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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q4
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Operator

00:04 Good morning, and welcome to the Ryder System's Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Release Conference Call. All lines are in a listen-only mode until after the presentation. Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. 00:21 I would now like to introduce Mr.

Bob Brunn, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations, Corporate Strategy and New Product Strategy for Ryder. Mr. Brunn, you may begin..

Bob Brunn

00:34 Thanks very much. Good morning, and welcome to Ryder's fourth quarter 2021 earnings conference call. 00:40 I'd like to remind you that during this presentation you'll hear some forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may differ materially from these expectations due to changes in economic, business, competitive, market, political and regulatory factors.

More detailed information about these factors and a reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to the nearest GAAP measure is contained in this morning's earnings release, earnings call presentation, and in Ryder's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are available on Ryder's website.

01:22 Presenting on today's call are Robert Sanchez, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and John Diez, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Additionally, Tom Havens, President of Global Fleet Management Solutions; and Steve Sensing, President of Global Supply Chain Solutions and Dedicated Transportations are on the call today and available for questions following the presentation. 01:43 With that, I'll turn it over to Robert..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

01:46 Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. I'm very proud of the results that we generated in 2021 and I'm excited to share the significant progress we've made, as well as the opportunities ahead of us. We'll -- I'll begin the call by providing you with a strategic update.

John will then take you through our strong fourth quarter results which exceeded our expectations again this quarter. We'll then shift our focus to our outlook, including the increases that we've made to our long-term ROE and FMS returns targets. We'll also review our 2022 forecast. 02:20 Let's begin on Slide four.

We recently completed two acquisitions consistent with our capital allocation strategy to drive growth in supply chain. On January 1, 2022, we completed the acquisition of Whiplash, which is expected to add approximately $480 million to 2022 supply chain total revenue.

This acquisition expands our e-fulfillment network with scalable e-commerce and omnichannel fulfillment solutions, supported by proven operating and technology platforms.

02:56 On November 1, 2021, we completed the acquisition of Midwest Warehouse & Distribution System, which is expected to add approximately $135 million in supply chain total annual revenue, and will expand our offering in multi-client warehousing. Both acquisitions are expected to be accretive to 2022 earnings.

03:17 Unprecedented challenges impacting labor, supply chain, and truck production are providing us with additional growth opportunities, because they help drive companies to make long-term outsourcing decisions. In 2021, we had record new contract wins in supply chain and dedicated, which we expect will contribute to long term profitable growth.

03:38 FMS is also benefiting as companies are looking to source truck capacity in this extremely tight market. We generated record ROE of 21% in 2021 reflecting strong demand in pricing, in used vehicle sales and rental, as well as benefits from our multiyear lease pricing and maintenance cost savings initiatives.

We continue to implement price increases in supply chain and dedicated to address labor and supply chain challenges, and customers have generally been amenable to these adjustments. 04:12 2021 free cash flow was strong at $1.1 billion.

Higher capital expenditures were partially offset by $400 million in capital spending that was deferred due to OEM delivery delays. Free cash flow also reflects higher used vehicle sales proceeds. Strong operating results and cash flow generation further strengthened our balance sheet resulting in leverage being below target.

04:39 Based on our outlook and consistent with our capital allocation strategy, we intend to enter into a new $300 million accelerated share repurchase program. After completing this program, we still expect to have capacity for acquisitions and the existing share repurchase programs.

04:56 I'll turn the call over to John now to cover our fourth quarter results..

John Diez

05:01 Thanks, Robert. Total company results for the fourth quarter are on Page five. Operating revenue of $2.1 billion in the fourth quarter increased 14% from the prior year, reflecting revenue growth in all three business segments.

Comparable earnings per share from continuing operations was $3.52 in the fourth quarter as compared to $0.83 in the prior year. Higher earnings reflected improved performance in FMS from higher used vehicle sales, rental, and lease results, as well as a declining depreciation expense impact related to prior residual value estimate changes.

05:43 Return on equity, our primary financial metric, reached a record 20.9% for 2021, reflecting improved FMS results. 2021 free cash flow was strong at $1.1 billion, although down from the prior year when capital expenditures were unusually low due to COVID. 06:07 Turning to FMS results on Page six.

Fleet Management Solutions' operating revenue increased 9%, reflecting 35% higher rental revenue, driven by strong demand and higher pricing. Rental pricing increased 10% primarily due to higher rates across all vehicle classes. FMS realized pre-tax earnings of $255 million, up by $195 million from the prior year.

$123 million of this improvement is from higher gains on used vehicles sold and a lower depreciation expense impact related to prior residual value estimate changes. Improved rental and lease results also significantly contributed to increased FMS earnings.

Rental utilization on the power fleet was a record 85% in the quarter and above prior year of 79%. 07:03 Results also benefited from ongoing momentum from lease pricing initiatives, partially offset by 2% smaller average active lease fleet.

We expect to see incremental benefits going forward from this initiative as lease continues to be repriced -- leases continue to be repriced upon renewal. FMS EBT as a percentage of operating revenue was 19.6% in the fourth quarter and 13.4% for the full year, surpassing the segment's long-term target of high single digits.

