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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q3
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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Sensata Technologies Q3 2021 Earnings Call. . Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jacob Sayer, VP, Finance. Please go ahead..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Sara. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to Sensata's third quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Jeff Cote, Sensata's CEO and President; and Paul Vasington, Sensata's Chief Financial Officer.

In addition to the financial results press release we issued earlier today, we will be referencing a slide presentation during today's call. The PDF of this presentation can be downloaded from Sensata's Investor Relations website.

This conference call is being recorded, and we'll post a replay webcast on our Investor Relations website shortly after the conclusion of today's call. As we begin, I'd like to reference Sensata's Safe Harbor statement on Slide 2.

During this conference call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding future events or the financial performance of the company that involves risks and uncertainties. The company's actual results may differ materially from the projections described in such statements.

Factors that might cause such differences include, but are not limited to, those discussed in our Forms 10-Q and 10-K as well as other subsequent filings with the SEC. On Slide 3, we show Sensata's GAAP results for the third quarter of 2021. We encourage you to review our GAAP financial statements in addition to today's presentation.

Most of the subsequent information that we will discuss during today's call will relate to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of our GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures are included in the earnings release and in our presentation materials.

The company provides details of its segment operating income on Slides 12 and 13 of the presentation, which are the primary measures management uses to evaluate the performance of the business.

Jeff will begin today’s call with highlights of our business during the third quarter of 2021, followed by a quick review of our first sustainability report published recently. He will then provide an update on recent progress in our key Electrification and Sensata insights, strategic growth areas.

Paul will cover our detailed financials for the third quarter of 2021, including organic revenue growth and market outgrowth by business as well as segment performance. And he will also provide financial guidance for the fourth quarter of 2021. We will then take your questions after our prepared remarks.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Sensata's CEO and President, Jeff Cote..

Jeffrey Cote

Thank you, Jacob, and welcome, everyone. I'd like to start with some summary thoughts on our strong performance during the third quarter of 2021, as outlined on Slide 4. The business recovery that began this time last year continue during the third quarter.

We responded effectively to increased customer demand which drove 20.6% revenue growth from the prior year period to $951 million, slightly above the guidance range we provided in July.

While automotive production was constrained during the quarter due to supply chain shortages, we were able to deliver our customers orders and produce strong financial results for shareholders. Looking at our performance year-over-year, we once again produced strong market outgrowth well above our target ranges.

As a company, we delivered 1,100 and 90 basis points of outgrowth during the quarter. However, outgrowth is something that we monitor over a longer period of time than one quarter.

And since 2018 on average, we’ve produced 570 basis points of outgrowth as a company, driven by a 1,050 basis points of outgrowth in our heavy vehicle, off-road business and 650 basis points of outgrowth in our automotive business. This demonstrates the vital role we provide for our customers in these key markets.

Paul will discuss our strong revenue outgrowth in more detail. Sensata's revenue outgrowth to market will increasingly be driven by our enhanced positioning in megatrend areas. We continue to invest in these growth initiatives both organically and inorganically.

With Xirgo and now the pending acquisitions of Spear Power Systems and SmartWitness expanding not only our capabilities, but also our access to end markets, and product portfolios in these pivotal areas. Already we have seen strong revenue growth coming from our electrification activities.

With more than $220 million estimated revenue this year, we expect continued significant growth in our megatrend areas over the coming years, driven by electrification trends, the infrastructure requirements to support electrification and the proliferation of IoT on stationary and mobile equipment.

Sensata today is in a very strong financial position, in part because of our excellent performance over the past year. We have generated more than $530 million in free cash flow over the past 12 months.

And our current cash balance of $2 billion enables Sensata to continue to acquire targeted, innovative businesses that will expand our presence in our targeted growth vectors.

During the third quarter, we benefited from our resilient, flexible and focused organization that continues to successfully navigate the ever changing supply chain landscape and deliver on our customers' needs. Not surprisingly, we continue to see elevated cost related to the worldwide material shortages and logistics costs.

We are working diligently to limit those effects, including a different commercial approach with our customers. This is a challenging exercise, but very necessary under the current circumstances.

Despite these elevated costs, we delivered $201 million in adjusted operating income during the quarter, representing 21.1% in operating margin, substantially higher than the prior year period. I'd like to recognize the innovation, agility and hard work of our entire team achieving these strong results during the third quarter.

During the quarter, Sensata published its first sustainability report and we're very proud of our progress in these areas. Virtually every products Sensata makes today resulted in cleaner, safer and more efficient world. We also take our responsibility to reduce the carbon emissions from our own operations and our supply chain very seriously.

To that end, we are targeting a 10% reduction in our greenhouse gas emissions intensity by 2026. And we have established a goal to be carbon neutral by 2050, in line with leading companies around the world.

In addition, our report addresses sustainability topics core to Sensata's mission, including diversity, equity, inclusion and responsible sourcing. We believe that diversity benefits our employees, customers and shareholders and that a diverse workforce provides or makes us a better company.

We have established goals for our leadership team to improve female representation and management roles at Sensata to 30%, and to reach 25% racial diversity in U.S management roles by 2026, while reducing turnover, improving internal development and promotion rates.

We are serious about achieving meaningful progress against these goals and consequently are tying a portion of senior executives short-term incentive compensation to annual improvements. We look forward to keeping all our stakeholders updated on these and other important ESG initiatives in the coming years. Moving to Slide 6.

Sensata is making excellent progress in winning new business and electrification components, in part because we take a holistic view of electrification and its growing impact on all the segments we serve. Electric light vehicles capture a lot of attention.

And Sensata provides the manufacturers of these vehicles with not only new EV specific components, but also with many of our innovative and differentiated components from traditional vehicles, like braking, tire and environmental control.

