Good morning. My name is Dave, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Energizer's Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Conference Call. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Jon Poldan, Vice President, Treasurer, and Investor Relations. You may begin your conference..

Good morning, and welcome to Energizer's Second Quarter Fiscal 2023 Conference Call. Joining me today are Mark LaVigne, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Drabik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website, energizerholdings.com.

During the call, we will make forward-looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance, among other matters. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements.

We do not undertake to update these forward-looking statements. Other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are included in reports we file with the SEC. We also refer our presentation to non-GAAP financial measures.

A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures is shown in our press release issued earlier today, which is available on our website.

Information concerning our categories and estimated market share discussed on this call relates to the categories where we compete and is based on Energizer's internal data, data from industry analysis and estimates we believe to be reasonable. The battery category information includes both brick-and-mortar and e-commerce retail sales.

Unless otherwise noted, all comments regarding the quarter and year pertain to Energizer's fiscal year and all comparisons to prior year relate to the same period in fiscal 2022. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark..

restore gross margins across our portfolio; reestablish healthy free cash flow generation and pay down debt. We have made significant progress against each of these areas this quarter, while also delivering organic top line growth of 2.6%. Our categories are resilient even in a difficult environment.

Our iconic brands and broad portfolio of products allow us to meet consumers where they are. In batteries, global category value is up 2.7% and volume is down 5.5% on a year-over-year basis. When considering the comparison against last year, keep in mind that the category is cycling through price increases, which occurred last March.

In addition to expected elasticity impacts from pricing, consumers are also shopping cautiously and prioritizing critical categories, such as food, fuel and utilities. Batteries are an essential product for consumers, and as a result, demand for our products has been resilient, and we expect volume trends to improve in the back half of the year.

From a long-term perspective, the category remains meaningfully larger than prior to the pandemic in both volume and value, driven by increased device ownership, usage and pricing. For example, in the US, category value is up over 28% in the 13 weeks ending March, with volumes up almost 9% as compared to pre-pandemic levels.

Our performance within the category remains strong, as consumers are selecting our brands, as we gained 0.7 share points globally behind robust performance in leading markets, such as the US, Germany and Canada. In our Auto Care business, we have started the peak season with solid results.

The drivers of category demand, size and age of the car park, along with miles driven, all have positive trends. These underlying factors, combined with pricing have resulted in category value in nearly 25% larger than pre-pandemic levels. During the quarter, the category grew 4.7%, as price increases more than offset volume declines.

We expect continued value growth for the remainder of the year, led by pricing, offset by volume declines. We performed well in the quarter and delivered Auto Care organic growth of 6%, on top of nearly 20% growth in the year ago quarter.

Our growth was driven by a combination of pricing and expanded distribution across both North America and International. Our teams have done a terrific job in improving the margins in our Auto Care business, while also bringing category-leading innovation to market.

New products launched this year include a ceramics line within our appearance portfolio and an expanded line of refrigerant products. As we look ahead, we will stay close to consumers and how the current environment is impacting their overall shopping behaviors in both of our categories.

With our broad portfolio, expansive distribution and best-in-class shopper-based solutions, we are positioned to connect with consumers and influence the choices they make, including where they shop, the brands they choose and the pack sizes that meet their needs.

Finally, as you can see from our results today, we have made significant progress restoring the profitability of our business. Driven by the benefits of last year's broad-based pricing, this year's targeted pricing and project momentum, adjusted gross margins expanded 300 basis points versus the prior year.

While we are encouraged with this progress, there is more work to do as our margin profile remains below historical levels, with the impact of both project momentum and our approach to pricing and revenue management, we are confident in our ability to close that gap.

When we kicked off project momentum, we highlighted the redesign of our operational network. These actions will optimize our route to market and create manufacturing and packaging centers of excellence that are designed to improve the resiliency of our business, all while driving significant savings across our product portfolio.

Additional areas of value creation include a focus on value engineering to reduce costs while maintaining or improving product efficacy, as well as the efforts of our procurement team to leverage new approaches to reduce our costs, including securing sources of supply and closer proximity to our plant.

We are also driving savings from the investments we are making in our digital transformation, including improved data and analytics, which enable activities, such as predictive modeling to optimize our ocean shipment costs.

Year-to-date, behind these efforts, the program has generated $20 million in savings and contributed to a meaningful reduction in working capital as a percentage of sales. The program is off to a great start and the teams are executing with excellence.