07:39 Page seven highlights global used vehicle sales results for the quarter. Used vehicle market conditions remain robust due to strong freight activity and truck production constraints creating tight supply. Higher sales proceeds reflect significantly improved market pricing.

Globally, year-over-year proceeds approximately doubled for both tractors and trucks. Sequentially, tractor proceeds were up 19% and truck proceeds were up 14% versus the third quarter 2021. 08:14 During the quarter we sold 5,400 used vehicles down 23% versus the prior year due to lower inventory levels.

Sales were up 10% sequentially and included a large retail transaction. Used vehicle inventory ended at -- with 2,500 vehicles, below our target range of 7,000 to 9,000 vehicles. Average used vehicle pricing is well above residual value estimates used for depreciation purposes. As such, we're comfortable with our residual value estimates.

08:51 Turning to supply chain on Page eight. Operating revenue versus the prior year increased 21% due to new business, higher volumes in the Midwest acquisition. Growth was partially offset by the impact of supply chain disruptions on automotive production activity. SCS EBT as a percent of operating revenue of 3.5% was below target.

This reflects lower automotive earnings, higher strategic investments and medical costs, partially offset by positive earnings from new business. We anticipate SCS EBT percent to improve in 2022 due to growth, automotive pricing and volume recovery. 09:36 Moving to Dedicated on Page nine.

Operating revenue increased 26% due to new business, higher volumes, and increased pricing. DTS EBT as a percent of operating revenue was below target at 4%. This reflects increased labor and insurance costs, partially offset by positive earnings from new business.

We're confident that new sales activity and pricing adjustments will improve DTS EBT percent in 2022. 10:08 Now, I'll turn the call back over to Robert to discuss our outlook..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

10:13 Slide 10 highlights key aspects of our 2022 outlook. In terms of market assumptions, we expect robust outsourcing trends to continue, supported by increased awareness and focus on supply chain resiliency. We expect the trucking environment to remain tight in 2022 with some moderation in the second half.

Labor and supply chain disruptions are expected to continue through at least the first half of the year. We're expecting to recover costs from market labor shortages and wage increases through contract pricing adjustments in Dedicated and our supply chain automotive business.

10:48 In terms of our financial forecast for 2022, operating revenue is expected to grow approximately 10%. Comparable EPS is forecast to be between $11 and $12, up 15% to 25% over the prior year. ROE is expected to remain near record levels, somewhere between 20% and 22%.

Free cash flow is expected to be between $200 million and $300 million as we are forecasting lease growth of around 4,000 vehicles by year-end, which is on the high end of our typical expected lease growth range. 11:25 Slide 11 highlights the key assumptions in our forecast.

FMS operating revenue growth is expected to be in the low single-digits as OEM delivery delays will constrain lease revenue growth.

FMS EBT as a percent of operating revenue is expected to be above the segment's low double-digit target range, reflecting strong used vehicle sales and rental results, and the benefits from multi-year lease pricing and maintenance initiatives.

We expect the used vehicle sales and rental environment to remain strong in 2022, slowly moderating in the second half. FMS EBT percent, excluding gains is expected to be low double-digits in 2022 demonstrating the earnings power of the base business.

12:12 Operating revenue growth in supply chain is expected to be above 30%, driven by acquisitions and record new contract wins in 2021. EBT percent is expected to improve throughout 2022 reflecting a recovery in automotive and reach high single-digits in the second half.

Operating revenue growth in Dedicated is expected to be low double-digits above the segment's high single-digit target range and driven by record new contract wins in 2021. 12:45 EBT as a percent of operating revenue is expected to improve throughout 2022 reflecting price increases and reach high single-digits in the second half.

In addition, we expect to continue to make strategic investments in innovative technology and new product development, primarily to accelerate profitable growth in our Supply Chain and Dedicated business. Our forecast also assumes execution of the $300 million accelerated share repurchase program in the first half of the year.

13:17 Slide 12 provides a chart outlining the changes from 2021 to reach the high end of our 2022 comparable EPS forecast. The largest contributor to EPS growth is Supply Chain and Dedicated results, which are expected to generate $1.35 in incremental EPS.

These results reflect acquisitions and growth, as well as recovery of costs related to the labor shortages in Dedicated and auto recovery in Supply Chain. 13:47 The net impact from depreciation change in used vehicle sales results is expected to contribute $0.65 in EPS growth.

A declining depreciation expense impact from prior residual value estimate changes is expected to more than offset a modest decline in gains on used vehicles sold. Although benefits from the declining depreciation expense impact are expected to continue beyond 2022, these benefits are not expected to be as meaningful going forward.

14:17 FMS Contractual which reflects ChoiceLease and SelectCare is expected to contribute $0.40 of EPS, primarily reflecting higher lease pricing. Rental is expected to provide $0.40 of EPS growth due to higher demand and pricing on a larger average fleet. These benefits are expected to be partially offset by lower utilization.

Both FMS Contractual and Rental results also reflect benefits from the multi-year maintenance cost savings initiative. The net benefit from a reduced share count related to the new accelerated share repurchase program, partially offset by a higher tax rate is expected to add $0.25 to EPS.

