Good morning and thank you for joining Lincoln Financial Group's Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Later we will announce the opportunity for questions and instructions will be given at that time.

[Operator Instructions] Now, I'd like to turn the conference over to the Corporate Treasurer, Chris Giovanni. Please go ahead sir..

Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to Lincoln Financial's second quarter earnings call. Before we begin, I have an important reminder.

Any comments made during the call regarding future expectations, trends and market conditions, including comments about sales and deposits, expenses, income from operations, share repurchases, and liquidity and capital resources are forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.

These risks and uncertainties include those described in the cautionary statement disclosures in our earnings release issued yesterday, as well as those detailed in our 2019 annual report on Form 10-K, most recent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and from time-to-time in our other filings with the SEC.

These forward-looking statements are made only as of today and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of them to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this date.

We appreciate your participation today and invite you to visit Lincoln's website www.lincolnfinancial.com where you can find our press release and statistical supplement which include full reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures used on the call included adjusted return on equity and adjusted income from operations or adjusted operating income to their most comparable GAAP measures.

A slide presentation containing supplemental second quarter 2020 earnings and investment portfolio information is also posted on our website in the Investor Relations section. Presenting on today's call are Dennis Glass President and Chief Executive Officer; and Randy Freitag Chief Financial Officer and Head of Individual Life.

After their prepared remarks, we will move to the question-and-answer portion of the call. I would now like to turn the call over to Dennis..

Thank you, Chris. Good morning everyone. As we all know the pandemic's course and economic consequences including lower interest rates are both challenging and difficult to predict. However, Lincoln is very effectively dealing with the immediate COVID-19 operating issues such as working-from-home and virtual-selling.

We're also aggressively responding to the overall health, economic, and capital market environment. Our near-term focus continues to be on maintaining our already strong balance sheet, actively repricing products to achieve appropriate returns and delivering on expense savings targets.

Additionally, over the medium to long-term, our emphasis is on improving the way we operate by capitalizing on the benefits of the accelerated shift in digital and virtual selling to increase wholesaler and employee productivity, adding new well-priced products to complement our refreshed product portfolio, and drive growth and targeting additional expense-saving programs.

We expect all these actions will create long-term competitive advantages. I will cover each of these items later, but first I will touch on second quarter results.

Second quarter adjusted operating income was affected by elevated claims experienced from COVID-19 and negative returns within our alternative investment portfolio, both consistent with our expectations. Excluding these items, adjusted operatings per share would have been more consistent with the very strong prior year quarter.

Based on the current level of equity markets, we see a lift in third quarter earnings related to higher fees on assets under management and a recovery and returns on the alternative investment portfolio. We also expect lower COVID-related claims.

In aggregate, prior to any impacts from our annual assumption review, we expect adjusted EPS more in line with results from the first quarter of 2020. As I just mentioned, we are responding aggressively to the current environment.

In the Individual Life and Annuity businesses this includes active product repricing related to lower interest rates and in some products, higher reserve requirements.

Also as we noted on our first quarter earnings call, we are reducing the amount of capital deployed towards new sales by approximately $400 million this year to help maintain our strong capital position.

The overall product strategy is to continue to reprice products when necessary to achieve our targeted returns, shift our selling emphasis to products achieving good returns, and providing a powerful consumer value and add new products. In short, our reprice, shift, and add new product strategy.

With this backdrop, I will go into more detail on each business focusing a little more on product sales and net flows in the individual lines. Starting with the Life Insurance business. We have one of the broadest portfolios of Life products in the industry and the strongest distribution platform.

This has enabled us to target several products that do not require significant repricing, including term and indexed universal life, where sales are up 7% year-to-date and Executive Benefits, which while lumpy quarter-to-quarter, have consistently contributed to annual sales.

Life products most affected by price increases include Universal Life, MoneyGuard and variable UL, where we expect sales to be down materially in 2020. With changes to these products and as new products developments kick-in, we are confident we will rebuild sales levels achieving strong returns on capital and contribute to future earnings growth.

In the Annuities business, we achieved positive net flows driven by lower surrender rates and strong growth in variable annuity sales without guaranteed living benefits, which represented more than half of our total annuity sales.

