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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q1
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Executives

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc. Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc..

Analysts

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc. Peter Jacob Keith - Piper Jaffray John Baugh - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc. William Michael Reuter - Bank of America Merrill Lynch Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc. Curtis S. Nagle - Bank of America Merrill Lynch Bradley B. Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Karru Martinson - Jefferies Robert Drbul - Guggenheim Securities LLC Seth M. Basham - Wedbush Securities, Inc. Michael Louis Lasser - UBS Securities LLC Carla Casella - JPMorgan Securities LLC Laura Champine - Roe Equity Research.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Matthew and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Tempur Sealy First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you.

Barry Hytinen, you may begin your conference..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Thank you, Matthew. Forward-looking statements that we make during this call are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Investors are cautioned that these forward-looking statements, including the company's expectations regarding sales, earnings, net income, and adjusted EBITDA, and anticipated performance for 2017 and subsequent periods, involve uncertainties. Actual results may differ due to a variety of factors that could adversely affect the company's business.

The factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those identified include economic, regulatory, competitive, operating, and other factors discussed in the press release issued today.

These factors are also discussed in the company's SEC filings including, but not limited to annual reports on Form 10-K and the company's quarterly reports on 10-Q under the headings Special Note Regarding Forward-Looking Statements and/or Risk Factors. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which it is made.

The company undertakes no obligations to update any forward-looking statements. This morning's commentary will include non-GAAP financial measures.

The press release contains reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, except as otherwise discussed in the press release as well as information regarding the methodology used in our constant currency presentations.

We have posted the press release on the company's website at tempursealy.com and have also filed it with the SEC. Our comments will supplement the detailed information provided in the press release. And now, with that introduction, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Scott..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Thank you, Barry. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us on our first quarter earnings call. Today I'd like to take you through the highlights of our first quarter results and discuss the team's progress against our worldwide initiatives.

For the first quarter 2017, adjusted EPS was $0.96 a share, a robust increase of 41%, driven by a 16% increase in adjusted EBITDA and benefiting from our share repurchase program. We are proud to report this is the company's 8th consecutive quarter of double-digit adjusted EPS growth quarter-over-quarter.

I am pleased with the overall performance of the team this quarter, especially considering the United States' first quarter GDP was meek at less than 1%, making a less than robust environment, and we dealt with the unexpected termination of our largest customer early in the quarter. Let me take a minute and highlight a few items.

First, we demonstrated the ability to mitigate the declining sales from Mattress Firm. Sales in North America were up versus prior year, even though sales to Mattress Firm declined nearly 40% during the quarter.

Another way to think about this, is that while our largest customer went from 21% of overall sales in the first quarter last year to only 13% in the first quarter this year, our worldwide sales and adjusted EBITDA were both up versus first quarter 2016.

In North America, sales from non-Mattress Firm customers grew by 13% during the quarter, which I expect was more than the growth rate in the overall North American bedding market. This is a testament to the strength of our market leading brands and also the talent of our North American retail partners.

Second highlight, we continued to drive operating efficiencies. Overall, adjusted operating margin increased by 60 basis points, including a 100-basis point increase in North America segment. This is after fully absorbing headwinds from commodity cost increase and unfavorable FX.

While we've made solid progress over the last year and a half, we are still pursuing many opportunities to drive efficiencies over the long-term. Third highlight, our quality and on-time delivery statistics continue to be outstanding, especially in North America.

Last highlight, two items, North American pillows and sales in Germany, both issues in the past we've called out as needing attention, are both now growing in sales. This is consistent with our management approach to find problems and address them quickly. Looking ahead, the organization continues to focus on its long-term initiatives.

These long-term initiatives include the following. First, develop the most innovative bedding products in all the markets we serve. We are currently in the midst of one of the largest new product launches in the company's history.

In North America, the new Sealy Masterbrand products began shipping in March and floor models of the new TEMPUR-Legacy product began shipping in April. Both product lines are expected to complete their launch in the second quarter, on time and on budget. Internationally, new Tempur-Pedic products are on the early stage of rolling out.

Markets that have the new product are performing well. The worldwide rollout is expected to be completed by year-end, on time and on budget.