Specific to EVs, we also provide and are developing several components that enable safe and efficient operation of electrified platforms, such as high voltage electrical protection, advanced temperature sensing, highly sensitive electric motor position, and next generation current sensing.

As an example, during the third quarter, we were awarded new e-motor position business with a large European OEM representing $2.6 million in annual revenue. In addition, we benefit from the upgrading of certain systems in EVs.

For example, when the climate control system is upgraded to a heat pump, to manage the temperature of both the cabin as well as the battery pack, the sensor packages upgraded and Sensata benefits. In the important area of braking, Sensata is a global leader. During the quarter, we won two new business opportunities that were significant.

One with brake system leader Continental for new electronic stability control systems, covering both traditional internal combustion engine vehicles as well as a greater than 11 million in new business on electric vehicles that further extends our leadership position in that market.

We have described the revenue increase that we received from EVs as compared to internal combustion vehicles, in terms of an average 20% uplift in content per vehicle. This is a demonstrated figure based on actual revenues and vehicle production. Our design win activity within electrification has been growing rapidly.

We saw an 80% rise in electrification wins last year. And so far this year, approximately 50% of our automotive design wins are with electric vehicles, another dramatic uptick from the prior periods.

Looking forward based upon the business wins we're gaining and the products we are developing, we estimate that our battery electric vehicle content is on path to double that of an internal combustion engine vehicle on average within 5 years.

On Slide 7, we show how Sensata is expanding in clean energy solutions, moving up the stack from high voltage components used by large customers with the resources to design these into their electrified offerings to subsystems and full battery energy storage systems for customers in a multitude of end markets.

Electrification is happening everywhere, not just in passenger vehicles.

Manufacturers are bikes, heavy trucks, material handling equipment, marine vessels and even aircraft and spacecraft are addressing ever tightening greenhouse gas emissions regulations and taking advantage of falling battery costs to provide electrified solutions to their customers.

However, not all of these customers can design all aspects of the electrified solution in-house.

Thanks to capabilities we have added via acquisition, Sensata can now provide either the subsystem of assembled components to manage battery charging in the form of a power distribution unit, or using technology for lithium balance and Spear Power, we can provide the full energy storage system, including battery management and a customized battery pack.

By providing a full suite of offerings, our electrification and clean energy solutions, serviceable addressable market expands dramatically, reaching 15 billion by 2030.

As an example of the solutions we offer, during the quarter, a large premier European heavy vehicle OEM awarded Sensata on the design for a megawatt size charging unit to help power their future electric commercial vehicles.

This strategically important business win is worth more than $20 million in annualized revenue once it reaches its expected production run rate. Its pivotal development, means we can increase our content per heavy truck from the current 100 to 200 on average to more than 1,000 per electric heavy vehicle.

In addition, through the pending acquisition of Spear Power, we can provide full battery storage systems for a variety of specialty transportation markets. For example, Spear is powering electric ferries, including the upgrading to electric of the Washington State ferry system.

These are highly demanding solutions that include very robust safety features proprietary to Spear and we are -- excited about the role Spear is playing in these and other land, sea and air transportation markets.

Similar to what we did for our Insights group back in June, in early 2022, we will webcast a covering our electrification components and clean energy solutions initiatives. So listeners can gain a better understanding of our offerings, the evolving markets and our go-to-market strategies in these key growth vectors for Sensata.

We look forward to sharing more details about these rapidly growing and evolving areas then. On Slide 8, we share an update on our continued progress in Sensata Insights. The Insights initiative addresses a fast and growing market and we're pleased by the traction we are gaining with both current and new customers across various sectors.

The ongoing widespread semiconductor shortage is constraining our Insights business, and we are unable to deliver on all of that expanding demand. You'll recall that these solutions are designed into customers fleets, the revenue is sticky, and so our orders are billing -- building for future delivery.

Once the shortages subside our Insights order book for delivery over the next 12 months now stands at more than 85 million, as evidenced by the value added nature of our solutions.

We were recently awarded new business with telematics service providers in large -- a large global shipping company, together worth more than $9 million in revenue over the next 12 months.

I'm also pleased to announce the expansion of our Insight offering with the pending acquisition of SmartWitness, a privately held innovator of video telematics technology for heavy and light duty fleets.

SmartWitness solutions comprised proprietary software and hardware, purpose built for telematics service providers providing a complimentary fit with our insights Business.

Since its founding in 2007, SmartWitness has been a pioneer in video telematics that expands on traditional offerings to include contextually aware data capture that enhances the monitoring of vehicles, their surroundings -- and their surroundings to increase safety and lower insurance cost for fleets.

SmartWitness systems are logging 50 million miles of information every day. In some, I'm -- we are really encouraged by our continued progress in our megatrend growth initiatives.

As I've said before, we see numerous opportunities to utilize our strong financial position, our engineering capabilities, our supply chain and our customer relationships to meaningfully enlarge our addressable markets through organic efforts as well as bolt-on acquisitions and partnerships within these megatrends.

I'd now like to turn the call over to Paul..

Paul Vasington

Thank you, Jeff. Key highlights in the third quarter. As shown on Slide 10 include, revenue of $951 million, an increase of 20.6% from the third quarter of 2020. Organic revenue increased 16.6%. The acquisition of Xirgo increased revenue by 2.3% and changes in foreign currency increased revenue by 1.7%.

Adjusted operating income was $201 million, an increase of 29.8% compared to the third quarter of 2020, primarily due to higher revenues, partially offset by elevated costs related to the industry wide supply chain shortages, higher spend to support megatrend growth initiatives and higher incentive compensation align to improve financial performance.

Adjusted net income was $138.6 million, an increase of 33.8% compared to the third quarter of 2020, largely due to the significant increase in operating income. Adjusted EPS was $0.87 in the third quarter, an increase of 31.8% compared to the prior quarter.

