolers and our wheeled 48 and 60 kind of our newest additions to our hard cooler category, those have actually brought in some different geos and demos that may not have been as kind of naturally thought of.

So I actually think it's -- every time we bring innovation to market, it gives us kind of 2 opportunities. It gives us an opportunity to drive deeper within our own customer base, and it also gives us a chance to acquire.

And I think that's why you hear some of the results of broad-based acquisition, really balanced acquisition and retention in the quarter..

Operator

We have time for our last question from Brian McNamara from Canaccord Genuity..

Brian McNamara

So we've noticed recently that YETI is being co-marketed with.

Is that new? What drove that decision? And will that kind of partnership for lack of a better term, be expanded?.

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Brian, for the question. I think I would say we have a lot of brand friends in the active outdoor consumer lifestyle space. And so we do -- our product gets positioned alongside a lot of different brands, in a lot of different categories, and in fact, multiple brands in multiple categories.

And then we have a lot of retail or wholesale partner overlap. From a direct co-marketing kind of national, we don't have anything active in that way. I think the positioning that happens inside stores sometimes is really focused on merchandising to the consumer at certain times a year when they're in that kind of that mode.

The beginning of summer, moms, dads, grads is an opportunity for people to start thinking about summer, start thinking about barbecues, started to think about outdoor gatherings. So I think it's natural that you'd see products like YETI and and many others being positioned together or merchandise together within a store..

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Matt for any closing remarks..

Matthew Reintjes President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning, and we look forward to speaking to you as we return for our Q2 call..

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines. Goodbye..

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