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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q3
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Executives

Paula Conde - IR Officer Martin Migoya - CEO Juan Urthiague - CFO Alejandro Scannapieco - EVP and General Manager of U.S. East Region.

Analysts

Tien-Tsin Huang - J.P. Morgan Margaret Nolan - William Blair Avishai Kantor - Cowen Joseph Foresi - Cantor Fitzgerald.

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the Globant Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Paula Conde, Investor Relations Officer. Please go ahead..

Paula Conde

Thanks, operator, and thank you all for joining us today on our call to review our 2018 third quarter financial results. By now, you should have received a copy of the earnings release. If you have not, a copy is available on our website, investors.globant.com.

Our speakers today are Martin Migoya, Chief Executive Officer; Juan Urthiague, Chief Financial Officer; and Alejandro Scannapieco, Globant’s EVP and General Manager of U.S. East Region. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments on our call today may be deemed forward-looking statements.

This includes our business and financial outlook and the answers to some of your questions. Such statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties as described in the Company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC. Please note that we follow IFRS accounting rules in our financial statements.

During our call today, we will report non-IFRS or adjusted measures, which is how we track performance internally and the easiest way to compare Globant to our peers in the industry.

You will find a reconciliation of IFRS and non-IFRS measures at the end of the press release we published on our Investor Relations website announcing this quarter results. I'd like now to turn the call over to Martin Migoya, our CEO..

Martin Migoya Co-founder, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer & President

Thank you, Paula. Hi, everybody, and thanks for joining us today. I'm pleased to be here to share with you some updates on our business and financial performance of the three months ended September 30, 2018. At the end of the call, Juan will share with you our outlook for Q4 2018. Later on, we'll open up to questions with Alejandro as well.

Q3 2018 was another record quarter for Globant, closing at $134.6 million in revenue and a robust 22.7% year-over-year growth. This solid growth was mainly driven by our top 10 accounts. They delivered revenue growth of 37.8% over the third quarter of 2017 and 7.9% sequentially.

As in previous periods, we continued to enlarge our relationship with our key customers. We now have 90 accounts over $1 million in annual revenues compared to 78 one year ago. Additionally, during the last 12 months, we have 9 accounts above $10 million in annual revenues compared to 7 accounts for the same period last year.

Finally, I'm proud to announce that we have reached our first $50 million account on the last 12-month basis. Later, during the call, Juan will share more details on our financial performance. Now, let me go over some of the news and highlights of the past quarter.

Q3 has been an amazing period in regards to our performance, deeply correlated to the market opportunity we continue to see. As IDC points out, by 2022, over 60% of the global GDP will be digitalized with growth in every industry driven by digital enhanced offering, operations and relationship.

It will drive almost $7 trillion in IT related spending from 2019 through 2022. On top of that, by 2024, AI-enabled user interfaces and process automation will replace one-third of today’s screen-based up. By 2020, 30% of enterprises will use conversational speech technology for customer engagement.

This means that to succeed in this era, organizations need to completely transform. The transformation should start with their culture and business strategy up to their processes and go-to-market approach.

As a pure play in the digital and cognitive arena, we are consistently showing that we are the right partner to help our customers drive their transformations. We do this with a model that includes innovation, entrepreneurship, digital technologies, AI and agility.

To help our customers stay relevant in front of these digital and cognitive era, during the past months, we conducted several thought leadership initiatives. In September, we organized CONVERGE Colombia focused on augmented intelligence.

Speakers from Google, Amazon, Microsoft and WorkFusion among others shared their innovation and views with our Latin American customer base. In October, we hosted CONVERGE in New York. It was an amazing event to go deeper into the cognitive revolution analyzing the ethics implications of some real case implementations.

The speakers included Scott McNealy, co-Founder of Sun Microsystems; Prakash Kota, CIO of Autodesk; and Jeff Ma from the famous MIT Blackjack Team. We also launched our 2018 artificial intelligence technology business guide, a playbook for organizations considering investing in AI. We surveyed more than 650 U.S.

senior level decision makers about current AI beliefs and goals, and how ready they are to implement the technology. The report debunked common AI myths to offer a modern perspective for how the technology can be effective for businesses. To read it, download it from aireport.globant.com.

Complementing this, we published a new addition of a Sentinel Report. This market trend study analyzes several ground breaking technologies including hyperconnectivity, extended reality and robotics. It describes the implications, potential uses and their future evolution. For more information, visit sentinel.globant.com.

