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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q4
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Executives

Greg Holloway - VP, General Counsel and Secretary Eric Long - President and CEO Matt Liuzzi - CFO.

Analysts

Praveen Narra - Raymond James TJ Schultz - RBC Capital Jeremy Tonet - JPMorgan Shneur Gershuni - UBS Sharon Lui - Wells Fargo Jerren Holder - Goldman Sachs Andy Gupta - HITE Hedge.

Operator

Good day. And welcome to the USA Compression Partners’ Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2014 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Greg Holloway, Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary. Please go ahead, sir..

Greg Holloway

Well thank you, Jamie and good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us. This morning as you know, we released our financial results for the quarter ended December 31, 2014 and full year 2014. You can find our earnings release and later a recording of this conference in the Investor Relations section of our website at usacpartners.com.

The recording will be available through February 28. During this call, our management will discuss certain non-GAAP measures. You will find definitions and a reconciliation of these measures to GAAP measures in the earnings release. As a reminder, our conference call will include certain forward-looking statements.

These statements include projections and expectations of our performance and represent our current beliefs. Actual results may differ materially. Please review the statements of risk included in this morning's release and in our latest filings with the SEC.

Please note that information provided on this call speaks only to management's views as of today, February 17, and may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay. I’ll now turn the call over to Eric Long, President and Chief Executive Officer of USA Compression..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. Also with me is Matt Liuzzi, our CFO. I am pleased to report that we finished 2014 on a strong note. This morning, we reported record levels of revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted distributable cash flow for both the fourth quarter as well as the full year.

During 2014, USA Compression deployed a record amount of capital, over $370 million, taking advantage of market conditions to grow our business and further strengthen customer relationships, all while maintaining our business strategy, providing compression services on a take or pay basis without taking on direct commodity risk.

I'll get into the details of 2014 in a moment, but first let me address head-on the elephant in the room, just what impact has the volatility in oil prices had on USA Compression's business.

While the headlines in the news are focused on oil price volatility and the reaction to lower oil prices by producers, the midstream natural gas industry has so far been weathering the storm.

As our long-time investors and business partners understand, our business depends primarily on the domestic production of natural gas, which drives the bulk of our business.

We like the intermediate and longer term outlook for natural gas, both on a global basis as well as closer to home in the domestic market, where it has a more direct impact on our business. I'll discuss this further in just a moment.

As we get going into 2015 like many of our peers and customers, we're exercising a great deal of caution in terms of capital spending and how we pursue business opportunities.

We will respond to customer demand for compression, but we expect to proceed through the year at a major pace and one that allows us the greatest flexibility to react to further market movements, whether positive or negative.

At investor conferences and meetings and on previous earning calls like this one, you may have heard me speak to two key tenants associated with how we run our business and how the natural gas demand driven compression sector is fundamentally different from other commodity price drilling-driven service providers.

Those two tenants revolve around growth and stability. We grow prudently and methodically when market conditions dictate like they did over the past several years and especially in 2014.

In the current commodity price environment though, I want to draw attention to the stability of our business that I've spoken about in the past with our fee-based infrastructure oriented applications and contracts, and what that means in the current marketplace. It is not all gloom and doom in the energy patch.

We're seeing customers continue with planned infrastructure projects and they're contracting with USA Compression for our compression services, since compression services like ours are required for large scale, capital intensive undertakings to move natural gas to the marketplace.

As an example, in the Marcellus Shale Play, our customer Consol Energy has announced a 2015 CapEx cut of about 20%, yet they expect production for 2015 and 2016 to increase at a 30% compound annual growth rate.

Marcellus Shale peers, Range Resources and Antero cut 2015 CapEx by 45% and 50% year-over-year, while expecting production to grow at about 20% and 40% respectively. We're seeing this theme in other basins and with other customers as well, and to reiterate, rising natural gas production such as this is good for our business.

As you'll recall, the vast majority of our business is focused on traditional midstream applications where our assets serve a critical role in transporting and processing natural gas.

Our customers tend to take a long-term investment view in constructing these large gathering systems and processing facilities, and compression is a required component of getting those assets online and moving natural gas to the marketplace. As a result, we believe that customers such as these will be moving forward in contracting for our services.

Our customer base is made up of counter parties with strong balance sheets who have the liquidity to continue to operate and grow even in market periods like the current one.

To provide a sense of the stability and strength of our customer base, our top 10 customers, who represented about 46% of our revenues in 2014 have an average credit rating of investment grade levels at BBB-plus/Ba1.

