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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q4
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Company Representatives

Patrick Kaltenbach - Chief Executive Officer Shawn Vadala - Chief Financial Officer Mary Finnegan - Head of Investor Relations.

Operator

Good day! And thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Mettler-Toledo Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. . Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. .

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Ms. Mary Finnegan. Please go ahead..

Mary Finnegan Head of Investor Relations & Treasurer

Thank you, and good evening everyone. I'm Mary Finnegan. I'm responsible for Investor Relations at Mettler-Toledo, and happy that you are joining us this evening. I'm joined on the call today by Patrick Kaltenbach, our CEO, and Shawn Vadala, our Chief Financial Officer. Let me cover just a couple administrative matters.

This call is being webcast and is available on our website. A copy of the press release and the presentation that we referred to on today's call is also on the website. Let me summarize the safe harbor language, which is outlined on page two of the presentation.

Statements in this presentation, which are not historical facts constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and the U.S. Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

These statements involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results, level of activity, performance or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statement.

For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please see the discussion in our recent Form 10-K and other reports filed with the SEC from time-to-time.

All of the forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by reference to the factors discussed under the captions, Factors affecting our Future Operating Results, and the business and management discussion and analysis of financial condition and results of operations sections of our filings.

One other item, on today's call we may use non-GAAP financial measures, more detailed information with respect to the use of and differences between the non-GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP measure is provided in the 8-K. Let me now turn the call over to Patrick..

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mary, and good evening everyone. We had a great finish to 2021 with strong fourth quarter results. We capitalized on robust customer demand and executed very well, particularly we respect our supply chain to meet customer demands. The strength and agility of the teams around the world are reflected in these results.

The highlights of the quarter are on page three of the presentation. Local currency sales growth was 11% and we have particular strong growth in the Americas and Asia and rest of the world. Both our laboratory and industrial product lines performed very well.

As expected, food retail was a headwind to overall sales growth as we again had a significant decline in the quarter. Despite pacing higher material and transportation costs due to challenges in the supply chain, we had very solid growth in adjusted operating profit and strong growth in adjusted EPS in the quarter.

The fourth quarter was the end to an excellent year of results. For the full year we achieved an 18% increase in local currency sales, a 26% increase in adjusted operating profit, which resulted in a margin improvement of 130 basis points. We have – we had outstanding 32% growth in adjusted EPS and finally, cash flow generation in 2021 was excellent.

We not only achieved great results. We also strengthen our competitive position in 2021 as innovation nourished our excellent product portfolio and comprehensive services offering combinable with our Spinnaker sales and marketing strategies, helped us capture growth opportunities.

We also did a good job navigating the hurdles in the global supply chain. Our agility and excellent execution further reinforced our already strong brand. Importantly, our impressive results last year allowed us to make important investments for future growth.

We are confident in our ability to continue to gain share and believe we are ideally positioned to deliver strong results in 2022 and beyond. I will have some additional comments later, but let me turn it first to Shawn to cover the financial results. Shawn..

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

A reminder that comparisons in the first quarter are particularly challenging as adjusted EPS grew more than 60% in Q1 last year. We would expect gross margins to be down in Q1 due to higher supply chain and transportation costs.

We will provide more insight on our next call, but it is worth mentioning now as you update your models, that Q2 will have a very tough prior year comparison as local currency sales were up 27% and adjusted EPS increased more than 50% in the second quarter of last year. Some final details and guidance.

With respect to the impact of currency and sales growth, we expect currency to decrease sales growth by approximately 1% in 2022, and decreased it by 2% in Q1. In terms of adjusted EPS, currency is a little worse than the last time we provided guidance.

We now expect currency will be headwind to adjusted EPS growth of approximately 1% in 2022 and a headwind of approximately 2% in the first quarter. Let me comment on free cash flow. For the full year 2022 we estimate it will reach $855 million.

As we mentioned on our last call, our cash flow this year is impacted by higher variable compensation payments related to the very strong performance in 2021. In fact we expect cash flow in Q1 to be down versus the prior year.

Once we get beyond 2022, we expect free cash flow per share will grow in line with earnings per share and net income conversion will be in the 100% range. We expect to repurchase approximately $1 billion in shares in 2022, which should allow us to maintain a net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of approximately 1.5x. That is it from my side.