The combination of organic sales growth, gross margin improvement and working capital reductions enabled us to significantly improve free cash flow relative to the prior year. Through the first two quarters, we have generated free cash flow of almost $200 million in excess of 13% of net sales.

We have paid down over $150 million of debt during the first half of the year, including over $100 million in the second quarter. We delivered a solid first half of the year. And as we look ahead, we are confident in our ability to navigate an admittedly uncertain macro environment.

That confidence stems from the actions we have taken in the past couple of years, in our digital transformation to improve both, visibility across the enterprise and to leverage data and analytics to capture opportunities and mitigate risks.

These transformational efforts, combined with operational savings from momentum are positioning Energizer as a much more agile and responsible organization in a dynamic environment. Now, let me turn the call over to John to provide additional details about our financial performance..

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. I will provide a more detailed summary of the quarter, an update on Project Momentum and some additional color on our outlook for the remainder of the year. For the quarter, reported net sales were flat with organic revenue up 2.6%.

Adjusted gross margin increased 300 basis points to 37.9%, driven by pricing actions, savings generated from Project Momentum and the benefit of exiting lower-margin battery business, partially offset by increased input costs.

Adjusted SG&A decreased $1.1 million, primarily driven by Project Momentum savings and favorable currency, partially offset by higher stock compensation amortization and factoring fees tied to rising interest rates. A&P as a percent of sales was 2.7%, reflecting the seasonality of our business and roughly in line with the prior year.

Interest expense increased $3.7 million year-over-year, due mainly to rising interest rates, partially offset by lower average debt outstanding. We delivered adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share of $139.5 million and $0.64 per share.

On a currency-neutral basis, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share were $149.9 million and $0.75 per share, representing currency-neutral adjusted EBITDA growth of 31% and earnings per share growth of 60%. Through the first six months of the year, we have generated approximately $192 million of free cash flow or over 13% of net sales.

We achieved these excellent results by combining strong, operating earnings with a nearly 200 basis point improvement in working capital since the start of the year. In the quarter, we also paid down over $100 million of debt. We ended the quarter with net debt to adjusted EBITDA of 5.6 times, a reduction of 0.5 a turn year-over-year.

Our debt capital structure remains in great shape, with a weighted average cost of debt of around 4.75% and 90% fixed, with no meaningful maturities until 2027. We continue to show solid progress with Project Momentum as we generated savings of $12.9 million in the quarter.

And we are focused on continued improvements through network optimization, strategic sourcing efforts, value-added value engineering and SG&A savings enabled by our digital transformation.

The program remains on track to deliver $80 million to $100 million in run rate savings, with roughly 80% of those benefits impacting gross margin and the remainder recognized throughout the rest of the P&L. We anticipate an additional $10 million to $20 million of savings to benefit the remainder of fiscal 2023.

Working capital improvement is another critical aspect of our effort to improve free cash flow. Project Momentum initiatives have bolstered our efforts across inventory payables and receivables management, resulting in a working capital reduction of roughly $40 million in the first half of the year.

This is inclusive of incremental inventory built to support network changes. We continue to expect our initiatives to deliver over $100 million in working capital improvements over the life of the program. And finally, I would like to provide additional color on our outlook for our third quarter and the remainder of the year.

We expect organic revenue growth in the back half of the year of 3% to 5%, driven by the continued benefits of pricing, and a moderation of volume declines. Reported revenues are projected to be 2% to 4% over the same period.

We expect gross margins in the third quarter to be roughly flat to our recently completed second quarter as input costs have stabilized and product mix will be relatively consistent quarter-over-quarter.

We also expect fourth quarter gross margins to meaningfully benefit from both input cost tailwinds, specifically freight, and incremental Project Momentum savings driving significant gross margin expansion year-over-year.

We will continue to invest in support of our brands and expect A&P spending for the remainder of the year to be slightly above prior year levels with a full year expectation of roughly 5% of net sales. We expect that SG&A will be roughly flat on a dollar basis relative to the prior year.

Interest expense over the remainder of the year is expected to be up about $2 million from the prior year, driven by higher interest rates and partially offset by lower average outstanding debt in the year.

And finally, at current rates, we expect the currency impact on earnings to be neutral over the remainder of the year relative to fiscal 2022, with modest headwinds in the third quarter, offset by a pickup in the fourth quarter. We remain on track to deliver the full year as guided in November.

We continue to expect low single-digit organic net sales growth for the full year. Pricing, mix management and Project Momentum savings are still expected to result in improved gross margins of 100 to 150 basis points year-over-year.

