Good afternoon. Thank you for attending the Informatica Corporation Fiscal Q1 2023 Conference Call. My name is Elisa, and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call, with an opportunity for question-and-answer at the end. [Operator Instructions].

It is now my pleasure to pass the conference over to our host, Victoria Hyde-Dunn, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may now proceed, Victoria..

Thank you. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us to review Informatica's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Results. Joining me on today's call are Amit Walia, Chief Executive Officer; and Mike McLaughlin, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we have a couple of reminders.

Our earnings press release and slide presentation are available on our Investor Relations website at investors.informatica.com. Our prepared remarks will be posted on the IR website after the conference call concludes. During the call, we will be making comments of the forward-looking nature.

Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks and uncertainties. For more information about some of these risks, please review the company's SEC filings, including the section titled Risk Factors included in our most recent 10-Q and 10-K filings for the full year 2022.

These forward-looking statements are based on information as of today, and we assume no obligation to publicly update or revise our forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Additionally, we'll be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures.

These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these items to the nearest U.S. GAAP measure can be found in this afternoon's press release and our slide presentation available on Informatica's Investor Relations website.

With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Amit..

Data Management for Analytics, Q1 2023 report. And we are proud again to be named to CRN's Cloud 100 2023 List for the second consecutive year. And we also recently published our inaugural sustainability report, which speaks to our commitment to environmental, social and governance matters.

This report reflects how we continually strive to support our customers, communities and colleagues. Our cloud native AI-powered data management platform continues to resonate in the market with enterprise customers. In Q1, customers spending more than $1 million in subscription ARR increased by 27% year-over-year to 208 customers.

Customers spending more than $100,000 in subscription ARR increased 11% year-over-year to 1,921 customers as we continue to process new workloads and drive ARR growth across customers of all sizes.

Our global sales and customer success teams have done a terrific job unlocking value for our customers, increasing customer engagement through mission-critical workloads and upselling with new use cases leveraging our modern IDMC platform. I'll give you a few examples.

Gilead Sciences is a biopharmaceutical company that focuses on antiviral drugs advancing innovative medicines to prevent and treat life-threatening diseases, including HIV, viral hepatitis and cancer.

Building on its existing MDM usage, Gilead is expanding with new use cases to leverage IDMC's cloud data governance and catalog, data integration, data marketplace and additional MDM solutions to evolve the critical business systems, centrally manage the data and help them scale for the future.

Cathay Pacific Airlines, the flagship carrier of Hong Kong, they are supporting the new operations model, and they've adopted a cloud modernization strategy.

The Cathay Pacific team recognized that the cloud strategy would require a holistic, modern integration platform capable of handling operational, cloud and hybrid integration, application integration as well as data catalog and data governance.

A power center customer for over a decade, Cathay Pacific expanded the partnership with Informatica to modernize the data integration of the cloud. We also see success with our ability to sign new cloud logo wins.

Daimler Trucks headquartered in Germany is one of the world's largest commercial vehicle manufacturers with over 40 production sites across the globe and more than 100,000 employees. They manufacture trucks and buses such as the Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner, Western Star and Thomas Built Buses brand names.

In addition to financing, leasing, fleet management, investments and insurance brokerage services, Daimler Truck chosen Informatica's IDMC platform for their global data marketplace project.

They will leverage the IDMC capabilities to build a bridge between data producers on one side and data consumers on the other side, maximizing data's value, increasing productivity and supporting business initiatives. We continue to expand our ecosystem with increased partner engagement momentum.

We recently launched a new Microsoft Azure PoD in Dubai to scale our market reach in the Middle East and partner with regional customers as they grow their data management environment.

We also expanded our departmental low-friction service offerings for our new Cloud Data Integration Free and PayGo that I talked about with support for Amazon Redshift, Microsoft Synapse Analytic, Google BigQuery, Snowflake and Databricks. And Informatica was a launch partner for Snowflake's Telecom Data Cloud.

Our GSI partners are creating solutions with the help of Informatica practitioners to accelerate customers' data-driven strategies on IDMC. Current solutions that are being marketed jointly include MDM-as-a-Service with Deloitte, Medicare, Medicaid with KPMG and Rapid Reference Data with Cognizant.