And I’ll now turn it back to Patrick. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

one environmental; two, sustainable products and services; three, responsible supply chain; four, engaged employees; and five, good corporate governance. While we have an excellent track record in ESG, we have set ambitious targets for the future.

Importantly, we have recently committed to absolute emission reduction targets consistent with the latest criteria issued by the Science Based Targets Initiative. This will cover scope one, two and three emissions. We have also set a target to reduce our waste intensity by 20% and achieve zero waste to landfill by 2025.

To reinforce the importance of ESG, executive management compensation in 2022 will incorporate specific environmental, as well as diversity targets. I think both Blue Ocean and our ESG goals are great examples on how Mettler-Toledo focuses on the long term to enhance the value of our franchise.

I would now like the operator to open the call for questions. .

Operator

. Your first question will come from Dan Arias with Stifel. Please proceed with your question..

Eric Chung

Hi, this is Eric on for Dan. Thanks for taking the question. Just one on capital deployment, could you just discuss your plan for that, for the year besides the $1 billion share buyback.

Like are you finding any assets becoming more attractive given the recent market moves that might have you looking for ones that might be on a larger scale than the usual smaller tuck in deals?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah hey! Maybe so, I guess there's two parts to that question. So you know in terms of our M&A strategy, I’ll let Patrick kind of comment on that, but no change in our strategy. We still think we're a great platform for bolt-on acquisitions. We also feel very strongly about our organic story. So we're very selective in terms of the acquisitions.

But if you look at like the PendoTECH acquisition we did last year, I think that's a really excellent example of the type of acquisition that we're looking for and PendoTECH of course has been a great addition to Mettler-Toledo. In terms of capital deployment, you know we also feel good about our share repurchase program.

The programs continues to be very successful from our perspective and we target about 1.5x net leverage ratio and right now we're expecting to repurchase about $1 billion of shares in 2022 and as a reminder, we do that on a very consistent basis throughout the year. .

Eric Chung

Okay.

And then could you just provide a rundown of the top line assumptions by segment for the first quarter and for 2022, that they can see improved guide?.

A - Shawn Vadala

Yeah, sure. So hey, I’ll start with the divisions. So I'll start with the lab division. Right now our guidance is low double digit growth for Q1 and high single digit growth for the full year. For core industrial, we expect high single digit growth in Q1 and mid-single digit growth for the full year.

For product inspection, we expect high single digit growth for Q1 and high single digit growth for the full year; and for food retailing we expect to be down double digit in Q1, but grow low single digit for the full year. And then I'll also give you the geographies.

For Europe we expect Q1 to be up mid-single digit to high single digit, and for the full year to be up mid-single digit. For the Americas we expect to grow low double digit in Q1 and grow mid-single digit to high single digit full year; and then for China we expect to grow approximately 10% in Q1 and approximately 10% for the full year. .

Eric Chung

Thank you so much. .

A - Shawn Vadala

You’re welcome. .

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Derik De Bruin with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. .

Unidentified Analyst

Hey! This is on for Derek, thanks for the question. So geographically a two-parter on China here. Are you seeing any impact in China specifically from lockdowns and also you know trade tensions are heating up with some touching, the bioprocessing, CDMO segment. Is there any concern that the trade issues could slow demand for lab products. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, let me take that term. Look, I mean our business in China has been very strong. We have a very strong footprint in China. We have been there for 30 years. We served many customers that are broad based.

Also as a reminder of more than 40% of all business in China is industrial business, but to biopharma and what we’re seeing there is very healthy trends for us.

We have overall not seen impacts from lockdowns in the last quarter and right now this is what we are hearing from the team, is they are not concerned of any of the impact that you mention regarding biopharma right now. .

Unidentified Analyst

Great! And then one more on the margins for the quarter.

What were some of the – can you go more into detail on some of the pressures you saw and how do you kind of expect them to impact early on in 2022? Do you think there's going to be any carry over there?.

A - Shawn Vadala

Yeah, hey! So I'll take that one. So hey, maybe I'll talk more broadly about the margin and then kind of like, then kind of talk about 2022 as well. So as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, our gross margin was down 110 basis points in the quarter. On one hand we had favorable price realization.

