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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q1
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Executives

Colleen F. Henderson - Manager-Investor Relations & Strategic Planning Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President Allen L. Leverett - Co-President, Wisconsin Energy; President & CEO, We Generation Scott J. Lauber - Treasurer & Vice President.

Analysts

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC Brian J. Russo - Ladenburg Thalmann & Co., Inc. (Broker) Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc. Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc. Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co. Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC.

Colleen F. Henderson - Manager-Investor Relations & Strategic Planning

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for waiting, and welcome to Wisconsin Energy's Conference Call to Review 2015 First Quarter Results. This call is being recorded for rebroadcast, and all participants are in a listen-only mode at this time. Before the conference call begins, I will read the forward-looking language.

All statements in this presentation other than historical facts are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, which are subject to change at any time. Such statements are based on management's expectations at the time they are made.

In addition to the assumptions and other factors referred to in connection with the statements, factors described in the company's latest Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated.

During the discussions, referenced earnings per share will be based on diluted earnings per share unless otherwise noted. After the presentation, the conference will be opened to analysts for questions and answers.

In conjunction with this call, Wisconsin Energy has posted on its website a package of detailed financial information at wisconsinenergy.com. A replay of our remarks will be available later today. And now, it's my pleasure to introduce Mr. Gale Klappa, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Wisconsin Energy Corporation..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Colleen, thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us as we review our 2015 first quarter results. Let me begin as always by introducing the members of the Wisconsin Energy management team who are here with me today.

We have Allen Leverett, President of Wisconsin Energy and CEO of our Generation Group; Pat Keyes, our Chief Financial Officer; Susan Martin, General Counsel; Steve Dickson, Controller; and Scott Lauber, our Treasurer.

Pat will review our financial results in detail in just a moment, but as you saw from our news release this morning, we reported adjusted earnings of $0.90 a share for the first quarter of 2015. This compares with earnings of $0.91 a share for the first quarter last year.

Our adjusted earnings exclude expenses of $0.04 a share related to our acquisition of Integrys Energy Group. Well, the story of the first quarter was our cold winter weather. Though not nearly as extreme as the weather that gripped our region last year, temperatures were almost 12% colder than normal, driving strong customer demand for natural gas.

In fact, during February, we delivered more natural gas to our retail customers than during any other February in our history, exceeding last year's record by 5.5%. I'm also pleased to report that our natural gas distribution networks performed exceptionally well, underscoring the benefit to customers of our Deliver the Future program.

You may recall that as part of Deliver the Future, we're accelerating the replacement of older natural gas distribution lines, the lines that are most susceptible to stress during severe weather. Turning now to the state of the economy, the Wisconsin unemployment rate fell to 4.6% in March.

That's the state's lowest unemployment rate since 2008 and is nearly a full percentage point better than the national average of 5.5%. Wisconsin added more than 48,000 private sector jobs between March of 2014 and March of 2015.

And as the economy continues to improve, deliveries of electricity to our large commercial and industrial customers improved as well, rising by 0.6% in the first quarter. Sectors that showed particular strength included plastics, printing and food processing. In addition, we continue to see an uptick in customer growth across our system.

Through early May, new electric service connections are up almost 19% and new natural gas installations are up nearly 14% compared to the same time period last year. Now, later in my remarks, I'll update you on other developments in our core business, and the important construction projects we have underway.

But first, I'd like to discuss our progress in obtaining regulatory approvals for the acquisition of Integrys. To refresh your memory, on June 23 last year, we announced plans to acquire Integrys in a cash and stock transaction.

Our analysis shows that combining the two companies to form the WEC Energy Group meets or exceeds all three criteria that we use to evaluate potential acquisition opportunities. First, we believe the acquisition will be accretive to earnings per share in the first full calendar year after closing. Of course, that would be 2016.

Second, we believe it will be largely credit neutral. And finally, we believe the long-term growth rate will be at least equal to Wisconsin Energy's standalone growth rate.

We expect the combined company will grow earnings per share at 5% to 7% per year, faster than either of us is projecting on a standalone basis with more than 99% of those earnings coming from regulated businesses. Our customers will benefit from the operational efficiency that comes with increased scale and geographic proximity.

And over time, we'll enhance the operations of the seven utilities that will be part of our company by incorporating best practices system-wide. We believe that customers could actually see as much as $1 billion of savings over the next 10 years through a combination of lower capital and operating costs in Wisconsin.

In addition, Integrys today, as you may recall, owns a 34.1% interest in American Transmission Company. Wisconsin Energy owns 26.2%. That means the combined entity will have a 60% stake in one of the largest independent transmission companies in the United States.

ATC has a 10-year capital investment plan to bolster electric reliability in our region that calls for an investment of $3.3 billion to $3.9 billion by the year 2023. We believe it's a solid plan and we welcome the opportunity to increase our commitment to the transmission business.

So where do we stand in getting the regulatory approvals for our acquisition of Integrys? Again to refresh your memory, the proposed acquisition was approved by Wisconsin Energy and Integrys shareholders last November. In addition, the U.S.