Index variable annuities, a great example of a product achieving good returns and providing a powerful consumer value, were up 68% over the prior year quarter, surpassing $1 billion in sales this quarter. Total annuity sales were down as we reduced benefits on VAs with living benefits and deemphasized fixed annuity sales due to lower interest rates.

However, we are capturing the asset protection value propositions through our indexed variable annuity, which is more capital efficient and provides better new business returns. Though our collective pricing actions are dampening near-term sales, they are protecting the strong returns we have long had in our annuity business.

Beyond our repricing, the shift in ad components of our strategy will create additional opportunities as we look to 2021. Shifting to our employer-focused businesses, where repricing isn't as significant. In Retirement Plan Services, strong growth in first year sales generated a double-digit increase in total deposits.

Net flows were affected by two large case terminations. However, we expect to have positive net flows in the second half of the year. At the planned sponsor level, recurring deposits are facing some headwinds from employees reducing or eliminating matching contributions and workforce reductions.

At the participant level, we have not seen meaningful outflows related to the CARES Act and our high-tech high-touch model coupled with our innovative -- product customers, better navigate these uncertain times and drive our future growth.

Lastly on Group Protection, premiums increased mid-single-digits as we benefited from improved persistency, renewal rate increases and start sales. We believe the pandemic has only increased national awareness of needs to Life Insurance and disability and leave management products as evidenced by our premium growth.

But we may see some disruption in new business sales due to the pandemic. We expect the benefits of our well-diversified customer base will continue to result in strong premium growth while our focus on pricing actions and expense efficiency will improve our margins.

Bottom line, across all businesses we are in a good position of having created the broadest product portfolio in the industry, the best distribution and a proven ability to combine these differentiators to shift sales products with strong value propositions for the customer and good returns for Lincoln.

Now shifting to other strategic areas of focus in the current environment. First on the balance sheet, we remain in a very strong position. Our RBC ratio ended the quarter at 444% and positions us well to manage through this period of uncertainty.

During the quarter, we also expanded our highly reliable and committed sources of liquidity within our insurance subsidiaries to approximately $9 billion, up from $7 billion in the first quarter. While we certainly do not expect any liquidity issues, these programs can be used to manage any cash flow stress that might develop.

At the holding company, we have $774 million of cash and our next maturity is not due for three years. In addition, we have our $2.25 billion credit facility. Within the invested portfolio, we continue to manage credit risk more defensively by adjusting our new money allocation to higher-rated investments as well as proactively derisking.

As we've mentioned in the past, we began derisking our investment portfolio a number of years ago, leveraging our multi-manager investment model to analyze a variety of adverse scenarios to identify those securities that have the potential for significant credit deterioration in an economic cycle.

We continued with the execution of our program in the quarter, derisking the portfolio by another $1 billion. We remain focused on high-quality new money purchases and when combined with our derisking actions, the overall quality of the portfolio continues to improve.

With our exposure to BBB- and below securities decreasing 60 basis points on a sequential basis. Year-to-date, negative RBC impacts from the investment portfolio are running better than our expectations, supported by our derisking program and the benefits of various government support programs including the Fed's action on credit markets.

While we remain confident with our balance sheet and capital positions, we expect to stay paused on share buybacks for the third quarter a prudent approach, given that economic outcomes remain unpredictable.

Expense management also remains a key focus in the near-term with Liberty synergies of $125 million nearly achieved, digital savings on track for $40 million to $50 million this year and progressing towards our $90 million to $150 million target and we have also made significant progress on our third savings initiative, an additional $100 million this year to help offset near-term pressures.

We expect to maintain this $100 million going forward by leveraging virtual sales capabilities, sustained increased workforce productivity and capitalizing on the recent acceleration in digital adoptions by both advisers and customers, all of which enable us to conduct business more efficiently.

We have a track record of responding with expense programs to help maintain margins and are optimistic about our ability to deliver on these targets. And we'll provide more details as we progress.

In closing, second quarter results were impacted by the pandemic and equity markets but as I noted, we expect earnings to recover to more normal levels in the third quarter. Our balance sheet is in a strong position.