14:59 The earnings decline related to the intended exit of our UK business, which we will cover in a few minutes and higher overheads are expected to reduce EPS by $0.30. This decline does not include any expected gain from the sale of UK assets and the exit-related costs in the UK, which would be excluded from comparable EPS results.

15:25 Increased strategic investments in innovative technology and new product development are expected to reduce EPS by $0.33. This brings the high end of our comparable EPS forecast to $12 with a range of $11 to $12 for the year. 15:41 I'll turn the call back over to John to discuss capital expenditures, cash flow, and ROE..

John Diez

15:48 Thanks, Robert. Turning to Slide 13. 2021 lease capital spending of $1.2 billion was up year-over-year due to increased lease sales activity partially offset by $400 million impact from OEM delivery delays. Our 2022 forecast of $2.1 billion reflects higher lease replacement and growth capital.

In North America, we expect the average ChoiceLease fleet size to be unchanged year-over-year. The year-end fleet is expected to be up approximately 4,000 vehicles as vehicles are delivered later in the year, which will provide incremental earnings growth for 2023.

16:31 2021 rental capital spending of $651 million increased significantly year-over-year reflecting a higher planned rental investment in a tight market environment and after a period of significant downsizing during COVID. In 2022, rental spending is expected to decline to $500 million with our average fleet expected to grow by 9%.

In addition, we are increasing our capital spending on trucks versus tractors as trucks continue to benefit from strong demand and pricing trends, supported by e-commerce growth and also tend to be less volatile during a downturn. Our full year '22 forecast for gross capital expenditures is $2.7 billion to $2.8 billion. 17:22 Turning to Slide 14.

2021 free cash flow was $1.1 billion and includes a cash flow benefit of $400 million from OEM delays and record proceeds from used vehicles sold. 2022 free cash flows forecast at $200 million to $300 million, down from 2021 reflecting higher lease capital expenditures. Balance sheet leverage is expected to remain below our target range in 2022.

2022 ROE is expected to be between 20% and 22%, reflecting the benefits from continued strength in FMS and a recovery of SCS and DTS returns in the second half of 2022.

18:10 I'll turn the call back over to Robert to provide our EPS forecast for the first quarter and full year '22, and also discuss our long term targets and the actions we're taking to achieve them over this cycle..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

18:24 Thanks, John. Turning to Page 15, we're forecasting comparable EPS of $11 to $12 versus $9.58 in 2021. We're also providing a first quarter comparable EPS forecast of $2.20 to $2.35 versus the prior year of $1.09.

Our January results provide us with confidence in our outlook and demonstrate the continuing momentum in FMS market conditions and benefits from initiatives to increase returns. 18:56 Turning to Slide 16.

In late 2019, we shared several multi-year initiatives intended to better position the business to achieve our long-term targets over the cycle and create value for shareholders.

These initiatives are focused on elevating the return profile of the business through accelerated growth in our higher return Supply Chain and Dedicated businesses, and moderate growth and improved returns in our FMS business, while generating higher free cash flow.

These actions have already contributed meaningfully to higher returns and we expect incremental benefits going forward. 19:32 In Supply Chain, we're very excited about the expanded capacity and growth resulting from both organic and M&A activity.

From an M&A perspective, we recently closed our largest supply chain deal with Whiplash, which takes us further into the high growth e-commerce area. Organically, 2021 was a record sales year for Supply Chain and Dedicated.

In addition, we continue to invest in innovative technology solutions such as RyderShare, our real-time freight visibility and collaboration tool, which has been a key differentiator in winning many of these new contracts. 20:12 We were excited to announce earlier this week that RyderShare visibility has now been extended into the warehouse.

Ryder is now the only 3PL offering a technology platform with real-time visibility, collaboration and exception management across the end-to-end supply chain. 20:29 In FMS, the team has done an excellent job of leveraging favorable pricing trends in used vehicle sales and rental resulting in outperformance in both these areas.

In addition, our lease pricing initiatives have resulted in improved portfolio returns and revenue on new leased vehicles increasing year-over-year by mid-single digits in 2021.

With approximately 40% of the lease portfolio now repriced with both higher return spreads and lower residual assumptions, we expect additional benefits going forward as the remaining 60% of the leases are renewed and re-priced with these terms.

21:09 Our multi-year maintenance cost savings initiatives -- initiative delivered a greater than expected $40 million in incremental annual benefit during 2021. With program-to-date savings reaching $90 million, we now expect to exceed our initial $100 million savings target.

As part of our strategy to improve FMS returns, we intend to exit the lower return FMS business in the UK over the next 12 to 18 months subject to consultation, obligations under UK law.

Our 2022 free cash flow forecast does not reflect the potential exit of our UK business, which, if we complete, we expect would benefit cash flow over an estimated 18 month period. 21:57 We have also taken actions to mitigate the impact of cyclical downturns on earnings.

Vehicle residual value estimates for the entire fleet are near historically low levels. In addition, last year we incorporated the impact of a potential downturn into our residual value assumptions resulting in a modest reduction, and residual value estimates for certain tractors.

Used vehicle pricing will continue to fluctuate based on market conditions, which will impact the gains that we realize. However, by maintaining residuals at these low levels, our goal is to realize used vehicle gains the vast majority of the time with a reduced probability of losses or need for additional depreciation.