Our price realization was just over 3% in the quarter, which would translate to approximately 140 basis point benefits to the margin. Of course we also benefited from our volume in the quarter. But the one thing that clearly stood out from our perspective was the higher material costs, as well as higher transportation costs in the quarter.

And as we kind of like look to Q1, we are expecting to see similar trends overall for gross margin with probably very similar dynamics you know. Probably that pricing will continue to be in that 3% kind of a range, but we’ll still continue to have like a bit of a headwind on material costs and transportation.

So if we look at gross margin for Q1, I wouldn't be surprised if we're down another 100 basis points in Q1, but we still remain very confident about our ability to expand the margin.

And so as we look to the full year, we still believe we can expand our gross margin by 30 to 40 basis points and we expect to still increase our operating margin overall at the higher end of our typical guidance.

So as a reminder, we typically would say ‘Hey! We can expand margins on an annual basis, 70 basis points to 100 basis points,’ if you look at the mid-point of our guidance, towards the higher end of the range of that, probably about 90 basis points.

So when you break that down, we are expecting a little bit better pricing in 2022 than we previously expected. We were previously guiding to about 3% for next year.

Right now we're thinking it will be probably 3.5% or so and wouldn't be surprised if we get to the 4% kind of a range in the second half of the year, because of course we're going to continue to adjust and do actions as we see appropriate, especially as we saw some of the pressures in the fourth quarter on our cost structure.

But it's not only about pricing of course. We're also going to be doing some things in terms of optimizing our supply chain as we continue to look for opportunities; for example, to reengineer components or look for other sources in the supply chain. .

Unidentified Analyst

Great! Thank you..

Operator

Your next question will come from Josh Waldman from Cleveland Research. Please proceed with your question..

Josh Waldman

Hi! Thanks for taking my questions, just a couple for you. Shawn or Patrick, I guess from a demand outlook perspective, could you talk through the product areas or the regions that improved versus your plan 90 days ago that led you to pull your organic growth up I guess early in the year. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Maybe I’ll start Shawn and let you chime in as well. So let me talk to the product categories. I mean we see sustained demand, healthy demand in our lab business moving forward, so we – and Shawn gave you the numbers in terms of the growth expectations, so lab I would say holds up very strong. It has been strong in Q4 ready.

We are also pleasantly surprised by the momentum that we still see in industrial, driven by demand for automation and digitalization and our product portfolio that we have there really serves the demand very well.

I think I mentioned in my comments also the fact that we’re still seeing some healthy appetite in product inspections from some of the packaged food companies out there.

So overall I would say we are actually, on a broader front across these categories that I just mentioned, we are nicely surprised that we see stronger demand than we anticipated when we gave you the last guidance and that's why we raised the guidance.

That's basically – I wouldn't point to any specific end market here, not to any specific region I would say. Overall obviously better demand than we expected. .

Josh Waldman

Got it, got it. Then Shawn, I wondered if you could provide us a bridge to the updated earnings guide.

I mean it sounds like most of the increase was due to organic growth; I guess is that correct? And then if you could provide us kind of your assumptions for the low and the high end of the EPS range as it relates to maybe organic growth and margin, that would be helpful. .

A - Shawn Vadala

Yeah hey! So I'd say you know, if you kind of bridge EPS, you know it's like you said, a lot of it has to do with higher sales growth, increasing the sales growth. Of course we also added in our beat for 2021, which includes a lower tax rate you know at 19% and that was offset a little bit, that was offset a little bit by unfavorable currency. .

Josh Waldman

Can you provide the range or the assumptions that went into the range for the updated guide, EPS guide?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah hey! We typically don't get too much into like the specific assumptions for the low end and the high end.

I mean we – you know for the top line for example we said approximately 7%, so I don't want to try to start deviating from is the you know six point this or seven point that or you know the margin is a little bit lower, a little bit higher, but you know you could probably flex your model and get a sense for you know what that would translate in terms of an EPS range.

But you know you can appropriate Josh. I mean there's a lot of – you know there's a lot of ingredients into the recipe. At this point and time of the year a lot of things can change as we get into the year.

It’s a very, very dynamic environment and so there's always going to be things that can be a little bit better, but there's – of course there's things that can be a little bit worse. .