We are making pricing changes where necessary and still selling a significant amount of new business at good returns and adding new products to drive future growth opportunities and we are executing on existing and new cost save initiatives to strengthen earnings.

All of these position Lincoln for a long-term success and deepen our competitive advantages in order to drive long-term shareholder value. I will now turn the call over to Randy..

Thank you, Dennis. Last night we reported second quarter adjusted operating income of $187 million or $0.97 per share, a difficult quarter but consistent with our expectations. There were no notable items within the current or prior year quarters.

However, as expected, this quarter was negatively impacted by COVID-19-related claims and performance in the alternative investment portfolio. First on COVID. We estimate that COVID-related claims reduced earnings by approximately $125 million to $145 million or $0.65 to $0.75 per share.

We provide an estimated range for COVID impacts because there is undoubtedly a level of imprecision in estimating claims due to timing and recording of deaths. This is slightly above the mortality sensitivity we provided previously.

Looking forward, we now estimate every 10,000 COVID-19 deaths in the United States to impact our earnings by approximately $10 million with $8 million still hitting the Life business and $2 million in Group. In addition, we anticipate morbidity headwinds in Group related to the economic environment. Next on Alternatives.

Returns were negative, which reduced earnings by $0.62 per share relative to our targeted annual return of 10%. This represented a negative 7% pre-tax return in the second quarter. We reported a net loss of $94 million.

Importantly, the majority of the difference between our adjusted operating income and our net loss was the result of $150 million in items we consider to be non-economic. Related to accounting associated with our 2018 sale of Annuity business to Athene and variable annuity GLB non-performance risk.

Specific to the Athene transaction, as we have noted in the past, changes in fair value for many of the assets run through the balance sheet while the offsetting change runs through the income statement. This non-economic impact will fluctuate but over time will subside and reverse.

Additionally, this year's new accounting standard for expected credit losses or CECL reduced net income by $79 million. Lastly, the variable annuity hedge program performed very well with 99% hedge effectiveness and another volatile quarter for the capital markets. Now turning to segment results. Starting with annuities.

Reported operating income of $237 million compared to $266 million in the prior year, with the decrease primarily driven by negative returns within our alternative investment portfolio. Average account values decreased 3% on a sequential basis, but end-of-period of account values increased 10% over the same period.

Given the increase in end-of-period account values, net amount at risk increased to less than 2% of account values for living benefits and less than 1% for death benefits. This compares favorably to nearly 4% for both as of the end of the first quarter. Base spreads excluding variable investment income increased one basis point on a sequential basis.

G&A expenses net of amount capitalized decreased 12% year-over-year as the entire organization focuses on helping offset pressures from the economic environment. Hurt by negative investment results, ROA came in at 71 basis points and ROE at 19%.

Looking ahead, we expect tailwinds from the equity markets and variable investment income to drive a recovery in earnings and returns to more normal levels in the third quarter, excluding any impacts from our annual assumption review.

Retirement Plan Services reported operating income of $30 million compared to $42 million in the prior year, with the decrease driven largely by alternative investment performance. Deposits totaled $2.3 billion and included growth in both first year sales and recurring deposits.

Average account values decreased 3% compared to the first quarter though end-of-period values increased 10%.

Base spreads excluding variable investment income comprised 24 basis points versus the prior year, which was above normal, primarily due to lower yields on floating rate securities, where the crediting rate on the match to liability adjusts less quickly, combined with the impact of significant deposits towards quarter end.

G&A expenses net of amounts capitalized decreased 11% year-over-year, which led to a 110 basis point improvement in the expense ratio. Similar to the Annuities business, we expect tailwinds from equity markets and variable investment income to drive earnings higher in the third quarter. Turning to our Life Insurance segment.

We reported an operating loss of $37 million compared to operating income of $168 million in the prior year with the decrease driven by mortality related to COVID-19 and alternative investment performance. COVID-19-related mortality was consistent with our previously stated expectations within the Life business.

Underlying earnings drivers continued to show growth with average account values up 2% and average Life Insurance in-force up 10%. G&A expenses net of amounts capitalized decreased 11% year-over-year, which led to a 20 basis point improvement in the expense ratio. Base spreads were consistent with the first quarter.