Now, I will discuss our performance by end market in the third quarter of 2021 as outlined on Slide 11. Organic revenue increase of 16.6% year-on-year includes market growth of 470 basis points, and outgrowth of 1,190 basis points, again demonstrating Sensata's ability to consistently outgrow its end markets..

being installed in new off-road equipment.

Our automotive business posted an organic revenue increase of 5.2%, representing end market contraction of 21.6% and 1,150 basis points of market outgrowth. Our automotive business benefited from new product launches in powertrain and emissions, safety and electrification related applications and systems.

Recall, we saw an approximate $35 million inventory contraction a year-ago as the automotive industry ramped up production from slowdowns -- shutdowns earlier in 2020. In addition, we were able to fulfill customers orders within the current quarter even if those shipments exceeded the eventual production in the quarter due to other component delays.

Within the third quarter of 2021, we estimate an incremental build quarter-over-quarter of approximately $35 million of inventory at our customers. Our industrial business revenue increased 17.9% organically as global industrial end markets continued to recover in the quarter.

Strong growth and new electrification launches and heating, ventilation and air conditioning enabled our industrial business to grow faster than market this quarter. Our aerospace business increased 8.3% organically, reflecting somewhat improved OEM production in air traffic that later drives our aerospace aftermarket business.

New product launches, primarily in defense and improvements in aftermarket, enabled our aerospace business to grow faster than market this quarter. Now I'd like to comment on the performance of our two business segments in the third quarter of 2021. Starting with Performance Sensing on Slide 12.

Our Performance Sensing business reported revenues of $706.5 million, an increase of 21.6% compared to the same quarter last year. Excluding the positive impact from foreign currency of 1.8% and the positive impact on the Xirgo acquisition of 3.1%, Performance Sensing delivered 16.7% organic revenue growth.

Performance Sensing operating income was $193.7 million, an increase of 27.8% as compared to the same quarter last year, with operating margins of 27.4%. The increase in segment operating income was primarily due to higher revenues somewhat offset by elevated costs related to the industry-wide supply chain shortage.

Performance Sensing generate incremental margin of 37% in the quarter of higher organic revenue as compared to the prior year period. As shown on Slide 13, Sensing Solutions reported revenues of $244.6 million in the third quarter of 2021, an increase of 17.9% as compared to the same quarter last year.

Excluding the positive impact from foreign currency of 1.5%, Sensing Solutions delivered 16.4% organic revenue growth. Sensing Solutions operating income was $75.3 million, an increase of 29.3% from the same quarter last year, with operating margins of 30.8%. The increase in segment operating income was primarily due to higher revenues.

Sensing Solutions generate incremental margin of 46% in the third quarter, and higher organic revenue as compared to the prior period. On Slide 14, corporate and other operating expenses not included in segment operating income were $72.7 million in the third quarter of 2021.

Excluding charges added back to our non-GAAP results, corporate and other costs were $65.7 million, an increase of $12.3 million from the prior quarter, reflecting higher research and development and business development spent to support our megatrend growth initiatives and higher global incentive compensation costs aligned to our improving financial performance.

Slide 15 shows Sensata' s third quarter 2021 non-GAAP results. Adjusted operating income increased 29.8% compared to the same quarter last year and adjusted operating margin increased 150 basis points to 21.1%.

The increase in both adjusted gross margin and adjusted operating margin largely reflects the rapid increase in revenue from depressed levels experienced last year due to COVID-19 pandemic, offset somewhat by increased costs related to industry-wide supply chain shortages, net of recovery of some of these costs from customers.

We've included on the slide an adjusted operating income margin loss from the third quarter of 2020 to the third quarter of 2021. As shown on Slide 16, we generate $80 million in free cash flow during the third quarter.

Free cash flow was impacted in the quarter by our decision to increase raw material purchases early in the quarter in order to maximize production flexibility, given the widespread parts shortages in our supply chain.

For the full year, we currently expect free cash flow conversion to be approximately 80% of adjusted net income as a result of higher inventory levels. For the full year 2021, we expect capital expenditures to be in the range of $145 million to $155 million.

Sensata's net debt to EBITDA ratio was 2.5x at the end of September, the bottom end of our target operating net leverage range. Sensata's primary use of cash on hand is to acquire businesses that will extend our market position within our key growth factors of electrification and Insights.

In addition, we intend to resume our share repurchase program within the fourth quarter. And as noted, we have 302 million available on our current purchase authorization. We are providing financial guidance for the fourth quarter of 2021 as shown on Slide 17. Our expectations are based upon the end market outlook that I will discuss momentarily.

We expect to generate revenues between $895 million and $9205 million in the fourth quarter of 2021, representing a reported revenue change between 1% decline and 2% growth compared to the fourth quarter of 2020. With the impact of foreign currency, increasing revenues at the midpoint of guidance by about $2.6 million.

Excluding the impact of foreign currency in the Xirgo acquisition, we expect an organic revenue change ranging from a 3% decline to flat in the fourth quarter. Our current fill rate is approximately 95% of the revenue guidance midpoint for the fourth quarter. We expect to report adjusted operating income between $180 million and $190 million.

At the midpoint, adjusted operating income margin is expected to be 20.3%, which includes 100 basis points of increased operating costs associated with global supply chain shortages net of customer recovery actions.

On the bottom line, we expect to report adjusted net income between $121 million and $131 million and adjusted EPS between $0.76 and $0.82, which includes a $0.02 increase from foreign currency at the guidance midpoint.

At the bottom of the slide, we’ve provided an adjusted operating income margin walk from the fourth quarter of 2020 to the fourth quarter of 2021. On Slide 18, we provided our revised estimates for OEM production growth for 2021 as compared to the expectations we shared in late July.

We currently expect automotive productions to be down approximately 3% this year from last year, given ongoing production slowdowns caused by global supply chain shortages.