We place importance on partnering with the right customers and we're proud that we've developed a stable, loyal, and long-term customer base of companies, with substantial financial strength. This gives us further confidence in our ability to successfully execute and grow our business even in softer market conditions.

So reflecting the strong performance of our fourth quarter 2014, we announced a distribution of $0.51 per limited partner unit, an increase of approximately 6% over the same period in 2013. We've increased the distribution every quarter since our IPO.

The increase in our distribution reflects both the methodical growth and long-term stability of our underlying business. We believe that it is important to note that our all-in adjusted distributable cash flow coverage for the quarter was 1.11 times.

For 2015, we will be prudent in our capital spending plans as we continue to manage both our cash coverage and total coverage as well as our leverage. Bottom line, our business is performing well. Matt will provide some more specific details on our operating and financial performance a little later.

Touching on the macro natural gas picture as I mentioned earlier, there are some positive drivers going on in the market that are and will continue to drive our business. The supply-demand balance in the U.S. is currently close to equilibrium.

Raymond James suggests there is about 2 Bcf to 3 Bcf a day of seasonally adjusted oversupply right now and in excess of only about 3% or 4% on a total domestic production base of about 81 Bcf a day. This base is up substantially since last year, about 7 Bcf or so a day and is projected by the EIA to continue growing in 2015, in 2016, and beyond.

Virtually all of this increase in natural gas supply will need compression to get into and through the pipeline infrastructure and move to the marketplace.

With the impending completion of domestic LNG export facilities as soon as the end of this year, the continued conversion of coal fuel power plants to gas burning plants and further expansion of gas export South to Mexico that balance is expected to tighten up in the near term.

We think the global export of LNG and the export of natural gas to Mexico alone have the potential to generate approximately 10 Bcf in demand in the intermediate term. We would expect the supply demand situation to lend support to the price of natural gas.

If as expected, overall domestic demand goes up, domestic producers will continue to produce in order to meet that demand, and the midstream operators will continue to invest in the infrastructure and the associated compression needed to transport, process, and deliver that gas to the end user.

The EIA projects that about 70% of the increase in natural gas production will come out of the domestic shale plays. This fits in well with our business model of providing compression services through our flexible assets designed to handle a wide range of operating conditions.

We have broad geographic diversity, yet we're focused primarily on shale and unconventional plays including the Utica and Marcellus Shales and the Permian and Delaware basins.

These along with other areas of operation including the Eagle Ford Shale as well as the Barnett and Fayetteville Shales are where we expect to need to be take advantage of the market opportunities we see coming in the very near future.

We have the geographic diversity so as to not be overly concentrated in one single play if we have our presence in the most active areas to be able to drive our growth. As we also know, a small portion about 15% of our total fleet horsepower consists of smaller horsepower units that are primarily used in gas-lift operations.

Given the recent volatility in the crude oil market, we're taking a cautious outlook and focusing on our biggest customers to best ensure that the units we have out stay working. Contrary to popular belief, drilling and more importantly oil production has not come to a screeching halt.

Certainly in oil oriented drilling programs, producers seem to be shifting their focus toward the most economical areas, but as I said earlier, when you dig into the details on a customer by customer basis, while headline CapEx budgets have been slashed, in many cases actual oil production is expected to be up in 2015, in some cases meaningfully over 2014 levels.

And so while we don't expect the gas-lift market or the gas-lift part of the market to be growing at the rate we've seen in recent years, we do think there will be continued demand for gas-lift compression especially in the areas that are economically advantaged; areas like the Permian and Delaware basins and the SCOOP for instance, exhibit attractive economics for producers, including rapid initial payouts and low lifting cost once the wells move into the stable, long-lived tail of production.

When these wells go into a steady state mode, requiring gas-lift energy to move the oil to the surface is where our units can add value keeping production going for these producers.

While we expect to continue to see some near-term pricing softness as the market gets sorted out, we're also proactively engaging in discussions with some of our largest customers to ensure that the gas-lift compression needs can be met throughout the year and in some cases, contractually agreeing to exclusively and providing their compression -- their incremental gas-lift compression requirements.

So to summarize what we're seeing out in the marketplace, natural gas looks strong and our customers continue to invest in infrastructure projects, supported by ongoing shale production and global factors driving domestic supply and while the drilling of new crude oil wells has slowed, providing compression in these applications is a small part of our business.

We're monitoring this activity closely and are taking a more cautious approach. Our fleet and based on what we've seen in the markets, the fleets of our comparable peers remains highly utilized. So far we see continued need for the existing infrastructure oriented compression assets deployed in the field.