Combined with continued cost management down the rest of the P&L, we are reaffirming our outlook for adjusted EBITDA in the range of $585 million to $615 million and adjusted earnings per share of $3 to $3.30. Now, I'd like to turn the call back over to Mark for closing remarks..

Thanks, John. We delivered a strong first half of the year. We generated organic growth in a dynamic environment and improved both profitability and cash flow. I am proud of our team's execution and look forward to our exceptional brands continuing to generate long-term shareholder value. With that, I will open the call for questions..

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Kevin Grundy with Jefferies. Please go ahead..

Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone..

Good morning, Kevin..

Good morning, Kevin..

First question, just on the phasing of organic sales growth in the back half of the year. It sounds like you're expecting 3% to 5%. Just maybe a little bit more color the breakdown of pricing and volume and how you expect that to sort of phase into the P&L.

Also related, Mark, you made a comment on some distribution gains in North America and international.

Maybe just a little bit on specifically where those are coming from? And also whether that was contemplated in your initial guidance or whether that's sort of a potential upside or maybe you're feeling a little bit better about where you are in the range, relative to when you initially provided and I have a follow-up on gross margin. Thanks..

Hey, Kevin, I'll start with the second one, and I'll turn it over to John for some of the phasing one.

I mean in terms of the distribution, that was an Auto Care reference, and it was a little bit of expanded distribution in the US and some of our existing retailers as well as continued expansion in international markets as we continue to roll that out with the international growth plan, those were contemplated in the original outlook that we provided in November.

And John, do you want to.

Yes, Kevin, for our P&L for the back half of the year, projection in batteries seems we still see negative volumes in Q3 and flat to slightly positive in Q4. We're going to combine that with the continued benefits of pricing to get that 3% to 5% top line organic growth in the back half.

In Auto Care, we anticipate low to mid-single-digit volume declines in both quarters. But really, that pricing will continue to carry to slightly positive organic growth..

Got it. Thank you, guys. And then just a very quick follow-up. On the gross margin outlook, and I apologize if I missed this. I think the prior outlook was up 100 to 150 basis points for the year, so you're up 225 basis points.

Now so maybe just when you kind of pull all the pieces together between pricing and commodities, productivity, et cetera, where are you now in terms of overall gross margin? And then just a little bit on the phasing.

If I heard it correctly, I thought that the commentary was 3Q gross margin was to be flat sequentially or close to flat sequentially with the second quarter, if that's the case, that would imply sort of a step down, quite a step down, I guess, year-over-year. Maybe just some cleanup there on the gross margin, and then I'll pass it on. Thank you..

Yes. Go ahead, you called it out, Kevin, we did want to talk about that a little bit. So when we look at the -- I'll just start with gross margin in general, top priority for us, and we've really made tremendous progress there. So up 300 basis points this quarter was a really good accomplishment. As you saw, it was really driven by pricing and momentum.

We were offsetting the input costs that were still up a headwind in the quarter. In batteries, we saw that headwind really driven by some of the input cost lithium, EMD, zinc and steel. In Auto Care, it was still R-134a, which is that refrigerant product and silicone.

And in both businesses, you've seen impacted by increased energy and labor costs, which really impacting conversion cost for us. What we've seen is those input costs have stabilized, what I'd say that at market, we've had some positive, some negative, but really flat.

We're expecting the third quarter margins, as you mentioned, to be roughly consistent with the just completed second quarter. But we've also seen a lot of improvement in ocean freight, and that's happened over the first half of the year. That's flowing through inventory right now, and we expect to really see material improvement in the fourth quarter.

So different than last year, where we saw a big bounce up in the third quarter and then a drop off in the fourth. We're expecting pretty consistent this year. So you're going to see third similar to second quarter. And then you're going to see fourth quarter really end up in a nice spot as we finish out the year..

Got it. Okay. Very good. I'll hop back in the queue. Thank you, guys. Good luck..

Thanks, Kevin..

Our next question comes from Bill Chappell with Truist Securities. Please go ahead..

Thanks. Good morning..

Good morning, Bill..

Hi, Bill..

I’ve got a question on POS on battery volumes. Trying to understand kind of how elasticity works and how it should work through the remainder of this year? Because I would think on one hand, you have -- if there's a sticker shock or people are trying to save money, they go more towards value packs and multi-packs that drive actual volumes up.

But at the same point, I don't know if you're seeing just an exacerbated volume drop right after the holidays, as people are pantry deloading before they buy new batteries. So -- and how that would work through the remainder of the year. So, any kind of color around the consumer takeaway trends you're seeing would be great..