As a reminder, the year-over-year decline is above our five to 10 basis point expectation due to a non-economic change to our crediting rate methodology. Looking forward, based on what we know today, we expect the third quarter to see less of an impact on mortality from COVID-19 and a strong recovery in variable investment income.

Group Protection reported operating income of $39 million compared to $68 million in the prior year quarter, with the decrease primarily driven by COVID-related mortality. The loss ratio was 77.8%, a 70 basis point improvement on a sequential basis, but up four percentage points compared to the prior year period.

Group Life loss experience was impacted by COVID-19 with the majority of the increase attributable to the pandemic. Our disability loss ratio is consistent with recent quarters, but elevated compared to the prior year quarter.

While we saw some improvement in LTV incidence rates on a sequential basis, claims resolutions were lower, which we attribute in part to indirect impacts of COVID-19 including the resulting economic conditions. Offsetting disability was favorable dental experience, which we largely attribute to COVID-19.

We expect to see this normalize in the third quarter as access to dental care resumes. Results were negatively impacted by alternative performance with that negative being offset by G&A expenses, net of amounts capitalized that declined 8% over the prior year quarter, driving a 170 basis point improvement in the expense ratio.

While disappointed by this quarter's elevated loss ratios, our results were affected by several direct and indirect impacts of the pandemic. However, we are encouraged by our premium growth and expense management. Before shifting to capital let me make a few comments on third quarter expectations.

As Dennis noted, based on what we know today, we expect earnings to recover to more normal levels in the third quarter excluding potential impacts from our annual assumption review.

This is driven by some of my earlier comments about tailwinds from equity markets, strong expected returns from the alternatives portfolio and lower expected mortality related impacts from COVID-19 compared to the second quarter. As you know, we will also complete our annual assumption review in the third quarter.

As a reminder [Indiscernible] review included a charge related to interest rates reflecting the impact of the drop in rates on the starting point a lower long-term ultimate interest rate assumption and extending our grading period.

Interest rates are much lower today than they were last year which could impact the interest rate component of our assumptions again this year. That said I do not want to front-run the process as there are lots of people working on the review and it's ultimately about what all the impacts add up to. Turning to capital.

We ended the quarter in a strong capital position with statutory capital of $9.7 billion and an RBC ratio of 444% up five percentage points since our 2019 annual filing.

At the holding company, we have $774 million of cash and during the second quarter, we further improved our liquidity position by paying off our 2021 debt and prefunding our $300 million debt maturity due in 2022. The result being our next maturity is not due until September 2023.

So to conclude, as expected earnings results were impacted by COVID-19-related claims and performance of the alternative investment portfolio. Excluding the impact of these items operating ROE would have been approximately 13%. Expense management was excellent as all four businesses reduced G&A expenses resulting in a 7% decrease in consolidated G&A.

Lastly, our capital and liquidity positions are strong and have in fact grown stronger during this current period of uncertainty as a result of management actions. With that let me turn the call back over to Chris. .

Thank you, Dennis and Randy. We will now begin the question-and-answer portion of the call. [Operator Instructions] With that let me turn the call back to the operator. .

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Erik Bass with Autonomous Research. Your line is open..

Good morning. Thank you.

First, can you just help us think about the sensitivity to any changes that if you were to make any to your long-term interest rate assumption or the grading period? And should we look at what happened last year and expect that the impact would be similar?.

Erik, its Randy. Thanks for the question. So as I said in my script, if you go back to last year the interest rate component was a negative in the overall unlocking it was in total $291 million and it was impacted by three different areas. First, the starting point and changes to the ultimate rate in the grading period.

The starting component of that was $139 million of negative last year.

And when you think about our assumption think about the starting point as a mark-to-market, right? So our starting point where are we investing money today? What is the market? Then you have the ultimate rate which is more of a subjective view of where could rates go to over time and then what connects them is the grading period.

Last year that $139 million impact from that objective view of our rates were -- was driven by the fact that that rates were lower. And again, this year rates are lower. So it wouldn't be surprised if that one component was negative again this year.

In terms of the more subjective view of where rates could go over time, I think that's part of the process for reaching out for the managers collectively coming up with a reasonably -- reasonable view of what that future could be. And that will be part of what we're doing right now and what we'll do over the remainder of the quarter.