Many other solutions are in process of being created with GSIs and larger boutique services partners. Our migration factory program has expanded to more than 45 partners. Almost half are already delivering projects and have been awarded work.

To date, we have migrated 4% of our legacy base over to IDMC, up from 3.6% last quarter at a 2.1 conversion ratio. In summary, we are pleased with our execution in Q1. We are focused on maintaining our business for a balanced profitable growth and delivering on a cloud-only consumption-driven strategy in our business priorities.

We crossed a very important milestone in the first quarter, which is $1 billion in subscription ARR. And as we walk into the second quarter, we expect to cross $0.5 billion in cloud subscription ARR.

These significant milestones validate that the product innovation and the go-to-market investments that we have made over the years resonate with enterprises across the globe while we continue to deliver continuous profitability and cash flow growth.

As I wrap up, I'd like to thank all of my Informatica colleagues across the globe for their hard work and continuous commitment. I would also like to thank our partners, customers and shareholders for supporting Informatica. We look forward to hosting many of you next week at Informatica World, our user conference in Las Vegas.

With that, let me turn the call over to Mike. Mike, take it away..

we expect GAAP total revenues to be $355 million to $365 million, representing approximately a 3% year-over-year decrease. We expect subscription ARR to be in the range of $1.02 billion to $1.03 billion, representing approximately 14% year-over-year growth.

We expect cloud subscription ARR to be in the range of $501 million to $507 million, representing approximately 35% year-over-year growth. And we expect non-GAAP operating income to be in the range of $67 million to $77 million, representing approximately a 3% year-over-year increase.

Now for modeling purposes, I'd like to provide some additional information. First, we expect adjusted unlevered free cash flow after-tax to be in the range of $60 million to $80 million. And as a reminder, our full year unlevered free cash flow guidance remains unchanged at $340 million to $360 million.

Second, let me provide some color on our interest expense expectations. For the second quarter, we estimate cash paid for interest will be approximately $37 million. And for the full year, we estimate cash paid for interest will be approximately $145 million.

This is based upon forecast average one-month LIBOR of approximately 5% for the second quarter, plus the 2.75% interest rate spread on our outstanding term loan. Beginning in July, we'll transition our term loan debt to SOFR. And our interest rate spread on one-month SOFR will be approximately 2.86%.

Our expected full year interest rate based on a blend of one-month LIBOR and SOFR is 4.9%. And inclusive of the credit spread, we expect an interest rate of approximately 7.8% for the full year. Keep in mind, all of our debt bears interest at a variable rate.

And therefore, our forecast interest costs are based on forward curve estimates of LIBOR and SOFR, which may materially change due to future market conditions. Third, let me discuss our expectations for income taxes. Our Q1 non-GAAP tax rate was 23%, and we expect that rate to continue for the full year 2023.

We estimate full year 2023 cash taxes to be approximately $100 million. On a GAAP basis, we expect continued volatility of our income tax provision and rate. Lastly, our share count assumptions.

For the second quarter of 2023, we expect basic weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 287 million shares and diluted weighted average shares to be approximately 291 million shares.

For the full year 2023, we expect basic weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 288 million shares and diluted weighted average shares to be approximately 293 million shares. Before starting the Q&A session, I'd like to share some closing thoughts.

Over the past four months, I've had the chance to be on the road to meet some of our analysts and investors. And I appreciate the depth in which you follow the company and the understanding you have of the underlying fundamentals of our business.

I've received a lot of constructive feedback in these meetings on the positioning and instrumentation of our business, and many of you have expressed your desire to learn even more about our strategy and longer-term business trajectory.

To that end, I am pleased to announce that we plan to host an Investor Day on Tuesday, September 5, in San Francisco. And we hope many of you are able to join us in person. Please stay tuned for more details as they become available. Operator, you can now open the line for questions..

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Andrew Nowinski with Wells Fargo. You may proceed..

Okay, thank you. Congrats on a nice quarter. Good start to the fiscal year. I want to ask a question first, I guess, on the sales cycle elongation.