Josh Waldman

Sure. I appreciate it guys..

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

You're welcome. .

Operator

Your next question will come from Tycho Peterson with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. .

Unidentified Analyst

Hi! This is Rachel on for Tycho. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the quarter you guys. And so, a few questions here on lab. So lab was better than expectations. You guys grew about 15% growth guidance of low double digit for 4Q.

So can you talk about if you saw any catch up spending on the lab side of things and then were there any other underlying changes in the market to drive the beat there?.

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

No, look I wouldn't say there was catch up or any pent-up demand. We see really strong demand for our products. We have a very strong product portfolio.

I think it competes extremely well, but we also have been able to deliver to our end customers and that came to some extent as some cost as Shawn also mentioned that drives – that has a little bit of impact on our gross margin, because we do broker buys, etc.

the make components more expensive, but it's very important for us to really make sure that we can deliver products to our customers. Overall, I think we see very strong demand for our products and it's reflected in those numbers. There's not a specific market segment that I would point to.

Pharma, biopharma as we said is very strong for us in labs , but is also of course deployed in other segments like even in battery segment or if you look at the – some broader chemical segment of course.

All of the last buy products from us and there is a demand from these end markets, none of them really specifically that sticks out in terms of change versus what we have guided regarding Q4. .

A - Shawn Vadala

Yeah, and you can see that strong momentum is also reflected in our Q1 guidance, you know of low double digit for lab. .

Unidentified Analyst

Yeah, I hope so. And then maybe going off that for the segment guidance, so I appreciate the comments around the expectations by geography as well. So it looks like you have an improved outlook in Europe and Americas for the year.

So can you just talk about what's driving our confidence in those regions? Is it specific segments that’s driving it or kind of what drove the increase there?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yes, so the Americans yeah was up a little bit. I mean we just continue to – I mean you saw what we did in the fourth quarter in the Americans as well. I mean it's just really, not the overuse the word, but really good momentum, very broad based growth in the portfolio and that was despite our food retailing business being down in the quarter.

You know I would say our industrial business is – you know our lab business is doing very well, but our industrial business continues to be really resilient and performing well and as Patrick was saying earlier, you know we very much are benefiting from a lot of these trends towards automation and digitalization.

I mean there's just a huge demand in the world to be more productive and we're just very fortunate to be in a position to be able to help serve that demand. And you know the teams have done just such a great job in this division.

There's a lot of good innovation; there’s also really good execution and you know as we've been trying to also pivot the business towards the more attractive market segments over the years, we continue to see that paying a lot of dividends.

And then also as Patrick mentioned, you know there are these hot segments in the world, both on the lab side and the industrial side that we also have been good at in terms of capturing growth. .

Unidentified Analyst

Great! That's it for me. Thank you. .

A - Patrick Kaltenbach

Yeah, thank you..

Operator

Your next question will come from Jason Reiver with Citi. Please proceed with your question. .

Jason Reiver

Hey there! You got Jason on for Patrick. Congrats on a great quarter! Two quick questions for you; one, are you seeing strength in the industrial market? Just curious about the visibility into that strength into ’22. And then two, just wondering on how PendoTECH is performing relative to expectations and any further color to shed there. Thanks. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I’ll take that. Good questions on industrial. I think it is – as we look into 2022, of course we will face tougher comparisons as I said as we’re going deeper into 2022 towards the second half, but we see good demand in the end markets.

It’s driven efficiently in all major regions by demand automation and for digitalization; Shawn mentioned that as well. That’s really a fundamental driver.

We have an outstanding performance – platform there on the product side to serve those demands and we are confident that also the new products that we launched this year like the industry 362 and one of our media presence, these demands nicely, and that we think it will continue in 2022.

Of course, even if you have tougher comparisons you can all see the same growth rate in the second half, but we are competing extremely well that. On your comment regarding PendoTECH, we was very pleased with that acquisition. Actually it outperformed our expectations in 2021 and we see continued strong demand as we go into 2022 for the products. .

Jason Reiver

Great! Thank you. .

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Jack Meehan with Nephron Research. Please proceed with your question. .

Jack Meehan

Thanks and good afternoon. Another question on industrial, but was hoping you could weigh in. You know we're seeing higher commodity prices along with the talk around inflation.