We’re happy to share with you a new partnership that will help us deliver better solutions to our customers. We have started to work with Wayin a real-time digital marketing software company, co-founded by Scott McNealy, former CEO of Sun Microsystems. Globant will help Wayin create enhanced services for large companies.

In turn, Wayin will provide Globant with a robust marketing platform to strengthen digital strategy capabilities and marketing efforts. Together, both organizations will be able to create improved marketing campaigns for customers across digital environment.

All these initiatives are combining our strong positioning as leaders in the digital and cognitive transformation. Let me share with your some of our customer updates per region. In Latin America, we continue to see strong growth in our business coverage, focusing on countries like Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Mexico.

Let me share some of our projects. During Q3, we released the mobile and digital platform from the Youth Olympic Games 2018. We worked on the official platform of the games to include personalized and interactive content, adding indemnification to boost attendance, engagement.

Also for a leading financial organization, Globant has worked on a series of AI solutions to improve internal processes. Lastly, we are helping a leading pharmaceutical company in its digital strategy applied to dermatology.

Our AI and UX studios are working on the development of the diagnostic tool that leverages artificial intelligence and image processing to identify different skin conditions accurately. In Europe, we’re working on a wide variety of strategic programs. We’re helping one of the leading retailers in the world to build a more scalable API platform.

Also for a global leading financial institution, we’re working on the evolution of a mobile product that can scale to millions of consumers while being used across several countries, regulatory environments and client journeys. In the U.S., we have engaged in a major long-term deal with some of our key accounts.

As an example, we have been working for MTA for more than one year in one of its most strategic digital project. We have also started to work with a multinational professional services team in several data initiatives as part of the data transformation agenda. Additionally, we have incorporated some important logos to our portfolio.

Globant is now working with Uber supporting the deployment an integration of Uber Eats. We’re also proud to have added FanDuel to our roster of industrial leading clients. Owned by Paddy Power Betfair FanDuel is the leader among daily fantasy sports providers and an important brand in the recently legalized sports betting market in the U.S.

In regards to services or platforms, I'm proud to share that we have won two W3 Gold Star Awards for our StarMeUp operating system and platform. These recognitions were given in the mobile apps/sites for the Business and Mobile Apps/Sites for Productivity categories.

The world recognized StarMeUp for empowering employees to engage in meaningful timely social interactions with each other through a robust application. In summary, it emphasized, how StarMeUp is on the cutting edge of transforming organizational culture. As a reflection of the platform power, we continue to see strong demand for it.

During the past months, our portfolio kept expanding including several new logos such as British American Tobacco, Savvant [ph] and Danone's early life nutrition and advanced medical nutrition department. Today I’m going to introduce to you Globant Minds, a new revolutionary product that comes to complement our Services over Platforms offering.

Globant Minds is a new way to deliver cognitive transformation. It works on top of the massive amount of existing AI algorithms and RPA solutions and complement them providing to our customers a simplified path to leverage AI.

Globant Minds will help us provide value added solutions for our customers by maintaining our platform up to date with every new algorithm and AI system out there. We're really excited about the potential of this platform, and it will help deliver cognitive solutions in a rapid and efficient manner.

To conclude, the demand environment continues to be healthy and our pipeline is strong. Companies all over the world need to change and rethink their strategies, their businesses and their go to market approach at a faster pace.

As a pure play in the digital and cognitive fields, we’re in the best position to help them go through these processes in a successful manner. We remain optimistic about our ability to deliver sustainable growth in the future.

Our unique model and organizational fitness life cycle together with our studios, Service over Platforms and 50-Square program deeply differentiates us and makes us an ideal partner.

We that, I'll turn the call over to Juan Urthiague, our CFO for the further detail of financial review on the third quarter 2018 and also to provide guidance for Q4 2018. Juan, please? Thank you very much..

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Thanks, Martin, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me start by summarizing the results of our third quarter and nine months ended September 30, 2018. I will then discuss our guidance for the fourth quarter of 2018. I am very pleased with our third quarter financial performance.

During this quarter, we delivered strong revenue growth, improved gross and operating margins, and generated significant cash. Our revenues came in at the new record level of $134.6 million, 22.7% over third quarter of last year, and 5.2% over Q2 2018. During Q3, 2018, Disney was once again our largest customer.

Our relationship with them continues to be strong and healthy with several opportunities in different business lines. Revenues for top 10 customers increased 37.8% over third quarter of 2017 and 7.9% sequentially. We are excited with the fact that high potential accounts are scaling up and becoming large and meaningful within our customer portfolio.