I know you said you've been seeing this historically and expect to continue going forward, but other vendors have talked about seeing more of maybe a spike in that or a change in that dynamic in the last few weeks of the quarter. Just wondering if you saw anything similar..

Yeah. I think -- Andrew, good to talk to you. No change to what we said as we walked into the year. What we saw in Q4 is what we walked into the year, which is what we baked into our guidance for this year, and we saw Q1 execute against that. We didn't see anything get better or getting worse, basically exactly where it was.

So nothing new to report over there than what we saw walking into the year and what we have shared with you as we put the guide for the year..

Okay. Very good. And then I just had a question on the large customer momentum you guys talked about. I mean it looks like you only added about 5 customers that spent over $100,000 in ARR and two that crossed that $1 million threshold this quarter, which looks like one of the lower sequential changes that we've seen over the last few years.

So is there more to the momentum that you're talking about maybe that we're not seeing in those numbers?.

I think the way to think about that, Andrew, is that internally, Q4 to Q1 is a very fundamental different way to look at it. Q4 is the biggest quarter. Q4 is the smallest quarter. So we never look at Q4 to Q1 as anything operationally that we track to us, we look year-over-year. We have classic linearity for the year, and we track like that.

Q-to-Q from Q4 to Q1 is something that is kind of comparing apples to oranges given our biggest quarter and our smallest quarter..

Okay, fair enough. Thank you. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC. Your line is now open. .

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. And I echo the success on cloud, it's great to see. I guess a question -- one of the topics that we hear a lot from is cloud cost optimization.

And I'm curious, how do your customers think about that? And how does Informatica really play into perhaps that trend?.

Yeah. But -- I think it's a tale of two cities. What you hear on cloud optimization from the large hyperscalers, effectively, customers obviously have massive spend that are spanning multiyear.

It is very different to what they do with us because those end up being across the stack, Matt, as you know, like infrastructure, platform, applications, things of that nature. I'll say two things.

One, we've been net beneficiaries in some ways because customers can draw down the hyperscaler commits to marketplace by buying Informatica products and -- which is all of our products available on their marketplace.

And not just availability on the marketplace, but our deep integrations with the hyperscaler product allows customers to actually not just draw down, but use it very effectively. So that's kind of been helping us. And we've talked about how that is in an area of growth for us. Secondly, we talked about execution of the quarter.

Raw demand and I think I'm going to go back to what even Andrew asked. When we think of raw conversations that they're having with customers, and I've been traveling quite a bit, those are happening at pretty good scale. In fact, we're headed into Informatica World next week. It's actually two-three weeks earlier this year.

And the attendance over there is at 2019 levels. And so effectively, you're still seeing -- of course, we maintained the prudence on conversion into deals, all the stuff that I talked about. But in terms of the raw interest and the conversations, those are pretty healthy..

I'd add one more thing, Matt. It's Mike. Keep in mind that our consumption model is somewhat different than what you would see from the hyperscalers themselves or even someone like a Snowflake.

When a customer buys our cloud platform product, they buy it most of the time with IPUs, sometimes with MDM record, but it's not a direct drive month-to-month consumption model where our revenue or the amount they pay us goes up and down based upon their usage.

They pay us an annual fee for a number of IPUs that they can then deploy across any of the capabilities of the platform. And at renewal time, they decide whether to buy more. And in the meantime, if they use more than their allocation, they can pay us overages also.

So we're not really subject in this sort of short-wave volatility in month-to-month consumption spend for cloud providers. So what we do is we watch the IPU usage and consumption very closely to make sure that we sold the right amount to our customers, and they're still using them. And those trends continue to be very favorable..

Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe just a quick one on it. You guys have been talking about AI and CLAIRE for a long time now.

Is there a degenerative AI angle to Informatica's kind of AI strategy going forward as well?.

Matt, we are about a couple of days away from Informatica World. I think you may be coming there, so stay tuned..

Love it. Thank you. .

Thank you, Hedberg. Our next question comes from the line of Pinjalim Bora with JPMorgan. Your line is now open. .

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. And congrats on the quarter. I want to go back to the bookings trends. Seems like you're seeing consistent bookings trends in Q1.