Department of Justice completed its review under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act in October of last year with no further action required by the company. Just a few weeks ago on April 7, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission found the transaction to be in the public interest and issued an order with no conditions other than those we proposed.

Then on April 13, the Federal Communications Commission approved the transfer of certain communication licenses. So all federal approvals for the transaction are now complete.

Turning to the state proceedings, the Michigan Commission issued its approval on April 23 and the Wisconsin Commission voted to approve the transaction at its open meeting on April 30, determining the transaction to be in the best interest of utility customers, stockholders and the public.

The Wisconsin Commission applied several conditions to its approval, including a requirement that we share with customers for a three-year period beginning in 2016 any earnings at Wisconsin Electric and Wisconsin Gas that are above our allowed rates of return.

In addition, Wisconsin Public Service, the Integrys utility based in Green Bay, will not be allowed to build a new natural gas-fired generating unit unless a study of the joint needs of all our companies determines a need for new capacity. We expect to receive a final written order from the Wisconsin Commission by the end of May.

In Minnesota, the commission there is expected to review our application during May and the schedule for the Illinois Commerce Commission calls for a decision no later than July 6. In summary, we're making excellent progress on all regulatory fronts and we anticipate closing the transaction now by the end of this summer.

Now, before we discuss the status of our ongoing construction projects, I'd also like to take just a moment to follow up on the settlement agreement in Michigan.

As we discussed during our previous calls, we've been working toward a long-term electric reliability solution for the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, in cooperation with the Michigan Governor, the Michigan Attorney General, the Michigan Commission staff, and iron ore mines.

We reached an agreement on March 12 that replaced the original arrangement we had announced in January. The revised agreement includes the following important elements. First, Wisconsin Electric will retain ownership of the Presque Isle Power Plant and our current electric distribution (8:40) assets.

The iron ore mines have entered into long-term contracts to purchase power from Wisconsin Electric. Wisconsin Energy then expressed a willingness, if requested, to invest in a new generating plant in the Upper Peninsula and/or purchase power from the new facility. This will allow for the eventual retirement of the Presque Isle Plant.

And finally, Wisconsin Energy would potentially create a separate Michigan-only utility. If formed, our electric customers residing in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan would become part of this utility and the utility would be a subsidiary of Wisconsin Energy. Overall, we're very pleased with this result.

And now turning to recent developments in our core business. As you may recall, last July, we received the final written order from the Wisconsin Commission approving our request to build and operate a new natural gas lateral, which will span an 85 mile route through Western and Central Wisconsin.

The project will address natural gas reliability concerns in that region of the state. It will also help meet the demand being driven by customers converting from propane to natural gas and demand from the sand mining industry.

The commission's approval also includes franchise awards for 10 communities along the route and authorizes us to begin delivering natural gas within the borders of those communities. We began work last October on portions of the downstream facilities. Two of the three branch lines were installed by mid November.

Construction of the third branch line began in January and is now nearing completion. Route clearing for the final large diameter lateral is now complete. Construction on the regulator stations is on schedule and 100% of the large diameter steel pipe has been delivered to our work yards.

We are on time, we are on budget and we expect to complete the project in the fourth quarter of this year at a projected cost of $175 million to $185 million excluding allowance for funds used during construction.

On the generation side of our business, you'll recall that we are converting the fuel source for our Valley Power Plant from coal to natural gas. The two unit Valley Plant is a cogeneration facility located along the Menominee River near downtown Milwaukee.

Valley generates electricity for the grid, produces steam for more than 400 customers in the downtown Milwaukee business center and also provides important voltage support for the electric network.

The Valley conversion project achieved another milestone on April 10, that's when unit two started its coal to gas conversion outage and the Valley Power Plant stopped burning coal after more than 46 years. Unit two should be completed by early fall in time for the next heating season.

Unit one, of course, achieved commercial operation burning natural gas last November. Overall, the Valley project is more than 70% complete. We expect the total cost to range between $65 million and $70 million again excluding allowance for funds used during construction.

Converting Valley to natural gas will reduce our operating costs and enhance the environmental performance of the units. We expect the electric capacity of the plant to remain at 280 megawatts. Now, I'd like to touch on the upgrade of our Twin Falls Hydroelectric Plant, located on the border of Wisconsin and Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

Twin Falls was built back in the day in 1912 and is one of 13 hydroelectric plants on our system. Construction began in late 2013 to build a new powerhouse and add spillway capacity to meet current federal standards. Construction activities have now resumed at Twin Falls after a planned break for the winter.

We continue to make good progress on all the major construction work. The upstream cofferdam is finished, rock excavation is roughly 90% complete, and overall the project is on time and on budget with approximately 42% of the work now finished.

We will begin physical construction of the new powerhouse later this spring, and we expect to achieve commercial operation in the summer of 2016. We're forecasting the total investment at $60 million to $65 million, again excluding allowance for funds used during construction.