Was curious just from a demand perspective, if you saw that playing out in terms of any industrial customers for your coverage, just amongst your customer based on the industrial side. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

No. Hey Jack, this is Shawn. We are not seeing that impact any of our customer demand at all. An interesting comment, but no, we are not seeing it from a customer side. .

Jack Meehan

Interesting! Okay, and then back on product inspection. So the guide for the first quarter high singles, you know the headline looks good, I have that compounding though, still kind of in the low single digit given the comps.

Just to be curious, just to get a little bit more color as you're talking with your customers when you think, just the timing for when some of the reviews spend could be going in the CapEx. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

I'm sorry, Jack. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Jack, its okay. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Okay. Go ahead Patrick. Yeah. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Okay Shawn, I’ll take it, okay. We are really happy with the results of product inspection in Q4 and also with the full year results. We are clearly a leader in product inspections. We have the broadest product range and also the largest services network.

Our outlook for 2022 is good and we are assuming that we see more investment from last manufacturing. So there's some pent-up demand and that's why we also guided to double digit growth in the first quarter and we expect this segment for us to perform really, really well.

But also as a reminder to understand, food manufacturers represented only about 70% of our product inspection business. And these customers have been impacted by COVID. Remember last year we talked about the fact that it was also difficult for all the service people to get in some of these accounts and deliver service. That is coming back.

It has come nicely back, so we will also see better service growth that we had last year in this segment as well. .

Jack Meehan

That’s helpful. Thank you, Patrick. .

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Matt Skykes with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question. .

Matt Skykes

Hi! Thanks for taking my questions, I appreciate it. Maybe Patrick just a high level one for you, as you think about the supply chain, you have been dealing with a lot of challenges there.

It sounds like you’ve been making a number of investments in Blue Ocean and other areas to try to improve that, and I'm sure this environment has probably led you to see a number of pressure points that you might be able to alleviate with spend.

But I guess my question is, if we do come out of it and supply chain does start to loosen up, do you feel like the investments that you've made so far will lead to a greater efficiencies and productivity and maybe acceleration margin expansion if we get out of this, because of what you've already put into the business to make it better..

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

We'll look – a very good question Matt, thanks. I mean we continuously invest in Blue Ocean since many, many years, so. We have right now about 85% of the overall business is on Blue Ocean. But we still have a couple of rolling to do, but we are making good progress there.

Definitely the investments we are doing are all targeting productivity enhancements across the board, so we will continue to benefit from those. Whether it will be an acceleration of margin improvement, I don't think so. I mean we have some history. We have made all these good improvements in margin expansion.

So I wouldn't put that into consideration when we move forward. We will make – we will continue to make improvements, but I think we will see acceleration just by the fact that we do these investments of Blue Ocean. We have done this in the past and making great process.

We are absolutely convinced, it is a competitive advantage for us and it will continue to drive improvements, but not accelerate it. .

Matt Skykes

Got it. And then maybe Shawn, you had mentioned in your prepared remarks some uncertainty around China, you know which I think is pretty apparent, that you are looking for sort of 10% growth for the year.

Anything that you are concerned about regarding China underlying that kind of uncertainty comment or is it sort of COVID related, lockdown related type issues. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean we're not seeing anything specific in our business Matt, but it's just that general, you know knowledge that everyone has about, like there’s just a lot of things going on there.

I mean it could be – like you said it could be COVID, it could be lock-downs, the way that they handle COVID with their zero tolerance policy, you know could have implications on the business or in the local economy.

PMIs have been floating right around 50 on and off, but there's always uncertainty there and then there's always – and we always say things can change quickly there, right, they can go in either direction very quickly, that's always been our history there.

So I think for us it's always important to remind people that when we give guidance to provide that type of caution so that people understand those risks. But when we look at China, and we look to the medium and the long term, we were very favorable.

I mean we continue to feel very good about the growth, we continue to feel very good about our business. We feel like a lot of the government's focus with their five year plan, in terms of life-sciences and health and safety, a lot of the emerging industries that they are heavily investing in, they all played very well to our portfolio.

And this general theme of automation and digitalization also is a big theme in China as well. And so – and as they continue to expand the economic development to the west, I mean we’ll – our industrial business will also benefit. So we continue to feel very strongly about it, but in the short term there can always be volatility..

