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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q2
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Operator

00:00 Greetings and welcome to the REX American Resources Fiscal twenty twenty one second Quarter Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over to Doug Bruggeman, Chief Financial Officer.

Please go ahead, sir..

Doug Bruggeman Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

00:45 Good morning and thank you for joining REX American Resources fiscal twenty twenty one second quarter conference Call. We'll get to our presentation and comments momentarily as well as your question and answer session. But first, I'll review the Safe Harbor disclosure.

01:01 In addition to historical facts or statements of current conditions, today's conference call contains forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of nineteen ninety five.

Such forward looking statements reflect company's current expectations and beliefs, but are not guarantees of future performance. 01:22 As such, actual results may vary materially from expectations.

The risk and uncertainties associated with the forward looking statement are described in today's news announcement and in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's reports on Form ten K and ten Q, REX American Resources assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements.

01:48 I have joining me on the call today, Stuart Rose, Executive Chairman of the Board; and Zafar Rizvi, the Chief Executive Officer. I'll first review our financial performance and then turn the call over to Stuart for his comments.

02:01 Sales for the quarter increased substantially by three ninety eight percent primarily due to higher production levels as we had (ph) NuGen and One Earth plants for a portion of last year's second quarter due to the impact of the pandemic amongst other factors.

02:19 Ethanol sales for the quarter were based upon sixty nine million gallons this year versus twenty six point five million gallons last year. We also benefited from a significant increase in average selling prices in the Ethanol and byproduct segment.

02:34 We reported gross profit of fourteen point two million dollars for the ethanol and byproduct segment versus a gross profit of five hundred and fifty three thousand dollars in the prior year. Gross margin benefited from the increased volume in selling prices, which were offset somewhat by higher corn pricing.

Gross profit also benefited from certain shipping costs being recorded in SG&A this year based upon contract terms and our placement of ongoing shipping cost in SG&A.

03:03 Our refined coal segment had a gross loss of three point one million for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty one versus one point nine million for the prior year based upon increased volume.

These losses are offset by tax benefits from this segment of five point four million and two point nine million dollars for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty one and twenty twenty respectively recorded from the section forty five credits and tax benefits from operating losses.

03:30 As a reminder, we currently expect this business to end by November 18 of twenty twenty one as this plant operation will no longer be eligible for tax credits based upon current legislation. SG&A increased for the second quarter to six point six million dollars from four point four million dollars in the prior year.

This primarily represents increased shipping costs recorded in SG&A as mentioned earlier for certain ethanol contracts in which we pay shipping based upon contract terms as well as higher incentive compensation associated with higher profitability levels.

04:06 We had income of one point eight million dollars from our unconsolidated equity investments in this year's second quarter versus a loss of five hundred and seven thousand in the prior year, reflecting improved ethanol industry conditions during this time period.

Interest and other income decreased to approximately thirty nine thousand versus one hundred and ninety seven thousand in the prior year, primarily reflecting lower interest rates. 04:31 We recorded a tax benefit of three point seven million dollars for the second quarter of this year versus a benefit of four million dollars in the prior year.

Fluctuation in rates are largely caused by level of refined coal production and credits and the prior year having a pre-tax loss versus pre-tax income in the current year.

04:50 These factors led to net income attributable to REX shareholders of seven point nine million dollars in this year's second quarter versus net loss of one point seven million in the prior year.

In addition, our weighted average shares outstanding declined from six million two hundred and sixteen thousand to six million and eleven thousand from last year's second quarter, further benefiting the earnings per share.

05:14 As we announced this morning, we completed our most recent share repurchase authorization and the Board of Directors has approved an additional five hundred thousand share repurchase authorization. We currently have approximately five nine hundred and seventy one thousand shares outstanding. 05:30 Stuart, I’ll now turn the call over to you..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

05:34 Thank you, Doug. Going forward, we're currently running in the ethanol business at a profitable rate, but significantly less in the quarter, we just reported. The industry is hampered by high corn prices, corn shortages, and a number of other issues which our CEO, Zafar Rizvi will discuss in his segment.

Also RINs remain up in the air as the Biden administration has not issued any RINs for the future. So we still don't know where that exactly stands. 06:11 In refined coal, it continues to run at a good rate and should be profitable again on an after tax basis this quarter.