We're also continuing to shift our revenue mix towards Supply Chain and Dedicated by accelerating growth in these higher return businesses that are less susceptible than FMS's cyclical downturns. 22:55 Finally, we're maintaining balance sheet flexibility through moderate lease growth.

This enables us to invest in higher return opportunities that include organic growth, targeted acquisitions and investments as well as returning capital to shareholders. Based on the results from actions to increase returns, our planned initiatives and our outlook, we are raising our long-term ROE target over the cycle.

23:23 Slide 16 highlights our primary long-term financial target, ROE and key components to driving returns higher. We're increasing our long term average ROE target over the cycle from 15% to a range of upper-teens primarily to reflect higher expected returns in FMS.

This means that in a favorable rental and used vehicle market like we are in today, we should be in the low-20s and in a down rental and UVS market, we should be in the mid-20s -- in the mid-teens.

23:57 We also increased our target for FMS EBT as a percent of operating revenue from high single-digits to low double-digits, reflecting the benefits from our lease pricing and maintenance cost initiatives, as well as getting past the depreciation impact related to prior residual value estimate changes.

Long-term operating revenue growth targets are unchanged and EBT percent targets for Supply Chain and Dedicated remain at high single-digits. Our leverage target also remains at 250% to 300%. 24:31 That concludes our prepared remarks this morning.

Before we go to questions, I'd like to announce that we're planning an Investor Day for June the 3rd to be held in New York City subject to health conditions, so please mark your calendars. More details will be forthcoming regarding the event and required free registration. Also, please note that we expect to file the 10-K tomorrow.

We had a lot of material to cover today, so please limit yourself to one question each. If you have additional questions, you're welcome to get back in the queue and we'll take as many as we can. 25:03 At this time, I'll turn it back over to the operator..

Operator

25:07 Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We'll now take our first question from Stephanie Moore with Truist..

Stephanie Moore

25:40 Hi. Good afternoon, and congrats on a great quarter..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

25:44 Hi. Thanks, Stephanie..

Stephanie Moore

25:47 I wanted to touch on the FMS segment, really fantastic work repricing and working on the returns of the lease -- the leases within that segment. If you could talk a little bit about the customer acceptance of these price increases.

And really if the customer profile, whether its size or industry has changed over the last several years as you kind of focus more so on returns and pricing? And kind of how we should think about repricing -- the success of repricing that incremental 60% in the years ahead? Thank you..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

26:23 Yeah, I'll just make a couple of comments and hand it over to Tom. Look, I think we've been -- we've certainly been encouraged by what we've seen with the acceptance of pricing. As you think about what drove our increase, it was really the lower residual expectation going forward, which is not a unique Ryder challenge.

I think anybody who owns their own trucks are going to have the same issue and then the ongoing volatility that we would expect, which increases the risk. 26:47 So what we're finding is that, market is recognizing that and certainly amenable to putting that in the rate. So we feel confident in our ability I guess to continue to see that.

But Tom, you can give a little more color also around the segments also that we are targeting now..

Tom Havens

27:07 Yeah.

I'd probably just make one more comment too as we -- if you go back a few years, the market also realized the struggles of maintenance cost on some of the new engine technologies, so -- and they understood some of those cost increases that were incurred in the business, which made it a little bit more, as Robert mentioned, kind of understood what was going on with the pricing of the leasing.

27:34 In terms of the customer base, look, we sell to a broad range -- a broad range of customers.

And we've been working on this for about three years now and there has been a slight change in the mix of business from some of the transports would be the industry that has declined slightly in our lease portfolio and then some of the other industries have picked that up.

I think just one other point on the lease, like we mentioned in the call notes there is -- about 40% of the book has already been sold at the new pricing and we're selling now almost a year out based on the OEM supply disruptions and delays in delivery. So we've already priced another almost a year's worth of leases at the new pricing at this point.

So we feel really good about when these – when the deliveries show up over the next 12 months that we will be in a really good place with the lease book going forward..

Stephanie Moore

28:49 Great. And just a quick follow-up on that comment. So would you say there has been an effort to target maybe some higher growth potential customers, whether that's in consumer or other avenues that could have maybe a steadier growth profile or higher growth profile in the past? Just wanted to follow up on that..

Tom Havens

29:09 Yeah, I mean I think the one I'd point out would be e-commerce would be the area. I know we've mentioned it certainly with the supply chain, our teams and what they're doing, but we're also focusing in that segment as well in FMS..

Stephanie Moore

29:27 Great. Thank you so much..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

29:30 Thank you, Stephanie..

Operator

29:33 [Operator Instructions] We'll now take our next question from Jordan Alliger with Goldman Sachs..

Jordan Alliger

29:46 Yeah. Hi, good morning.

Obviously Dedicated and Supply Chain are a big part of the earnings step up in 2022, so I'm wondering if you could provide a little bit more color around the drivers that are going to take that EBT margin -- the biggest factors that you expect to take those EBT margins back up to sort of the targeted range over the back half of the year? Thanks so much..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

30:13 Yeah, Jordan. Listen, two big areas. One is growth, so all the new business. We had a record new contract wins this year. So as those come in, we're certainly expecting a lift in earnings from that.