Our outlook is more conservative than IHS automotive production estimates for the fourth quarter, as we do not see production constraints from the global supply chain shortages lifting in the near-term.

While we are not sharing specifics yet, the current IHS global automotive production expectations of 10% growth in 2022 suggest that supply chain shortages will be considerably next year, a view we do not share given current trends. We intend to provide detailed financial guidance for 2022 during our fourth quarter earnings call in early February.

However, at a high level, we currently expect Sensata's revenue growth in 2022 to align with the growth framework we have previously shared. Sensata's revenue by end market should grow consistent with each markets production growth, plus our target outgrowth for approximately 400 to 500 basis points across the whole company.

In addition, we intend to continue our serial M&A approach to further expand our market position. In our megatrend areas, we aim to have this activity at a material amount to revenue growth each year. Now let me turn the call back to Jeff for closing comments..

Jeffrey Cote

Thanks, Paul. Let me wrap up with a few key messages as outlined on Slide 19.

Sensata has responded very well to the rapid changes in many of our end markets, demonstrating the strength, resiliency and reliability of our business and organizational model, which enabled us to capitalize on this recovery in the end market demand and deliver for our customers.

Our quick response to shifting demand positions us well as a trusted resource for our customers. We are delivering consistently robust end market outgrowth.

We remain confident in our ability to sustain this attractive end market outgrowth into the future based on our strong levels of new business awards and our large and expanding pipeline of new opportunities.

We continue to invest in our megatrend driven growth initiatives that are opening up large and rapidly growing opportunities for Sensata across all of our end markets.

We are making excellent progress in electrified components, clean energy solutions and Sensata Insights, both through organically targeted areas around new business and through inorganic activity associated with bolt-on acquisitions.

We continue to believe that the overall business environment provides interesting opportunities to further strengthen our portfolio through strategically important value creating acquisitions and/or joint ventures.

In addition, we are pursuing new technology collaborations and partnerships with third parties to expand our capabilities and accelerate our megatrend driven growth potential. We expect to continue to deliver industry leading margins for our shareholders, while also increasing investments in our growth opportunities and our people.

And finally, I'm excited about Sensata's long standing mission to help create a cleaner, safer and more connected world, not just for our customers products, but also through our own operations. We believe we are meaningfully contributing to a better world.

We are incorporating ESG considerations into our strategy, as illustrated in our new sustainability report to bolster the long-term sustainability and success of the company for all of its stakeholders. We look forward to reporting more about our progress in these areas in future updates. Now, I'll turn the call back to Jacob..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Jeff. We'll now move to Q&A. Given the large number of listeners on the call, please limit yourself to one question each. Sara, please go ahead and assemble the Q&A roster..

Operator

Our first question comes from Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Please go ahead..

Wamsi Mohan

Yes, thank you. I was wondering if you could maybe just give us some more color on the channel fill dynamics, how broad based this is? If we use $30 to $40 of content per vehicle, we're talking about roughly a million units.

But the production changes are quite large and Jeff you know that, that going into '22, it seems that IHS maybe is a bit too optimistic.

So is the guide sort of a 4Q encapsulating all the channel inventory dynamics? Or do you think this persist into 2022? And if I could, could you also just maybe quickly talk about the China issues both around power rationalization and resurgence of COVID, if you're seeing any impact from that? Thank you so much..

Jeffrey Cote

Sure. So let me touch on Q4. So IHS forecasts automotive production at about 16.5, 16.6. We've called it lower than that about 15 million. In addition, given that we know there has been some of our part -- parts built up in inventory, we are expecting a little bit of depletion on that.

I think that's a little bit of a conservative guide, but we're watching it closely. We want to make sure that we're not going above and beyond to deliver for customers so they could just have it sit in inventory.

We'd rather address that as it occurs and serve other customers, because the shortage is impacting all of our customers and all of the end markets. As it relates to 2022, a couple of dynamics there.

Obviously, we're not providing guidance for '22, but we like to look ahead as everybody does, specific as it relates to the automotive market, the call right now, traditionally, IHS has been a little bit more aggressive in terms of their call.

When we look at the supply chain challenges that we're facing, the bad news is I think it will extend into 2022. The good news is that based upon the commit levels that we're seeing from our suppliers, which suggests that fourth quarter may be the low point in terms of the ability to deliver.

So as some of that capacity -- increased capacity comes online, we think there will be a mitigation from the fourth quarter level, so it will start to taper a little bit. So we'll keep monitoring that and give a perspective. But we're very mindful of that. We're mindful of the inventory that's been built.

We're also mindful of the fact that North American vehicle inventory is at an all-time low 24 days. So that's going to need to be replenished at some point. So there are a lot of moving parts in terms of the overall look. And obviously, you have to look at the other end markets that we serve. Automotive is a big one that we serve.

When you look at the others, there's continued opportunity for growth in those markets as we go into Q4 and also into 2022. And I've lost -- the question on China, I think is just around what's happening there in terms of COVID and so forth. The business is operating quite well there.

It's amazing how resilient we have been, but everybody has been in terms of managing through this. We don't see any impact right now in terms of COVID, other than we're continuing with protocols. In the U.S., we're addressing the executive order associated with vaccine mandates.

So there's still a lot of stuff that's happening in terms of engagement with our employees and making sure we keep them safe. But all in, I feel as though it's become a little bit of the new norm for us, and we're managing through that very well. Hopefully that answers your question, Wamsi..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Wamsi..

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Sheerin with Stifel. Please go ahead..

Matt Sheerin

Yes, thank you and good morning. Jeff, I just wanted to ask regarding your comment about doubling the EV content in light vehicles in the next 5 years from the base of about, I guess 20% incremental content today.

Where in that product portfolio would you see that coming? Is that from your existing products and technologies? Or are there other incremental products or areas that you're looking at?.