We continue to receive positive feedback from our retailers around the world about all the new product lines, especially our new Sealy product line in North America, which many retailers have called the best new product launch in years. Second long-term initiative is to invest significant marketing dollars to promote our brands worldwide.

In the first quarter, we increased our direct advertising spend in North America. And more importantly, starting next week, we will accelerate our advertising spend even further with the launch of our new Tempur marketing campaign that we feel very good about.

You should note that we will be investing very heavily in advertising during the next couple of quarters as we support our retail partners and their efforts to drive sales of Tempur-Pedic products. Third long-term initiative, expand North America margins while maintaining market share.

You can see margins are clearly expanding, driven by our ongoing efforts to improve our operations including continuing improvement in Sealy manufacturing, lower source costing, reduced corporate overhead.

Regarding market share, we have some work to do post Mattress Firm termination, which is why you will see us heavy up our North American advertising spending during this revenue growth period, resulting in margin decline.

The last long-term initiative is to optimize worldwide distribution to make sure our products are properly represented in all channels in which our customers want to shop. As we discussed in the past, we don't determine which channel the customer shops. We strive to have our products wherever they want to shop.

Our primary distribution starts with our retailers. We're working to broaden our network of retail partners where our brands are underrepresented. In addition, to compliment our brick-and-mortar retail network, we're also optimizing our online distribution. This quarter we experienced robust growth in our Internet business.

In fact, it grew over a 100% worldwide, and over 200% in North America. We're now one of the top Internet bedding brand companies in the world, and we believe one of the most profitable by a good bit.

I'd also like to point out that we are not overinvesting in customer acquisition cost as our EBITDA on our Internet business is growing faster than our sales.

Additionally, I should mention that we view our relationship with our retailers as a true partnership and in that spirit, we're actively sharing our Internet learnings with hundreds of Tempur Sealy retailers to help them sell more of their products online. I'll discuss our sales growth strategy in a minute.

But first, now I'd like to hand the call over to Barry, to give you the details of our record quarter..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

retail and other. We are updating sales channels to wholesale and direct. Wholesale is primarily third party retailers as well as third party distribution, hospitality and health care. Our direct channel includes company owned stores, e-commerce, and call centers.

We believe this change better aligns to the marketplace and the different margin characteristics of our business. For easy comparison, we have recast historical channel data and made it available on our investor relations website. Our wholesale channel decreased 2% to $672 million, however excluding Mattress Firm this channel was up 8%.

The direct channel increased 39% to $50 million driven by growth across all portions of this channel with particular strength in our Web business, which was up over 100% as Scott mentioned. On a segment basis, North America net sales were consistent with the first quarter of 2016.

Excluding Mattress Firm, North American net sales increased 13% driven by growth in Stearns & Foster and Tempur-Pedic. Our sales to Mattress Firm declined 37% to $94.5 million. Sales in Canada were up 10% on a constant currency basis. Our North American wholesale channel declined 2% to $558 million.

However, excluding Mattress Firm, this channel was up 11%. We felt this was very solid performance given Mattress Firm's aggressive inventory liquidation activities. The North American direct channel increased 130% in the quarter with strength in our web business which was up over 200% and represents over half of this channel.

We drove growth from a broad selection of products across our web business, both traditional and new offerings. Tempur-Pedic mattresses, pillows and accessory products together with our BedInABox Cocoon offerings, were all strong performers.

Now, regarding Cocoon, we are pleased with the initial success particularly given its profitability targets and our limited advertising dollars allocated to it.

We credit this to its superior product quality based on our manufacturing know-how versus competitive offerings that are often outsourced to third-party contract manufacturers, many of whom make product for multiple BedInABox players.

Now, even with competitors, overspending on customer acquisition cost, we are seeing indications that growth in this niche segment has slowed. North American adjusted gross margin improved 180 basis points to 38.8% as compared to the prior year.

The primary drivers of improvement were productivity across our operations, lower floor model discounts and channel mix, which were offset by brand mix.

North American adjusted operating margin improved 100 basis points to 14.4% as compared to the prior year and was driven by the improvement in gross margin, partially offset by increased investments in our brand advertising campaign. Turning to our International segment, on a reported basis, net sales decreased 1%.

