Good day, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Houlihan Lokey's First Quarter Fiscal 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, July 25, 2019.

I would now turn the call over to Christopher Crain, Houlihan Lokey's General Counsel. Please go ahead, sir..

Thank you, Operator, and hello everyone. By now, everyone should have access to our first quarter fiscal 2020 earnings release, which can be found on the Houlihan Lokey website at www.hl.com in the Investor Relations section.

Before we begin our formal remarks we need to remind everyone that the discussion today will include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements, which are usually identified by use of words such as will, expect, anticipate, should or other similar phrases are not guarantees of future performance.

These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect and therefore, you should exercise caution when interpreting and relying on them.

We refer all of you to our recent SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. We encourage investors to review our regulatory filings, including the Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2019, when it is filed with the SEC.

During today's call we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's financial performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP.

A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our earnings release and our investor presentation on the hl.com website. Hosting the call today we have Scott Beiser, Houlihan Lokey's Chief Executive Officer; and Lindsey Alley, Chief Financial Officer of the company.

They will provide some opening remarks, and then we will open the call to questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Scott..

Thank you, Christopher. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter fiscal 2020 earnings call. We are pleased to report record revenues of $250 million and record adjusted earnings per share of $0.67 for the first quarter of fiscal 2020.

All three of our product lines experienced growth from the prior year period and we enter the second half of the calendar year with reasonable momentum in our businesses. During the last 12 months, a number of variables have caused market sentiment to shift from bullish to bearish and back again several times.

This has created a challenging dynamic with the lack of a clear trend has resulted in a less steady M&A environment. In the mid-cap space, there has been a slowdown in global M&A transactions over the last several quarters.

Uncertainty in the direction of interest rates, global trade disputes, stock market volatility, Brexit in a weak European market have all contributed to a weaker global M&A market. Despite all of this, our platform has been resilient and Houlihan Lokey has performed quite well.

Our first quarter revenues and adjusted earnings per share grew 14% and 22%, respectively year-over-year. Revenues in both Corporate Finance and Financial Advisory Services set first quarter records and Financial Restructuring continues to perform quite well in a low default rate environment.

Our Corporate Finance business continues to benefit from several factors. First, we are making good strides in expanding our Capital Markets business. Second, we are now a meaningful and growing M&A advisor in Europe, while many of our competitors struggle in a difficult European market environment.

Third, our recent acquisitions and senior hires have enabled us to expand our geographic and industry expertise, and fourth, our average deal size continues its long-term upward trend.

While we have experienced success in the first half of this calendar year, the external factors previously mentioned may well produce volatile quarterly results in the future. Overall, new business activity continues to grow at a moderate pace.

But we are keeping a watchful eye on the soft M&A environment in Europe and any trends that may develop in the U.S. that could impact our business. Our Financial Advisory business continues to focus on rounding out its various service offerings and expanding its dedicated industry expertise.

This is a multi-year strategy and we continue to make progress as shown in our financial results for this product line. Overall, new business activity has been solid, but our FAS business has also been impacted both positively and negatively by the ongoing uncertain market environment.

Financial Restructuring continues to perform very well in this low default rate environment. However, restructuring revenues were helped in the first quarter with a few late closings that resulted in a stronger first quarter than usual for this product line.

New business activity remains solid, but there are limited mega fee assignments in today's business climate. During the quarter, we promoted 12 employees to Managing Director and we recruited two MD's in Corporate Finance in our consumer and industrial sectors.

We are in active discussions with several acquisition targets that would add depth to some of our industry sectors and geographic locations. Overall, we had a good first quarter, but we are cognizant of the challenges we all face in this market environment. And we remain extra diligent as we navigate through these challenges.

Having said that, we continue to believe that our balanced business model will allow us to achieve solid financial results even in an uncertain market environment. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Lindsey..

Thank you, Scott. Revenues in Corporate Finance were $134 million for the quarter, up about 1% when compared to the same quarter last year. We closed 61 transactions in the quarter compared to 69 in the same period last year, as our average transaction fee on closed deals was higher this quarter versus last year.

Financial Restructuring revenues were $79 million for the quarter, a 57% increase from the same quarter last year. We closed 25 transactions this quarter compared to 13 in the same period last year and our average transaction fee on closed deals was lower compared with the same quarter last year.

Although our Financial Restructuring business often has large fee events. This quarter's strong performance was due to increased activity across a number of smaller fee transactions. This highlights restructurings ability to drive revenues from a variety of sources, even in a low default rate environment.