This business as Doug said is scheduled to end in the middle of December, but we could hit, but we could and shouldn't and I'm sure we'll have significant tax credits to carry forward which should help our cash flow for the foreseeable future. In terms of cash, we had a consolidated cash balance of one hundred and eighty seven point six million.

06:43 We have completed the five hundred thousand share buyback, have authorization for another five hundred thousand shares.

We try to buy on dips and we prefer to return our shareholders money in buybacks versus dividends since it reduces share counts, increases earnings per share, and provides liquidity to shareholders looking to possibly sell our stock. 07:08 We're looking for other opportunities in the Ethanol business to buy plants.

We've looked at a few things this year. We've had no success in buying anything and we had nothing imminent. Terms of carbon capture that will be our biggest new project. We're working hard on it. 07:26 We have a possibility of being a large player in that industry.

We're working with the University of Illinois on a site and we've received University of Illinois has received a grant to help fund these works from the U.S. Government. Zafar will now discuss more of that in the ethanol business in his segment. Go ahead, Zafar..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

07:50 Thank you, Stuart. As I mentioned in our previous call, our operating environment in twenty twenty one is beginning to improve and production continues to increase. These improved condition helped in the first and second quarter and resulted in the profitable quarter.

But now, we are beginning to see a decline in the cash margin due to several factors, including the cash price of corn, as Stuart mentioned; availability of corns, corn export, a decline in the price of distiller grains, but an increase in the price of non-food-grade corn oil.

08:27 Both of our majority-owned plants are producing below the capacity due to number of reasons, a planned shutdown, availability of corn at a reasonable price and logistic problems due to the availability of DDG containers. We expect this trend may continue until harvest, but the logistic problem may continue longer.

08:47 Although we have seen some improvement in lately, we expect the gross margin will continue to be under pressure in the near future, which could adversely affect the third quarter. I would also like to share progress in the carbon sequestration project as Stuart just discussed.

We are working the University of Illinois to drill carbon sequestration test well. The 2D seismic survey is completed, as I mentioned previously that it will be supposed to be completed this quarter, so it's completed and results are expected by the end of September.

09:22 The well side has been cleared and ready for site preparations and we expect the site preparation to start soon. We have applied for a permit for the test well from the Illinois department of Natural Resources, and expect to receive the permit within next one to two weeks.

It will be permitted as a test monitoring well and then we expect it will be converted into a Class 6 monitoring well. 09:50 The first stage of preparing the Class 6 permit application has been begun using existing information and the U.S. EPA have been notified.

The completion of the application process will continue as we began to receive more information after the test well is completed. The RFQ or test well drilling has been sent out and several proposals have been received. 10:16 We expect to start drilling the value in the fall.

It should take approximately six weeks to drill and another several weeks of testing. It will require extensive modeling and computer stimulation to predict the behavior of the CO2 when it is injected. This stimulation model will determine how much CO2 can be injected at the location at what rate and it’s eventual in the sub subsurface area.

10:42 A FEED study of the capture of CO2 and the design of the facility is underway, the design of the capture CO2 facility is expected to be completed soon. As I have mentioned in previous call, this project is still at preliminary stage, and we cannot predict yet that we will be successful. Our target is to achieve net zero emissions.

11:05 In summary, we are pleased to announce once again a profitable quarter. We are very appreciative and thankful for the hard work of our colleagues to achieve these results. I'll get back to – floor back to Stuart Rose for additional comments. Thanks.

Stuart?.

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

11:21 Thanks, Zafar. In conclusion, we've had a six successful quarter, but we have a few obstacles in the near term horizon.

Still we're running currently at a profitable rate due to good plants, good locations, and most importantly, we feel we have the best people and we're working with the best people in the industry and that's what really makes a difference of why our plants on the long term basis have consistently outperformed the industry.

11:48 I'll now leave it open to questions..

Operator

11:51 Thank you. And our first question comes from Jordan Levy with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question..

Jordan Levy

12:26 Good morning all and nice quarter. Good morning, guys. Just first wanted to start out on, Zafar, you mentioned the logistics issues with the DDG containers that I don't know if it's one or both of the plants.