Help us understand how does the environment look to you through May now? Have you seen any change after kind of the financial sector turmoil at all?.

Pinjalim, no change. For us, as I said before, I'll repeat that, what we saw as we ended last year and what we baked into giving the guidance for this year is what we saw in Q1 is as what we see now. We haven't seen anything get worse or better.

So basically, we're just being consistently seeing what we had -- what we thought would be the case for the year. And right now, so far, it has been there. So in April, no change to what we saw in last quarter..

Okay. Understood. And on IPUs, I believe Q1 marked a big cohort of renewal for IPU-based customers. Maybe help us understand how did you end up executing that, how well the renewal rates? And more specifically, we have been hearing that IPU has dramatically reduced the friction of using the platform.

Is there a difference in characteristics with respect to expansion rates on IPU-based customers alone versus overall cloud retention rate?.

I'll give you the philosophical in IPU, and then Mike will detail into a lot of other operational stuff. It does. I think I've always said that. In fact, it's the biggest, most dramatic simplification of our technology platform. I mean you see the breadth of our IDMC platform.

And pretty much customers, they buy -- even if they buy one IPU, they actually have entitlement to every service, and there are so many services in -- on the IDMC platform that you can see, Pinjalim. So yes, it dramatically eases that.

And to be candid, it just plays out into renewal also because -- you know very well, customers can go from use case A to use case B to use case C. And sometimes customers in the middle of the quarter like you know what I was -- I thought six months ago, use case A was important along the way. But I want to do use case B.

They don't have to come back and kind of make a procurement cycle. They can immediately move into use case B with all those capabilities. So dramatically simplifies, reduces the friction, and we see that in the ease of usage for IPU customers. I'll hand it over to Mike to give you some more details on the IPU consumption..

Pinjalim, you're right, this was the first meaningful cohort of IPU renewals that we had up. That being said, I wouldn't call it a big cohort, still a relatively small number compared to the available to renew in our cloud ARR overall for the quarter, but it was meaningful.

And the good news is that it renewed almost at exactly the same rates that we saw the rest of our cloud subscription ARR renew. So, so far, so good, and we feel real good about the result. And the size of that IPU renewal cohort will continue to grow gradually as the year goes on..

Got it. Thank you. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Howard Ma with Guggenheim Securities. You may proceed..

Okay, great. Thanks for taking my question. I have one for Mike and then for one for Amit as well. First for Mike. So it's encouraging to see the outperformance in both total and subscription ARR.

But if you look at the mix, so fully managed ARR outperform -- or I'm sorry, fully managed cloud ARR outperformed, right? But self-managed underperformed your -- the implied guidance.

I'm just wondering, is that due to Informatica's better-than-expected success and encouraging more self-managed customers to expand on cloud? Or is it a function of perhaps less demand? And the follow-on to that is, so what gives you the confidence in the mix for annual guide? If you can go one layer deeper into the inputs that go into forecasting that mix that would be really helpful.

Thank you. .

Yeah. Sure, Howard. It wasn't that the self-managed customers were shifting over to cloud. As we mentioned, 90% of the new bookings for cloud in the first quarter were new workloads. It wasn't moving from maintenance ARR, and it wasn't moving from self-managed ARR.

It was new sales to either new or existing customers that wanted to do new stuff with the IDMC platform.

What we saw and the reason why cloud outperformed our expectations versus guidance and self-managed underperformed our expectations versus guidance was that our cloud-only sales motion, where in our developed countries, we sell essentially only cloud, worked even better than we expected.

And to some extent, we -- where we exceeded in cloud, we underperformed a little bit in self-managed, but the total subscription, as you can see, was better. So there was more in the cloud bucket than the self-managed bucket than we expected, but there was more in the overall better than expected we, too.

So it wasn't movement from left pocket to right pocket. It was just more new sales into the cloud..

So Mike, I understand that it's not migration. It's just new. It's expansion -- self-managed customers expanding on cloud. But if that continues to happen, could that cause your -- the mix to shift even more to cloud exiting the year? I guess it could..