During the last 12 months ended September 30, 2018, rendered services to 344 customers, 90 of which accounted for more than $1 million in annual revenue compared to 78 customers one year ago. During the last 12 months, we also had nine accounts over $10 million in annual revenues compared to just seven accounts for the same period last year.

And five accounts above $20 million in annual revenues compared to 3 for the same period last year. We’ll continue to grow the size of our accounts aligned with our 50-Squared strategy. In terms of industry diversification, we remain pretty much balanced among the different verticals that we serve.

Our top three verticals for this quarter were media and entertainment with 26.2% of revenues; banks, financial services and insurance with 22.3% of revenues; and travel and hospitality with 17% of revenues.

Our exposure to consumer retail and manufacturing space keeps growing from 8.4% of revenues in the third quarter of 2017 to 11.4% of total revenues in the third quarter of 2018. This signals that digitalization is expanded into expected industries such as manufacturing, which opens new opportunities to companies like us.

Our customer concentration numbers for Q3 2018 showed a slight increase, although remain healthy and consistent with past quarters. With our top 1, top 5 and top 10 accounts representing 11.9%, 33.4% and 45.8% of revenues compared to 10.3%, 26.8% and 40.7% of revenues, respectively for the third quarter of 2017.

During the third quarter of 2018, average quarterly revenue through our top five customers increased 53.2% to $9 million. And average revenue per top 10 customer increased 37.8% to $6.2 million compared to $5.9 million and $4.5 million respectively for the third quarter of 2017.

As has been the case in previous quarters, the vast majority of our revenue was generated from customers that were already working with us in the prior year, a clear sign of our ability to fund and expand existing relationships. In terms of regions, during the third quarter of 2018, 77.5% of our revenues were in North America, the U.S.

as our top country; 12.5% percent in Latin America and others, Argentina being the top country; and 10% were in Europe, Spain as our top country. Europe has resumed growth after a few quarters of investments in the team. During the third quarter of 2018, 85.1% of our revenues were denominated in U.S.

dollars, protecting our top line against currency fluctuations. Turning now to profitability. Our adjusted gross profit for the period increased to $55.5 million 41.2% adjusted gross margin compared to $42.8 million, 39% adjusted gross margin in the third quarter of 2017, an improvement of 220 basis points.

The increase in adjusted gross margin was primarily driven by a more favorable FX environment in Latin America and an improvement in our utilization rates. In order to cope with the current demand environment, we increased our IT headcount by 510 Globers, reaching a new record level of quarterly net hirings for the company.

We finished the quarter with 7,807 total Globers, 7,285 of which were IT professionals. Attrition for the past 12 months was 19.2% compared to 20.7% in Q2 2018, showing a sequential improvement of 150 basis points. Adjusted SG&A decreased to 19.7%, 80 basis points less than Q3 2018 and 60 basis points less sequentially.

This year-over-year dilution contributes further to our operating leverage expansion. We have been very disciplined in managing our costs as we gain scale while we continued investing for the future, primarily to strategically expand our sales coverage in the U.S., Europe and Latin America.

As a result, our adjusted operating income for the quarter amounted to $23.2 million or 17.3% of revenues, compared to $16.4 million or 15% of revenues for the third quarter of 2017. The improvement in adjusted gross margin combined with a adjusted SG&A dilution were the two main drivers for the significant operating margin expansion in the quarter.

Share-based compensation expense for the third quarter of 2018 amounted to $3.3 million, representing 2.5% of total revenues for the period, compared to $4.5 million or 4.1% of total revenues for the same quarter last year.

This expense is mainly related to the plan of restricted stock units, granted to certain key employees and directors of the Company as part of our long-term retention program. Financial income and expense net amounted to a loss of $1.1 million.

This net result is composed of FX gains and losses, resulting from monetary assets and liabilities in local currencies, results of our hedging strategies, and interest income from our portfolio of investments.

Other income and expenses accounted for a gain of $3.1 million, mainly resulting from the changing fair value of contingent considerations related to our acquisitions. We adjust our non-IFRS net income to exclude this effect. Our IFRS effective tax for the quarter was 26%.

This increase was mainly driven by the large depreciation of the Argentinean peso, which increased the taxable base for the period, resulting in a higher income tax expense.

Adjusted net income for the third quarter of the year totaled $16.8 million, 12.5% adjusted net income margin compared to $13.6 million, 12.4% adjusted net income margin for the third quarter of 2017.