Also, we continue to make excellent progress on our initiative to improve fuel flexibility at our Oak Creek expansion units. As you recall, these units were initially permitted to burn bituminous coal.

However, given the current cost differential between bituminous coal and Powder River Basin coal, blending the two types of fuel could save our customers between $25 million and $50 million a year depending upon the blend.

So, after receiving the necessary environmental approvals, we began making changes to the boilers and testing various blends of bituminous and PRB coal at the plant. We have actually conducted limited testing on unit two at levels of up to a 100% PRB.

Although, the testing has gone very well, there are operational issues that need to be addressed and equipment that must be modified. So, last July, we filed a request with the Wisconsin Commission to approve additional capital spending to modify the plant. Our share of that investment would be $21 million.

If approved, the modifications are expected to support sustained operation at up to 60% PRB and allow us to continue testing blends of up to 100% PRB. We also need space on equipment to handle additional coal inventory on the site.

As a result, we filed a request with the Wisconsin Commission last October for an expanded cold storage facility and additional handling equipment. Our share of the estimated capital cost for this project is $58 million. We hope to receive commission approval from both of these initiatives this summer.

Looking forward, we continue to see significant investment opportunities in our existing core business as we upgrade our aging distribution networks and focus on delivering the future. Our capital budget calls for spending $3.3 billion to $3.5 billion for a five-year period 2015 through 2019.

Our rolling 10-year capital budget calls for investing between $6.6 billion and $7.2 billion over the period 2015 through 2024.

Turning now to our dividend policy, our current standalone policy targets a dividend payout ratio trending to 65% to 70% of earnings in 2017, a policy that's more competitive with our peers across the regulated utility sector.

At the closing of the Integrys acquisition, we expect to increase the dividend for Wisconsin Energy stockholders by 7% to 8% to achieve parity with the Integrys shareholders. Going forward, the payout target for the combined company is projected to be at 65% to 70% of earnings.

In conclusion, we're off to a strong start both financially and operationally in 2015 and we're pleased with the progress we've made as we work to finalize our acquisition of Integrys. And now, for more details on our first quarter, here's our Chief Financial Officer, Pat Keyes.

Pat?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Thank you, Gale. As Gale mentioned, our 2015 first quarter adjusted earnings were $0.90 a share compared with $0.91 a share for the corresponding quarter in 2014. Consistent with past practice, I will discuss operating income for our two business segments and then discuss other income, interest expense and income taxes.

Our consolidated operating income for the first quarter was $358.8 million as compared to $381.08 million in 2014. That's a decrease of $23 million. Starting with the Utility Energy segment, you will see that operating income in the first quarter totaled $276.5 million for 2015, a decrease of $16.2 million from the first quarter of 2014.

On the favorable side, we estimate that our operating income increased by $14.7 million because of the impacts of the 2015 rate case. On the downside, we estimate that our gas and electric margins decreased by $20.6 million because of the weather. As Gale mentioned earlier, the first quarter of 2015 was cold.

Our heating degree days were up almost 12% as compared to normal. However, heating degree days last year were 24% higher than normal due to the polar vortex. In addition, our depreciation expense increased by $4.3 million due to additional capital placed into service.

Operating income in the Non-Utility segment was up $1.4 million when compared to 2014. This increase reflects additional investment at our Power the Future plants. Our Corporate and Other segment showed an operating loss of $9.3 million this quarter as compared to $1.1 million loss in the first quarter of 2014.

This increase is directly driven by costs associated with the acquisition. Taking the changes for these segments together, we arrived at the $23 million decline in operating income. During the first quarter, earnings from our investment in the American Transmission Company totaled $16.1 million, a slight decline from the same period last year.

This decline was in line with our expectations, and is directly related to an anticipated reduction and authorized returns for transmission companies. Our other income net increased by $1.9 million, largely because of higher AFUDC. AFUDC increased primarily because of our gas expansion project in Western Wisconsin.

Our net interest expense decreased by $2.6 million, primarily because of lower long-term interest rates. Last year, we replaced maturing debt with new debt at lower rates. Consolidated income tax expense fell by $7.9 million because of lower pre-tax earnings. Our effective income tax rate was in line with the prior year.

We expect our annual effective tax rate for 2015 to be between 37% and 38%. Combining all of these items brings you to $195.8 million of net income for the first quarter of 2015, or earnings of $0.86 per share. Our adjusted earnings which exclude $0.04 of acquisition related costs were $0.90 per share.

During the first quarter of 2015, our operating cash flows totaled $329.7 million, which is $55.4 million less than 2014. In January, we contributed $100 million to our pension trust, which reduced operating cash flows. No contributions were made in 2014.

Our capital expenditures totaled $149.5 million in the first quarter, a $20.3 million increase compared to 2014. The largest increase was related to the gas expansion project in Western Wisconsin. Our adjusted debt-to-capital ratio was 50.6% at the end of March.

Our calculation treats half of our hybrid securities as common equity, which is consistent with past presentations. We're using cash to satisfy any shares required for our 401(k) plan, options and other programs.