And then the second piece is really around recovery of -- in our pricing of the wage increases and that we -- that has been in the market, along with the recovery of supply chain disruption in automotive. 30:41 But let me -- I'll hand it over to Steve, so he can give you a little bit more color..

Steven Sensing President of Global Supply Chain Solutions & Dedicated Transportation Solutions

30:45 Yeah. Thanks, Robert. Jordan, the -- I'll break it into the two buckets -- two divisions. In Dedicated, we are seeing record new sales, pipeline remains strong. I'll tell you the new business that's coming in is at our target returns. The team has really gone through our book of business and had discussions with many different customers.

So if you think about half of our business, there was minimal impact to the increase and the driver wages last year and turnover. So the team is really focused on the remaining 50%. I'll say 25% of that balance has been discussed with our customers inked in the new rate structure and we're in the process of filling those seats.

The remaining balance is -- half of that is in discussion and the other half has been agreed to. And it's a matter of getting it inked up and drivers in the seats. So we're off to a good position and expect to see those returns come back in Q2.

31:49 On the SCS side, about half of our business is cost-plus, so those are kind of easy discussions or easier discussions. The remaining balance, we're down to just a few customers within the automotive and tech verticals, and we expect to have those closed up in Q2. So I think we're in a good spot there.

And as Robert said, it's really about the automotive semiconductor shortage and how that rebounds in the second half..

Jordan Alliger

32:19 Great. Thank you so much..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

32:22 Thanks, Jordan..

Operator

32:24 We'll now take our next question from Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo..

Allison Poliniak

32:30 Hi. Good morning. Just want to follow up on Jordan's question a little bit more with SCS.

Should we be thinking -- I know you just mentioned sort of more of a second half there, but is there going to be more of a linear cadence as some of those get repriced? Then any mix benefit that you're getting from some of the newer contracts that you're bringing in there? Thanks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

32:52 Yeah. Well, I would tell you in terms of a linear cadence, I'd say on the Dedicated side, you're going to see some of that more linear in the first half.

On the Supply Chain side, there is a significant couple of contracts that we're looking to renew or really reprice here beginning in the second quarter and we should begin to see the benefits then, and then really kick-in in the fourth quarter.

33:17 So, Steve, I don't know if you wanted to add something else to that?.

Steven Sensing President of Global Supply Chain Solutions & Dedicated Transportation Solutions

33:20 Yeah. Just the only thing I'd add to is the acquisitions that we brought on that Robert talked about earlier, automotive is -- will be a smaller still significant, about 30% of our business, but certainly, the CPG and retail world is now about half of our portfolio. So we like that diversity as well..

Allison Poliniak

33:40 Great. Thank you..

Operator

33:44 Our next question will come from Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets..

Todd Fowler

33:49 Hey. Great. Thanks and good morning. Robert on the updated --.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

33:52 Good morning, Todd..

Todd Fowler

33:54 Hey, good morning. On the updated financial targets, it really looks like the move on to get to the higher ROI is driven by taking up your expectations for FMS operating margins.

Can you give us an idea of how you're thinking about what kind of a normalized level of gains would be within FMS? I don't know if you want to talk about it from like an absolute dollar basis or as a percent of revenue, but just trying to get a sense within the guidance targets how gains play into that? 34:23 And then just as a follow-up to that, if you could share, it sounds like you're expecting gains to come down in '22.

If you can give us an idea of what you embedding for units sold in pricing? I think that would be helpful. Thanks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

34:36 Yeah, I would tell you on the -- in terms of more normalized gains, obviously we came off of this year where we're at about $270 million of gains. We're expecting '22 to be modestly down from that. Primarily as a result of the residual value that have come up, we expect pricing to be slightly up.

But in terms of what's more normalized gains, I think is what everybody is trying to figure out, the $270 million. If you think about normalized gains that -- we think normalized gains could be somewhere around $75 million to $100 million.

So that -- we think based on where we have residuals today, we think that's -- that can be a more normalized view. 35:20 So when you take that and you also assume rental -- rental could come down too, we think, in a more normalized environment. Earnings could be down to $2.50 to $3 a share.

That's probably a good range if you said I'm going to do away with all the extraordinary gains that I'm seeing in and all the extraordinary rental that we're seeing.

So that still puts you, I would tell you, in a really much higher return environment than we'd see historically and that's really a reflection of all the important work that's been done around lease pricing, around maintenance costs.

What we envision also the continued move towards Supply Chain and Dedicated where you will have higher returns as we get our pricing back. 36:09 So all those things put together really are what's giving us confidence in the base business that the base business itself is going to improve.

And over the cycle, we'll be at a higher return than what we've seen in the past..

Todd Fowler

36:22 Robert, that was great and that was -- I really appreciate the granularity there and we've kind of come up with some similar numbers. Just one follow-up to that, would we have to adjust anything for -- you still have some elevated depreciation right now.

Would that be one thing that would net against the numbers that you just gave for gains and rental?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

36:43 Yeah. No. Going forward -- look, this year we're still going to have some -- a little bit of depreciation, I would call headwind, but as you go into next year, it really starts to become much less of an issue. Very -- a much smaller number. So I don't think we'd be talking about that anymore.