Sure. The mix is in -- yeah. We expect the mix to continue to increase more to the cloud as the year goes on. I think we cited the statistic. But if you look at the net new ARR that you can calculate in Q1, 81% of it was cloud. If we look at our pipeline, close to 90% of it is cloud. So that's what we're working on.

That's what we're selling, and we expect the mix to trend towards that..

And Howard to add to what just Mike said, it's just Q1. I wouldn't read into one quarter as to what extrapolation for the year is. As we just said, we just -- we feel comfortable for the guidance for the year. So I mean there can be Q-over-Q volatility on a number like that. And I don't think that we feel like that's a reflection of the full year yet..

Okay. Thank you for the additional color. I have one quick follow-up for you. So we've been hearing about our enterprise customers that are under consuming, right? There are a lot of enterprises that are under consuming relative to their hyperscaler commitments.

So do you think -- or perhaps do you have any evidence that maybe Informatica could be benefiting from these excess credits? And if that is the case maybe it's not, but if it is, which product families do you think could stand a benefit the most?.

Yeah. I wouldn't look into product families. I think the simplest way I can describe it to you, obviously, can't speculate as to what the hyperscalers. I think -- because they sell end-to-end stack, and I'm selling infrastructure, server storage, compute. I'm selling platform stack. I'm selling a whole set of compute.

And we're selling a whole set of commits. Where it benefits us is, like I said, right, because all of our products, IDMC is fully available on the marketplace. So customers who had commits can draw down the commits by leveraging Informatica products.

And because we have native integration to them and we have such tight alignment with them, and by the way, they're -- and the partnership are so tight, they also encourage that, of course, customers want that. And of course, we encourage that the -- and the GSIs also lead the way in such transformative projects.

So we benefit from those drawdowns, and that allows customers to draw down the big commit dollars against hyperscalers..

Okay, that's super helpful color. Thank you. I'll leave the floor. .

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Fred Lee with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open. .

Hey. Very nice cloud ARR quarter. There's actually impressive underlying acceleration here on a two-year stack.

This might be splitting hairs a little bit, but considering the various economic mini crises in the quarter, were there any changes in bookings linearity in the quarter in Q1 versus historical trends? And secondly, I was wondering if you could offer some color on how the tone of conversations with customers have changed at all in Q1 versus the prior two quarters.

Thank you. .

Yeah. No change. I would say just -- the answer to both of the questions, no change. We -- in classic linearity that we see, I mean, we are an enterprise software company. So that plastic linearity that we at Informatica have seen, we saw that in Q1.

So there was no difference to what we saw here that we would have seen differently in the Q1 of last year or the year before. And as I said, I think the discussions -- I've said that many times, I'm going to repeat myself. We've been a thoughtful prudent company.

What we saw in Q4 of last year, we baked that into when we walked into this year, when we gave the guide for the year. And I'll reiterate that we continue to see the same thing. And that allows us to -- and any lower performance of Q1 that just allows us to derisk the year, and we -- allows us to hold the guide for the year.

We don't see -- we haven't seen anything worse off or better off given where the world is right now..

Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue. .

Thank you, Mr. Lee. Our next question comes from the line of Fred Havemeyer with Macquarie. Your line is now open..

Hi, thank you very much. I wanted to ask about the competitive landscape and also where some of the upstarts are coming into some of the conversations.

I think I've seen lately, and this might speak more towards where VC funding has been going, but more advertising for API integration companies and data integration companies that can be rather bespoke on subways and everywhere than I think ever seen before.

So I would just like to get an update about what Informatica sees and who potentially you're seeing in your competitive landscape and whether overall win rates may have changed or if there's just anything to call out at all. Thank you. .

Yeah. Great question. I have always said that, and I'll begin by saying I always, have always and always focused on what the customer wants. At the end of the day, if we all focus on what the customer wants, competition can come and go. In my lifetime here, I've seen many competitors come in -- the competitive cycle have changed.

They were different competitors seven years ago. They changed three years ago, and now they're different now. And what has been consistent is that they have come and gone and we just stayed. So I'll repeat that we focus on what customers want.