So I think that and hopefully that gives you some insight. I also said in my script and I just want to remind everybody, at the end of the day interest rates are one piece of what is a broad set of assumptions and so we'll review all of those assumptions. And while the interest rate piece of that may have a negative bend to it right now.

At the end of the day it's going to be about what all the assumption impacts add up to. .

Okay. Got it. That's helpful. And then a bigger picture question for the Life business.

Does the pandemic experience change your view at all on risk retention limits and the amount of reinsurance you may look to utilize especially since you don't have any material exposure to longevity businesses that act as an offset to mortality?.

Erik. No, I don't think so.

The pandemic itself, I think, the use of reinsurance and the amount of reinsurance we use is more aligned with things like is the cost of reinsurance at that moment in time attractive what is our risk appetite as a company? And as we talked about mortality and morbidity-based earnings are something we we're very comfortable with.

We are very comfortable with our ability to underwrite Life Insurance. And so our current retention program and just as a reminder we keep up to the first $2.5 million. After that we reinsure the majority of the risk we keep a small percentage of it. So we're very comfortable with that.

And I don't think the pandemic changes our view of appropriate risk retention. .

Got it. Thank you. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Krueger with KBW. Your line is open. .

Hi. Thanks. Good morning.

On the capital position in the $400 million of expected free cash flow benefits this year from lower sales activity, I guess, has that come through in the first half of the year at around half of that pace? I guess, the reason I'm asking is RBC ratio is kind of just steady in the quarter I thought it may have increased some more given the lower sales actually to be strategic review some of the moving parts of the RBC ratio in the quarter, and if you'd expect to build in the second half of the year?.

Thanks, Ryan. Thanks for the question. Yes, I think, a little more than half came through in the first quarter and it's really driven by -- in that first year what our expectations are around fixed annuity sales.

The fixed annuity sales have a pretty big first year drag on their own and for a lot of valid reasons, we have termed back our sales of pure fixed annuities.

In terms of what you saw in the second quarter why didn't the RBC ratio grow I'd just remind you that the two big items we talked about in GAAP, COVID-19 claims and alternative performance those also occur in statutory. So -- and actually they're a little bigger in statutory because you don't have a DAC offset.

So if you think about those two items providing roughly $300 million of headwinds to statutory results in the quarter. When you think about some other items we had some other small negatives that we put up. So you're talking about $350 million to $400 million of headwinds that we saw on a statutory basis.

So I'm very happy actually that overall capital state level for the quarter. It just means that underlying all that there were some good strong statutory means. So I'm very happy with the results in the quarter and have actually seen a fair amount of the benefit driven by lower fixed annuity sales on the denominator. .

Thanks. And then on buybacks, I know, it's still pause for the third quarter.

But as you've seen credit experience coming quite a bit better so far I guess is it -- would it be potentially contemplated to bring the buyback back before the end of the year at this point?.

Ryan, its Dennis. And I think we'll just stay with the -- a couple of comments. One it's very unpredictable these days. I mean as we all know there's so many drivers of what might happen over the next several quarters, which could affect earnings, which could affect our investments.

So I think right now the focus is on maintaining our high-quality strength in the balance sheet. And at this point, we'll just comment that the -- we're pausing for the third quarter. .

Got it. Understood. Thank you. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. .

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. I guess, my question follows up on the capital question to a certain degree. You guys obviously no little while ago did that philosophy insurance deal with the fee and that was not helpful to free up capital for buybacks.

Obviously, given where interest rates are from what we're hearing right there is a greater bigger spread on some deals in the market right now.

But do you guys have a view on whether you'd be more or less willing to transact in other deals? And then would you consider transactions similar to that to not free up capital potentially return to buying back your shares sooner than you might otherwise?.

Elyse, its Dennis. I think your first point, which is that low interest rates have an effect on what you get for selling blocks of business. And so I think right now it's probably -- there may be some deals done, but it's hard to clear the table for buyer and seller on blocks of business.

We've seen some very strategic activity in the marketplace, which go beyond sort of just pure return from the sale of the block. But absent the strategic deals I think it's been pretty quiet. We continue to be in the flow of opportunities and we'll continue to see what makes sense.