As I mentioned earlier that 2014 was a record year in terms of capital spending for USA Compression, we invested over $370 million in new compression units throughout the year, most of which are on the ground generating revenue.

Utilization is important in our industry and we manage this significant level of capital spending while keeping our utilization at near record levels, 94% at the end of the fourth quarter. So not only did we grow our fleet, we kept our existing assets deployed and earning return for our unit holders.

This level of activity is consistent with our long history of high utilization and reflects the infrastructure nature of our business.

We've been providing compression services since 1998 and have experienced multiple commodity price cycles and the gathering system and processing plant that are asset served, run 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. Our mission-critical equipment is core to our customer's businesses.

Without compression, natural gas will not move into and through the pipeline infrastructure. And it is because of our expertise, quality of assets, and caliber of our field service employees that our customers put their trust in us each and every day.

The activity in the market and executing on our business plan resulted in strong financial results for the quarter. For the fourth quarter, I am pleased to report that total adjusted distributable cash flow coverage was 1.11 times.

Some of our major unit holders have continued to participate in our Drift program, taking back additional units instead of cash payments. This provides our public common unit holders additional cushion, boosting our cash coverage ratio to 2.7 times.

Our aim has always been to provide our unit holders with attractive distribution growth, while balancing coverage and leverage. Matt will address leverage in his comments, but we still believe 3.5 to 4.0 times is the right level for our business over the long term.

We continue to be focused on managing the business with appropriate long-term coverage and leverage matrix. During the fourth quarter, we added approximately a 100,000 horsepower to the fleet, bringing our total fleet to about 1.5 million horsepower.

The full year’s additions were approximately 350,000 horsepower for the year, a record for USA Compression. As discussed, we're deploying those units in active areas and earning attractive rates of return on that capital. We continue to spend maintenance capital for the upkeep of the fleet.

That investment is necessary to maintain high utilization levels and run times. This has always been a priority for USA Compression, something our customers demand and is a meaningful part of our value proposition.

Looking forward, we expect continued demand for our compression services and have already placed orders for approximately 230,000 horsepower for delivery in 2015, primarily in the first three quarters.

These units will go to serve producers and mid-stream operators as they continue to build out the country’s infrastructure in the Northeast, West Texas, the Mid-Continent and elsewhere. Of that 230,000 horsepower, about 200,000 is expected to be large horsepower units and we have already contracted approximately 43% committed to customers.

Breaking that down a little further, we have approximately 63% of our Q1 deliveries committed and at this point in time, approximately 42% of Q2 deliveries.

We expect the first and second quarters of 2015 to represent up to 69% of our total large horsepower spend for the entire year and so we feel like we are in good spot with regards to contracting new units. The remainder of our spend will be for the smaller horsepower units, which we also expect to be frontend loaded this year.

As a data point, this level of smaller horsepower units is about one-third of what we ordered in 2014. As you can see by design, we're frontend loading our capital spending for the year, which provide us significant flexibility in the back half of the year as the market settles out and we get more visibility as to what our customers need.

We expect to continue our focus on optimizing the financial returns for both our existing fleet and the units to be added in 2015, deploying units to where they can generate the highest long-term returns. Summing up, I am pleased to say that we've executed and will continue to execute on our business plan and deliver results for our unit holders.

In 2014, we took advantage of favorable market conditions to invest in the long-term growth prospects of USA Compression and as we come into 2015, we are taking a more measured view of the marketplace, but one which we believe provides us both growth opportunities in the near term as well as flexibility over the longer term.

The mid-stream sector is not shutting down and we benefit from the same fundamental business drivers that the gathering and processing MLPs do, but without any direct commodity price exposure.

The market continues to move forward, in spite of the recent weakness in commodity prices, but importantly natural gas is increasingly becoming global and remains a fuel choice domestically, which is favorable for our customers in USA Compression's prospects.

Now with that, I’ll turn it over to Matt to walk you through the details of our operational and financial performance..

Matt Liuzzi

Thanks Eric and good morning everyone. As Eric mentioned, today USA Compression reported record levels of revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted distributable cash flow for the fourth quarter of 2014.

Touching on fourth quarter operational highlights, we added approximately 100,000 horsepower of new compression units to our fleet during the quarter and ended the year with approximately 1.5 million total fleet horsepower.

As we've discussed on previous calls, during 2014 we took advantage of market opportunities and took delivery of approximately 350,000 horsepower of new compression units as compared to our initial expectations of 220,000 horsepower going into 2014. We spent over $370 million in growth CapEx for the year.

Reflecting the cautious approach to the coming year, we've ordered approximately 230,000 horsepower for delivery in 2015, which we expect to be delivered primarily over the first three quarters of 2015.

