Danielle Rosatelli - William S. Gorin - Chief Executive Officer and Director Gudmundur Kristjansson - Senior Vice President Craig L. Knutson - President and Chief Operating Officer.

Cole Allen - FBR Capital Markets & Co., Research Division Lucy C. Webster - Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division Charles Nabhan - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division.

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Thank you for standing by. Today's conference has assembled, and welcome to the MFA Financial, Inc. fourth quarter earnings conference call. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Danielle Rosatelli with some opening statements.

Please go ahead..

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Information relating to comparable GAAP financial measures may be found in the fourth quarter 2014 earnings release and earnings presentation slides, each of which has been filed with the SEC and posted on our website at mfafinancial.com. Thank you for your time. I would now like to turn this call over to Bill Gorin, MFA's Chief Executive Officer..

one, there were some realized gains; two, there was an approximate 0.25 point downward movement of value for Non-Agency holdings; and third, as we've explained in prior quarters, the discount accretion or Non-Agency MBS increases our amortized cost.

This lowers other comprehensive income, which is a component of stockholders' equity and increases earnings, which were dividend-ed out.

Gudmundur will now present the next 3 slides, which show an update on MFA's interest rate sensitivity, the relationship between Agency and Non-Agency prepayment speeds and the relationship between premium amortization and discount accretion..

Thanks, Bill. On Slide 7, which we should see momentarily, we show the interest rate sensitivity of our portfolio as measured by net duration as well as the duration of our assets and liabilities. The duration of our assets declined 20 basis points to 1.6 at the end of the fourth quarter from 1.8 at the end of the third quarter.

The decline was caused by the continuing seasoning of our portfolio; the cumulative effect of falling mortgage rates, which would be expected to shorten cash flows; and because new acquisitions in the fourth quarter primarily consisted of RPL and NPL MBS that have low sensitivity to interest rates.

The duration of our hedges declined modestly to minus 3.6 at the end of the fourth quarter from minus 3.7 at the end of the third quarter, as our hedges shortened naturally over time. We did not add any new interest in hedges in the fourth quarter.

And finally, our net duration also declined modestly to 56 basis points at the end of the fourth quarter from 62 basis points at the end of the third quarter. As you can see, MFA continues to limit the interest rate risk in this portfolio and is well positioned for increased interest rate volatility in a more uncertain monetary policy.

Now let's move to Slide 8. As the 10-year treasury yield has fallen from approximately 3% at the end of 2013 to about 2% currently, and 30-year mortgage rates have declined approximately 75 basis points to 3.75 during the same period, the market's focus on prepayments concerns have increased.

It is therefore worthwhile to review the prepayment profile of MFA's portfolio. First, it is important keep in mind that our Agency MBS were acquired on average premium of approximately 4%, while our Legacy Non-Agency MBS were acquired on average discount of approximately 25%.

And therefore, if prepayments on both asset classes increase at the same rates, we would expect for the impact to be a net positive to MFA, as the Legacy Non-Agency MBS discount is about 6x larger than the Agency MBS premium.

Second, as we can see on Slide 8, historically, changes in prepayment speeds on MFA's Agency and Legacy Non-Agency MBS are generally trended together; increasing at the same time and decreasing at the same time. Now let's move on to Slide 9. Here, we compare MFA's Agency MBS premium amortization and Legacy Non-Agency MBS discount accretion over time.

Keep in mind that premium amortization is a negative for our earnings, while discount accretion is a positive for our earnings. As we can see from the graph, between 2011 and 2012, premium amortization and discount accretion were roughly similar.

But since Q1 2013, our Legacy Non-Agency MBS discount accretion has increased significantly, while our Agency MBS premium amortization has declined modestly. The increase in Legacy Non-Agency discount accretion was caused primarily by the cumulative transfer [Audio Gap] as well as the sizable growth in our Legacy Non-Agency MBS portfolio in 2012.

Currently, the Legacy Non-Agency MBS discount accretion is more than double the Agency MBS premium amortization.

In summary, because prepayments on Agency MBS and Legacy Non-Agency MBS generally trend together and discount accretion is a significantly larger component of our income than premium amortization, we are not concerned about the impact of increased prepayments on our portfolio.

With that, I will turn the call over to Craig who will talk about our Non-Agency holdings..

Investments in this asset class utilize much the same residential mortgage credit expertise that we have effectively deployed in the Legacy Non-Agency space since 2008; supply dynamics suggest that we will have significant opportunity to purchase these assets as cardholders are obliged to shed them; total supply is estimated at between $500 billion and $1 trillion, with $30 billion to $50 billion of expected annual sales in 2015 and, again, in 2016.

Compare this to Legacy Non-Agency, which is the shrinking market with fewer and fewer opportunities to purchase bonds. But don't get me wrong, we're glad to own $5 billion of Legacy Non-Agencies, but it will be virtually impossible to acquire a portfolio like this today.

We're also excited to have the ability to oversee servicing decisions on troubled loans. For instance, by offering modifications to borrowers when such a modification will produce a better net present value outcome than foreclosure and liquidation.

Again, compared to Legacy Non-Agency MBS where we have no seat at the table, no visibility into the decision and often see losses pass through to the truck that's looking excessive [ph].

Also, Residential whole loans are good assets for us, that is, the qualifying interest for purposes of REIT qualification, which most RPL/NPL mortgage-backed securities are not. And residential whole loans are also qualifying interest for purposes of our 1940 Act exemption, which Legacy Non-Agency MBS are not.

And finally, we believe that credit sensitive residential whole loans further round out MFA's focus on credit versus pure interest rate risk. Turning to Slide 15. We are buying these credit sensitive whole loans at material discounts to both their unpaid principal balance and also to the underlying property we value.