Going forward, we do not expect to issue any additional shares except of course for those shares in connection with the acquisition of Integrys. We also paid $95.3 million in common dividends in the first quarter of 2015, an increase of $7.2 million over the first quarter last year.

Weather-normalized retail deliveries of electricity fell by 0.7% in the first quarter 2015, as compared to the first quarter of 2014. Actual first quarter deliveries fell by 2.4%. Looking at the individual customer segments, we saw weather-normalized residential deliveries drop by 3.1%. Actual residential deliveries fell 7.1%.

Across our small commercial industrial group, weather-normal quarterly deliveries were flat with last year. Actual deliveries fell by 1.2%. In the large commercial industrial segment, deliveries for the first quarter of 2015 were up by 0.6%. If you exclude the iron ore mines, large commercial and industrial deliveries fell by 0.5%.

Our first quarter weather-normalized retail gas deliveries, excluding gas used for power generation, improved by 2.2% compared to the same period in 2014. Our actual gas deliveries, again excluding gas used for power generation, were down 6.8% compared to the polar-vortex-driven gas sales in last year's first quarter.

Our overall results for gas and electric sales in the first quarter are in line with our expectations for the year. Turning now to our earnings forecast, we are reaffirming our 2015 standalone adjusted guidance of $2.67 a share to $2.77 a share. We're off to a strong start, but we still have nine more months of weather ahead of us.

Again, we are reaffirming our standalone adjusted guidance of $2.67 a share to $2.77 a share. Finally, let's take a look at second quarter guidance. Last year's second quarter adjusted earnings were $0.59 a share, which excludes $0.01 a share related to our acquisition of Integrys.

Last year's second quarter earnings were buoyed by a favorable O&M cost and lower benefits costs. This year, our maintenance schedule calls for more work in the second quarter than we performed last year. In addition, our April weather this year was much milder than last year.

Taking these factors into account, we expect our second quarter 2015 adjusted earnings to be in the range of $0.54 to $0.56 a share. That assumes normal weather for the rest of the quarter and excludes transaction-related costs. Once again, our second quarter 2015 adjusted guidance is $0.54 to $0.56 a share.

And with that, I will turn things back to Gale..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks much, Pat. Overall, we are solidly on track and focused on delivering value for our customers and our stockholders..

Operator

And now, we would like to take your questions. Your first question comes from the line of Greg Gordon with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Greg.

How are you?.

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

Hey, Gale..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

How you doing?.

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

I have two questions.

The first one is how do you feel about the Packers draft?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

My summation of that is the Jets still suck..

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

Fair enough. Fair enough. Probably true. Can you talk about the sales growth in the first quarter in the context of you still feeling like you are on track for the year? I know – because the residential weather-normal demand was down 3.1%..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah..

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

Is that just sort of maybe a statistical issue or do you expect that to reverse later in the year? That's my main question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Good question, Greg. The short answer is, yeah, I do think that the first quarter residential weather-normal numbers are a statistical anomaly. You've heard me say this before, but the weather-normalization techniques that are available to companies like ours, they simply break down when you get two to three standard deviations off the norm.

And last year, with the polar vortex, particularly as it hit the Midwest and Wisconsin, I mean we were way, way off the norm. So, I honestly don't put much stock in the weather-normal numbers for the first quarter.

On the other hand, if you look at our large commercial and industrial segment, which is far less weather sensitive, you saw an uptick of 0.6% even compared to the polar vortex numbers of a year ago.

So, as we've looked at this and believe me, we have analyzed this about 14 ways to Sunday, our bottom line conclusion is we are on track overall for what we expected for the year. And we weren't expecting, as you know, significant uptick in kilowatt hour sales. So we feel pretty good about where we stand.

And again, I would take with a grain of salt the weather-normal numbers when you compare it to such an extraordinary period a year ago. Hope that helps, Greg..

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

Yes, thank you very much. When you talk to your industrial and commercial customers about their planned economic activity for the next 12 months, I know you do a lot of economic development and you stay very close to those....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We do..

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

...those customers.

What is the tenor of – their mood about capital investment, hiring and the outlook?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I would say – and let me answer that in two ways. From the standpoint of commercial development, downtown office towers, retail centers being developed, we're seeing more commercial development than I think we've seen in the entire decade that I have been in this region. So our commercial customers, I would say, are showing just very solid optimism.

Our industrial customers are, I would say, much more cautiously optimistic, nothing that would show huge growth, but on the other hand, I would say steady as she goes from the general input we're getting from our industrial customers. And then, of course, we should see an interesting development in the second quarter.

You may recall me mentioning that Amazon has built a 1 million square foot, it's huge, a 1 million square foot distribution center south of Milwaukee and north of the Illinois line, that construction is complete. They're hiring and we should see that that 1 million square foot facility and a lot of ancillary development opening this summer..

Greg Gordon - Evercore ISI

Thanks very much, Gale. Have a good day..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You take care, Greg..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with UBS. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

How you doing, Julien?.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Hi, good afternoon..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Good afternoon to you..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Excellent. So, first question here more on the balance sheet side of the equation.