Having said that, look, I think when you talked about the whole VC thing, look, tremendous growth in this landscape. Hence, you see a lot of investment, right? And of course, it happens, right? Every VC invests in particular, and then you suddenly see tremendous number of small companies mushroom.

And then over a course of time, many of them dissolve, and that is a very natural evolution cycle of start-ups. And you're going to see that in this space also.

What I feel good about is that our focus on mission-critical workloads with a platform that has two things, best-of-breed solutions as well as a single platform with consumption-based pricing where customers can start and scale.

And with the addition of PayGo and Free, actually, we've gone to the departmental level also that we can really, really start very easy. Customers, tremendous amount of choice. And that resonates. And that is something that we're going to keep pushing down on.

And maybe at the other one is that our partnership with the hyperscalers, our enterprise-grade presence across the globe, our adherence to so many different industry verticals that I talked about gives large companies the ability to start very quickly.

So those are all the things that are relevant to us to continue to drive penetration, demand and stickiness of our products..

Thank you very much. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Colville with Scotiabank. You may proceed..

Hey, thank you so much for taking the question. Can I just circle back to the IPU question earlier? Because I think the consumption model is most of us on the sell side and most investors in the buy side knows better the likes of kind of a Snowflake and others.

I think what you are articulating earlier is that the Informatica consumption model is slightly different. You pay a commit, and you have different allowances.

So would you mind just talking through, I guess, the similarities and differences? And then also in terms of accounting and when do you record revenue? Do you record revenue when the consumption happens or when the deal is signed?.

Yeah. Sure, Patrick. Let me give that a shot. A fairly complicated answer or it could be a very complicated answer. I'll try to be brief. So yes, our model is very different in that the customer engages in a multiyear commitment with us. Our average new business term is 2.4 years. More and more of our deals are three-plus, so that's growing.

And they commit to a fixed payment to us annually in advance. So they pay us once a year, three times if it's a three-year contract in advance, and that buys them a certain number of IPUs. Then they can use those IPUs, if it's the traditional IPU. They have those IPUs to use every month.

And if they don't use them that month, then the clock resets, and then they get the same number of IPUs to use the next month. If they go over, there's overages, and they can buy extra from us, and we would recognize extra revenue at that time. Flex IPUs are exactly the same, except the bucket renews once a year.

So if you're a seasonal business like a retailer and you've got a big Black Friday and you need a lot of IPUs around that week, but not so much in January, then the Flex IPU model is for you. But it's still a three-year deal. You pay a fixed price annually advanced. And if you go over, you pay us when that happens.

As far as revenue recognition, it's recognized just like any other SaaS company that would have a fixed contract -- fixed multiyear contract. If it's cloud, SaaS, we recognize it ratably monthly as the term goes on.

And if it's self-managed, which is effectively on-prem, it's recognized as on-prem companies are recognized under ASC 606, which is a majority of the total contract value is recognized upfront, and then the rest of it is amortized over the period. And that's -- we're selling very little of that, so it's becoming less and less relevant.

Does that answer your question?.

That was a terrific answer. And I guess Victoria or [indiscernible] won't be happy with me asking a second question, but I'll sneak one in.

If a customer doesn't consume for whatever reason, what happens then? Do you push the credits out? Or do you recognize the revenue?.

Yeah, we recognized the revenue for sure. If it's a three-year contract for $100 a year, we're going to recognize it's $100 ratably every year for three years, irrespective of what happens, unless we're in breach and the customer sued us, which never happened. The only thing that can happen during that three years is they buy more.

And then at renewal, if they haven't used anywhere near the amount that they thought they were going to, then they might try to negotiate a new deal on a lower usage level. That's why we're watching so carefully the IPU usage of our customers that are coming into the renewal cycle for the first time this year. And so far, so good on that.

But it -- there's really -- there's no downside risk, again, unless we're in breach or whatever..

Great. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Victoria and thank you, Amit. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. .

Hey, guys. This is Jamie on for Brad. I just wanted to quickly follow up on the cloud marketplace question. How much does it account for as a percent of bookings mix? And I guess where do you expect this to go from here? And finally, is there any changes to incentives for the salespeople at the CSPs to sell Informatica's solution set? Thanks. .