Adjusted diluted EPS for the quarter was $0.46 based on 36.8 million average diluted shares for the quarter compared to $0.37 for the third quarter of 2017. Moving on to the balance sheet. Our cash and investments as of September 30, 2018 were $79.2 million compared to $60.7 million as of December 31, 2017.

Sequentially, we generated significant cash, increasing $22 million our capital investment position as of September 30, 2018, compared to June 30, 2018. During Q3 2018, we repaid $6 million in financial debt. We mainly used cash to pay for M&A transactions, including our earnouts and CapEx in to expand our offices in Latin America, U.S. and Europe.

Our balance sheet remains strong with current assets of $196.5 million, accounting for 48% of the Company's total assets. Total common shares outstanding as of September 30, 2018, were $35.9 million. Last November too, we amended and expanded our previous financing agreement. We entered into a five-year trade agreement with HSBC, Citi and BNP Paribas.

Under the facility, we may now borrow up to $50 million on or prior to May 1, 2019 under our delayed-draw term loan facility and up to $150 million under our revolving credit facility. Interest on the loan shall accrue at LIBOR plus 175 basis points, and there are 20 basis points of commitment fee for unused amounts.

The credit agreement also contains certain customary negative and affirmative covenants. We are proud of closing this financing to support our continued growth under very competitive terms. Now, let's talk about the nine months ended September 30, 2018.

Revenue for the nine months ended September 2018 amounted to $382.2 million, implying a robust 28.2% year-over-year growth. Growth was mainly boosted by top accounts and new customer wins as our portfolio of high potential customers continues to grow at a very healthy pace.

Adjusted gross profit for the nine-month period was $153.6 million, 40.2% adjusted gross margin compared to $115.3 million, 38.7% adjusted gross margin for the same period last year, an increase of 150 basis points.

On a year-to-date basis, we continued to see the positive tailwinds of the FX market corrections in Argentina and some other Latin American countries coupled with an improvement in utilization.

Adjusted SG&A is also showing a healthy dilution of 190 basis points, currently accounting for 20.3% of our revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2018.

Adjusted profits from operations for the nine months period ended September 30, 2018 was $61 million 15.9% adjusted profit from operations margin compared to $38.9 million, 13% adjusted profits from operations margin for the same period last year, representing an improvement of 290 basis points.

Adjusted net income for the nine months period ended September 30, 2018 was $45.2 million, 11.8% adjusted net income margin compared to $31.9 million, 10.7% adjusted net income margin for the same period last year, representing an improvement of 110 basis points.

Adjusted diluted EPS for the nine months period ended September 30, 2018 was $1.24, based on 36.6 million average diluted shares for the period compared to $0.89 for the same period last year, based on 36.1 million average diluted shares for the same period last year. This represents a 39.5% year-over-year growth.

To wrap up, let me provide you with our guidance for Q4 2018. We continue to experience sustained demand for our digital offerings and we also see traction from our strategic accounts.

The continuity of the FX volatility around the globe but primarily in the different regions where we operate combined with still high levels of wage inflation, particularly in Argentina, require us to take a conservative approach in our guidance for EPS.

In terms of gross margin, we expect to close the year in the 39% to 41% range, slightly above our historical target of 38% to 40%.

Diversification of our talent base will continue to be part of our long-term strategy, and that and that should enable us to have a more balanced cost structure while we continue investing in our 50-Squared strategy and training our Globers in cutting-edge technologies.

As for adjusted SG&A, we expect additional sales coverage expansion, though we will continue gaining dilution compared to last year. Finally, we expect effective income tax rates to normalize within the 21% to 23% range for the quarter.

Based on current visibility, we expect Q4 2018 revenues to be between $138 million and $140 million implying at 20.4% year-over-year growth at the midpoint of the range. Adjusted EPS is expected to be between $0.45 and $0.49, assuming 37 million average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter.

Regarding the full year 2018, we're increasing our guidance by $5 million at the midpoint of the range. We now expect revenues of $520 million to $522 million and imply 26% year-over-year of revenue growth at the midpoint of the range.

In terms of adjusted EPS, we're expecting a range of $1.69 to $1.73, assuming 36.8 million average diluted shares outstanding for the full year. Thanks everyone for participating on the call and for your coverage and support. Operator, can you please queue questions? Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Tien-Tsin Huang with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead..

Tien-Tsin Huang

Thank you. Good afternoon, Juan, and welcome back to the call. I wanted to -- I think, what stood out to me was you guys did quite a bit of hiring this quarter, which is a good leading indicator.