In terms of your pro forma metrics for the transaction, how do you see yourself trending within your targeted ranges? And ultimately as you see yourself more structurally what kind of metrics are you targeting pro forma, just perhaps with respect to your rating (27:40) but also even within that kind of the FFO metrics, if you will?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, let me start out by framing our overall objective, and then we can talk through some of the more specifics. Our overall objective, remember, going back to one of our three most important criteria for acquisitions would be that we would maintain largely credit neutrality for the acquisition.

We would fully expect based on the input we're receiving from the credit rating agencies to maintain our A category credit rating. So that basically, fundamentally, where we expect to stay, and where we have planned to stay.

And then of course, as you know, the agencies have very specific debt to total cap and FFO metrics tied to being in – being – qualifying to stay in that credit rating, but we would expect very much to stay within the A category credit rating.

Current thinking, of course, is unchanged related to the amount of debt at the holding company that we would add for the acquisition. Right now, we are still projecting about $1.5 billion of debt at the holding company to complete the acquisition and that would be, Pat, in 3-year, 5-year and 10-year tranches..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Correct, Gale..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

And equally spread across the tranches..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Yes..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So that's basically my general response to that.

Perhaps Scott, Allen, anything you want to add?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Julien, was there something more specific you were after?.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Well, I was just wondering where within those metrics – I mean how much pressure, you talk about maintaining largely credit neutrality, but just how much pressure probably at the lower end of that range within the FFO?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Let me try it this way. The one thing that when we talked to the rating agencies almost a year ago now, there is nothing going on at the utilities, so the only activity we focused on and they focused on was at the holding company. And you may have seen – let's use Moody's as an example. In June of 2014, I believe we were – outlook was down....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Negative outlook..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Negative outlook, and then this morning they announced that we were on....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Negative watch..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Yeah, negative watch. That's all consistent. So I mean, in that, when we first went in and said we're going to put $1.5 billion acquisition down in the holding company, they said okay, that's what we think in June. Now, the triggering event was the Wisconsin Commission approval and now we took the next step. So, fairly consistent.

I don't know I can get any more specific than that..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Got you. Hey, no worries. Thank you.

And then just in terms of execution of the transaction, I know it's a little early here, but can you talk a little bit to the best practices and just ability to kind of, how should we say, turn around the Peoples Gas business and opportunity set there? I don't want to get too close to the synergies per se, but just kind of more qualitative, if you will..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, I appreciate the questions, Julien, and I think very simply, let me start off with basically our overall mission statement. Once we complete the acquisition, we intend to function as one company, one team with seven customer facing brands, all focused on customer satisfaction and operational efficiency.

That's basically the mantra, the mission, and how we will go about achieving the important objectives that we've laid out for the transaction including meeting all three of the criteria that we continue to talk about is the criteria that we use for any acquisition opportunity.

As you probably have read specifically related to your question on Peoples Gas, we were asked by the Illinois Commerce Commission what our plans would be for management of Peoples Gas and we responded to the Illinois Commission in writing committing that we would essentially place a minimum of three new senior officers from our team at Peoples Gas.

So that will be one of the first steps that we will take immediately following the acquisition. We will put a very experienced professional, solid management team in place at People Gas. We're going to find, we know this already some very talented people in the operational ranks with Peoples Gas.

So I think we're going to have a really solid team from day one at Peoples Gas and the Peoples Gas organization will report directly to me..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Got it.

And then lastly – were you saying something?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Obviously, I hope that gives you a flavor..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Absolutely. Just the last little detail. In terms of the timeline for closing you said late summer if I have it right. Is there any....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think we said by the end of the summer..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Got you.

Just in terms of the ICC schedule, is there any reason to think that it couldn't close earlier if you look at it at present?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, if we look at it at present, the Illinois Commerce Commission with the regulations and procedures that they follow in a case like this by statute unless there is some decision to delay, the Illinois Commerce Commission would make a decision by no later than July 6..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Got it.

And then you would close very shortly thereafter in theory?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Once we receive the final approval, we'll close probably within three business days..

Julien Dumoulin-Smith - UBS Securities LLC

Okay. Just checking on the verbiage there. Thank you..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome. Thank you, Julien..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steven Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Steve, how are you today?.

Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC

Hey, Gale, how are you?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I'm good..

Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC

That's good. So just on the Illinois approval, it sounds like they kept the timeline despite some parties concerned about this investigation going on at the – one of Peoples Gas's programs.

Could you just talk about that? And I guess maybe more importantly just how you've gotten comfortable that that is not an issue?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. I'd be happy to, Steve. Well, first of all, just to explain the procedure with the Illinois Commerce Commission.

The State Attorney General in Illinois filed a motion with the administrative law judge that is presiding over our merger case, petitioning the administrative law judge to, in essence, delay a ICC decision on our merger from the statutory deadline of July 6 for an additional 90 days, while the review continues on the management of the advanced main replacement program that Peoples Gas is undertaking.