Our $350 million portfolio comprises over 2,300 loans acquired through 10 transactions with 10 different counterparties. We've established relationships with dozens of key market participants, most of whom are different than our trading partners for Legacy Non-Agency and RPL/NPL MBS.

We also note that we've added some leverage in the fourth quarter to this asset class, and we're in discussions with additional lenders to add more financing in 2015. Leverage ratios on this asset class could conceivably grow to 2 to 3x debt-to-equity.

But additionally, if we were utilize securitization financing in the future, this leverage ratio might increase again as this leverage would be term, nonrecourse and non-mark-to-market. And now I'd like to turn the call back over to Bill..

Thanks, Craig. So you might have noticed, as we continue to diversify our residential mortgage asset, we -- our presentation has become a little longer, but let me sum it up. We continue to utilize our expertise to identify and acquire attractive credit sensitive residential mortgage assets.

We've substantially grown our holdings of RPL/NPL securities and loans. Our credit sensitive assets continue to perform well. Now we don't say that we know exactly what the Fed will do and when they'll do it, but what's important is that we're well positioned to grow changes in interest rates and grow our prepayment rates.

Tom, with that, I'd like to -- please have you open up the lines for questions..

[Operator Instructions] Your first question today comes from the line of Dan Altscher with FBR Capital Markets..

This is actually Cole Allen, on for Dan Altscher. So first off, I guess I did notice that you guys ticked up the leverage in the whole loans portfolio, and you just talked about it going to eventually a 2 to 3x.

What are you guys' expectations for how quickly that becomes a 2 to 3x levered and I guess, the reasons that you think behind adding leverage to that portfolio?.

So this is a question we answer one way or the other in every call. We don't manage to a leveraged goal. It's a question of adding assets that we think are attractive to the shareholders and if we're growing the portfolio, which we clearly did in the fourth quarter, leverage steps up. So we don't have a goal to change the leverage.

We do have a goal to continue to acquire assets that we think will yield high single-digits, low double-digit ROEs. So -- not going to give you a goal, but you're right, leverage did pick up, and that's because we substantially grew our assets..

All right. That's very helpful. And then I guess one other quick question on CPRs. It actually seem like in general portfolio, CPRs kind of ticked down for the quarter.

What have you guys been seeing so far in 1Q as treasury yield have rebounded a little bit?.

This is Gudmundur. Well, I can tell you, on the Agency side, we've seen, actually, CPRs trended down in the first quarter from the fourth quarter..

[Operator Instructions] We'll go to Lucy Webster's line with Compass Point..

I was hoping you could talk about the RPL/NPL market and how you characterize the activity so far this quarter.

What you're seeing on a volume and pricing standpoint there?.

So just to be clear, Lucy, on the RPL/NPL mortgage-backed securities market or the whole loan market?.

Yes, the MBS market..

The MBS market. So -- well, the calendar was actually quite crowded in December. There were a lot of deals that came at the end of December, and we were actually lucky that a lot of the securities we picked up in the fourth quarter, we picked up at the end when the market widened out. I think we've seen continued supply into January and February.

And the market has certainly tightened somewhat from where it was at the end of the year. So if -- to -- just to throw those numbers out, if the market cut is wide, it's 4% yield at the end of the year, it's probably back into about 3.5% yield now..

Okay.

And then, are you seeing any change maybe on the whole loan side to your foreclosure or liquidation time lines there?.

In our portfolio?.

Yes..

In the whole loans spaces. It's really hard to tell because most of these trades, we probably only own for a little more than a month. So it can be difficult or impossible to sort of discern any trend..

Okay.

And then I was just wondering, have you guys ever disclosed who does your sub-servicing for you?.

We haven't. We're using Fay Servicing for a substantial portion of it, but they're not the only servicer that we use..

And next, we'll go to the line of Charles Nabhan with Wells Fargo..

If I could follow up on Lucy's question regarding the RPL/NPL MBS market and just get a sense for what you're seeing in terms of competition for those assets..

Well, it really varies. So again, as I said before, at the end of the year, I think there were a lot of deals that issuers wanted to get done before the end of the year. So frankly, there probably wasn't a whole lot of competition then.

We've probably seen a little bit more competition in -- certainly, in January and into February, but there's a tremendous volume of these deals. And so if the worst thing that happens is we've put in for an order for $75 million or $100 million and we only get $50 million or $75 million, it's hardly a disaster. So there's a lot of supply of this.

The existing deals pay down pretty quickly, and you see issuers call deals and then reissue deals to relever them. So I think the supply/demand dynamics are actually pretty good..

Okay. And I apologize if you touched on this, but I wanted to get a sense -- get your thoughts on the CRT market and how you think about that asset class and if we could potentially -- if that's a type of asset you would potentially look at for your portfolio..

So we actually -- I think we have it in the press release, but we -- you'll certainly see it in the K, we have participated, to a lesser extent. I think our total holdings of the CRT transactions is about $100 million.

We do think it's interesting when they -- again, it's like everything else, we approach it opportunistically if the spreads get wider, which they did in the fourth quarter, they become more attractive to us, less so as they tighten. So we're certainly involved. We like the asset because it really has no duration. They're monthly floaters with no caps.

On the other hand, it's -- the way it's structured, it's not a good lead asset, it's not a good asset for purposes of the 40 Act exemption. So I think our participation will be somewhat limited, but we certainly see that as attractive, especially as spreads widen out..

[Operator Instructions] And gentlemen, nobody else is queuing up at this time..

Great. Thank you, all, for joining us today, and we look forward speaking to you again next quarter..

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