In Financial Advisory Services, revenues were $37 million for the quarter, a 2% increase from the same quarter last year. We worked on 509 fee events in the quarter compared to 504 in the same period last year. New business activity in FAS remain steady and we have continued to see improvements in managing director productivity in our FAS business.

Over the last couple of years FAS has increased its focus on productivity, resulting in solid revenue growth over a lower MD headcount. Turning to expenses. Our adjusted compensation expenses were $153 million for the first quarter versus $133 million for the same period last year.

Continuing this quarter, we adjusted for pre-IPO grants and for deferred consideration, primarily related to acquisition agreements associated with our two fiscal 2019 acquisitions. The adjusted compensation ratio was 61% for the quarter within our targeted range of between 60.5% and 61.5%.

Our adjusted non-compensation expenses in the first quarter were $37 million, relatively flat when compared with the first quarter last year. In the last couple of fiscal years, we have experienced lower non-compensation expenses in the first quarter relative to the remaining quarter in the year.

This is primarily a result of the timing of certain events, that tend to result in higher non-comp expenses in subsequent quarters and as a result, we expect to experience a similar dynamic this year as well. As a reminder, our long-term target for the adjusted non-compensation expense ratio is between 14% and 15%.

This quarter, we adjusted out of our non-compensation expenses approximately $400,000 in primarily legal and accounting costs associated with the registered block trade, which we completed in May 2019 and $1.6 million of acquisition related amortization.

We will continue to adjust for this and other similar types of expenses in the quarters in which they occur. Our adjusted other income and expense line item, resulted in a gain for the quarter of approximately $1.5 million versus a gain during the same period last year of $0.9 million.

Most of our income in this line item for the quarter was a result of interest income on our cash balances throughout the quarter.

These cash balances and the interest income we receive in those cash balances tend to remain at their highest levels during the first half of our first quarter, just prior to paying out bonuses to our financial staff in May.

Also because of the fact that we acquired the remaining equity that we didn't already own in our Italian joint venture, we will no longer be reporting gains and losses in Italy in this line item using the equity method. Our Italian entity is now a fully consolidated subsidiary of Houlihan Lokey. Our GAAP effective tax rate for the quarter was 13.5%.

After adjusting for non-recurring items, our adjusted effective tax rate was 28.8% toward the high end of our targeted range of between 27% and 29%. Last quarter, I mentioned that a portion of the deferred stock that we issue as compensation to employees would best in May, during the first quarter of the fiscal year.

This testing had a significant effect on our GAAP effective tax rate this quarter, as expected, which we adjusted for, in order to give a more normalized effective tax rate for the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet and uses of cash. As of the quarter-end, we had $245 million of unrestricted cash and equivalents and marketable securities.

As a reminder, in the first quarter, we paid bulk of our fiscal 2019 bonuses to our banking staff and paid out our quarterly dividend. In addition, as a result of ASC 842 beginning in the first quarter of fiscal 2020, we are now required to capitalize all operating leases on the balance sheet.

We have two new balance sheet line items, operating right of use assets and operating lease liabilities. These line items represent the accumulative future liability of all of our operating leases, where historically they were reported in the footnotes to the financial statements. This change in accounting standard has no material impact on our P&L.

Lastly, as I have mentioned in the past, we are building out a new office in London that will house all of our London-based bankers and we expect to move into that new location in our second quarter. As a result of the move and consolidation of office space, we expect there to be a significant accounting charge in our second quarter.

We plan to adjust this charge out of our GAAP results in order to provide a more normalized non-compensation expense. And with that operator, we can open the line for questions..

[Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Ken Worthington with JPMorgan..

Hi, Scott and Lindsey, this is Bill Cuddy for Ken. Thank you for taking our questions. Scott, you touched on this in your prepared remarks, we've been in a volatile market, equity market in the first half of the year where the government shutdown in calendar 1Q.

Could we expect a greater pickup in activity in the second half of this calendar year for your corporate advisory business?.

Historically, we have done better in our second half than first half. There is nothing right now, that gets us to view that the markets are materially different where we will see something different in terms of second half versus first half compared to what we've seen in the past.

And once again, I'm talking about - because you've asked the question on the calendar side.

But as mostly I think we have continually seen a couple of months of good activity and then a couple of months they slow down, a couple of months it gets a little better and to us what we've seen is a constant movement in the trend where it's been much more difficult, I think to be able to anybody to forecast with some level of certainty is there a particular trend being more bullish or bearish, it's worked out well for our business.