On a constant currency basis sales were up 3% with the wholesale channel up 3% and direct up 4%. In the wholesale channel, retailers were transitioning out of our old product line in preparation for the launch of our new Tempur line. Our direct business was driven by continued strength in web sales.

I would like to highlight that we experienced solid growth in Germany and believe that portion of the business is positioned for long-term success. We did feel some softness in the UK and a few other smaller European markets, which we think is just general macro trends.

International adjusted gross margin decreased 207 basis points to 51.6% compared to adjusted gross margin of 54.3% in the first quarter of 2016. The gross margin decrease was due to the rollout of new products and foreign exchange headwinds partially offset by positive channel mix. International adjusted operating margin was slightly down to 19.1%.

Now turning back to the company's worldwide performance. Adjusted operating income increased to $85.4 million as compared to $80.6 million in the first quarter of 2016 and our adjusted operating margin improved 60 basis points. Interest expense was $22 million, up 3% from last year. Other income was $9 million as compared to last year's $1 million.

Other income includes about $9.5 million due to a one-time payment by Mattress Firm related to the transition agreements we signed with them in the first quarter. Now, as a reminder, we spent approximately $13 million in the fourth quarter to support Mattress Firm with its massive store transitions in Stearns & Foster product launch.

So the $9.5 million payment from Mattress Firm was intended to partially offset that prior investment. If you are normalizing, you might remove it from this quarter's operations and move it to the fourth quarter of 2016. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $121 million, up $17 million from last year.

Adjusted EBITDA growth was driven by lower launch expenses, favorable channel mix, operational improvements, and other income partially offset by volume and our brand advertising campaign. In addition, unfavorable foreign exchange rates and higher commodity costs together were about $5 million of headwinds to EBITDA.

Now, as we have talked about before, we are trying to get away from making pro forma adjustments. However, as we noted on the yearend earnings call, the unexpected contract termination with Mattress Firm resulted in a series of adjustments in the first quarter. I'd like to spend a moment going through the detail of this, most of which is non-cash.

In total, we had $25.9 million of net pro forma adjustments, of which $5.5 million were cash items. There were $11.5 million of cost of sale items, all were non-cash. These included potential future product obligations and the write-down of some customers' unique inventory.

There were $14.4 million of net pro forma adjustments to operating expenses, as shown on the income statement as customer termination charges. On a gross basis there were $23.7 million of operating expense items.

This included a non-cash write-off of $17.2 million for incentives and marketing assets, which would have been expensed over their useful life. The remaining $6.5 million was driven by employee-related costs, such as severance.

These charges were offset by a $9.3 million non-cash benefit for adjustments made to our performance-based stock compensation as a result of the reduced expectations for 2017.

Now, moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow items, we generated operating cash flow of $67 million in the first quarter versus $19 million used in the same period last year, driven by improvements in net working capital. We invested $13 million in capital expenditures and generated over $54 million in free cash flow.

In January, the company repurchased about 600,000 shares for a total cost of approximately $40 million, and we have $227 million available for future share repurchases. Cash cycle improved 12 days from the same period last year, primarily driven by improvement in days' sales outstanding and inventory days.

At the end of the first quarter, net debt was $1.9 billion. Our leverage ratio on a trailing 12-month basis was 3.46 times, down from 3.6 times at year-end. Now turning to our financial guidance, today, we reaffirmed our 2017 adjusted EBITDA to be in a range of $400 million to $450 million.

As noted on our last earnings call, we continue to believe the second quarter will be the most challenged, as we overinvest in advertising to fuel recapture plans and with Mattress Firm continuing to aggressively advertise as they wind down inventory. And now, I'll turn it back over to Scott..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Thank you, Barry, great job. As I mentioned last quarter, we need to make up some sales in North America. Our sales growth strategy consists of three key components. The first component is to keep our brands top-of-mind with our customers. We've increased our advertising investment in absolute dollars and as a percentage of sales.

Our new advertising campaign Tempur-Pedic is Power, features real Tempur-Pedic customers telling the story of why sleeping on Tempur has dramatically improved their lives.