Our revenue generating horsepower increased from $1.3 million at the end of the third quarter of 2014 to $1.4 million at the end of the fourth quarter of 2014 due to the additional units we placed into service. We continue to see initial contract terms of six months to five years depending on applications.

Turning to the financial performance for the fourth quarter of 2014, revenue increased 25% compared to the fourth quarter of 2013 primarily driven by an increase in our contract operations revenue as a result of adding revenue generating horsepower.

Contract operation's revenue in the fourth quarter of 2014 increased 27% to $60 million as compared to $47.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2013. The fourth quarter of 2014, increase in our contract operations revenues was driven almost exclusively by the organic growth in our revenue generating horsepower.

Average revenue per revenue generating horsepower per month increased 3% to $15.82 for the fourth quarter of 2014 as compared to $15.36 for the fourth quarter of 2013. Adjusted EBITDA increased 30% to $33 million in the fourth quarter of 2014, as compared to $25.4 million for the fourth quarter of 2013.

Adjusted distributable cash flow in the fourth quarter of 2014 was $26.3 million as compared to $18.9 million for the same period last year, an increase of 39%. Gross operating margin for the fourth quarter of 2014 increased 28% to $42.1 million, as compared to $33 million for the same period last year.

The gross operating margin percentage increased from 67.9% in the fourth quarter of 2013 to 69% for the fourth quarter of 2014. Maintenance capital expenditures were $3.4 million in the fourth quarter, which was consistent with expected levels for the quarter.

Expansion capital expenditures primarily used to purchase new compression units were $109.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2014. Cash interest expense net was $3 million, compared with $2.7 million in the third quarter of last year.

On January 22, 2015, we announced a cash distribution of $0.51 per unit on our common and subordinated units, which represents an approximate 6%increase year after year. This is the seventh consecutive increase to our distribution since our IPO in January 2013.

This fourth quarter distribution corresponds to an annualized distribution rate of $2.04 per unit. Consistent with previous quarters, USA Compression Holdings LLC, the owner of 42% of the partnerships outstanding limited partnership units and Argonaut Private Equity, an Affiliate of George B.

Kaiser together with other related investors, the owners of approximately 16.3% of our outstanding limited partnership units have agreed to reinvest all of the cash distributions they receive on their unit pursuant to our drip through the first quarter of 2015.

Adjusted distributable cash flow coverage for the fourth quarter of 2014 is 1.11 times and cash basis coverage for the actual distributions to be paid as a result of USA Compression Holdings, Argonaut Private Equity and other investors participating in our drip is 2.7 times.

Also during the quarter, we worked with our banker to increase and extend our credit facility. And on January 6, 2015, the partnership closed the second amendment to its fifth amended and restated credit agreement. The amendment provides for an increase in the facility capacity from $850 million to $1.1 billion in an extension of the maturity to 2020.

The amendment also provides additional flexibility under the financial covenants. Outstanding borrowings under our revolving credit facility as of December 31, 2014, were $595 million resulting in a leverage ratio of 4.5 times on a trailing three month annualized basis. We’re providing our full-year 2015 guidance range as follows.

We expect full-year EBITDA to be in a range of $130 million to $140 million and we expect to generate distributable cash flow of $91.3 million to $102.3 million. This guidance reflects the current market realities given the overall industry uncertainty.

We’re proceeding with caution and prudence, planning for near-term stability and longer term flexibility. Finally we expect to file our Form 10-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission in the next several days. With that we’ll open the call to questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Now we’ll take our first question from Praveen Narra with Raymond James..

Praveen Narra

Hi good morning.

You talked a bit in your comments and obviously it’s a much smaller piece of your business, but how do you think about the outlook for utilization in the gas lift and well side compression part of the business? Does it actually start to decrease in this environment or how should we think about it?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Yeah, Praveen, I guess we look at it in a couple different ways. One, we anticipate that incremental new growth activities will slow. Obviously, deployment of new gas lift equipment is tied to new drilling activity, which is going to have somewhat of a slowdown. That said, it’s a fairly large universe and the opportunity set is somewhat large.

I think one of the reasons we’re backing off on the new CapEx for 2015 on gas lift is to make sure that we can maintain our historical high utilization rates that we’ve seen.

So, clearly producers are not going to be removing gas lift equipment from wells that are making 50 or 100 or 250 barrels a day that need lift energy, provides the source of energy to get the oil out of the ground and obviously provide the cash flow that the producers need.

So, I think we’re going to be somewhat guarded coming into the year, but our view is if we back off on the new unit deploys, that will allow us to maintain a high degree of utilization that we have in the existing base fleet..