Bill, I'll start, and then maybe if I don't touch on something of interest, we can -- you can ask a follow-up on it. I think as you look at battery category globally, and a lot of this will be driven at the market level depending upon when pricing and different dynamics that may exist in that market.

But if we look at it from a macro perspective, the pricing really started to flow into the category, because of all the inflation that the manufacturers were experiencing last March, April time frame is when pricing started to move up again in the category. You started to see the elasticity impact hit at that time.

And so globally, we just started at kind of low double digits from a volume standpoint. And then you've worked your way back roughly to where we are now, which is in that mid-single-digit range. We expect that trajectory to continue in the latest four-week data in the US, for example, its volume is down just over 3%.

I think it's 3.3%, the latest four-week data. And so you're seeing that trajectory flow in a manner which is consistent with what we would expect from prior price increases. Now, as you can appreciate, this is a different environment than what prior price increases have been executed under insight.

Do you think there's a portion of that elasticity impact that has been exacerbated by the macro environment from consumers, particularly once we work our way through holidays. So in calendar Q1, you started to see the consumers reacting more cautiously.

Within the battery category itself, they're continuing to value sort of the premium performance brands, and that's continuing to carry the day. We're continuing to gain share with our Energizer brand, which is great that as we've taken pricing in the category, we've been able to keep the brand preference that existed prior to the price increases.

So, I would say, all on track from an elasticity standpoint, a little bit of a pressure from the consumer as we deal with the macro environment. But we're on track to achieve kind of the elasticity metrics that we put in place when we were analyzing pricing last spring..

Got it. And I guess, I will just follow up on that -- on the volumes.

Would you also consider this quarter to be kind of the last tough comp with COVID because in this time last year, there was still a fair amount of consumers at home with Omicron and it was kind of a changing environment where it seemed to have opened up as we got to the summer? And so, I would think that, that has some impact on the year-over-year comparisons as well, but I could be wrong..

No, Bill, I think that's a great point. I think anytime you're looking at a comp period over the last three years, you're dealing with a multivariable situation. So you had increased COVID demand that drove difficult comp periods, as well as growth in certain time periods.

You had inflation and increased pricing, not just within our category, had it across the store, you have a tougher macro backdrop right now. So, I think anytime you're comparing period-over-period, you have to take into account likely more than one variable.

To your point, was there some carryover that existed in the prior year period in Q3, likely a little bit, but it's been diminishing as we worked our way through it. So there may be a little bit, but I think most of the impact will be come from -- as we work our way through pricing..

Great. Thanks, so much..

Thanks, Bill..

Thanks, Bill..

Our next question comes from Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please go ahead..

Thanks everyone, and thank you, operator and good morning. So I was just coming back to Bill's question. I think you quoted also, what has happened with the carrier overall globally. Any particular batteries, I think you said in the prepared remarks, 2.7% up and volume still down, I believe, 5.5%.

So like just thinking of the puts and takes between pricing and mix and also the comparison of volumes, does the comparison -- I believe the comparison for volumes as you go into the third quarter get easier for batteries and it's get tougher for auto care.

So if you can kind of like talk to us on that on a sequential basis? And then related to that, the price mix and how you're seeing -- I believe we heard from pretty much everyone that reported so far that we are seeing consumers going to more value in terms of sizes of packs and somewhere in the middle.

And we've done -- obviously, we've done a great job kind of sweetening the mix in that way and premiumized in the packs and RGM. Can you talk to that as we go through the end of the year? What are you expecting? What are you seeing? And just on -- on your commentary regarding consumers planning to become a little bit more price conscious? Thank you..

Andrea, I'll cover maybe the last part of your question first and then turn it over to John for some of the volume value breakdown. But what I would say is there haven't been drastic movements in pack sizes. You are seeing some shifting that's occurring depending upon which retailer, which channel you're analyzing.

I would say some consumers tend to trade down to achieve a lower price point in terms of pack size, but they stay at premium brands. And then other consumers will increase the pack size purchase in order to get a better perceived value, but again, still continuing to stay with premium brands.

So to your point, we have continued to premiumize the category and trade people up into Energizer, continue with our share growth. But that really gets down to an individual consumer level of how to achieve the value that they're seeking.

The great news is we have a broad portfolio of brands, but also pack sizes to meet them wherever they want to go within the category.

John, on volume and value?.

Yeah, Andrea. We used to expect to see volumes improving throughout the back half of the year in batteries specifically, although, we are calling for negative volumes in Q3 and then slightly positive in Q4. And then as I mentioned, we're going to combine that with just carryover benefits of pricing.