Can you just expand on that? And is that something that's specific to one area? And what is the extent of that on what we're looking like on utilization into the third and fourth quarter?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

12:54 I think the problem we had last month and up some of that in this month seems to be as I mentioned, it's beginning to improve because yesterday, we received almost fifty containers and before that, we were not receiving that many containers coming back to One Earth Energy. That was the concern because we export mostly DDG at One Earth Energy.

So they require lot of containers. So that was the reason. 13:22 So due to that reason, we have to slow down little bit because we have so many containers, the containers which supposed to be arrived here, they were not arriving and the DDG storage was getting full.

So – but it seem to be getting little bit better since yesterday and last night I checked back and this was approximately fifty containers received. 13:47 So that's helping to reduce the load little bit, but certainly, as you know, shipping problem is all around with even President Biden mentioned that.

So, those are the things which we are also facing some of those..

Jordan Levy

14:05 Okay. Got you.

And is that sort of the same situation that you mentioned running at somewhat lower utilization and ability to get corn at a reasonable price? We’ve seen, obviously, the financial market for corn come down a bit over the last week or two, are you starting to see some pressure off on there too?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

14:24 Yeah. I think we have seen the business – although the price has come down, but I think the basis are also beginning to become weaken. We have seen that not only in South Dakota area in even Illinois one-time the basis was as high as $1.25; $1.30 plus basis and now the basis are coming down.

14:49 Overall, everywhere in the industry, but yes, due to the reason there was some concern that within a next month, hopefully, there are going to be harvest and the basis are expected to be minus and now it's still plus basis, so we are trying to be very careful not to overbuy and not to overpay and then we end up with a higher inventory price..

Jordan Levy

15:18 Sure. Sure, thanks for that. That's great color.

Stuart, maybe for you, definitely encouraging to see you all continuing to buy back shares and increase that authorization, I'm just curious if you think about couple of years down the road, is there a point you get to where it doesn't make sense to continue to buy back shares or is this something you think can remain at the pace it's been at and you all have been pretty opportunistic and when you choose to repurchase? So, is it just kind of a continuation of that or I'm just curious how you think about it longer term?.

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

15:52 Right. That's a good question, Jordan. I think the way I look at it is there's always times where we think not to buy when the stock is performing well on its own. We're there to put a floor on the stock when the stock dips.

And that's so hopefully I'll never have to use the five hundred thousand shares buyback, but should the stock dip to prices that we think are unrealistic in our minds. That's when we choose to do the buyback.

And we've probably have been buying back for longer than anyone in the – I'm sure we have anyone in the industry, and we certainly think we know what we're doing when it comes to buyback. 16:33 We don’t just buy back to throw money out there, we do it opportunistically and we do it on dips, and we've historically done it that way.

One of the things that I think separates us from the rest of the industry; first of all, we consistently make money. Second of all, I think we're good stewards of that money.

We do have our speculative project, which is a big one, one of the biggest and we hope to be huge and carbon capture, but we also watch our shareholders money like our own money, and we try to use it and not just make announcements and grow money at different projects.

17:14 We'd like to make sure that we're using in a wise way and consistently we've done that, which has allowed us, I think over the years to way outperform almost everyone in the industry..

Jordan Levy

17:27 Yeah. Absolutely agreed. And then just the last one for me, maybe Stuart for you on the carbon capture project, you mentioned kind of preparing the site for the test this fall and how that will take some time to get the results and then monitor it.

I'm just curious when we think about timing, the major kind of milestones we should be looking for to track the progress on that project? Is it early next year? We might have an initial sense of what this looks like and then kind of what the steps after that might be, after the test well, assuming things go well?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

18:03 I think the test well we seem to at this stage, at least, we think that it will be – test well will this year and then as I said, six to eight weeks and after the test well is completed, then we will be doing lot of stimulation and looking at the how the subsurface is reacting to it.

18:26 The main purpose is to really also not to just to decide look at the location and decide how much carbon this can store each well, because if this well can hold about two million tons a year or it can hold only a one million ton a year, so that will be giving us little bit color on that, how much we can really bring the carbon from different several other different locations or other ethanol facilities, which we have non-binding agreement.