Praveen Narra

Okay, that’s helpful.

And then could you give us a sense on both you guys and the industry in terms of the horsepower build-out and the prevalence of building on spec versus building on contract? You had mentioned what it was for your current orders, but is that about right for the industry or do you see your book is a little bit more contracted for the industry, and this on all compression, not just gas lift?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

I obviously can’t comment on others. We spend time visiting with our packagers, some of our competitors package or own equipment and I don’t believe that – a couple of these guys haven’t made their -- haven’t presented their quarterly calls yet.

So, I do have a sense from visiting with the manufacturers on the engine and the compressor frame side of the equation that lead times are still long. We’re looking at 30 to 40 week lead time right now for the major components and visiting with a couple of our fabricators. Their contract book is strong for 2015 and in some cases on into 2016.

So the demand is still high. Clearly, some of that would be for owner-operator, some of the major gatherers and processors, who purchase equipment for the projects that have very long cycle times.

Our sense is in looking at what we’ve seen coming through the end of the years that the utilization of the domestic fleet, for guys like us is still very high.

So, I think I would contrast that to the 2008 and 2009 time period, where there seem to be a fairly large, I’ll call it glut of large horsepower equipment, and our discussions with our packagers and what we’re hearing from customers out in the field is that is not the case today.

That we’re highly utilized and it seems like our peers are highly utilized, and that we’ll wait to hear with some of the commentaries from some of our other public peers after they announce..

Praveen Narra

Okay. And if I could just sneak in one follow-up.

In terms of the pace of newbuild orders in horsepower going forward, and obviously you can only speak for yourself, but I guess if you had to guess on the industry, would you think that the pace from here continues at a 2014 pace or would it moderate in terms of ordering?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Well, I think clearly in our case, we came into 2013 looking to deploy 220,000, and we did you know 350,000, 370,000. This year, we came into it looking to do about what we did coming into 2013, again 220,000; 230,000; 250,000 horsepower range.

So I think maybe this year, people are looking at the back half of the year, probably have a little bit less visibility for the second half of this year than we did last year at this time looking at the back half of the year.

So, I think it’s premature to conject what the back half of the year is going to look like for the industry based on current pricing and current signals, probably a little more conservative than last year..

Praveen Narra

That’s very helpful and thank you. Sorry..

Matt Liuzzi

Praveen, its Matt, I’ll just add one other thing you mentioned speck builds, when we go through our budget, when we’re developing our capital plan, we don’t think about it like a spec unit.

We go out and when we come up with that range of capital that we think we’re going to spend for the year, what we’re basing that on is detailed conversations with customers throughout all the regions about their needs for the remainder of the year, and so we don’t think about it as we’re going to get a 100,000 horsepower in the back half of the year, and we better find somebody to use it.

These numbers are based on continual conversations with customers. So I just wanted to draw that distinction that it’s not quite spec ordering I think like other industries may have..

Praveen Narra

That’s helpful. Thanks and congratulations on the strong contract -- on the strong coverage..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Next question comes from TJ Schultz with RBC Capital..

TJ Schultz

Hey guys good morning.

I guess just kind of staying there first on some of the utilization, and it sounds like you're discussing kind of defending utilization as you have in the past, but just any more specific color on utilization and pricing changes year-over-year in 2015 as it relates specifically to your 2015 EBITDA guidance? I’m just trying to see how we should think about some of the puts and takes between utilization and pricing near-term to get there?.

Matt Liuzzi

Sure TJ its Matt. When we look at the utilization, I mean pricing obviously was up year-over-year in the quarter, and so we continue to see out there attractive -- we continue to sign up deals at attractive rates.

And so when we project out, we don’t really show a big decrease in rates where we’re looking at flat rates with -- if there’s upside to raise that's going to be a little bit additional on top of that. In terms of utilization, I think as Eric mentioned, when we look out there, we see that there's still demand on both sides of the business.

People are still spending money on these big infrastructure projects.

And so, with our CapEx at the level where it is and we think when we kind of look around across the industry, we think the demand for equipment is going to remain fairly solid and fairly tight throughout the rest of the year, which should support both continued utilization and pricing trends..

Eric Long Executive Officer

And TJ, along that line, having the focus that we do on infrastructure equipment, we continue to move up and up and up in the size of the compression assets that we're adding to our fleet.

When you look at what we're adding this year, it's a large component of equipment being deployed in the 3600 series, 3606, 3608, even 3616-type compression equipment. That last one, the 3616 is just disclose under 5,000 horsepower per gizmo. So, not everybody can do this.