Jeffrey Cote

A little of both, but candidly, based upon my comments, I think the listeners probably can appreciate that we tend to be fairly digital in terms of what we've demonstrated. We had a lot of feedback that the 20% uplift was good, but not hugely exciting. We went back and realize that, that is demonstrated capability that we're experiencing right now.

We've seen a very dramatic uplift in the wins that we've seen around electrified components with our automotive OEMs, but also with our other customers. We've talked about power distribution units and other major wins associated with electrification.

We’ve now done is gone back and said, okay, based upon the transition that we would expect, no one's going to get it perfectly right. But we know there's going to be a transition to migration more toward electrified vehicles. As we look at that, and we also look at what we've sold with customers already, we see a line of sight to that doubling.

The thing is we quote net NBOs. So when there's a -- there isn't a new socket, but it's the same socket in the new application that wouldn't count toward our NBO growth. And as we've said, there's a lot of content on vehicles that applies in battery electric vehicles as well as internal combustion engines, so we don't have to refill that pipeline.

But a further evaluation of that trend, continued wins, more investment that we're making, partnerships we're striking, allow us to feel very confident in that trend in terms of being able to double the content per vehicle. Hopefully that's helpful..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Matt..

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Daryanani with Evercore. Please go ahead..

Amit Daryanani

Yes. Thanks a lot and thanks for taking my question. I guess my question really, Jeff, to you, but I think when you talk about the December quarter guide, you're sort of implying that Sensata's auto revenues will undergo auto production trends as that’s due to depletion of your inventory that's sitting in the channel.

Is that fair -- is there a way to think about how much extra inventory of Sensata is out in the channel and how long does it take to normalize? And if I could just ask, Paul, could you just remind me how does the cash flow revert back to this 80% conversion? And does that happen in December or does that -- is it more a calendar '22 narrative?.

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, so I'll hit the Q4 and then Paul can hit the other topic. So we've already stated we are expecting about a 1.5 million units less than IHS in terms of actual production in the fourth quarter. But we also expect some of the inventory in the supply chain to deplete. So that's baked into the guide that we provided for the fourth quarter.

In terms of the amount of inventory, call it a $100 million to $125 million of inventory across the company that's been built, that's been largely for the last year, that's been largely focused in auto.

But I would also point out that if you also look at the North American vehicle inventory of 24 days, just replenishing that back to a more normalized 50, or 60, would absorb a lot of that inventory of market.

But as that production occurs as that production is quoted, assuming our customers actually normalize their raw inventory, we will see production exceed our revenue. Now, I think, it's a bit of a discussion that we're having with customers, because they want all the parts we can make for them, right.

They want to make sure that given the complexity of their builds, they're very willing to carry a little bit more raw material now, but we want to make sure again that we're serving all of our customers. And it makes no sense for us to pay higher logistics cost and expedite these to get customers product that sit in their inventory.

So that's an ongoing dialogue that we're having and we'll continue to manage it very closely and give you updates as we see it..

Paul Vasington

So the question I think, is the 80% version relates to 2021. It's lower than we originally anticipated when we started the year and we made a conscious decision to build inventory, take our raw materials earlier to make sure that we were able to serve customers conscious decision.

For next year, I mean, we've been looking at a free cash conversion rate in the mid 80s. And that's what we're going to continue to target as good performance ..

Amit Daryanani

Okay..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Amit..

Operator

Our next question comes from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead..

Mark Delaney

Yes, good morning and thanks very much for taking the question. So when you can elaborate on the supply chain dynamic that's underpinning some of the more cautious comments the company is providing as it thinks about the outlook for 4Q and also into next year.

What are some of the most difficult things as it relates to supply chain for Sensata? Any particular components that are most short for the company. And if you could talk about the shortages you're seeing not only for Sensata, but what you think is maybe impacting some of your customers as well and any added color on that I think will be helpful.

Thanks..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, sure. So first, obviously, it's an industry issue. I think everybody understands that it's not specific to Sensata. It's most acute in electronics at the foundry level. So capacity at the foundry level, I think these are sort of pretty well known facts and that capacity takes a while to get put in place.

Now, over the last 18 months, as that's been happening, obviously, our suppliers have been moving their capacity around to serve needs. I think we've done really well in terms of getting our fair share of that allocation. So that's a very positive thing. It's beyond electronics, though. I mean, we all experience it in our every day.

Everything is short, right? Supply chain issues, not only a capacity demand question, but just logistics in general was very challenged in terms of finding labor to unload container trucks and so forth. So it continues to be a problem that everyone is experiencing. As we talked about in the past, many of our electronics are customized.

So we feel as though we've been impacted less as a result of that, because in a lot of cases those are areas that our suppliers would focus on as opposed to more standard off the shelf electronics. Candidly, that's what's impacting our Insights business a little more.

The solution is differentiated and customized, but a lot of the electronics that go into it are more standard. So we're seeing a little bit more of a shortage and a crunch, when there are standard ASICs that we're going after.

And the last point I would make here is, during 2021, first half of the year, we were being partners with our customers and we didn't go after a lot of this cost recovery. But in the second half of '21, we've had more direct conversations with them. We've had some very good success.

And given that this is going to continue, both in terms of raw material costs and logistics costs, we're having those conversations with customers to make sure that Sensata shareholders are not the ones that take the hit.

We want to be good partners, we want to deliver, but we need to share and the costs associated with making sure we can continue to deliver..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Mark..

Operator

Our next question comes from Luke Junk with Robert. Please go ahead..

Luke Junk

Yes, thanks and good morning, Jeff. I was hoping you could comment further on the view that, that content here is on a path to double within the next 5 years.

And I was hoping if we could specifically talk about some of the key levers and drivers that you're looking at, in particular, any products you see growing in importance for Sensata? And maybe the best lens to look at this would be directionally if we look at power related products versus traditional sensing products.

Is there -- any additional color would be appreciated. Thank you..