19:00 So that will determine actually the how much storage we have and then we can decide in the same area that we need to dig another well. That will be not also carbon sequestration well; it will not be a test well or something.

So those are the really reason we wanted to make sure the test well is – can define the area and confirm what seismic testing and other area is saying that how much ton it can hold. So, I think by next year by the June, we will have pretty good idea where exactly we stand with this location..

Jordan Levy

19:43 Great and exciting to see that moving along as well. Thanks. Thanks for all the details guys..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

19:48 Yes..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

19:49 Thank you, Jordan..

Operator

19:52 Our next question comes from Graham Price with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question..

Graham Price

20:01 Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions.

I guess, first up, I was wondering when you expect the EPA to release the twenty twenty one, probably fuel blending volumes mandates and maybe just wanted to gauge your expectations there?.

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

20:21 Personally, I have no idea they were supposed to do it long ago. I don't know what they're waiting for.

I don't get it, but that's – Zafar, do you have any more clarity on when it may come out?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

20:33 I don't really know. I think you are right, Stuart. It's already, you know White House has to approve it, and so we don't know when they will approve it. There's so many uncertainties and things are going on at the White House right now..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

20:48 There have a few issues right now, but I don't know that this is top of their agenda, but it should be top of the EPA’s agenda, but they may not be able to run it by and who knows what's going on there. But it is disappointing to be honest with you. We at least need and would like to know what we're shooting at for this year, it makes no sense..

Doug Bruggeman Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

21:12 I mean, there's reports out there, you know the EPA is ready to send their recommendations to the White House, but there's no clarity on how long that will take. But from what I've read, and I'm sure you've read the same thing.

There's some speculation that the EPA is going to propose reducing the number of RINs for twenty twenty one versus twenty twenty..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

21:44 Yes. But I think, Doug, this is Zafar, but I think that’s not sure that it is going to be a biodiesel or ethanol. So that's the really not clear because biodiesel is not producing as much as the required. So there is rumors it maybe a biodiesel, RINs need to be reduced either ethanol. So, it's not very clear what happened, at this stage..

Graham Price

22:09 Got it. Understood. That's definitely helpful. And then I guess sticking with the EPA, as we look at, at least the near term potential for fuel shortages in the wake of Hurricane Ida, no, we've seen – there have been some requests from the EPA to allow more ethanol to be sold in Louisiana and some of the other states impacted by the storm.

Just wanted to see what your views are on that situation..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

22:42 We're always going to pay for more ethanol, but I think that must be a lot less striving and when we can it too, so who knows what, I don't think that's going to hit – on an overall basis, I would not look at that as being any permanent major change..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

22:57 Yeah, it’s a short-term change. I think it's not a long-term. So, I think short-term the demand may increase and then depends on really how long they continue that. So, but as we all know, ethanol is clean fuel and we encourage people to use that as much as they can..

Graham Price

23:21 Got it. Understood. Thank you for taking my questions..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

23:26 You’re welcome..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

23:27 Thank you..

Operator

23:29 And our next question is from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please proceed with your question..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

23:43 Hi, Chris..

Chris Sakai

23:46 Hi everyone. Good morning..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

23:48 Good morning..

Chris Sakai

23:50 Just – I think Stuart mentioned that you're looking at some acquisitions but didn't make any this quarter.

Wanted to see why? What were the main reasons there?.

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

24:06 I said this year and the main reason was we were , so simple as that. As I said earlier, try to be very, very good stewards of our stockholders money and we did not get what we were looking for. And so we move on.

In truth, we're better off buying our own shares in the price that we've seen of acquisitions out there we can buy our own shares cheaper. 24:40 So that's how we choose to go.

We will not spend more than we think we need to spend for an acquisition, and there have been a couple, but we did not get them, and it's – sobeit, I think in the long run, our strategy has worked and that's how we'll continue to do it..

Chris Sakai

25:04 Okay. All right, thanks.

And then I guess internationally where are the best countries that are demanding ethanol?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

25:19 Where is the best countries? I think as you can see that basically this year we have seen Canada and other countries, it's a more ethanol versus shipped, but compared to Canada and South Korea, and Peru and Mexico, I think China has received some of them this year, but the problem is that is Brazil was completely off this year compared to last year.