I think going forward, that is one of the things that gave us confidence too is we've had a few years here of really outsized depreciation and we're really getting now to the point where, as we go into next year, certainly we're not going to see that same level of outsized depreciation, more normalized, therefore, giving us opportunity for better earnings..

Todd Fowler

37:18 Okay, got it. Very helpful. Thank you..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

37:21 Thank you, Todd..

Operator

37:24 We'll now take our next question from Jeff Kauffman with Vertical Research Partners..

Jeff Kauffman

37:30 Hey, everyone. Thank you. Nice to see a normalized EBITDA multiple on those normalized earnings as well.

So thinking about growth, you talked about 30% growth of operating revenue in the Dedicated business because of new contract signings, how much do you need to increase the fleet on average to support that?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

37:58 Jeff, 30% was on the Supply Chain..

Jeff Kauffman

38:02 Supply Chain, okay. Thank you..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

38:03 You are right. And that's because the good chunk is the acquisition. We also had new contract signings. And probably without the acquisitions, we're probably looking at about 10% growth in Supply Chain..

Jeff Kauffman

38:17 Okay. Got you.

And then low double-digit revenue growth is what you were looking for in DTS, so net-net between that and the rental and the lease, you're bringing in, is it 6,000 or closer to 7,000 or 7,500 vehicles in 2022?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

38:35 We’ll bring in 4,000 -- we're expecting 4,000 in lease. Now, those are going to come in in the back end of the year --.

Jeff Kauffman

38:41 Second half of the year, yeah..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

38:42 Really the benefit or the earnings, that will be in 2023. In rental, I'm not sure we gave the number in rental..

Jeff Kauffman

38:50 You said 9% average growth, yeah.

So figure on 40,000 vehicles-ish, that's 3,000 to 4,000 vehicles, right?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

39:05 No, no, no because that includes pricing increases too..

Jeff Kauffman

39:09 Okay, I got you. And then just one -- Go ahead..

John Diez

39:16 No, I think you got it right. The 9% was kind of all in. It wasn't reflective of revenue fleet, but we gave -- but we gave you the -- for CapEx, you've got an idea there. Our CapEx for 2022 for rental being in that $500 million range..

Jeff Kauffman

39:36 Okay, so I can play with those numbers. And then one last follow-up if I can.

A lot of businesses that have reported fourth quarter and given a 1Q outlook are talking about the impact of Omicron, and how it caused greater absenteeism and it affected customer use, and a lot of that and I think it was probably greater than a lot of us anticipated in January and the early part of February.

Can you talk about how Omicron did or did not affect your operations? And how that may or may not have affected your 1Q outlook?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

40:12 Yeah, I would tell you Jeff that we do see some of the same impacts that you're talking about in terms of absenteeism we saw go up, which impacted our -- really all of our businesses to a certain extent.

But I think what's different at Ryder is that, we also are getting the offset of really still continued extremely strong demand on the FMS side for rental and UVS, and we're really helping that. 40:42 But we are -- the Omicron thing I think was more of a -- it's kind of getting behind us now. I think we are seeing those absentee rates come down.

And really the challenge that we have really has been around driver and warehouse worker recruiting. We are continuing to work through that. That's a lot of the pricing changes we're making with our customers. But also that's still -- that issue is ongoing and we continue to -- our teams continue to work through that.

We’ve added a lot of new resources to recruiting, we -- I think we tripled the recruiting staff that we have in order to be able to bring in all of the drivers and warehouse workers that we need. We like the progress we're making, but there's still a lot of work to be done there..

Jeff Kauffman

41:26 Well, congratulations on a rock star year and we'll see you in June. Thanks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

41:30 Thank you, Jeff..

Operator

41:34 We'll now take a question from Bert Subin with Stifel..

Bert Subin

41:40 Hey. Good morning and congratulations on the quarter..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

41:44 Thanks, Bert..

Bert Subin

41:46 You guys highlighted your maintenance initiatives being ahead of schedule, which was I guess maybe surprising just given what we're seeing on the inflation side of things.

Can you talk about why that is and then perhaps what your expectations are for inflation just across the different segments of your business?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

42:04 Sure. I'll tell you -- I'll let Tom give you some more details on that, but really our maintenance initiatives are really more around process improvement now and really changing the process in our shops. So we're really just seeing that providing more benefit than we expected originally, and we're also moving quicker.

42:26 So, Tom, you can give him a little more color on that..

Tom Havens

42:30 Yeah. Maybe just trying to directly address the question of CPI, I think that was more of your question, but just remember that we have CPI increases with our customers each year as well that offset any maintenance cost increase. So we're seeing those two net out.

So you're really just talking about your underlying maintenance cost benefits exclusive of CPI because CPI is kind of handled if you will. 43:00 So we're continuing to see improvements in our productivity gains as we continue to rollout.

So there's process improvements, as Robert mentioned, that we're going to continue to work on through next year plus we have a couple of other engine and exhaust system and parts opportunities that the teams are going after next year as well to deliver even more benefit..