But that's kind of the market observations that we have..

And then given the noise on the interest rate outlook and how things have been moving there.

Does the falling rate environment impact the middle-market M&A business? And how should we think about of falling rate environment impacting your restructuring business?.

So the falling interest rate environment, I would say it the size levels that we've seen in the interest rate are not as impactful as really the availability of capital.

And right now the availability of capital for M&A transactions, we still feel for the mid-cap space is good and really have not seen a change over the last probably quarter two in terms of availability of capital and yes, at times has gotten a little more expensive, a little less expensive.

And on the restructuring side, yes, every time that rates continue to take downward, it does allow companies with some level of financial distress to at least be able to kick the can down a little further.

And so that's probably slightly negative the business, but mostly what's driving the Financial Restructuring business at the moment isn't necessarily interest rates.

It's a variety of issues that we've described in the past from a technology disruptors to just questionable management, accounting issues, trade issues, there is a lot of other things that are impacting our ability to get the restructuring business, probably more so than interest rates right now..

Is there anything in particular like among that group, like technology, accounting trade, that's driving it currently?.

It's really very broad based, it's not centered on a particular industry or geography, or market fact pattern at this point.

It's really just like I said, it's a broad-based opportunity set that we see, still less than what we've experienced in previous recessions, but we feel, we're actually doing pretty good in this low rate - low default rate environment..

Our next question will come from Mike Needham with Bank of America..

So I just really want to ask about your Europe build out, you touched on a little bit in your prepared remarks. It seems like the acquisitions are doing quite well. I would guess that there are a number of boutiques, they're still they would like to be part of a bigger U.S.

institution, are there interesting businesses for sale? And is that still the best way for you to grow in Europe?.

First, we have come a long way in terms of our total bank or head count today from where we were a couple of years ago. A lot from acquisitions, a lot from hiring, some transferring from different locations, internal promotions, et cetera. We still think there is a good amount of growth profile that we can achieve in Europe in the foreseeable future.

But specific to your question regarding acquisitions, I think we are looking at acquisitions that both have some additive elements in geography, as well as sub-industries, sometimes slightly new products, and I think we've always been open-minded, whether it's in Europe or other places we could grow through both internal promotions, through external hirings or from acquisitions..

Yes, we don't - Mike, we don't have a preference one over the other, it's really opportunistic. And I think if you look at a lot of our hirings in the last couple of years, we've been very aggressive in Europe.

Acquisitions tend to be a bit more splash, because they tend to bring on more employees, but we have a three prolong strategy in terms of growth over there as Scott mentioned..

And just in terms of brand recognition both for your client base there as well as the kind of labor market, I think you have made pretty big strides, particularly in the labor market there.

Can you just kind of like talk about that? And how receptive people are when if you call on them with kind of Houlihan name?.

I think they are very receptive, but the recognition of what we've accomplished in probably the last three years, a reality is much ahead of probably what the marketplace understands and it just takes time for people to better understand what we have to see us involved in more transactions, to get more deal, so announced, et cetera.

And I think it's always the fact that you tend to grow first, and the brand recognition follows with some lag to it..

Your next question will come from Michael Brown with KBW..

First, I just wanted to kind of talk about the quarter. I'm just interested to hear about the pace of completion activity in the quarter.

Normally I wouldn't be all that focus on a month-to-month trends, but just kind of interested to hear how completion activity trended throughout the quarter, did it really accelerate into quarter end kind of more than usual?.

So I break it in two pieces. In Corporate Finance, I would say we had a weaker first six weeks of the quarter and then we had a stronger final six weeks of the quarter, mesh together probably a very normal looking quarter.

But it goes to my earlier comment that we are continually seeing changes in the trends in a much shorter duration than we normally have. In restructuring, we have typically had the number of closings in our first fiscal quarter is just the lowest generally of the four quarters.

And this particular quarter, as noted by the number of transactions we closed this quarter were just a little larger than we've typically seen in the first quarter..

I would, Michael, I would not read into the slight decline in transactions in Corporate Finance, or the significant increase in transactions in restructuring for the quarter. I think that's just timing and it's one quarters worth of data, I don't think either of those are a trend that would substantiate a year..

I appreciate the color there. And just a follow-up on the hiring front, I mean, I appreciate the acquisitions can certainly skew things. But how should we think about kind of your targeted net MD growth per year.

I guess in total and then specifically for Corporate Finance?.

We don't have a set target that we're trying to achieve.