25:48 And ethanol export this year was six sixty four million compared to last year was thirty one million, and Brazil actually imported only thirty point six million compared to last year's one hundred and seventy seven million and in twenty nineteen almost two eleven million.

So, Brazil was not there at this year compared to last several previous years..

Chris Sakai

26:20 Did you mention China there? How it going with China?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

26:23 China did import this see some of them close to – let's see China imported close to one hundred million gallons this year. Let me confirm that. I think I had somewhere. Let me look at it. I'll get back to you about it..

Chris Sakai

26:44 Okay. Okay. Thanks.

And then as far as the rest of the year goes, I mean, do you have any idea as far as cross spreads go?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

26:57 As I mentioned, I think in this business, you really – it's a commodity business; it depends on week to week some time, and month to month. As I mentioned that in earlier previously in my prepared remarks that certainly the cross spread is under pressure at this time.

So, getting back to your China, yes, China imported almost one hundred million gallons this year, so that's what’s correct information..

Chris Sakai

27:26 Okay. All right. Great. Thanks..

Doug Bruggeman Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

27:29 Thank you..

Operator

27:32 Our next question is from Jarrod Edelen with South Dakota Investment Office. Please proceed with your question..

Jarrod Edelen

27:41 Hi thanks guys and thanks for taking the question..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

27:44 Hi. Yeah, thanks..

Jarrod Edelen

27:45 I wanted to get a little more color around the dynamic of the drought that's going on this year.

And in your corn consuming areas, if you had a sense of, if there's going to be any future acute shortages as occurred in the past for you guys, especially in the NuGen and One Earth facilities?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

28:12 I think let’s look at the one at a time.

I think One Earth Energy facility, if you look at this, this year, the corn yield for twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two is expected to be one hundred and seventy four point six million bushel and also approximately two million acres were planted more this year compared to last year, but we expect – record yield is expected in Illinois.

Illinois in One Earth Energy area is lot of rain and consistently lot of rain, and is expected to be really good crops. 28:54 Since Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio is the top – expected to be top yield, but yield in the Minnesota as you were asking and the North Dakota and South Dakota are expected to be lower than last year due to drought in the area.

But the one thing which is we see a bit positive, particularly for South Dakota, this year in South Dakota, approximately one million more acre were planted compared to last year. 29:25 So, even if this yield goes down a little bit, we still think that overall perhaps will be almost better than last year if the yields stay as it is now expected.

And we have rain approximately three to four, five inch last couple of weeks in that area. The overall NuGen area is not as bad as we have seen. North or South Dakota, or West, Northwest of South Dakota and the North Dakota. So those areas is certainly is pretty bad, but NuGen area is not as bad as compared to other areas.

So – but overall, it is not as good as last year, but the only thing it can be in a helpful, we have more acre planted this year than last year..

Jarrod Edelen

30:25 Wonderful. Thank you.

And could you touch a little more on some of the byproducts mainly tried DDG and modified DDG as well as corn oil and how impactful the price increases have been to your profitability?.

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

30:42 I think that we have seen as I mentioned earlier that we have seen the corn oil prices really seemed to be going much higher than expected.

If you look at even our – we will be issuing soon complete details or even in the press release you can see that the corn oil prices this year above average in July was zero point forty seven dollars compared to last period it was zero point two five dollars, and zero six months it was zero point four one dollars.

31:13 So what we have seen recently even as higher as $0.60 to $0.65, even $0.60 a pound. DDG price has come down and it was trading previously close to hundred percent to hundred and ten percent of the corn value, but now we have seen somewhere eighty five percent to ninety percent of the corn value..

Jarrod Edelen

31:38 Great. Thank you. That's all..

Operator

31:44 Mr. Rose, I'll turn the call back to you. There are no further questions at this time..

Stuart Rose Executive Chairman & Head of Corporate Development

31:49 Great. Thank you so much. Like to thank everyone for listening and we'll look forward to talking to you our next conference call. Thank you very much. Bye..

Zafar Rizvi Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

31:57 Thank you. Bye, bye..

Operator

31:59 That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines..

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