Matt Skykes

Understood. Thanks, very helpful. .

Operator

Your next question will come from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question..

Vijay Kumar

Hey guys! Congrats on a nice print year and thanks for taking my question. I guess I have two, one on the Q itself. The gross margin here is sequentially flattish. Historically you guys have had a very strong Q4 gross margin.

I'm curious, was there any defining element here in the Q4 around what happened to gross margins?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

No. Hey Vijay! This is Shawn.

No, I mean – basically we just saw the cost inputs increase much faster than what we expected, and it was kind of broad based in a lot of different cost categories, but I’d probably highlight electronic components as an area that was much higher than the others, and also transportation costs came in higher than expected which was a little bit of a surprise if you just think about like, it's not a new topic and we were already facing cost headwinds in terms of transportation going back to Q4 of last year.

But like we always say, like I think the key in this environment is to make sure that we have – you know the systems in place to be able to monitor these changes and so that we can react quickly and I think you know – and that’s what we are doing. We are highly focused on it as an organization.

We are going to see some similar trends in Q1, but I think as you kind of look to the full year, we certainly still feel good about our ability to expand margins and as I said earlier, before we still believe we’ll expand our gross margin for the full year, 30 basis to 40 basis points, and then from an operating margin perspective we’ll expect to be at the high end of our typical guidance, probably around 90 basis points at the midpoint of the guidance.

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Vijay Kumar

That’s helpful Shawn. And maybe one for Patrick here. The Q1 guidance here, your comps are really though.

I'm just curious, given the lock downs here in China, what visibility do you have into those numbers or what is driving the and the guidance raised for the year by 100 basis points, how much of that was a pricing versus margin if you will?.

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah well, I mean it's – look, I have to get that out. Our confidence in Q1 is driven by the demand we are seeing. As we said, we are dramatically impacted by any lockdowns in China right now. There is of course a little bit uncertainty moving forward. It might have some impact, but we are pretty confident that on 10% that we have given you for Q1.

We see the demand, we see the regions performing not only Asia Pacific and not only China; it’s also the US and Europe is performing as we expect and that gives us confidence that we will have a solid, really solid Q1.

In terms of you know the outlook questions, it’s a little bit of both, it’s a little bit of volume and it’s also of course a little bit of pricing. I mean we don't want quantify it. Shawn already make comments on pricing, but it’s a component of both. We have volume increase and we have some pricing impact as well. .

Vijay Kumar

Got it. Thank you guys. .

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Brandon Couillard with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question..

Brandon Couillard

Hey! Thanks. Good afternoon. Just a couple for you Shawn. In terms of pricing for the year, should we think about that as being fairly similar between lab and industrial or is it more weighted towards one segment or the other.

And secondly, looking at your gross margin outlook, is your expectation that kind of material transport headwinds paid by the second half or is that still a drag on the gross margin line?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, hey good question, Brandon. Hey! So in terms of pricing, it's probably slightly better on the lab side than on the industrial side. And if I just think about the portfolio, but of course you know we'll have good price increases in both divisions.

In terms of material costs, I think we'll certainly see a drag, you know probably through certainly in the first half of the year. I'd like to think by the time we get to Q4 we are not going to see a drag and so hopefully there's a little bit of a benefit by the time we get to the fourth quarter.

But I wouldn't count on too much right now until we see things play out. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

That's true for both, that’s true for material but also transportation. We don't think that will ease up before the second half. .

Brandon Couillard

Got you, that’s helpful. And then just one follow-up on China in the fourth quarter.

Could you break out the lab versus the industrial businesses for the fourth and kind of what you are assuming for those two segments for ’22, just within China?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yes sure. So our lab business in the fourth quarter grew about high 20s and then our industrial business in the quarter grew mid-single digit, and you know kind of for the full year, we are expecting lab to be probably like low double digit and then with industrial probably like mid-single digit. .

Brandon Couillard

Okay. Thank you. .

Operator

You're not your next question will come from the line of Catherine Schulte with Baird. Please proceed with your question. .

Catherine Schulte

Hi! Thanks for the question. I guess first, you mentioned consumables and services were up 10% in the quarter.