In addition to this campaign, we're excited about a new partnership with an avid Tempur-Pedic owner and worldwide champion athlete, who will speak to the unique power of Tempur-Pedic sleep.

We've also committed significant incremental advertising dollars to our Sealy and Stearns & Foster brands, which we will start deploying as the lead up to Memorial Day. The combination of our larger advertising spend and exciting new content should drive demand for our products and facilitate directing customers' traffic to our retail partners.

The second component to our plan is to work closely with our retail partners. Our sales team has developed detailed market-specific plans by retailer to facilitate revenue recapture.

Retailers can lean into Tempur Sealy in a variety of ways, from subtle changes like modifying their sales strategy or training process, up to more dramatic adjustments like changes to their advertising focus and/or adding incremental Tempur-Pedic products to their floor.

In certain cases, to capitalize on market opportunities created by our well-regarded brands no longer being available at Mattress Firm, certain retailers are planning new stores in markets where Mattress Firm has a large presence. Third component of our plan is to continue to optimize our distribution system in North America.

Our preference is always to partner with existing retailers that demonstrate a long-term commitment to brands embedding customers. Consistent with our past practice in certain underserved markets, we expect to open a handful of company-owned stores under our successful Tempur-Pedic flagship program.

As a reminder, we now operate six flagship stores in North America, that are high touch, low pressure retail environments that allow our customers to engage with our iconic Tempur-Pedic brand.

Over the last five years in markets where we've had open flagship stores, our retailers in those markets have benefited from the presence of these stores as these stores enhance brand awareness and image. We don't expect this program to be significant in 2017 or in 2018, but we believe it strengthens our overall distribution network.

Lastly, we will also continue to work on making sure our brands are getting their fair share of Internet bedding business, both through our retailers and the company.

Turning to outlook, consistent with what we explained last quarter, with all the moving parts and noise in North America bedding, we'll need several quarters before we will have the data necessary to communicate a fully informed opinion on sales growth amount and pace.

I can say the team did get out of the gate quickly and as the first quarter results demonstrate, we had some early successes, but the big challenges and opportunities are still ahead of us and as good as we feel about this quarter, we all know this is going to take some time.

As Barry has discussed, we expect to prime the pump with advertising in the second quarter and we're holding our manufacturing capacity. This will result in next quarter's earnings to be down versus the same period last year. It will be a few quarters before we get back to an earnings growth trend.

We've made minimal adjustments to our budgeted cost for this year and have in fact increased our budget for advertising to drive the North America market. This level of investment has been fully reflected in our 2017 guidance.

Once we see where sales settle out, we'll be able to recalibrate our expense structure and fine tune our cost structure if needed. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions..

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Budd Bugatch from Raymond James. Your line is open..

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Good morning, guys. This is Bobby filling in for Budd. Congrats on a good quarter and I appreciate you taking my questions..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Thank you..

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

First, I was just curious, could you give us some color on like-for-like pricing, maybe what the benefit was in the quarter and what's kind of your expectations are for price for 2017?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Much of the benefits of the quarter..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Bobby, it was a small amount in the quarter. As you know we did put through a little bit of pricing on a net basis on Tempur earlier in the year and we here very recently have raised prices on some of our Cocoon offerings. It was $1 million or $2 million of net benefit on a EBITDA basis.

Scott?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. The only other thing I'd say about the pricing environment, and you probably know the other large bedding manufacturer in North America recently announced a fairly large price increase. We've looked at that. We don't see the need for a price increase or to follow that price increase..

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay. I appreciate that.

And then on the non-Mattress Firm revenue growth in North America, can you maybe give us a little color on, is it coming from new – have you signed up new retail partners or is it flat growth or kind of a combination of both? I mean, what's kind of going on to help you guys significantly outgrow the industry there?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

I would say primarily, it's with existing customers. There are some new customers in there, but the big drivers are the existing customers..

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

And I would just add that we saw strong growth across our brands, Tempur and our Sealy brands in the all other customers..

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay. Thank you. And then lastly from me, on Sealy four-wall margins, any update on how those are progressing.

I heard in your prepared remarks you mentioned delivery and stuff continues to tick higher, but just any further update would be appreciated?.