There's just a couple of us in the industry who have the wear with all, both financially and operationally to be able to deploy this type of iron.

That type of equipment typically goes out under much longer term contract, intends to be less, call it, price sensitive than some of the other lower horsepower, more commodity oriented, more well ahead oriented type of equipment. So, I think that's a big differentiator this year when you look at the amount of horsepower that we'll add.

The average size of the fleet this year that's being added will be significantly larger than what we added last year on an average basis, bigger stuff..

TJ Schultz

Okay. Thanks. I guess just lastly, you have a 3.5 to four times I guess kind of target leverage ratio, and given the 2015 CapEx and cash flow guidance, it seems not surprisingly that equity funding will need to be part of the funding mix longer term. But maybe if you could just discuss how you think about that given where your yield is right now.

And then, in the past, you've talked about looking at strategic acquisitions as a way to improve liquidity in your stock maybe and hopefully the yield. So maybe just touching on that lever as well as a way to get to where you want to be..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Sure TJ, you certainly hit it on the head. I mean, in terms of kind of the current yield as we sit here today, it's not super attractive to be out there issuing equity. The amendment that we did to the credit facility back of the beginning of this year obviously gives us some flexibility to kind of let things sort themselves out in the market.

Equity is obviously an important part of kind of the overall capital structure. And we realize that and really getting from kind of that 4.5 times level down to kind of 3.5 to four target range is going to require a balance between the leverage and the distribution growth and coverage et cetera.

So we are definitely still kind of keeping an eye on everything, but understand that it's got to be a balance of capital..

Matt Liuzzi

In terms of strategic M&A, we continue to look at things regularly. Last year there were the value expectations I think amongst all subsectors in the MLP land intended to get pretty high. And so, I think this year is sort of remains to be seen kind of where those trends move.

But certainly, we continue to look at things and to the extent that it would accelerate that us getting into a more manageable leverage scenario, we would absolutely look at things..

TJ Schultz

Okay. Thanks Matt..

Operator

Next go to Shneur Gershuni with UBS..

Shneur Gershuni

Hi. Good morning, guys..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Hi, Shneur..

Matt Liuzzi

Good morning..

Shneur Gershuni

Hi, morning. Just a couple of quick questions and some of them I guess are follow-up. In your prepared remarks you'd sort of emphasized how you really have to pay attention to natural gas production rather than crude production, and everybody is announcing production cuts or CapEx cuts and so forth.

But I guess so I was wondering if you can kind of square peg for me here. There are lot of gathering and processors who tend to focus more on the gas and on the NGL side of the equation. That seems to be cutting CapEx and headcount aggressively. We saw Noble this morning; we've seen DCP Midstream and so forth.

Some of them are in some of the basins that you deal I think so forth. Is it a scenario now where things are flat for you now because of kind of the producer plans for the next year or so, and more the lag nature of your business? I was just sort of wondering if you can sort of help us a little bit here.

Because it's one thing to see the crude CapEx cuts and being able to say that's differentiated from your business, but when we look at the gathering and processors and they are sort of taking strategic cuts sort of how does that fit with your business? Do we see that later on? Is it just growth slowing? I was wondering if you can just sort of comment about that..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Sure. One of things we see in an environment like this and we've seen this historically through multiple cycles, we tend to be kind of avoiding capital gain at this stage. So when folks cut their CapEx budgets, they look at their incremental needs and say, you know, is compression really a core competency.

Is that something that we want to take our precious amount of CapEx dollars and truly deploy? So, I think you'll see a balancing act. You'll see some folks who are -- may have some company-owned equipment that they'll deploy in the short-term.

Some of the folks will look at it and say, you know, I've got $100 million worth of compression that needs to be deployed over the course of the next year or two. And I got to buy the whole thing? Am I going to outsource part of it to U.S.A.

or outsource at all? So I think historically again what we've seen in marketplaces like this is a little bit more of a shift to the outsourcing model, we avoided capital type of gains. I also think it's specific to certain G&P companies.

So the drivers in the Utica, the Marcellus are very different than the drivers in the Mid-Continent or very different than the drivers in the Delaware in the Midland basin right now. So I don't think it’s, Shneur, one that you can paint with a broad brush and paint the entire industry.

There are areas that are what we call Tier one high quality properties in the Permian, in the Delaware which are being developed where you don't have sufficient pipeline and processing capacity to handle either the very high BTU-rich gas or the common sand or oil that's coming out from the Wolfcamp and the Wolfberry in that area.