How sustainable do you think that growth is going forward and what’s your expectation from those categories in 2022?.

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Very good question Catherine, thank you. I mean look, I think we have very good potential in consumables and services.

In services of course we are going after our installed base, making sure that those customers who do not have their products on the contract can also switch to contract, because it just gives them a more reliable service panel, all in terms of you know early maintenance, etc. The 10% we have seen, both definitely very strong in Q4.

I would say my expectation for services, it maintains in the high single digit range for 2022. It’s a very profitable business for us and we are putting a lot of emphasis on making sure that our customers understand the benefits of our services and we are broadening the service offering over time. So I think this has quite some runway. .

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, hey Catherine! Maybe one additional comment on the consumables is of course, we won't have the benefit of the COVID testing that we've had in the past. So that could be a little bit of a headwind. .

Catherine Schulte

Yes, okay got it. And then in pharma and some other industries we've seen, a bigger push for on-shoring and creating redundancy in supply chain as COVID has played out.

Where do you think we are in terms of that phenomenon and capacity build out? I’m just curious how much longer you think that could continue to be a tailwind for the market?.

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

I think it will probably continue as it played out in 2021 and 2020 into probably next one or two years. That’s what we are seeing at least from some of the accounts that we are closely monitoring, and I think it's not only pharma by the way.

We see also some very good momentum in semiconductor where you know the big facility is coming up now in the United States where a lot of core facilities are coming back to the United States, which is also a very good business for us. So I think that again that will continue from our perspective at least through 2022 and may be also 2023.

It's definitely some good tailwind for the overall market. .

Catherine Schulte

Great! Thank you. .

Operator

Your next question will come from Lu Li with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question..

Lu Li

Thank you for taking my questions. Just want to follow-up on the pricing. I think you mentioned 3.5% or even close to 4% for this year.

Do you hear any push back from customers, and then does that impact your ability to further increase the pricing for next year?.

Shawn Vadala Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, hey! So yeah, hey just to clarify, so I said that we’ve – our guidance previously was 3% and we kind of like thinking it's about 3.5% or so for the full year, but we wouldn't be surprised if we were in the 4% kind of a range in the second half of the year.

We continue to feel good about our ability to pass on price when we need to, when we face these inflationary challenges, and I think we'll continue to do that as market conditions change. .

Lu Li

Got it. Another question on the 7% of growth guidance.

Does that change your long term growth outlook like, should we think about like 7% going forward?.

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Very good question. Maybe, I’ll start with some backdrop. We believe we have strength in our competitive position throughout the pandemic and tend to believe that we are coming out of COVID strong. We have a very strong foundation across many businesses, we have market leading positions, we have excellent product portfolio and a global service network.

I think we are able to adapt our sales and marketing tools and techniques to the new environment and as a result we continue to gain share as we mentioned it many times, despite a challenge in these environments. Our market is nicely rebounded in 2021 and it worked very effectively to capitalize on these growth.

Now looking forward, I still think you should think about us as a mid-single digit growth on an organic basis in the mid-term. That’s about the dimension that we also think about it. It of course will depend on how the underlying market performs. It goes back to where it has been pre-pandemic. I think that’s the wide range we are thinking right now.

Of course if there is a momentum in the market, we will – again our goal is to grow above our underline market. But, I would like you to think still a mid-single digits. .

Lu Li

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. .

Operator

At this time there are no further questions in queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mary Finnegan for any closing remarks..

Mary Finnegan Head of Investor Relations & Treasurer

Thank you. And I just have two additional comments before I let you go for the night. First, we anticipate holding an Investor meeting at our facility in Boston on Monday, November 7. We'll come back to you with more details in the coming months, but wanted to mention it to you now as you plan your calendars for this year.

Second, we are happy to announce that Adam Uhlman has recently joined our Investor Relations team. He was formally a Senior Equity Research Analyst at the Cleveland Research Company. Adam will take over the lead in Investor Relations later this year, as I will retire towards the end of 2022.

It's great to have Adam onboard and I look forward – please join me in welcoming him, and I look forward to introducing him to you in due time. For the time being, please continue to director your Investor Relations matters to me. As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Take care everybody. Bye-bye. .

Patrick Kaltenbach President & Chief Executive Officer

Bye-bye..

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. .

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