I'm curious what -- where are you hiring geographically and what areas, and any potential forward implications to your expense or margin base, given the hiring?.

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Yes. Hello, Tien-Tsin. Thanks for welcome back. Yes. I mean, Q3 was really good in terms of net hiring. We added a little bit more than 500 IT professionals during in this quarter. As it has been the case in the last few quarters, the locations where we're growing the fastest are Colombia, Mexico and India.

We continue to see those locations outpacing the rest of the locations where we are. We think that, at the end of the day that will help us to have a more diversified strategy, which is what we have been implementing since the IPO and will also allow us to tap into talent pools in every region.

Also, we have -- as you know, we have a small operation in Belarus that has also been growing, but the numbers are still small..

Tien-Tsin Huang

Okay. That's good. So, all outside of Argentina. I guess, as my follow-up, I'll ask, the guidance for this year all makes sense, is there -- can you give us a little bit of hint or direction maybe on margins for 2019, given what you've seen -- I know, there's a lot of moving pieces? But, I think it'd be helpful. Thank you..

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Yes. As of now, of course, we are working on next year’s numbers. What we're seeing as of now is that there are, as you said, a lot of moving pieces. We have strong margins right now and we are seeing also good margins for Q4.

For next quarter -- for the next year, the combination between inflation and FX in all different currencies where we are operating creates some noise. But, we continue back to the same target that we set up some years ago. I mean, we’ll target 38% to 40% gross margin. And we’ll also work hard to keep a little bit of dilution on SG&A.

But, as of now, we would still say 38% to 40% in terms of gross margin..

Operator

The next question comes from Margaret Nolan with William Blair. Please go ahead..

Margaret Nolan

Hi, guys.

I'm hoping you can give us your updated thoughts on tax rates, particularly into 2019, especially as we start to think about how tax rates in some of your geographies may change?.

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Yes. Sure, Maggie? How are you doing. So, in terms of tax, typically tax rates are stable in the 21% to 23% range. However, when we have quarters where there is a significant depreciation of a currency and especially in the case of Argentina, that puts some noise in the income tax for the specific quarter.

But assuming that the peso will depreciate but at a stable rate, we continue to think that 21% to 23% is a rational tax rate for next year. .

Margaret Nolan

Okay, understood.

And then, can you give us an understanding of if you are seeing in the early traction from clients with your enhanced marketing offering kind of in the context of that partnership with Wayin?.

Alejandro Scannapieco

Yes. Maggie, this is Ale. We are seeing good traction in several different angles and several different industries. We are -- as you know and this is not only related to our CONVERGE event but we're executing several different initiatives in terms of market lead generation.

I think that combined with the farm-in of the existing relationships is definitely yielding very good results. We see a lot of traction, particularly in the financial services vertical, in the media and entertainment vertical, in the professional and services industry.

I think what's -- something that is happening in the marketplace and that we have seen lately that a combination of acceleration of some digital projects and digital integrations in some of the accounts also combined with some early initiative from the AI and cognitive space, so all of them together, they are definitely gaining traction.

So, we’re at the sweet spot of what is happening in the marketplace in terms of demand and very well positioned with our customers..

Operator

The next question comes from Avishai Kantor with Cowen. Please go ahead..

Avishai Kantor

Good afternoon, everyone. The first question on Disney, which remains very strong growing 42% year-over-year and 30% sequentially.

Can you give us a sense where the growth is coming from, between parks and the media divisions to as much as you can elaborate on that?.

Alejandro Scannapieco

Yes, sure. How are you doing, Avishai? I think the opportunity at Disney remains very large. As you probably are aware, Disney just restructured their divisions between consumer interactive and international, we're very well positing in those places.

Of course, a distraction continues to be the theme park division, the division that’s within this environment. But having said so, we have also made progress on media. We have also made progress with ESPN. I think, the overall relationship with Disney is very healthy. This whole thing about the restructuring is playing as a tailwind for us.

You know that some already existing accounts like [indiscernible] are also part of Century Fox. So, that's also going to a yield another opportunity. And hopefully, Disney this year running rate is going to become the first 50-Squared customer for real for Globant. So, overall, I can say that still the big and core division is the theme park division.

We're also seeing traction from other divisions at Disney. That was our plan since inception..

Avishai Kantor

And my next question on Uber Eats, is that global or that’s just in Latin America?.

Alejandro Scannapieco

For the time being, it's only Latin America I would say..