Both we and Integrys felt that a delay was not necessary, because there's a separate docket where the Illinois Commerce Commission is reviewing any concern and reviewing the manner in which the gas main replacement program has been managed. So there's a separate docket underway that will probably go on for a number of months.

The administrative law judge determined that a delay was simply not necessary and ruled in favor of no delay, the commission staff also suggested no delay. So at the moment, there would be nothing on the table that would postpone a decision by July 6. So I hope that's helpful on the scheduling standpoint.

In terms of the review of the – what's called AMRP, the advanced main replacement program, the Illinois Commerce Commission had already authorized an independent audit, if you will, of how People's is managing that construction program. And of course, that construction program, as you know, is very extensive.

It will last probably at least for a 10-year period. The legislation actually covers the 10-year period in Illinois for the replacement of aging gas pipes in the City of Chicago. Some of those pipes, by the way, are Civil War era pipes, and really do badly need replacing.

So long story short, there already was an external audit going on of the AMRP program and how it's been managed. That audit is well along an interim report.

There is an auditing firm called Liberty and the Liberty report – the interim report is out and has been shared with us and we would expect, Allen, a final Liberty report I would assume within the next 30 days to 45 days..

Allen L. Leverett - Co-President, Wisconsin Energy; President & CEO, We Generation

There is a draft that's already out....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah..

Allen L. Leverett - Co-President, Wisconsin Energy; President & CEO, We Generation

...of the final report..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So, we have obviously been able to review all of the recommendations and all of the findings in the audit, both the interim findings and now the draft final review findings. And, Steve, that's how we're comfortable that that this program is manageable and it's certainly needed from the standpoint of upgraded infrastructure..

Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC

Okay.

And then just to clarify, in Wisconsin and the way the sharing works, my understanding is that above your ROE you share 50/50 for the first 50 basis points and then above that level earnings would be used to pay down this deferral balance?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah..

Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC

Is that essentially how this works?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

That is correct. We have a number of transmission costs that have been deferred on our balance sheet, that's we call it the transmission escrow. And what the commission has asked us to do, as you say correctly, above our authorized rates of return at Wisconsin Electric, which is 10.2 right now on that retail utility.

So the first 50 basis points that we might earn in any years 2016, 2017 or 2018 above the 10.2, we would share with customers 50/50, stockholders would keep 50%. The customer would receive the benefit through paying down the transmission escrow..

Steven Isaac Fleishman - Wolfe Research LLC

Okay. Thank you..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome, Steve..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Russo with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Rock and roll, Brian, how are you?.

Brian J. Russo - Ladenburg Thalmann & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Good, thank you. Actually all my questions have been asked and answered. Thank you..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc. Please go ahead..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Can you think of a new question that hasn't been asked or answered, Paul?.

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

I have got a handful of them, thanks..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Good for you. All right. Give us your best shot here, Paul..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Pat, I just want to make sure I heard you correctly that the lower transmission was a function of the fact you are booking to a lower ROE?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

That's correct. We are....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

That's correct..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

And are you disclosing that ROE?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We've taken our best shot in the zone of reasonableness and we invite you to do the same..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

And the merger costs showed up on the O&M line on the income statement, all of them?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

That is correct..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

So net-net, excluding those, O&M was actually down for the quarter.

What drove that?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Actually, you are absolutely correct. O&M was down for the quarter on an ongoing operational basis and it was really effective cost controls across virtually every part of our organization. It's not just one thing, but it clearly was very good cost control across, literally, every organization..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

And absent outage timing, should that continue through the year?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We will see. I will say one thing. We did benefit, for example, on the gas distribution side of our business. We had – even with the colder than normal weather, we had materially fewer gas leaks to respond to this year and that's I think a direct benefit from the investments we've been making in our gas distribution network.

So, the fact that we wouldn't experience severe weather in the next two quarters might mean that we don't see those kind of O&M savings on the gas side of our business. But by and large, I mean, our folks have just done a tremendous job of managing effectively from the standpoint of cost control..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

And then I think when you gave initial guidance, Presque Isle was still getting SSR payments.

How has the turn of events kind of changed – how does that play into guidance?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, it doesn't play into guidance.

We are no longer receiving SSR payments, but it doesn't play into guidance because the way rates were set at the end of 2014, in essence, the revenues, the margins from any sales to the mines, which have now basically stepped back into a power sales arrangement with us, any revenues and margins from those sales would really go to – go into escrow for dealing in the next – for treatment in the next rate case.

Allen?.

Allen L. Leverett - Co-President, Wisconsin Energy; President & CEO, We Generation

Right. And then you also escrow for SSR revenues..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Right..

Allen L. Leverett - Co-President, Wisconsin Energy; President & CEO, We Generation

So, what Gale was explaining is that they made an assumption about SSR revenues. And to the extent that SSR revenues in this case are less, you book an escrow item. And then to the extent we get margin from the mines, you escrow that as well. So, it just all goes up on the balance sheet and there really is no income statement impact..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Right. So, on the balance sheet, it's like Ragu, it's in there..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Got it. And then kind of relative to 1Q guidance, I think you beat the midpoint by $0.10.