So, very different drivers in the SCOOP; very different drivers in the Utica and the Marcellus. So could have some potential impact, but that's I think why we're coming into 2015 being a little more cautious and guarded just to see what the visibility for the back of the year truly looks like..

Shneur Gershuni

If I can paraphrase a little bit, is it fair to say that while everybody is looking at their budgets and looking and reviewing their business models it’s fair to say that we're more likely to see them act towards preservation of capital and outsourcing the CapEx really on to you rather than them trying to in-source compression to try and lower variable cost..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Generically yes..

Shneur Gershuni

Okay. Cool. A follow-up question to that. Just lot of the good questions have been asked already, but kind of curious if you can sort of talk about capital cost at all. Are your dealers cutting cost at all for equipment and so forth? We've seen some of the major machinery companies report disappointing earnings and so forth.

I'm just wondering if you're starting to see some of the benefits in terms of lower cost for equipment that you'd be purchasing or looking to purchase over the next year or so..

Eric Long Executive Officer

I wish we can tell you today we're seeing that Caterpillar historically has not been receptive to reducing their first cost. I think they view the marketplace similar to Ferrari. They've never been the low cost provider. They have been bearing kind of the perfect storm where they've had reductions in mining equipment.

They've had the strong dollar implications. The energy sector has been one of their big drivers for the past few years. That said Caterpillar is not the only game in town and that there are other providers of compression equipment at the driver side who are aggressively looking to make some inroads in this marketplace.

So, I think it's one that at this stage of the game unlike what you're seeing in some of the other service industries where there's some fairly major reductions in equipment cost and then hence the ability to reduce some of those service fees.

We've not seen that yet in our industry, but that's something that obviously we're going to spend some time on this year..

Shneur Gershuni

Okay. Great. Thank you very much, guys..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Sharon Lui with Wells Fargo..

Sharon Lui

Hi. Good afternoon. Just to raise a follow-up on TJ's question about guidance, on annualized basis the fourth quarter numbers was about $132 million in EBITDA. Looking to, I guess, your guidance for 2015, it was $130 million to $140 million. It just seems very conservative given where the current run rate is.

You indicated I guess that utilization should remain pretty solid as well as the rates. Just wondering, were there unusual items in the fourth quarter perhaps, or maybe we should be thinking about the margin going forward..

Matt Liuzzi

Sure, Sharon, it's Matt. A couple of things. In the fourth quarter we did have a few benefits just from some timing items that boosted that up a little bit. And when we look at the next year, again I think we are taking a cautious approach. As Eric mentioned, we don't have as much visibility in the later part of the year.

And so, we understand that when you look at the fourth quarter and you annualize it, you get to levels where you had mentioned, but basically are what we put out there for our range on both EBITDA and DCF just reflects kind of an uncertain market as we said here today.

And certainly, throughout the remainder of the year, we hope to be able to update that and provide updates to our investors. But right now, we're taking that cautious approach to the year..

Sharon Lui

Okay. And I guess may be if you could provide some color on any recent conversations you've had with your customers. They seem I guess discussing more in terms of pricing or deferring their commitments to walk in contracts at this point in time. Just trying to think about what type of conversations you've been having..

Eric Long Executive Officer

So again, Sharon, we can't sort of generalize and put the broad brush across the entire U.S. I would say that there are pockets of strengths and there are pockets of little softness. There are certain companies that are highly levered with limited hedge capacity on the E&P side.

They're having a more difficult time than some of the larger folks who might have a stronger balance sheet and had a much more actively hedged program.

Even with that although CapEx budgets have been cut with the E&Ps, in some cases -- most of the cases fairly dramatically, we are continuing to se and we're hearing from our customers both Midstream and E&P that their overall production for 2015 will be increased over 2014.

And when we then look at how they are going to get their gas into and through the pipelines, compression is needed.

I think the reason we're being a little more cautious and conservative and why we set little bit larger guidance range this year is looking at the back half of the year just there's a little less clarity than there was this time last year due to the volatility and commodity prices.

Prices remain soft or slip further, probably a different scenario then if prices tend to tick up a little bit. We are seeing, particularly when you look at the Marcellus and the Utica, there's a lot of volumes, there's a lot of gas that's been developed that does still need to get to the marketplace.

So again, I think we're cautiously optimistic is to what the back half of the year will look like. But my crystal ball and I don't think anybody on the call has the ability to accurately forecast what's going to go on with instability in Middle-Eastern countries and the other things that we can't control.

So I think we're all taking somewhat guarded view for the back half of the year and just make sure that we don't over-commit and that we actually are able to deliver with what our forecast projects are going to look like..

Sharon Lui

Okay. No that’s helpful.