Avishai Kantor

So could you see -- is there a potential to expand into other regions, you think that’s possible?.

Alejandro Scannapieco

We think so. It’s a first deal and the first project that we're running with Uber. I think it's very experimental in Latin America. So, we're very happy with the nature of the project. So, definitely, this could be the beginning of a very large relationship..

Avishai Kantor

Great. Thank you so much for the details. And I'm very happy to see that you guys all survived the first leg of the super classical..

Alejandro Scannapieco

There you go..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Joseph Foresi with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead..

Joseph Foresi

Hi. I guess, the old team is back together, Juan. I think you've covered most of 2019 or some of the early stuff around 2019.

Maybe you could talk a little bit about the top-line, and even if it's in general terms, what do you think growth is going to be like? And also this quarter, it seemed like Disney was back at it, but maybe the accounts outside of the top accounts didn’t grow at that pace.

Maybe you could break down growth for us from Disney versus not Disney, to the extent you can on the long-term side..

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

So, yes, I mean, as you can see from our hiring, we feel very confident about the opportunity that we are facing. When we look at the revenue growth, in our top accounts, yes, Disney did extremely well, growing 41% year-on-year.

But, when we look at the top 5, we see 53%, we look at the top 10, 37% and even when we look at the rest of the accounts, the growth is still there. So, we are very, very happy with how most of our top accounts are performing.

And also we have some new names that are not yet top-10 account but we are already working with them, some we can name, as Ale just mentioned Uber, some we cannot name as of now. But, we know that those are great opportunities for 2019. We are working on some interesting projects.

But, if we continue to be successful that we’ll bring a lot of revenue going forward. As for the future, we always like to -- we will remain with the same targets that we always have of 20% organic growth. That's what we have been saying since the IPO. I was just looking at the numbers earlier today, our guidance for 2018 is at around 26% for the year.

It's the fifth year in a row above 26% or at least 26%. So, we feel very confident about the opportunity we are seeing, very good traction from -- not only from Disney but also from other very large accounts. And also, we have some new names that also make us feel comfortable about 2019. And that’s pretty much what we’re seeing terms of markets..

Joseph Foresi

Then on the margins, I know you gave some rough ideas around 38% to 40% range.

What is your expectation for FX built into the margin guidance?.

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

So, when we look at Q4, I mentioned during the call, between 39% and 41%. Basically, we expect the peso to remain stable where it is right now, at least until the end of the year. And then for the future, it will be trend on of course on how the economy is doing here. There is a lot of moving pieces in terms of the macro economy at this point.

But, we have seen that according to the government put up in the economic plan, the peso will follow -- or the depreciation of the peso will follow the inflation of the country. At least that is what has been stated by the Minister of Economy. If that's the case, that’s good for us..

Joseph Foresi

Got it. And then just the last one for me on the Argentinean economy. Any concerns around wage inflation in the country? And maybe you could talk about how the economy is affecting day to day business, and maybe labor supply as we head into next year? Thanks. .

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Look, unfortunately inflation in Argentina has been between 20% and 30% for the last three years, and we have been managing the Company pretty successfully in that environment. Of course, it would be better if inflation goes down. And hopefully now, today, the House -- the Senate passed the budget law for next year.

It has a lot of fiscal cuts, a lot of fiscal decisions that should eventually take inflation down. So, we have been dealing with inflation, we’re used to that. We think that we have been able to manage it successfully in the last three years and we expect to continue doing so. So, we believe we understand how to manage it..

Alejandro Scannapieco

If I may add to that, Joe. I think, the government now is trying to articulate through the central bank, a very tight monitory policy, interest rates are up to sky. I’m not saying that that is going to dramatically reduce in inflation in the short run, but it should have impact probably 3 to 4 months from now.

So, our expectation is that at certain point that inflation is going to ease up a little bit, but still we're talking about high levels of inflation as Juan pointed out..

Joseph Foresi

Thank you..

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

But, also, if you read about the Argentina economy, you will see that the government talks about like a moving range for the peso and that range will be increased by 3% per month. So, basically what that means is that the government expects the Argentinean peso to move in line with inflation..

Joseph Foresi

Okay. Thank you. .

Juan Urthiague Chief Financial Officer & Investor Relations Officer

Thank you, Joe..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Martin Migoya for any closing remarks..

Martin Migoya Co-founder, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer & President

Okay. Thank you very much everyone. Looking forward to see you on the next earnings release. Thank you very much for participating and for your continued support on every quarter. Thank you. See you next..

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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