I think if you look through all of the announcements and what we've reported, we tend to probably hire about 12 MD's per year, one a month, but like I said, it's not a target that's just kind of what it's been, sometimes we will tend to do more acquisitions that may be slows down what we do on the hiring and sometimes it's the other way around..

[Operator Instructions] And next we'll go to Richard Ramsden with Goldman Sachs..

This is James Yaro filling in for Richard. Could you talk about the progress you've seen in the HL Finance business, especially in light of changing global interest rate expectations.

Do you expect that, that could accelerate the growth in this business or is it more of a non-event?.

So remember we started it less than a year ago. So from a statistical improvement, we've got very large increases just because we started some new. We are seeing more and more opportunities all the time. We've started to close transactions.

We haven't seen different activity in the marketplace that is either necessarily helping or hurting us, I think it's more once again kind of this branding issue. We need to make sure that everybody understands what we're doing in that business, what our capabilities are.

And we would expect over the long term, it will continue to grow and eventually come a more meaningful part of our capital markets business..

And then in light of continued retrenching of certain bulge brackets notably in Europe.

Are you seeing any hiring or market share gain opportunities especially in the context of your recent acquisitions in Europe?.

Yes, I mean, I think that in general, the answer is no, there is enough dislocation in Europe that I think when it all shakes out, we will probably see some opportunities. But we are not necessarily seeing anything from - specifically from the retrenchment of some of the bigger banks in Europe.

I think our expectations are that we will, but it's probably a little early still..

And next we'll go to Devin Ryan with JMP Securities..

So I want just to come back to some of the outlook commentary and I apologize, I just like to parse through to a little bit more. And just to get a sense of the message here. So I'm not confused.

So the business is obviously operating at a high level, it sounds like you're still seeing some growth in new engagements, but then on the other hand, you mentioned some of the challenges.

So as I understand, is the right interpretation that maybe 2020 doesn't see the same growth, as some of the outside levels of the past few years? Or is it just that the range of potential outcomes could be wider given some of that volatility such as clouding the outlook more.

I guess, I'm just trying to understand the comment given the trailing revenues are at a record level and it sounds like business is still building?.

Yes, I think what we're trying to describe, if you went back one or two or three years ago, we would probably have a belief that say - it would say, hey, for the rolling forward 12 months, we feel like we're in a positive business environment or slowing business environment or whatever the case might be, and what's happening now is, we feel like it's almost every one to three months whatever our view of the marketplace, it tends to change because of these whip sign fact patterns with trade issues with where interest rates are going.

Will the stock market go higher and going to go low - lower, IPOs in favor or not, just things seem to be condensing in terms of trends. So instead of getting yearly trends we almost feel like we're getting almost monthly trends, that does tend to cause business activity at least in M&A to slow down versus where it was before.

But we're still - as we mentioned, we're still growing and we're still seeing new activity continues to increase..

And then I believe you guys mentioned just an increase in average fees.

And I'm trying to get a sense of whether that just kind of normal course as valuations rise into deals increase or is it following clients further into their life cycle as they grow and do more deals, or is there actually something going on here where - maybe you're going after or have an opportunity to go after some larger deals, just given the broader capability set of the firm and some brand and global reach?.

I really, probably more the last two that you mentioned, I think that we will advise companies through their life cycle is a great example. As we may sell a company to a private equity group. And four years later, they may ask us to sell it on their behalf and that company has grown during the four years. So we've got a little bit of that.

And I think just reputationally as we are - as our reputation increases both in the U.S. and Europe, we're just able to chase larger transactions with higher successes.

Having said all that, I think our average transaction fee and average transaction size has moved up very slowly and methodically over a 10 to 15-year period and is still well in the mid-cap space. We don't have any intention to aim higher for the sake of aiming higher. I think it's happening naturally..

Just last one on the model, so the rent expense charge next quarter, how should we think about the kind of the ongoing rent expense once that charge has run through?.

Yes, I think that borrowing any significant changes, we expect that there will be a slight decline in rent starting in Q3. As a result of the fact that two of the locations that we're currently in, we won't be paying rent on any longer because we will have consolidated them into a facility in London.

So I think you're going to see a little bit of downward pressure on rent certainly for a short period of time, but then you've got general inflation and general increasing cost of vacancy - I'm sorry, of real estate and you're just going to see rent grow at probably a faster pace than any of us want us to.

I think no different than anyone else in this business..