Bert Subin

43:26 So that makes sense on the maintenance side, but maybe just in the context of the different parts of your business, obviously, inflation, seems like it impacting labor and Dedicated and Supply Chain.

Do you see any impact from inflation just in the FMS leasing side of things or are you saying that you're able to pass on some of those costs of your contract..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

43:47 Yeah, I think it's what Tom just addressed is, we have in our contracts, in our lease contracts there is a CPI clause that is tied to CPI, and then there is a rate increase associated with whatever happens to CPI. So we aren't covered there.

In addition to that even some of the units that we're signing today that maybe don't come in for another seven or eight or 10 months any additional surcharges or increases also get pass through and included in the rate going forward. So we're pretty well covered. I would say on the inflation side in FMS..

Bert Subin

44:27 Thanks, Robert..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

44:30 Thank you, Bert..

Operator

44:32 We'll take our next question from Brian Ossenbeck with JP Morgan..

Brian Ossenbeck

44:39 Hey. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just wanted to go back to SCS and DTS just to make sure I understood the mismatch or the delay in terms of passing through some of the costs. I understand I think what Steve was saying about some of the contracts just weren't structured.

If such, was that really the primary issue where you're seeing push back? Did you try to maybe accelerate some of these cost pass-throughs? I just want to make sure I understood what the real reason was so we can kind of calibrate for that as we look into the next year..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

45:16 Steve, you want to take that?.

Steven Sensing President of Global Supply Chain Solutions & Dedicated Transportation Solutions

45:18 Yeah. I think, Brian, from a structural standpoint, think about our businesses or contracts is like typically three to five year contracts. On the Dedicated side, there is a CPI clause, but it's typically capped kind of at a historical average, let's say, around 3%. What we saw in the middle of the year was a huge spike in wages.

In many markets, it was easily 10% increase and in some accounts and markets, it was as high as 30% to 40%, believe it or not. So what we've had to do is proactively go to all customers regardless of when that contract opens up for those discussions, and really negotiate that rate increase.

46:02 On the Supply Chain side, kind of the same process, but as I said before, half your business there is cost plus, so those are easier discussions. And we're down to just a handful on the Supply Chain side.

Did I answer your question?.

Brian Ossenbeck

46:19 Yeah. So it sounds like similar to FMS and lease, market's far stronger, you're able to take advantage of that, maybe go through some of the negotiations to get them I guess to be able to not have similar challenges in the future.

Do you think that affects growth at all in terms -- are people willing to pay up for these new costs and pass-throughs?.

Steven Sensing President of Global Supply Chain Solutions & Dedicated Transportation Solutions

46:42 No. Everything that we sold in the back half of last year in both Dedicated and Supply Chain had new contract language, which opened those discussions up more frequently throughout the year. So we have not seen it slow down. Excited about the pipeline, it remains at historical levels. Good quality deals, good-sized deals in there.

So we're off and running on the sales side here in the first part of the year..

Brian Ossenbeck

47:12 Okay..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

47:11 Yeah, Brian, I think the key is, these are really market cost increases that we're seeing, so it's not a Ryder unique issue. So I think customers are certainly seeing that.

And I would -- I guess I would just add to what Steve said about our contracts is, we've got a good chunk of them that are more of a cost-plus or cost pass-through, but for those that were not, we were really -- some of those were really written to handle normal wage increases, call it, 3%, 4%.

But these spikes that Steve talked were not contemplated. The important thing is going forward now, we are including those in the -- in not only in the new agreements, but as it comes time for renewal, we are working those in so that in the future, we don't run into the same issue..

Brian Ossenbeck

47:57 Got it. And then Robert, a follow-up. Just maybe talk more about the strategy and the initial, I guess, performance for Whiplash and Midwest, both still pretty early, but you're taking some pretty big steps to expand into that area.

Maybe we'll certainly hear more at the Investor Day, but maybe you can just give initial impressions of the deal, what you're trying to accomplish here strategically, and to the extent, do you have any technology integration here that's going to help kind of accelerate some of these platforms that are already in pretty strong growing segments? Thanks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

48:34 Yeah, look, I think, Brian, key to our strategy was to really accelerate the growth in our Supply Chain and Dedicated businesses. Over time, those have been better return businesses and really high growth areas. So within Supply Chain, obviously e-fulfillment, e-commerce is a really important fast-growing part of that.

We're very excited about both these acquisitions. Whiplash is really giving us a significant boost in our e-commerce fulfillment initiative. Now we've become a meaningful player in that space. Not only do they bring operational expertise doing e-commerce fulfillment, but also technology. So we are very excited about that opportunity. So far, so good.

Integration has gone well. It really is becoming our e-fulfillment platform. 49:30 And around Midwest, again it was really a shot in the arm in our CPG space. Also, adding multi-client warehousing, which is a product that we didn't have a lot of presence here in the U.S., but the team does a great job in that area, the Midwest team.

So we're excited about also bringing them into the fold. 49:53 So again, these are both investments that are consistent with our capital allocation strategy, and really giving us a boost in Supply Chain and Dedicated. If you think about the revenue mix for the company historically, it has been about 60% FMS, 40% Supply Chain and Dedicated.