We don't disclose the exact amount that goes through the marketplaces versus those that doesn't. For us, we're completely happy with either channel. And in terms of the incentives for us to work together with those cloud service providers, we do have mutual incentives. We incentivize our folks, and they incentivize their folks.

So when we sell together and we both win, not only do we win as companies, but the individual sales reps involved win, too. But the actual specific mix of how much is marketplace versus not, it's not something that we disclose..

Understood. Thank you. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. .

Hey, guys. This is Allan on for Alex. Congrats on the strong results. I got a quick question and a follow-up, if I may. I want to start off with the new disclosure of cloud NRR.

Could you just unpack the key drivers for that to be improving for the second straight quarter here, along with kind of how you'd high level think about that for the year?.

Yeah. So mathematically, it's the same as our existing NRR, which would be the same as what you'd see from most other companies.

It is simply -- the customers that we had a year ago in the same period, how much did that same set of customers, that cloud customers, not including self-managed or management, cloud customers only, how much does that set of cloud customers a year ago, how much are they buying now. And they were buying $100 a year ago. They're now buying $118.

And that is mostly driven by probably -- almost 100% driven by new workloads because, as you know, the IPU model is one where you generally buy more when you buy a new workload. It doesn't go down when you use less because we've got a fixed minimum for every year of the contract.

And folks usually buy enough IPUs so that they think they can stay within their purchase level and not have to buy overages. So that you can think of that 18% as cross-sell, upsell into that cloud cohort that we've had a year ago.

Does that answer the question?.

Yeah. But just if I were to follow up on that, like specifically, what are drivers for the cloud NRR number to be coming up? A quarter ago, it's 117%; Q3, it was 115% here; it's 118%.

Like what are you seeing in the customer base perhaps that is driving that upwards?.

It's the breadth of the platform. Our customer could have begun with an analytics use case, and now they can go add covenants. They can add quality. They can do many more things. They may have begun with a simple ingestion or ETL use case. They can add ETL. They have been doing cloud only. They can add hybrid.

So it's the breadth of the capabilities on the platform that allows the customer to then expand into broader use cases. That's what is basically the tailwind to it..

Okay, understood. I'll leave it there. Thank you. .

Sure. .

Thank you, Mr. Zukin. Our next question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda with Bank of America. You may proceed..

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. Jumping over from a couple of calls here. So apologies if this topic was covered. But I did want to ask you a question on data governance and privacy, and specifically within the generative AI world.

Just thinking about the products that you have available today, what is Informatica's role or maybe even expanding role as all these enterprises all over the world are trying to grasp and tackle the data that feeds these AI models that everyone is talking about today? Thanks, guys. .

Sure, Koji. Good to hear from you. I think we'll cover a lot of that next week at Informatica World, if you're there. Obviously, we'll cover in all detail. I'll give you -- I mean there's so much to cover on that topic. I'll give a simple snippet.

To actually leverage AI -- generative AI, to do something within an enterprise, it actually will become more and more paramount to have good data. I mean if you're going to let something automate and happen on the shop floor of a manufacturing plant, you can't afford to get it wrong. So data becomes very important.

And just think of two very simple things. It's not just bringing data for many places. The quality of data becomes very important, right? Because you're going to make a decision out of a data model, and then you will basically let that run at scale. So data quality becomes incredibly important.

You will -- so that's how we believe that this will all be a tailwind to us.

And I'll say like, what would large language models are on the Internet, ultimately, metadata will become the data language model with an enterprise, and we'll talk a lot about that next week when you come to Informatica World, and we absolutely see that as nothing else but tailwinds..

Got it. Thank you. Looking forward to next weeks guys. Thanks for taking the questions. .

Absolutely. .

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi. You may proceed..

Thanks for taking the question. Just a couple of quick questions on the numbers here.

I guess, first, in terms of the self-managed ARR with the sequential decline, is it right to think about the roughly $5 million of sequential decline is converting to cloud in the quarter? Or did that go somewhere else? And then just curious, as you think about the second quarter, Amit, obviously, you rightly pointed out that Q1 is seasonally the weakest quarter from a bookings perspective, but it looks like you're guiding to add less incremental ARR on cloud in Q2 than Q1.