Yes. Devin, what I'd add to it is, I think Lindsey was commenting what we would expect in London, because we are going from multiple locations through effectively one, but in almost every other place if we are resigning the lease today, it is more expensive than it was three, five, 10 years ago just the nature of where real estate leases are.

And then until we get some downturn in the economy or real estate prices we're seeing the same thing that everyone else is which is rental rates are going up and they're going up faster than inflation..

Yes, I just knew that, that kind of incremental rent that would roll off was kind of temporarily elevating that line. So - but that's helpful. Thank you, guys..

Next we'll take a question from Brennan Hawken with UBS..

Just a follow-up on the HL Finance business. Understanding this is a nascent business for you, but it seems as though it's our sense that year-to-date some of the financing markets for deals should become a bit tighter and credit availability a bit trickier.

And I know you referenced that it hasn't had a big impact on the mid-market - the mid-cap deal market.

But in some of the areas in which you play where you've seen some of these financing markets tighten up a bit; one, do you - is HL Finance involved in those markets? And number two, have you seen any changes or shifts in demand in the customer base yet Or is it just too early to know that for sure?.

I break it in two pieces, put HL Finance aside for the moment. The core of what we generally do when we're acting as an agent in financing, the more complex, the situation, the more difficult it is actually find capital, the better it is for our business.

And right now our biggest competitor is really the effectively the executives of a company thinking they can do it themselves and sentiment going out to hiring agent. So we will actually benefit from what we have seen in the last couple of years of trends and where we actually think the market will go. HL Finance be a little different.

If there was a more meaningful change in interest rates, if there was a more meaningful change in availability of capital, it would slow down its prospects. But as I said earlier, we are still so new in it. We could still expect it to grow even if certain market conditions and turn negative. Obviously would depend upon the magnitude of that..

So if we have a more difficult or financing is what's available. It's not that you think it would drives demand for - or recognition that the value of an agent is more clear, but rather just pulled back at the activity levels. So enough broadly that it would probably hurt the outlook, OK.

That Interpret, that fair?.

Yes, I think we would say and what you've described overall total amount of debt to be placed on behalf of companies would shrink, but the number of participants who were trying to do it on their own would also statistically shrink and they will tend to look more for advisors to help them because it's gotten more difficult.

And everybody therefore participating in that marketplace is actually probably comes out of that business cycle in better shape, just because advisors become more important versus I'll call it is going from a self-serve concept to really an agency served concept..

[Operator Instructions] Next we'll go to Jeff Harte with Sandler O'Neill..

Most of my questions have been hit, but just a couple of, one, when it comes to Europe, can you kind of remind me or give a refresh as to where your real pockets of strength are over there? And then also kind of where your real opportunities or weaknesses are?.

We started probably 20 years ago, predominantly known as a Restructuring franchise out there and it's still a very significant and dominant Restructuring franchise. But right now our Corporate Finance footprint is actually bigger than our restructuring footprint in Europe. We're now and roughly half a dozen countries in EU.

So part of it is just to the geographical capabilities we've had, some of the recent acquisitions. We're focused on particular industries in the consumer and food space as well as data analytics.

We also brought on the team to start a Private Funds group, we have continued if you've looked at probably many of these Senior MD hires that we've had in the last year have been an industry experts that we already had in United States, but now we're also putting them in predominantly London, but also some other locations.

And really the expectation is that we can continue to build out some of the industry expertise that we've had in the U.S., we can bring it over to Europe and it just allows us to be a larger and better, not only performing services within Europe, but also to do cross-border transactions as well..

Understanding that U.S. is bigger than Europe for you guys.

Can you give any kind of current commentary well see environments like over there and I kind of come from the perspective of the public data, we can look at suggests activity levels in Europe kind of stepped up nicely over say the last four weeks or are you guys seeing and feeling that?.

I think you're probably coming on more the mega-size deals. And I know, I think even the Lazard Head mentioned it earlier in their call today. I'd still say, clearly, the European marketplace that we operate in is weaker than the United States, but our market share is much larger than United States.

And once again, because we're starting at a lower base from Europe. So near term, we still think it's what we can tactically do, it's going to be more important than the macro fact patterns in Europe.

But otherwise, if some people are seeing some improvement in Europe and some of the larger size deals that's just not really relevant to us at least right now..

And that concludes our question-and-answer session today. And I'd like to turn the call back to Scott Beiser for closing remarks..

I want to thank you all for participating in our first quarter 2020 earnings call, and we look forward to updating everyone on our progress when we discuss our second quarter results for fiscal 2020 in the fall..

That does conclude our conference call for today. Thank you for your participation..