And so we're open-minded focused, and if something comes along that makes sense for both buyer and seller we would do it. But again I think it's -- we'd be sort of, again I'm going to keep coming back to the unpredictable circumstances that we're in I think that shows that marketplace a little bit. .

Okay. That's helpful. And then you guys provided an updated sensitivity on COVID, right? That's a little bit higher within Group than what you guys expected before.

I guess when thinking about the mortality impact in the third quarter, is it just as simple as we should just kind of like pay attention to the death rate number of lives and kind of use of sensitivity there, or what would – given the mix of your book in the third quarter, what could cause that to vary within Group where things could potentially trend in a little bit better than expected?.

Elyse, its Randy. Thanks for the question. We think about COVID-19, we spent a fair amount of time last quarter coming up with our estimates. We included our doctors, we included our data experts in terms of analyzing the different studies that were out there. We included our actuaries in terms of understanding our own mix of business.

So we spend a lot of time. I think that shows in the overall fact that our estimate came very close to our actual experience. I've actually been a little surprised by some of the companies I've seen out there who missed by upwards of 75%. I'm not really sure why we've seen those sorts of gaps.

But we spend a lot of time and so we're very – nobody's happy with claims but we think we did a really good job of estimating the potential impact. As we mentioned, in the Life business we had $8 million. When the final number came in we're right in line with that. So that number sticks.

But in the Group business we did see a little pick up from $1 million, which was the estimate we provided last quarter to what we're now updating the $2 million. I don't think there's anything truly impactful in there. I think it just reflects a growing understanding of exactly how the pandemic is going to hit different areas of the economy.

So we felt good about the nine. It came in pretty close. We'll update it to 10 and we feel that provides a good estimate as we move into the third quarter. .

Okay. Thanks for the color..

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from John Barnidge with Piper Sandler. Your line is open..

Thank you.

As we look forward in the Group Protection segment, can you talk about how you square favorable claim trends in dental in the likelihood that a segment of the population is just not going to use their benefits this year and square that with renewal pricing and the prospect of catch-up claims or emergence of more severe claims in 2021?.

one, we don't have all of the death certifications yet. So that number will probably go up more. And then we believe based upon our analysis that there's a fair amount of under reporting especially in April in terms of cause of death associated with COVID. So we believe that COVID was the primary driver in the quarter.

And as we move into the third quarter while we have increased our sensitivity from $1 million to $2 million, we do believe that overall the impact of COVID-related claims will fall because we believe that the number of deaths will come in below the 125,000, the U.S. experienced in the second quarter.

In terms of disability, it's a little more difficult to predict exactly how disability is going to be impacted by COVID and the overall impacts that it's having on the economy. As I mentioned in my script, incidents for the quarter, while improving a little bit from the first quarter is still up a little bit year-over-year.

Now that incidence really is associated with stuff that's going on in the fourth quarter. So we're happy that, the incidence started to trend down. But it is still a little bit up, year-over-year. And then in terms of termination experience, as I mentioned, we did see a little tick down in our termination experience.

And we think that's most likely, an indirect impact of the pandemic, as it's more difficult to get people in to see, their doctors et cetera et cetera. So it's a little more difficult to project exactly how a disability experience will move forward.

But as I said in my script, we wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit of headwind, in the Disability business associated with pandemic. And the resulting impact on the economy. I hope that's helpful..

Thank you very much..

Our next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Your line is open..

Good morning. And as you guys look to pivot to a derisking approach into 2021, I think it makes sense that it's going to free up more capital and improve cash flow.

But it will likely put more pressure on GAAP earnings growth I'm assuming, whether that's on the yield side, as you think about risk or the weaker sales this year translating into lower revenue growth next year.

Is that a fair way to think about it, Randy? And if so, how much -- how many points of GAAP EPS pressure do you think that strategy you'll have assuming that lasts for the next several quarters?.

Yeah Tom, let me take a quick -- let me take the first response to that. We're not pivoting to a de-risked approach in 2021 so much as, we're watching the developments. And right now we're being a little bit more cautious about deploying capital.