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Bobby, we've seen the Sealy four-wall continue to improve. It was up a little over 100 basis points on that specific metric and we've seen very strong productivity within our Tempur factories as well and frankly across the entire distribution.

So as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, the North American margins and our EBITDA were all benefited significantly by productivity..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Next question..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Keith from Piper Jaffray. Your line is open..

Peter Jacob Keith - Piper Jaffray

Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Just looking at the North America gross margin expansion, it did tick up quite nicely sequentially from Q4.

So just want to peel that back a little bit, you'd indicated that brand mix was a drag, but it sounded like Tempur and Stearns were the outperformers, I thought that would help? And then if you could provide a little more color on the channel mix benefit, is that simply direct versus wholesale or is there some benefits within the wholesale channel?.

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah.

So, our Stearns business did as you would expect, Peter grow faster and that's helpful, but Tempur especially in light of the amount of Tempur business that Mattress Firm used to do as you know, they were indexing significantly higher on Tempur-Pedic and we saw that come back significantly with them to more of a parity in the quarter and so that was a bit of drag on our Tempur-Pedic business.

So that's where we are kind of referring to there. It wasn't a huge point, but I did call that out as an item. As it relates to the channel mix, there is a few things going on there.

As we've discussed before in light of their previous volume levels, Mattress Firm had the highest subsidies and as they come down that gives us a natural tailwind, if you will, and then, our direct business as you know was growing very fast and continues the strong growth and that's also favorable..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Baugh with Stifel. Your line is open..

John Baugh - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Thank you for taking my questions this morning. I was wondering, is there any way to isolate in Q1 what the EBITDA amount was from Mattress Firm. I assume with all the charges and everything it kind of goes to a zero in Q2.

And then a second question, do you have any sense of where Matt Firm is in terms of cleaning out their inventory of all three of your brands? Thank you..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

I can do some of that and Barry can clean it up. Clearly, Matt Firm goes to zero in the second quarter, I can confirm that. I could probably confirm that – we probably could compute the EBITDA for Mattress Firm, but we wouldn't give an individual EBITDA number for any customer in the first quarter. So we will probably pass on that.

There have been some public disclosures that Mattress Firm has made related to their inventory. We did not have visibility to their inventory other than their public disclosures. But I would say, they still have a good bit of inventory as of April 11, which was the last disclosure we got..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. Measured in a month-and-a-half or so based on last year's sales, roughly speaking..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open..

William Michael Reuter - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Good morning, guys.

I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about BedInABox, you made the comment that you felt that your competitors businesses, the growth there was slowing, and then you also talked about the Cocoon business doing fairly well, could you talk a little bit about what the growth rates that you are seeing in your segment there and what you think the competitors are growing at? Thank you..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. I can speak to a little. As you know, you don't get hard information on that kind of business. And so, you have to make some assumptions based on soft information from various locations. So, I'll speak to it about, but I just have to say, it's to the best of our knowledge that we can tell.

The easy part is, our business – call the web business up 200% in North America. But I think the more important point on that, although 200% is maybe an eye-popping number, I think the part that we feel the most proud of is that the EBITDA of that business is growing more rapidly than the sales.

Another way of saying that is we are not overinvesting in customers and we're running that channel just like we run any other of our channels. And so, we're doing that better and we've gotten better at it and we think that that's going to be a good growth engine for us.

When we look at the overall BedInABox market and we look at Google searches, talk to various people, it's clear the industry is still growing, it's clear to us that the pace of that growth has slowed and I might even say slowed significantly. And it's clear within that industry, there are big winners at times and there are some losers.

There is a little bit of a shake-up going on. So, when we look at it in total, we're where we've been for the last, I guess, year, year-and-a-half, which is look, we think there's a market there, obviously, because we got a product in there. But it feels like it's a relatively small market, niche market.

But we'll continue to watch it and to the extent if that's where customers want to buy beds, we're in that channel. But the lion's share of the activity, we clearly believe is in the traditional retailer..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Hughes with SunTrust. Your line is open..

Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc.

Thank you. Question on raw materials; you called out a number of raw material in FX. That's, of course, been the big topic in a variety of manufacturer calls. You gave us sort of a view for raw materials for the year.