Jeffrey Cote

Sure. Yes, so if you were to rewind the clock 3, 5 years, most of our components were obviously serving largely combustion engines. We've been very transparent about the activity that we've been undergoing in terms of M&A activity and additional engineering investment to make sure that we can serve our customers going forward.

So that's the backdrop, right. We've always talked about the fact that although we have expertise in individual sensing parameters, pressure as an example, temperature position, we have thousands of products that we bring to our customers.

We say -- we take modular technology and we package it in a way that serves the application with those traditional sensing parameters. It's not a lot different in the electrified world. So if you think about contact or capability, we have the GIGAVAC capability, we have the capability with higher levitation.

We have the e-motor position that we've transformed from Position Sensors that we have. We have building capability around current sensing. A lot of our pressure and temperature apply in terms of the environment for an electric platform. So the goal is not to have one capability that we're relying on.

It's to make sure that we're ubiquitous in terms of an EV platform. And the combination of the capabilities and product solutions that we have pour over built on by the other applications, like high voltage current sensing and also protection.

We feel as though we've got a really good portfolio right now to be able to go to customers and help them solve the challenges that they're facing. We'll continue to work at it, right. I mean, it's a very small portion of the fleet yet but there are a lot of wins that we're getting associated with solutions that we're bringing to our customers.

And it's been a very rapid growth of development around opportunities as we're working with those customers to bring things to market very quickly. And that trend has created more confidence in our ability to see this being a real significant tailwind to us as a company..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Luke..

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Johnson with Barclays. Please go ahead..

Brian Johnson

Thank you. Just want to flesh out a little bit more the inventory question. I guess, first question is, a lot of the pure auto suppliers have very severe decrementals due to tough nature of production in the quarter.

Is most of the work you do in automotive from a catalogue and therefore not customized to an OEM and does that allow you to have smoother decrementals when one model, one factory is up, one factory is down on your customers end?.

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, definitely not every one of our products. We have 15,000 different products that we bring to customers, they're not dropped in, they are very much customized to the application, many very frequently sole sourced with them.

I would just say that we've built inventory and we've -- I think we've managed through this better, we're not the bottleneck, right with our customers, which is a nice place to be. We're in escalation with a lot of customers. But I'll tell you, I've talked with a lot of them and the feedback I get is we're not the biggest problem. That's good.

I like not being the biggest problem and I'm okay with building a little bit of inventory to give a buffer, if you will, to our customers. But I do want to make sure that it doesn't get out of hand because eventually it's going to come around, right. They're going to take that inventory out at some point and then we'll lag the performance.

So we don't want great performance during a tough time to result in a negative in the long-term. So we're keeping a close eye on it..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Brian..

Operator

Our next question comes from Samik Chatterjee with JPMorgan. Please go ahead..

Samik Chatterjee

Yes. Hi. It's Samik Chatterjee. Hey, Jeff, I guess when you outline the content outperformance since 2018 and I think previously the narrative was about 400 to 600 basis points outperformance and you've consistently done better than that in both autos as well as heavy vehicle.

So I'm just thinking with the roadmap that you have on electrification and battery electric vehicles, when -- what are you taking in terms of visibility in terms of raising that performance guide? And is it -- are there any concerns about hitting air pocket as the transition happens in the industry? Or is it pretty much smooth sailing from here in that content outperformance should really start continue to build from that level? Thank you..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes. Thanks, Samik. So historically we referenced outgrowth in automotive and HVOR. I think to just make the story simpler -- and by the way, we did that because mix in the business and how it grows and so forth. We did it to create more transparency, but I fear that we might have complicated the story.

At the end of the day, our goal is to make sure that as a company we have outgrowth over market. We know markets will ebb and flow. That's the nature of the end markets that we serve. And that's why we've quoted the 570 basis points into 18, across the company.

It's really driven by HVOR and auto, but we do see outgrowth in industrial and aerospace as well just not as pronounced. The call for 400 to 500 go-forward and our confidence in that, again, it's what we have really strong confidence in, that more near-term outgrowth exceeding the targets. It has a lot to do with -- you are off a smaller base in 2020.

So once we get into a more normalized environment, we would expect those outgrowth numbers to normalize a little bit. And so we just want more time where we've demonstrated beating the target before we raise. We're going to share what we have a high level of confidence in. But certainly we've demonstrated the ability to do better than what we've said.

We’re -- we'll aim to keep doing that, but we feel really comfortable with the 400 to 500 across the company and then the other quotes of 4 to 6 in auto and 6 to 8 in HVOR going forward. So hopefully that helps..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Samik..

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Filatov with Berenberg. Please go ahead..

Michael Filatov

Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for the time. Just on the doubling of the EV content, not to beat a dead horse there. Just the margin profile of that extra content you're seeing on electric vehicles, because maybe talk about how that'll impact sort of the business margin.

And maybe where that margin profile is more attractive within the actual electric vehicle content mix..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes. So we exclusively focus on really hard to do applications that we'll get with that -- we will achieve differentiated margins.

So we steer very clear of commoditized applications that -- and use commoditized that's probably unfair applications that can be served with semiconductor packaging, that don't require any sophisticated packaging and calibration, environmental control for harsh environments. They're valuable socket, but others can serve them.

Where we do really well is in applications that are hard to do in harsh environments. And that's where we bring a lot of capabilities. We always focus on them, right. And so we're not going to deviate. That generates premier margins that we experience as a company. Now, let me speak to how that will transition on new product launches.

We've always seen new products that are at lower volumes have lower margins. As they ramp, right, you're getting the kinks worked out of automated manufacturing, you're gaining scale on your raw materials, you're utilizing your factory capabilities in terms of absorption, your yield start to increase dramatically. But we're factoring that in.