If things improve which I hope they do for America for all the right reasons that could change our view on how we deploy capital. So that's one point. The second point is.

And we've been emphasizing this a lot is, the expense management activities that are underway can improve earnings and to some extent offset the -- to your point, the growth in earnings in 2021 that's lost a little bit to the lower level of sales that we're seeing in 2020.

So we're continuing to pull all the levers to focus on earnings growth, at the same time that we're watching on protecting our capital base. Because again, we just said, this a couple of times, it's very -- we're in very unpredictable times. And so I think being cautious on capital deployment, is the right answer.

But not stopping there and taking other actions, such as expense management to offset some of the GAAP earnings issues associated with that..

Got you, and would you guys be able to offer up any way you could think about the impact, if we isolate put the expense initiatives on the side is this maybe a couple of points of growth being sacrificed, or is it potentially more meaningful than that?.

Tom, it's kind of difficult to answer that question. I mean, if you look at some of the components of our 8% to 10% growth targets over time, I think you get about 4% from new business. That will come down a little bit I don't know how much. We get 1% from expense efficiencies that will come up a little bit.

Whether or not they completely offset each other would be hard to predict right now. Then you got the impact of capital markets and spread compression then you have share buybacks. So all of those things contribute to, the long-term outcome and a little bit unpredictable in the short-term..

Got you. And then my follow-up is, the 55% free cash flow conversion ratio that you've given out. How should we be thinking about that now? I presume it may actually get better, just given the level of capital that gets freed up from lower sales.

Is that a fair way to think about it? And can you shed any light into, how you're thinking about the 55% ratio? And is it -- are we going to have -- I guess my question is, are we -- is there enough potential adverse impacts from credit and low rates that it's still not going to trend above 55%, or do you think, it might actually move above that?.

Hey, Tom, it's Randy. Thanks for the question. I think you highlighted most of the relevant points. So I'll add one to what you mentioned. On its, own lower sales is supportive of statutory earnings. So that's a positive in that regard.

What's the other side of statutory earnings is what is your required capital right? So what at the end of the day are your distributable earnings? That's statutory earnings less your change in required capital. And that's driven by a lot of factors, including the level of sales and the sales come down that's supportive.

But addition to that is really the big driver of the change in required credit capital will be what goes on in the credit markets? And that's really where a lot of the uncertainty in the current environment lies.

And that's as Dennis mentioned, if we look into the third quarter we still think it's uncertain enough where the best action is to not do buybacks. We'll reassess that in the fourth quarter. And as we get around the planning for next year and looking at the results we'll make our best estimates what we think as we look into 2021 and beyond.

But ultimately, what happens to free cash flow I think is going to be determined to buy what we believe will be the impact on the credit markets of everything that's going on whether that's the pandemic or the resulting impact on the overall economy..

That makes sense. Thanks, Randy..

Yep..

Thank you. Our next question comes from Humphrey Lee with Dowling & Partners. Your line is open..

Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. Just a couple of clarification questions. So, you mentioned about full alternative returns you expect better results in the third quarter.

Do you anticipate the return to be better than kind of your normal run rate so providing a decent tailwind in the third quarter?.

Humphrey, its Dennis. The – again, I don't think we're going to predict exactly what's going to happen in the alternative portfolio in the third quarter. Let me just say, this as we seen the effects of capital markets and energy prices on our returns in the second quarter both of those are trending up.

And so we therefore think that our alternative returns will be trending up. We – for the last six or seven years, we have about a 10% return on our alts portfolio. Our alts portfolio today consists about 88% private equity and the balance in hedge funds private equity returns generally have a higher long-term outcome and return.

So we're comfortable in the long-term with our 10% and our experience supports that. And again, quarter-to-quarter it's sort of difficult to predict. But I will say that, what we saw in the second quarter had to do with equity markets in large part a little bit energy prices.

And again, those indicators have trended up in the third quarter, or in the second quarter affecting the third quarter alts business returns..

That's helpful.

And then Dennis in your prepared remarks you talked about the sales outlook for different channels and for Life Insurance you expect to be declining – to be down substantially for 2020 but what about for annuities? Do you expect some of the pressure to continue in the balance of the year? And if so, do you still anticipate the segments to see net inflows for a full year basis?.