And one technical question on the $9.3 million payment from Mattress Firm, it appears that's excluded from adjusted net income, but I think it is included in adjusted EBITDA, if you could tell me if that's correct?.

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

It's included in both, Keith, and just to do that last one first, it's included in both.

And as a reminder, last quarter, in the fourth quarter, we incurred over $13 million of costs, investments essentially into the Mattress Firm profile for store transitions in Stearns & Foster, all that also ran through EBITDA and net income, so that was our thought process and it's kind of offsetting the two at least partially.

On your earlier question as it relates to commodities, largely, our outlook is unchanged from the beginning of the year, when we said we thought that this year we would incur about $15 million of commodity headwind and roughly $12 million of FX headwind as we go through the first quarter.

We're largely in line with our expectations for the full-year, so that's what's kind of embedded in the EBITDA guidance. We've seen steel, foam, raw chemical, be modestly inflationary this year..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Curtis Nagle with Bank of America. Your line is open..

Curtis S. Nagle - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Thanks very much for taking the question.

I was hoping you guys could maybe go into a little more detail about some of the successes you've had, I guess, early successes you've had with your non-Firm partners, are these primarily specialty retailers or specialty bedding retailers, furniture retailers and are any them going, I guess, full exclusive for TPX product?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. The answer to all that is yes. We've made progress with specialty retailers. We've made progress with the furniture companies. And we have, what I'd call, a few Tempur Sealy dominant players that have moved. So, early and as we described it in the prepared remarks, yeah, we've had some early successes.

But this is a process that's going to take some time. But I couldn't be happier with the performance of the sales team, how quickly they got out of the gate from the unexpected termination. And, quite frankly, I'm thrilled so far with the response we've gotten from third-party retailers..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open..

Bradley B. Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Yeah. Good morning, Scott and Barry. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the cost opportunity that you have in front of you here. Scott, you're very explicit in your commitment to driving growth to the best of your abilities the next couple of quarters.

But you've also talked about I think a $75 million to $100 million cost opportunity. What do you think the right time would be to consider starting to make those cuts and are they contemplated at all in your guidance for 2017? Thank you..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

First of all, they're not contemplated in the guidance for 2017. As I think we've explained a couple of times, look, we're going to spend some money and I think we've used the non-official term, that we're going to run a little sloppy, but we're going to run a little sloppy until we understand how the bedding market resets.

I think that's going to take a couple of quarters. And so we're going to run a little sloppy for a couple of quarters and probably take a look at our cost structure later in the year. If we're performing as expected, then I don't think we'll have any actions that we need to implement in that area.

If we're not performing as expected, we clearly have a variable cost structure. We might need to bring down some of the cost and we'd look at that in the fourth quarter of this year as we prepare for 2018..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Karru Mart with Jefferies. Your line is open..

Karru Martinson - Jefferies

Good morning.

Certainly encouraging to hear retailer expansion with some new stores coming, but in terms of immediate changes, I mean are there any additional floor spots that you're gaining with the shift in your customer base?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yes. Yeah, opening new stores takes some time, and there is a good number of very interested parties that would like to open new stores, some existing customers and some new capital into the industry, but as far as the next quarter or so, where the big games will come, will come from traditional retailers in the stores that are currently in place..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Just to add to that with our Sealy launch, we are seeing incremental slotting come through and our Tempur business is also seeing an opportunity for incremental slots and as retailers move this direction to go after that significant amount of revenue that's out there..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah, but I will also say, clearly we watch slot counts and everything very closely, but I also got to tell you that we are very focused on getting the velocity in the slots that we have because that's a net positive for us, but it's also a huge positive for the retailers. So slot velocity is also a big part of the plan..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bob Drbul with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is open..

Robert Drbul - Guggenheim Securities LLC

Hi. Good morning.

I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how you see the demand being impacted by a lot of the discounting that's going on like the longer term Tempur-Pedic brand demand to most current clearance sales, how much pull forward do you think you're seeing? And the second question is with the share repurchase for this quarter, can you just update us your thoughts on share repurchase for the rest of the year?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. On your first question, I really can't touch that, because that might also run into a computation on damages. And as you know, we're currently in litigation with Mattress Firm. So I would prefer not to touch that one. So, I'm going to respectfully pass on damages and how it might impact share or sales.