We don't see this transition as being hugely disruptive, the long-term margin profile of these products that we're engaging with our customers on, we'll continue to have that differentiated margin profile that we have as an organization, as a company. And we'll continue to make sure we do that. It's not -- it doesn't just happen, right.

It's the building of the scale. It's making sure that we're constantly redesigning, sourcing differently to make sure that we can drive the margin profile and make sure that we're competitive from a cost standpoint..

Jacob Sayer

Thank you, Michael..

Operator

Our next question comes from William Stein with Truist Securities. Please go ahead..

William Stein

Thanks for taking my question. We spoken quite a bit about inventory levels. But I still have a question about it. I'm looking to hopefully distil all of it into one comment.

So can you remind us to what degree the inventory that you -- the excess inventory and your customers that you cited last quarter, do you believe was in raw form to them? In other words, they were holding your park versus in a car that was 99% complete, just waiting for one semiconductor to drop in.

Can you also remind us the dollar inventory you believe was in excess last quarter, what that is this quarter again, because a couple numbers, but I might have missed it.

And then the timing, that you expect that inventory to be depleted? And if that wasn't enough, maybe also talk about the planned inventory builds that we've heard OEMs want to do for strategic components. Does that affect your part build planned. Sorry for the long winded question. Thank you..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, Will, I will try. To spell this out in something simple. So we both -- we believe that our customers have built about 25 million of inventory in Q2 and 35 this quarter. And so we're shipping to them above production.

With that said, given the fact that we think we're very good supplier, we're not at bottleneck, the assumption would be and there's no facts to support this that, that a lot of our parts are probably sitting in vehicles that are work in progress that will get released to the market at some point.

Given the fact that we're shipping well, we're having lots of discussions to meet there were demands there's a lot of anxiety in the supply chain..

Paul Vasington

So that's how I would stack it up in terms of what's happening this year. Hard to say when it's going to unwind. But to Jeff's point, there's a lot of inventory levels in the dealerships are very low. So likely, that's something that will need to get rebuilt and so that's positive. It's a positive tailwind to the -- to what being seen right now.

I don't think that's going to change much of the current supply chain constraints that we're seeing, but it's a slightly longer term mitigating factor to some of the inventory that’s been built in the channel today..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks for the question, Will..

Operator

Our next question comes from Nick Todorov with Longbow. Please go ahead..

Nikolay Todorov

Yes. Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Jeff, I think I heard you talked about implementing differentiated or different commercial approach to addressing the rising costs.

Maybe can you expand there, what are you doing differently? When you negotiate those with direct customers? And maybe can you talk about how much of the installation costs you've seen so far, you've been able to pass through to direct customers so far this year? And how should investors think about once we start a new calendar year in terms of passing through those.

Thanks..

Jeffrey Cote

Sure. So 2021, we've recovered about half of the cost that we've incurred. And given that we're expecting those cost to continue, we're going to aim to get all of that going forward. Certainly, we've been able to achieve that in Q3 and Q4.

So I'd mention that the first half of the year, we sort of held off on that until we determine whether or not it was going to be persistent. And it's not one size fits all, every customer is different. And the trade offs are unique.

And so -- but it's very strategic in terms of how we're engaging with customers to optimize all of the levers that we have available, but we're committed to making sure that we serve our customers, but that we share in the cost associated with achieving that..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Nick..

Operator

Our next question comes from Rod Lache with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead..

Shreyas Patil

Hey, thanks. This is Shreyas on for Rod. So just wanted to clarify a couple of points. So I think you had mentioned earlier there were about -- there was about $100 million to $125 million of inventory bill that you've experienced so far this year.

So should we be assuming that inventory basically unwinds as we go through Q4 and then probably into next year. And is that embedded in that 4 to 5 points of growth over market that you were kind of talking about before.

And then you mentioned that you're starting to see a recovery in some of the supply chain costs that you've been incurring this year.

So does that suggest that, all else equal, the headwind that you're experiencing this year would likely moderate if you continue to receive those recoveries?.

Paul Vasington

And so, it's Paul. A couple of things. We talked -- there's a year-over-year impact that after taking into consideration. Last year contracting, this year where they're building. So we look at it on a year-on-year basis. It's bigger than whatever got built this year, because we had inventory contracting last year.

As it relates to Q4, we've been benefiting from this build, shipping above production. In Q4, we're assuming we're going to be pretty much delivering to production. But last year where there was a contraction, so it's how you want to think about year-over-year versus sequential.

But just think of Q4 as largely related to the production that's being estimated -- we're estimating 50 is what we're going to serve, 50 million cars in the fourth quarter..

Jeffrey Cote

And the only other thing I mentioned is I think you commented about the outgrowth, we exclude inventory from the outgrowth that we. Very end market when its material..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Rod..

Jeffrey Cote

For I guess..

Jacob Sayer

Our next question comes Joseph Spak with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead..

Joseph Spak

Thanks so much. And not to beat a dead horse here, but I know you're sort of talking about your fourth quarter outlook below IHS and I know we got to make some adjustments, because you look at it on your mix basis and exclude Xirgo et cetera.

But even if you do that, it seems like production is at least flattish, if not still higher than the third quarter, and then you're guiding the total revenues down sequentially. So it does seem like you're assuming a good amount of that inventory unwinds. And I'm just trying to understand that because you're going back Paul, to your comments.

I mean, it seems like automakers might not really be in a position to have that happen in the near-term, given the dealer inventory situation. So I just want to try to square those two sentiments.

Paul Vasington

To try and keep it simple. I mean, our Q3 revenue production was 14.4. But we benefited from it from inventory build, right. In Q4, production is 15 million, so with about 4% we're not assuming that inventory builds will continue. That's the difference in our automotive businesses, slightly down. You're right. Sequentially.