So just curious if maybe there was some overperformance in Q1 that caused some deals to close earlier, just kind of the factors in the Q2 outlook. Thank you. .

Hey, Tyler, it's Mike. So first, on the self-managed ARR or decline of ARR in Q2. You should think about that as normal churn for a component of the business where we're not focusing our efforts to sell new into that bucket. We're a cloud-only consumption-driven company now.

All of our go-to-market efforts and sales incentives are focused around selling the cloud platform. And we are consciously allowing that self-managed subscription bucket to decline as customers churn as they would have anyway. It's just we're not selling new into that bucket.

There's not a meaningful amount of movement from self-managed ARR to cloud ARR, at least not that we've seen so far. You're right with respect to the cloud net new for next quarter. The NAR [ph], as we call it, for Q2 is modest. But look, we run the business on an annual basis.

Enterprise software is inherently volatile from quarter-to-quarter, long sales cycles, big deal, uncertain deal, close timing. And we're really thinking about the year in the context of the 35% cloud growth guide that we've put out there and that we still feel good about.

Q2 -- Q1 came in really strong, and we're setting Q2 at a level that we think is prudent based upon our expectations for the full year. We're not trying to signal that Q2 -- second half is going to be some sort of economic rebound. It's going to be better or Q2 is going to be materially worse.

It's just that in the context of what we think is going to happen for the full year, it just feels like the prudent thing to guide to. I would point you just to last year. If you look at last year, Q1, Q2 were good quarters, Q3 was a disappointment, and then Q4 came back with gangbusters.

And that's just the kind of volatility that you'll see in enterprise software like us. So don't read too much into the Q2 NAR number..

Okay. Thanks for the color. See you next week. .

Thank you, Mr. Radke. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Hickey with UBS. You may proceed..

Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. I'll be quick on this. Kind of back to maybe Andrew's point at the top of the call on just customer count. I understand Q4 and Q1 might be apples to oranges.

But maybe looking over a longer-term time horizon, I think you guys have now disclosed 5,500-plus customers, and I think that's down from 5,700 during the IPO and 5,600 in the 10-K. So just curious how we should think about that figure. Thanks. .

I think we can follow up with that question. I don't think it declined customers ---.

Yeah. I don't know it either..

That's -- I think 5,700 going down to 5,500, I think we'll just follow up on that one, to be very honest, Jeff, with Victoria, and we can answer because we don't see any decline. And in fact, if anything, we've been very, very transparent with our customer number.

And we will be very transparent that, hey, within that subscription customers and -- so -- and there is -- because the -- overall pool of the customers is that our subscription and maintenance, and then we are very clear about who amongst them are subscription-only customers. So we're happy to answer, we don't see any decline.

So 5,700 so, that's like a surprise to me. We're happy to clarify it, generally..

Got it. Got it. And then maybe one just quick follow-up. Might just be on vertical mix and exposure that you guys have to financial services. Any color there? I know -- and Pinjalim was asking earlier.

You said you saw kind of no change in March and April time frame, but I'm curious if there are any figures you can throw out there that help us think about the exposure. Thanks. .

Sure. Our exposure to financial services is less than 20%, and that includes insurance, not just banks and credit unions and so forth. And we haven't seen any material impact to our business due to the regional banking turmoil..

Got it, thank you. I'll leave the floor. .

Thank you. There are no additional questions waiting at this time. I would like to pass the conference back over to the management team for closing remarks..

Well, thank you. Well, as you can see, we were pretty excited about how Q1 ended, strong results. We are excited about holding our guide for the year. I'm actually looking forward to next week. It's always fun to be with customers, which actually matters the most in a world like this more than competition, more than anything else.

I'm looking forward to seeing many of you at our user conference, and you will see not only a lot of cool demos. I think a lot of questions that get asked. I think my lips are a little bit sealed right now because we can unveil them next week. And of course, as Mike said, we will do our Analyst Day on September 5.

So look forward to hosting you all on that day. So thank you all for joining today and next week and then later in the year on the Analyst -- Investor Day..

That concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your line..