As to share repurchase, yes, I think what we've said clearly our long-term target for debt is, call it, 3.5 times EBITDA, we're there right now, but clearly our guidance for EBITDA is down some. So we expect to be in, I'll call it, debt payoff mode for the next few quarters. I would expect that we'd be back in share repurchase mode in 2018..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Seth Basham with Wedbush Securities. Your line is open..

Seth M. Basham - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

Thanks a lot, and good morning..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Good morning..

Seth M. Basham - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

I was hoping you could disaggregate a little bit that 13% (40:42) increase in sales to non-Mattress Firm customers.

For exam, do you have a sense of how much floor model sales and inventory loadings drove that growth in Q1? And how would you expect that to trend in future quarters, should we see an acceleration from that 13%?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

There's not many floor models in there...?.

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Ex floor samples, it was actually – grew a little bit faster..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Because if you think about last year, Seth, we had the Stearns & Foster launch ongoing as well as the Breeze launch which were very significant and within the quarter and a little bit in the second quarter and this year our Sealy launch is, while it's more slots, it's a much lower average price and frankly much of it is in the April timeframe in advance of May.

And on the Tempur side, we have a very limited launch, which is really a April phenomenon..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Yeah. So it's a clean number. As far as future recapture percentages, as I said in the prepared remarks, you got to give us a couple of quarters and let us get some more hard market data. So we have a better foundation so we make sure that we give you a glide path that's based in some actual market data as opposed to just studies..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lasser with UBS. Your line is open..

Michael Louis Lasser - UBS Securities LLC

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question.

So we can properly calibrate our model through the second quarter, can you give us some sense of what you're seeing from the non-Mattress Firm business for the first month of the second quarter? And then my follow-up question is, you talked about the more advantageous gross margins on the non-Mattress Firm business, how much of that margin benefit are you going and reinvesting back in the business in order to get preferential treatment from new and existing retail partners, especially as you more aggressively grow your directives? Thanks..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Okay. Let me try some of that and again, I'll let Barry kind of clean it up. As far as current trends, if you look at the non-Mattress Firm revenue, that pot is growing, okay. I'm not sure how to think about it because we are still working through some Mattress Firm liquidation of their inventory.

But we are seeing the non-Mattress Firm revenues in North America grow.

As far as your comment on how we're thinking about investing in the business going forward, look our investment in growing revenue, is in developing great product and it is in both developing and implementing significant advertising dollars, and that's what we'll continue to do in the future..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

The only thing I would add is, look there was a tremendous amount of advertising in the month of April by Mattress Firm around those activities that Scott mentioned, and we're going to support our authorized retailers as we ramp our advertising to try to offset the impact of that as we move forward.

And so we feel good about the fact that, so many of our retailers are seeing a positive trajectory..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Carla Casella with JPMorgan. Your line is open..

Carla Casella - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Hi, just two quick clarification questions.

First, the Mattress Firm, the discounting, they're selling out their floor samples, is that almost all a second quarter hit or is some of that also affecting gross profit margin in the first quarter?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

That hit us in March..

Barry A. Hytinen - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

A little bit in March..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

And continues today..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laura Champine with Roe Equity Research. Your line is open..

Laura Champine - Roe Equity Research

Good morning.

I know that most of your cost structure is variable, but given the loss of Mattress Firm, is there anything that you're doing to today to try to reduce your fixed cost to keep your margin levels intact?.

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Not anything special. I mean I would say, from a company culture standpoint, we're constantly looking at costs and how to become more efficient in everything we do. But I wouldn't say we're doing anything special in that area..

Operator

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Barry Hytinen..

Scott L. Thompson - Tempur Sealy International, Inc.

Thank you. This is Scott. To the 7,000-plus employees worldwide, thank you for what you do every day to make the company successful. To our retail partners, thank you for your outstanding representation of our brands. To our shareholders and lenders, thank you for your confidence in Tempur Sealy's leadership team and the board of directors.

Operator, this ends the call..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day. You may all disconnect..

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