Can you kind of explain where that came from?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, basically – and I'll frame it and Pat can give you some more specifics, but essentially, there are a couple of drivers. One would be – in terms of our guidance, one would be the colder weather that drove stronger gas and electric margins than we had anticipated in the budget; and the second is largely O&M control.

Pat?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Right. I'll just put a little color to that, Paul. I agree completely with Gale. Weather was roughly $0.05 better than what we thought versus the guidance, and O&M was roughly $0.03 better. And again the best example of that, as Gale mentioned, was the gas expense for leaks..

Paul T. Ridzon - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Sounds good. Thank you very much..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Terrific. Thank you..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Caroline Bone with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Good afternoon, Caroline.

How are you doing?.

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Good. Good afternoon. I was just curious if you could remind us what base year you are using when guiding to the 5% to 7% EPS CAGR for the pro forma company..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, the 5% to 7% combined company EPS projection really would be off of the year 2015..

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Okay. That's great.

And then also a minor question here, but what should we expect transaction costs to be for the full year in 2015?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, it depends upon how well Susan Martin controls our attorneys. And so far, that ain't so good. No, actually our attorneys have done very, very good work obviously and we're very much on schedule in terms of all the approval process. I'm looking at Pat to see if you have a total for this year only..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Yeah. For this year only, about $20 million to $30 million and that's....

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Okay..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

That's just the out-of-pocket lawyers and bankers. That's not all the other stuff that goes around change of control, et cetera..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

That is – Pat is correct. That's the out-of-pocket expenses, legal fees, investment banking fees, expert witness fees, other outside consultant fees that are required as we work through the regulatory process..

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Okay, great. Thank you. Just one more minor one. In your earnings package you guys talked about rate cases adding $14.7 million versus last year.

Is that kind of a good run rate assumption for the rest of the year in each quarter in terms of the benefit?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

No. I would not use that as a run rate.

Pat?.

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

Yeah, I think this quarter is going to be a little higher..

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Okay..

James Patrick Keyes - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President

And the reason for that is if you look back at 2014, January, we did not collect SSR. So that delta is going to be higher. In this quarter, so – then running out will be the same. So whatever you see in Q2 might be a good prediction, but one is a little high..

Caroline V. Bone - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Okay, great. Thanks a lot..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome, Caroline..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Michael, do you have any more of those blue things we drank one night?.

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

No. I have not. That's a good idea. It's been a while. It's been a couple of years. We should catch up on that if we can find that place..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Exactly..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Two questions. One, really a little bit of a follow-up on Caroline's one.

Can you remind us what were the rate increases – base rate increases granted in 2015 by the PSC for both WEPCO and WG?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We didn't – have got the specific numbers here with us and we're going to ask Scott Lauber or Pat to give you that. Overall, when you take into account a fuel cost reduction that we were able to put into rates (45:05), overall, our electric rates are only up about 0.1%, but it differs between customer segments.

Scott?.

Scott J. Lauber - Treasurer & Vice President

Yeah. That's correct. So, Wisconsin Electric is just up a small 0.1%; if you put the fuel and it's actually down about 0.4%; and if you look at Wisconsin Gas, it was up about 2.6% on the margin..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Yeah, my apologies, I may have asked the question poorly.

I recall that there was a base rate increase at WEPCO for this year?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

There was..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Okay. Can you just – let's leave fuel out of the equation, I'm just trying to think about base rates..

Scott J. Lauber - Treasurer & Vice President

Yeah, the base rates were up were 0.1%, but remember, we're giving about 0.5% back as a credit this year and that credit was really like a base rate, it increase also..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

So, a long story short, I would use 0.1%..

Scott J. Lauber - Treasurer & Vice President

That's what the customers are seeing..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, the customers for base rates are seeing 0.1%..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Okay. So, on an annualized basis I'm just trying to get to a rough dollar millions number here, okay? I just wanted to sanity check that, because I don't know why I thought it was somewhere in kind of the $30 million to $45 million for WEPCO..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Because you're probably not far off..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Okay, that's fine. I can follow up offline.

Second, on – when you look at your businesses, electric and gas utilities, do you see when you kind of look out too hard to predict 10 years down the road, but next two years to three years, two years to four years, one side of the business growing faster than the other, meaning electric growing faster than gas or maybe something we haven't seen in a long time, gas growing faster than electric?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, if I were a betting man, I would project that we would see gas – our gas distribution business growing slightly faster than our electric business for a couple of reasons. One, clearly, just the low price of natural gas; and secondly, the opportunity that we have to continue to gain customers through switching from propane to natural gas.

You may have heard me say this before, but the national statistics from a year ago would indicate that Wisconsin is one of the five heaviest using propane states in the United States. And I think there is a tremendous opportunity for customer growth.

Forget about per usage customer for a minute, but I think there is a tremendous opportunity for customer growth as we continue to see customers wanting to switch to our natural gas distribution network.