And I guess the last question is just in terms of the Drift program, any update on that front?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Sharon, no change in the Drift program. Obviously this quarter Riverstone and Argonaut both elected to participate. They have committed through the first quarter payment, which will happen in May and so at this point there’ve been no decisions made further out than that..

Sharon Lui

Okay. Great. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan..

Jeremy Tonet

Hi, all of our questions have been answered..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Thanks Jeremy..

Operator

We will next go to Jerren Holder with Goldman Sachs..

Jerren Holder

Hi, good morning, appreciate the guidance for 2015, any thoughts on distribution growth though?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Jerren, no. We don’t provide actual distribution growth guidance, but obviously that's something that the Board will review on a quarterly basis and make the determination based on that quarter as well as kind of the outlook for the rest of the year..

Jerren Holder

Is it fair to see in every quarter you guys have increased the distribution that that trend should continue in 2015?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

I would have to leave that to the Board to make that decision..

Jerren Holder

Okay. And on the covenants, no there were some amendments to the credit facility.

Can you talk about some of the key metrics, any sort of debt to EBITDA sort of limits that you guys need to be aware of as you go about financing the CapEx program here?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Sure, so we closed the deal in early January of this year. The convenient relief that -- flexibility that I had mentioned basically gives us the ability to go to up 5.95 times coverage for the first and second quarters of this year and then it steps down to 5.5 times basically through the second quarter of 2016.

And so that basically we bump it up and gave us a little more breathing room really to let the market sort itself out and continue to execute on the capital program. So again right now we were at 4.5 times at the end of the year versus leverage convent of 5.5 times..

Jerren Holder

And those metrics are -- they're going to be I guess trailing three months annualize like you used the 4.5 times..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Yes. Trailing three months annualized that’s right..

Jerren Holder

Okay. All right, thank you..

Operator

We will next go to Andy Gupta with HITE Hedge..

Andy Gupta

Hi. Good morning guys. I just want to follow-up on Sharon’s question on potential customer behavior.

We had one mid-stream company on Friday suggest that they were going to do more owned compression equipment like leased equipment, do you have any thoughts, are you hearing some more comments from your customers?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

I am actually -- I've said on that same call on Friday -- that particular company has a propensity to purchase equipment because it tends to have 20 year to 30 year applications for that type of product. Again we don’t see a wholesale move toward -- we want to own everything versus we want to outsource everything.

A fair number of our midstream customers approach kind of a balance where they outsource some and then they own some and we're not seeing a radical wholesale shit one way or the other from that historical philosophy..

Andy Gupta

Got it and sorry to go back to the gas because I know that's a smaller percentage of your business, but just to understand a little bit better. You mentioned you may see some pricing softness on that front of the business.

Can you elaborate a little bit more and so a related question on the utilization, I am not sure if you break out utilization for this business.

But what are you sort of seeing for the gas and some of the utilization as well?.

Eric Long Executive Officer

Yes, so I think part of the reason we're being a little more conservative with our future growth outlook is we acquired the gas lift assets couple of years ago. This is the first super cycle or first softness in the oil price side that we're coming into. So we're approaching it probably more cautiously maybe than others.

If this stage of the game we are not seeing a wholesale change in utilization, utilization of the gas-lift fleet is still strong.

So I think we're proactively contemplating that utilization and/or pricing might soften a little bit and so we're trying to kind of hunker down before the storm hits so to speak and at this stage of the game, that we've not seen wholesale return or much degradation all frankly in the utilization of the gas-lift fleet..

Andy Gupta

Understood.

And just to think about what the softness could be, is a 10% range reasonable or plus minus?.

Matt Liuzzi

Again too early at this stage to contemplate one way or the other. It may be no degradation in utilization, no degradation in pricing. It could be some and at this stage, we're not seeing it. I can't really conject..

Andy Gupta

Understood. Well, thank you guys. Congratulations on the quarter..

Matt Liuzzi

Thank you..

Operator

And it appears, there are no further questions at this time. So I'll turn the conference back over to our host for any additional or closing remarks..

Eric Long Executive Officer

Thank you, everybody for your time today. I know it was kind of a long-winded call. A lot going on in the industry and as you heard me say before the story at USA Compression has been and will continue to be a story of growth and stability. We had a very good year in 2014. We're having the makings of a good year for 2015.

We'll balance the growth and we'll continue to focus on the stability side. So we'll update you with press releases every now and then if they're germane for an operational update and we'll continue to update you as to the performance of the business on our next quarterly call. Appreciate your continued support and everybody have a great day..

Operator

Thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's call..

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