Those are the dynamics because we're not expecting to get that additional revenue from shipping more than what's being produced at the OEM..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, and that's auto, right. So on HBO, Q3 to Q4, we're expecting the market to contract a little bit industrial Q3 to Q4, we're expecting the market to contract a little bit. Yes, that that's seasonal, right. But that has to be factored into the Q3, Q4 transition as well aero is the other one, that's up a tiny bit from Q3 to Q4.

So when you look at the whole mix of the business, it's complicated. But when you look at the whole mix, the guide makes sense and it's just a lot of moving..

Paul Vasington

In the fills in 95%, a little bit less than last quarter. But last quarter, we're expecting more orders to drop out, given some of the shutdowns we're expecting a little less than that. So that's why the Phil being a little lower, you think is appropriate given where we're forecasting the revenue to be at the midpoint of guide.

It's largely consistent with what we saw in Q3..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Joe..

Operator

Our next question comes from David Kelley with Jefferies. Please go ahead..

David Kelley

Hey, good morning guys and thanks for taking my question. Maybe just a question on the fourth quarter margin guidance and the sequential view that stepped down from Q3, I'm assuming in part related to this sequential guided revenue step down.

But could you just give us a sense of how you're thinking about some of the sequential input cost levers into the fourth quarter if there's anything mix related we should be thinking through and modeling?.

Paul Vasington

You got it right. The difference from Q3 to Q4, the drop, we are dropping about $40 million-ish revenue in about 16 is coming out on the bottom line. So it's convert -- a lot of it is just volume conversion and leverage that we lose.

There is a little bit of a expectation of higher logistics costs as logistics rates continue to eke up just given the constraints or global logistics channels. Those would be the two main drivers sequentially..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, David..

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Snyder with UBS. Please go ahead..

Christopher Snyder

Thanks for squeezing me in. Also just kind of want to follow-up on the commentary on the EV content per vehicle, can be double IC within 5 years, because this is a really significant change from the recent plus 20% run rate.

So this kind of impact is more, as I guess it's not super clear to me, what is driving that 80% delta relative to expectations just 3 to 6 months ago.

Is that the market opportunity is stronger than previously thought? Are share gains accelerating kind of based on what you're seeing on orders? And I just want to confirm that this does not include incremental M&A..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes, it does not include incremental M&A. And so the -- again, the 20% is a demonstrated capability if you take in 2020 and 2021 total revenue from electric vehicles divided by electric vehicles produced it's a 20% uplift from the balance of the automotive business, right. So it's a demonstrated.

There's a lot that needs to happen in terms of seeing how those vehicle platforms roll out. But the business -- a lot of the business is one. We have a long cycle business, right. So the last several years, we've quoted the amount of new business wins that we've had that are really specifically focused on electric vehicles.

We're getting a better feel for what capability or what products that we have will port right over into the new electrified platforms as our customers start to put the finishing touches on their launch schedules associated with those. And so we're just providing the visibility into the next 3 or 5 years what we see and how that will transition.

It's -- no one knows that the final answer is to how many electric vehicles, but if you use 25%, 30% total electric vehicle park-in 5 years, markets going to grow, content is going to continue to grow.

And obviously in electric vehicles, we're going to continue to see incremental content on those vehicles in the light vehicle market, but even more accentuated in some of the stationary equipment and heavy vehicle market where we're providing more than just sensor content.

So it continues to be a really exciting, fast moving area that will continue to provide data points and reference points so that you can monitor our progress..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Chris..

Operator

Our next question comes from Joe Giordano with Cowen. Please go ahead..

Joseph Giordano

Hey, guys.

I think we've got the most of the things at this point, but just curious you're -- when you scale your content, things like that, like what does that contemplate in terms of megatrends then associated with that, and particularly as you do all these kind of bolt on does that megatrend number ramp with that? How do you kind of see that going over the next couple of years?.

Jeffrey Cote

I think for next year we are -- our current planning model is to staying at $50 million, $55 million range for megatrends spend. The composition of that spend may change. It may end up pivoting more towards where we think the greatest success will be in terms of scaling growth.

So more to come on that as we develop our guide for next year, but the aggregate number, right now the target is about keeping at that $55 million level..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Joe..

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Suva with Citi. Please go ahead..

Jim Suva

Thank you for all the details thus far. A question on the logistics and the supply chain issues. Are you having to or starting to consider put into your contracts, like additional riders, or I guess indexing to raw materials or shipping or things like that.

Because I'm just wondering if these things are prolonged, so it could potentially protect your profitability somewhere. I’m just kind of wondering how it's going, because I know you have very long-term relationships with your customers and a long sight of visibility into the designs. Thank you..

Jeffrey Cote

Yes. So it's a great question, Jim. Our typical contracts, it was not unusual to have a rate of exchange riders or metal commodity riders in them. But inflation riders are something that I haven't seen in a lot of commercial agreements, but we're clearly having those conversations. That's the legal side of it.

The reality is, is that our customers want us to be able to serve them. We do have very long standing decades long relationships with our customers. And we'll get to the right answer with them in terms of navigating through this challenge.

Again, it's not -- it's never an easy conversation to have this type of discussion with customers, but they understand the world we're living in. They understand that the world that everybody is living in, for the most part, we feel good. But we will drive more into the contractual element, but it's a dialogue with them around how we partner..

Jacob Sayer

Thanks, Jim..

Jeffrey Cote

Thanks, Jim..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jacob Sayer for any closing remarks..

Jacob Sayer

I'd like to thank everyone for joining us this morning and for hanging in there through all those questions. Sensata will be participating in upcoming investor conferences this quarter, including Baird's Industrial Conference and Industrial Conference in New York during the quarter.

As Jeff mentioned, we also expect to offer a webinar on our electrification components in clean energy solutions initiatives early next year. We look forward to seeing you at one of those events or on our fourth quarter earnings call in early February. Thank you all for joining us this morning and for your interest in Sensata.

Operator, you may now end the call..

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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