These two acquisitions are gaining us much more to a 50-50, which ultimately is the way we expect the business to move more towards. So I think overall, good for the market, good for the opportunities for our company and for Ryder, and good for the shareholders..

Brian Ossenbeck

50:32 All right. Thank you, Robert..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

50:36 Thanks, Brian..

Operator

50:38 We'll now take our next question from Justin Long with Stephens..

Justin Long

50:44 Thanks. Robert, I think you said earlier on that used truck pricing environment, you expected it to be up slightly for the full year, but it sounds like first half and second half assumptions are different.

So I was wondering if you could give us some color on how you expect used truck pricing to progress as we move throughout the year? And maybe what that kind of exit rate looks like versus where we are today? And I guess similarly as we think about the quarterly cadence of gains on sale, is there any color you can give us there on what's baked into the guidance?.

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

51:23 Yeah. We're -- In the guidance, by the way, it's still very hard to tell when things are going to begin to soften, because there's such a shortage of new trucks in the market. OEM production continues to be constrained, OEM truck production. So that is really I think driving a significant boost for used truck prices.

We think that's going to continue at least through the middle of the year. As we get into the second half of the year, we expect it to begin to moderate as some more new trucks are put into the market. And maybe a bit of a slowdown on the freight market side.

51:58 So, our assumption is continued strength in used vehicle pricing really in the first half. And then coming down slowly into second half, maybe exiting the year down year-over-year, maybe 5% to 10%, but again that's still really early in the year and that could change as we get closer.

It could end up being better but we think right now where we're at is probably the best guess..

Justin Long

52:29 Okay, that's helpful. I appreciate the time..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

52:34 Okay. Thank you, Justin..

Operator

52:39 We'll now take a follow-up from Stephanie Moore with Truist..

Stephanie Moore

52:45 Hi. Thank you. Just as a follow-up. Robert, could you talk on the technology opportunities? I know you mentioned the success you're seeing with RyderShare, but if you could discuss some of the other tech investments like SmartHop, COOP, and really any other new areas you would look to explore on the technology front for the future? Thanks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

53:05 Yeah. Stephanie, that's a great question. Clearly, technology is becoming a really important component to our offering, especially on the Supply Chain side. So we're -- we expect to continue to make investments in RyderShare. RyderShare has been a real home run for us.

Allowed us to win new business, the customers that are using it are – we’re getting great feedback from them, giving them that visibility. Now, we're expanding the visibility not only on the trucks but also in the warehouse. So giving that end-to-end visibility, allowing customers to make smarter decisions, that is important.

I think we're going to continue to invest in that type of technology, probably linking it more into the operations -- into the operational execution components over time. So that's on the Supply Chain side. I think you're going to continue to see that. 53:57 On the COOP side, you mentioned COOP.

We didn't talk about it on the call today but we're -- our plan this year is to really rollout COOP more broadly and nationally. We're making -- we're seeing some nice gains in that part of the business where more customers are getting comfortable with lending their equipment and renting their equipment to others, the peer-to-peer sharing.

Along that we're also seeing investors who are willing to buy trucks, used trucks and put them on COOP to use them kind of -- you see on the auto side, it happens with some of the companies that are doing something similar on the auto side. 54:36 So we're very encouraged by what we're seeing so far.

And we expect by the end of this year to really have a much better idea of the long term opportunity for COOP. So yes, I would expect us to continue to make those types of investments. And I think over time, technology will continue to be and become a bigger and bigger part of our story..

Stephanie Moore

55:04 Great. Thank you..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

55:06 Thanks, Stephanie..

Operator

55:10 We'll now take our last question from Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo..

Allison Poliniak

55:15 Hi, guys. I just wanted to go back to SCS and the potential inorganic opportunities. Certainly, some nice acquisitions that brought in in strengthening exposure in certain verticals.

How would you view -- I mean, is it more organic sort of focus that you're looking at or are there still some inorganic opportunities out there that you're looking at to maybe fill some holes or brought in other exposures? Any thoughts..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

55:38 Yeah, I think the engine for growth is organic, but clearly, we still see opportunities to pick up new capabilities like we did with Whiplash. We think there are some other potential areas that we would look to -- to look for capabilities. We've talked historically about healthcare, adding that vertical potentially.

Returns is another area that we would look at. We've got some capability there but maybe bolster that. And then in some areas, even if it makes sense to do some tuck-ins, Steve, I don't know if I've missed anything there..

Steven Sensing President of Global Supply Chain Solutions & Dedicated Transportation Solutions

56:16 No, I think you're right on. We're always looking at our strategy and trying to stay ahead of the game. I'd say within Ryder last mile and e-com, we're going to continue to add our footprint, expand our footprint into new geographies. So it's key for us to continue to get closer and closer to the end consumer..

Allison Poliniak

56:35 Perfect. Thank you..

Operator

56:40 At this time there are no additional questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Robert Sanchez for closing remarks..

Robert Sanchez Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

56:47 Okay, great. Well, listen, thank you for the questions. Thanks for the interest. As I said at the beginning, really proud of the results that we delivered and just as excited about what lies ahead for us now in 2022 and beyond. So thank you all for your interest..

Operator

57:07 And that concludes today’s conference. Thank you all for your patience and your participation..

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