In fact, I mentioned in the script, the uptick in customer growth that we are seeing and it's double-digit so far this year compared to the uptick we saw even last year. So to make a long story short, if I were a betting man, I would say, gas grows faster than electric by a bit over the next four years to five years..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

And can you frame for us what percentage of the potential kind of addressable market is actually using propane versus natural gas in Wisconsin?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

The last number I saw, but please don't hold me to this, was that there were a couple of – somewhere between 220,000 and 250,000 propane users still in the state. Now many of them are in rural areas, where there is not a strong natural gas distribution networks.

I don't want to mislead you that a quarter of a million customers could automatically just switch tomorrow to natural gas. But it gives you a sense of what the longer term prospects might look like..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Got it.

And finally on electric transmission, you are booking a lower ROE, this isn't a – you are not booking a charge related to a potential refund, you are booking a – this is an assumed number up, an ROE percentage that you think will be the adjudicated number that comes out of the MISO case and what you will earn on until whatever future rate filing occurs 5 years or 10 years down the road..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. You've phrased it exactly correctly..

Michael J. Lapides - Goldman Sachs & Co.

Okay. Thanks, guys. Much appreciating. Congrats on a good quarter..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Michael..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Please go ahead with your question..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Greetings, Paul..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Hi.

How're you doing?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We're great.

How're you doing?.

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

I'm managing..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Wait a minute. I thought you – last time you told me you were wonderful and award winning..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

I got that, but then I will strive, how about that?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We appreciate that, Paul..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Yeah. I want to follow up on Steve's question on this gas main thing, because just to make sure I understand this.

Is the gas – this accelerated main replacement issue, is that now out of this merger case and in the separate dockets that they opened up because of whistleblowers? So, we are not going to hear about this anymore? Because I'm just trying to – it seems that the AG's always coming out going back to this thing saying this is some – she is very upset about it and what have you.

So I'm just trying to – is it out of the case?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think, well, let me answer it two ways. I think you probably will continue to hear about it, but in terms of technically, the whistleblower letters and the review of the program – well, let me put it this way.

The whistleblower letters and our review of those whistleblower letters and any other investigations that are going on are now part of a separate docket..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Okay..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Separate and apart from the merger case. But that doesn't mean that someone couldn't inject a discussion about it in our merger case. But it might be helpful, Paul, to clarify for you where we stand in the merger case itself.

In essence, all the hearings have been completed, all the testimony is in, all the briefs are done and we would expect some time in the next few – certainly in the next couple of weeks, we would expect to see a draft order by the administrative law judge who is hearing the case.

So once that draft order is out, then all the parties will have a comment – will have an opportunity to comment on the draft order, after that then the draft order will go to the commissioners themselves for a final decision.

So in terms of evidence, in terms of positions in the case, all of that is basically in the record and the record is now essentially closed other than comments on a draft order, if that's helpful to you..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

That's very helpful.

And then so I mean, does the settlement makes sense at this point given how far along everything is?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

At this point, well, this being this close to a draft order, my own view would be the most sensible thing to do is to let the process play out and the process is getting close to the deadline..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Okay..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

And if you think about sitting here on today we're at May 5, we would be less than 60 – well, about 60 days away from the statutory deadline for a decision..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Okay. And now you've actually seen the Liberty Consulting report which I'm afraid I have not, I guess it's been publicly released now. Is that right? Or it's just you guys who get it. I don't know, because I....

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I'm not sure that it's been publicly released, but the commission asked or gave us specific authority and all the parties were fine with us reviewing the material in the interim Liberty report and in the draft – as Allen said, draft final report. So yes, we have seen the review. We have seen the audit..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

So you guys are in a great position to answer some of these – well, I am not going to ask you to go over all of it.

But I mean it just this idea that the budget has ballooned according to some of the filings that they are attributing to this program and that it is – that they are behind schedule and way over budget, I guess, is basically sort of what we are hearing.

When you look at it, and knowing what you know about obviously gas utility work and what have you, you guys feel comfortable that this is a program that can be managed and completed in a commercially effective way, is that a good way to put it or do you follow me?.

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, let me answer it this way. There are a lot of moving pieces in terms of what the eventual cost might be. But do we believe based on what we've seen that, A, the work is needed; and B, it can be done professionally and in a long-term cost effective way? Yes.

But at this point, I don't think it's appropriate for us to comment on what the exact right budget number should be..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Okay..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

But as we look at the recommendations from the Liberty audit, I mean the recommendations frankly make a great deal of sense. There is nothing in the Liberty audit that I have seen that is troublesome from the standpoint of can we effectively manage the program. I'm confident we can..

Paul Patterson - Glenrock Associates LLC

Excellent. Thanks so much..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're more than welcome..

Gale E. Klappa - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

All right, ladies and gentlemen, well, I think that concludes our conference call for today. We really appreciate you participating. If you have any other questions, the famous Colleen Henderson is available in our Investor Relations office at 414-221-2592. Thanks again, everybody. Have a great day..

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