So we're expecting to see some top line growth 3% to 5%. And then on the Auto Care side, we're still expecting to see low to mid single digit volume declines all the way through the end of fiscal 23. And then also, we'll have a fair amount of pricing that will give us, kind of flat to slightly positive growth in that category..

That is super helpful. Just as a follow-up on the price mix, isn't the price mix getting – the mix getting even better? And then the pricing rolling over like in terms of the timing of pricing that's something that obviously is happening to everyone, you're starting to anniversary pretty big price increases.

So how should we, and not to take credit, of course, you've done it tremendously well from a margin standpoint, and I appreciate all the bridges and puts and takes, but how we should be thinking of as you roll over the pricing, you can kind of have that volume back.

And what gives you confidence that the fourth quarter volume will pick up? Is that more of a function of the easy comparison?.

Andrea, I think embedded in your question is what we expect to happen as we anniversary the price increases is that, you're going to start to see volume and value converge, value -- and volume come back to in Q4 as John mentioned, ultimately work the way back to flat and then work off the new base from there.

That is historically consistent with our historical elasticity patterns that we've seen in the past. It's what's been playing out since last March when we initiated the price increases. And so you'll start to see volume work its way back to its new baseline in Q4..

Yeah. And Andre, the only thing I'd add to that is that the price mix portion of it, we do expect to see declining impact. Obviously, with 13% tailwind this quarter. It's not going to be that high. It will still be positive in the third quarter, and it will continue to come down in the fourth quarter.

So to Mark's point, we expect to see a flip between volume and pricing as we finish out the year..

Okay. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on..

Our next question comes from Robert Ottenstein with Evercore. Please go ahead. .

Great. Thank you very much. Two questions, please, possibly related.

I was wondering if you could kind of stand back and review the Rayovac acquisition, how that has played out given your original thesis, how retailers have responded? Is it giving you more flexibility versus private label as the consumer gets squeezed? And as you've got to deal with pricing increases or cost increases and you've got a wider, I guess, latter pricing ladder to work with.

So just trying to kind of understand how that has played out. And then possibly related, if you could give us an update in terms of e-commerce, what the competitive dynamics there look like? And is Rayovac helping you there as well? Thank you..

I think the short answer to your question, Robert, is yes, it's helping us a great deal. I think the -- we're extremely happy with the acquisition of the Rayovac brand. It's given us the ability to be even a better supplier to our retailers. It gives us another brand in our portfolio to meet their needs.

It gave us extra manufacturing capacity in order to be able to address particularly the surge demand which occurred during the pandemic. And it allows us to be a better supplier, a more efficient supplier and continue to drive value for the retailers depending upon what their needs may be.

As you've seen from an overall share perspective, it certainly made us a healthier business from a share perspective because we continue to gain share consistently over the last couple of years. We've been able to consistently trade up into the Energizer brand, which is a great trade up from our perspective.

And as a result, I think it's been a hugely successful acquisition for us, particularly online. Now what we've been able to do is, as you know, we had a fairly mature e-commerce effort against our Energizer brand when we acquired the business. We've been able to fold that in and we've been able to continue to use our to drive Rayovac sales online.

You've seen some shifting going around within Amazon in terms of value and premium brands, but we've continued to emphasize the Energizer brand online as well. Rayovac certainly plays a role. And if consumers migrate to the more value end of the equation, we're going to be there and have great offerings for them at that level as well..

Thank you very much..

Thanks, Robert..

Next question comes from Hale Holden with Barclays. Please go ahead..

Good morning. I just had one question.

The $100 million in debt that you guys paid down in the quarter was that against the term loan or applied somewhere else?.

It was all term loan Hale..

Great. Thank you so much..

Yes, thanks..

Our next question comes from Carla Casella with JPMorgan. Please go ahead..

Hi.

This is -- I think you partly answered this, but just to clarify, given the weather in March, was there -- how much of your sales would you say might be pulled forward just given timing of kind of storms in the weather season this year versus last?.

Look, I would say, Q2 is really the beginning of the peak season for Auto Care, and I'm assuming you're referencing specifically, Auto Care. And you saw all of the new sets go in retailers over Q2. Certainly, warmer weather, earlier, hotter weather in the season helps drive early momentum in the season but it really needs to continue through Q3.

But I would say we're off to a very solid start in Auto Care. If the weather continues, obviously, that will only build that business going forward..

In batteries, what about -- I mean, I just thought like March, there was a lot of unseasonable storms.