Yeah. We'll have to see how net flows develop. Humphrey, though I would come back to the aggregate sales as we look forward are shifting more toward our index variable annuities and our – which is getting a good return. We continue to get additional shelf space. We continue to provide additional sort of value propositions within that product.

So we see that continuing to grow. As Randy and I both pointed out fixed annuities are just simply not an emphasis of ours today in our business model.

We would be investing at sort of in the new money range of 2% there's just not enough juice in a 2% investment return to provide both a good value proposition for the consumer and a good return on capital for Lincoln. So in aggregate, we would expect total annuity sales to be down driven mostly by a pretty significant decline in fixed annuities..

That's helpful. Thank you..

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Suneet Kamath with Citi. Your line is open..

Thanks. Quick just another question on capital. One of the things we've been talking about on second quarter calls has been the NAIC's review of the reversion to the mean assumption for interest rates in VA capital. A couple of companies have come out and said, if the NAIC were to change that wouldn't have a big impact on their positions.

And I think one company even came out and said they're very much in support of it.

I'm just wondering how -- what your view of that is? If there was a change would it have a significant impact on either your hedging strategy or your VA capital position?.

Hey, Suneet, its Randy. Yes, we're very supportive of the NAIC's efforts. I think if you think about the NAIC and the work they did and what's just referred to is the Oliver Wyman where -- they were very prudent in hiring an outside expert. They were very prudent in working with industry.

And I think they ended up at a very good spot, a spot that's good from the regulator. It's good for industry. And I think it will be the same with this. So we're supporting the effort. We will support it. I don't think it will likely come into effect until probably 2022, but we do not see it having a big impact.

And just as a reminder our hedge program is refocused on the economics. And essentially, they're talking about making the interest rate generator a little more reflective of the economics. And I don't think that's a bad thing..

Got it. And then my follow-up is just on the Life sales again. So MoneyGuard has historically been a really big differentiator for you guys. And I know that you talked about repricing your Life products.

But in this interest rate environment with credit spreads as tight as they are, can you make that product work in terms of repricing, or is it just sort of a difficult one for you guys to sell to achieve your returns, but also provide value to the customer?.

Suneet, its Randy. You can just look at the results, right? Sales are down 36% over the prior year. I think they'll fall even further as we look into the back half of the year. I mean, the short answer to your question is MoneyGuard really any general account type product is a tough sell.

It's tough to create a compelling value proposition for the consumer and a return for the company when you're investing money in the low 2s. So I think that we would expect that in the current environment that MoneyGuard sales will continue to fall.

I think there is a significant opportunity because MoneyGuard is an example of a product that speaks directly to a huge need for the American consumer. And I think there's an opportunity to create a compelling value proposition in MoneyGuard something we're working on right now. You know we created that's Lincoln's innovation MoneyGuard.

And we're actively working on creating what we believe is the next version of MoneyGuard, which thematically is going to be very similar to things we've talked about for instance with IVA right, lower guarantees, a different way to generate investment returns, shifting risk to the consumers probably moving to more of a variable-type chassis.

So I think there's a huge opportunity for a product like MoneyGuard, but yes when you're investing at rates we're investing at today the existing version of that product is a tough sell and I'd expect sales to be down in the remainder of the year..

Yes. Suneet, if I could jump in, in a period where we're preserving capital, our focus is on any capital that we're deploying to be absolutely certain we're getting appropriate returns. So yes, in aggregate sales will be down in the last half of the year, we think from the first half of the year in the individual lines.

But those products by line of business are getting in aggregate appropriate returns. So even though we're husbanding capital a little bit the capital that we're deploying is getting good returns on it.

And then as I mentioned and Randy just discussed, lots of activity in product development, so that we can begin to rebuild sales and continue to grow earnings from new business over time.

And I'd also come back to most of the pressure from interest rates and the repricing activity is going on in the individual lines and we're seeing good returns and higher levels of sales in both RPS and Group..

Okay. Thanks..

Thank you. And I'm showing no other questions in the queue. I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Chris Giovanni for any closing remarks..

Catherine, I don't think he's off mute. .

Mr. Giovanni, your line is open..

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