Is there any pull forward do you think in the battery business?.

Well, I mean, what you would see from storms in terms of power outages, you will see some surge demand. A lot of that will get to sort of inventory levels at retail. We have not seen a tremendous amount of pull forward. We've seen inventory levels. It was a big point of emphasis coming out of holiday. We've seen some mild improvement.

I would say we have not gone back to historical levels of inventory yet. So we have not seen a bunch of pull forward from Q3 into Q2 because of storms..

Okay. Great. And then there was just some press over some past – there was some potential litigation suits.

And I'm just curious, are you indemnified that for anything that happened before your 2019 acquisition of the batteries? Is there an indemnification agreement with Spectrum?.

I want to make sure I'm answering the question in terms of what you're asking.

Are you referring to the recent litigation that was filed?.

Yes. I think I saw the recent litigation about the complaints about the Sherman and the California Cartwright Act of price fixing. And they mentioned 2018 in the article. I've not gone through the full suite..

I Understood. No, I think because the factors of litigation, obviously, we can't comment on it. I mean our view of those pieces of litigation is that they don't have any merit. And as a result, we're just going to respond within the confines of the legal process, and we'll leave our comments there..

Okay. But I know if it's for a period that you didn't own the batteries, I'm assuming you'd be indemnified.

I just wasn't sure when you bought it if there was an agreement in the agreement with the -- I'm sorry, provisioning the agreement with Spectrum?.

Yes. I don't want to get into the specifics of the litigation. I think to the extent that we have any recourse under any agreement with Spectrum. We'll deal with them separately within the Spectrum acquisition. But for now, I think we ought to just respond within the legal process..

Okay. Okay, great. Thank you..

The next question comes from Kevin Grundy with Jefferies. Please go ahead..

Hey, great, guys. I appreciate you taking the follow-up. Two for me, probably for Mark, just on advertising and marketing levels, how are you currently thinking – the environment is clearly gotten much better from a cost perspective, from an FX perspective.

So to the extent that you're able to proceed on the gross margin outlook, Mark, what's your bias towards reinvestment? I know you're trying to accelerate the top line, appropriately trying to restore gross margin, but also concurrently trying to raise advertising and marketing levels.

And I just wanted to try to get your sense of where you are now to the extent the company does exceed on gross margin, gross profit. How you're thinking about potential for reinvestment? And then I have a quick follow-up on promotion. Thanks..

Sure, Kevin. I think we always look to stay within that 5% to 6% range. If I take a step back, we're really pleased with the first half of the year. We came into the year with really three key priorities, gross margin improvement, free cash flow generation, paying down debt. We've made phenomenal progress against all of those.

Looking ahead, project momentum is accelerating. We're going to continue to achieve savings there in the two-year program and a high degree of confidence in $80 million to $100 million.

As we -- if we're able to accelerate things and we do see opportunities to reinvest, I think that's always something we will look at doing in order to continue to drive top line growth. I think right now, obviously, we're controlling what we can within the P&L and the caution is around the consumer.

And to the extent that we can invest and have the flexibility to invest to reach those consumers and be able to drive consistent top line growth, we'll absolutely look at that..

Got it. And then a quick follow-up, Mark, is just on promotion levels. As I look across -- as I look at the Nielsen data, batteries is actually one of the heavily promoted, at least in terms of the degree of the increase year-over-year and you guys seem to be leading that relative to your key competitor and even ahead of private label.

And I just wanted to kind of get your sense of the use of promotion as a tool to sort of drive demand, where we are relative to pre-pandemic levels and how you're sort of thinking about that? Because the gross margin improvement still looks quite good, despite the fact that the promotion is seemingly ramped here in the US.

So just some thoughts there and then I can pass it on. Thank you, very much..

Sure, Kevin. On that one, I would say, we try to look at the promotion cycles in longer term, so 52-week cycles. In the most recent time period, you've seen an uptick year-over-year relative to price promotion. And this is always going to be a category where there's some degree of promotion.

And I think the important thing to dissect is full price displays versus the percentage of sales that are out with a price reduction. What you've seen in the most recent time period is from a category standpoint, it's around 11.5%. Energizer is a little bit below that. Our competition is a little bit above that.

When you look at it over a longer-term horizon pre-pandemic, that's actually lower than historical levels. If you look at it against three years ago, any increase that you've seen in Energizer's promotional activity would be connected to distribution gains that we made over that time period.

So there hasn't been a shift in our philosophy about promotion. We still continue to think, it is a lever that we need to pull in order to stay connected with consumers, but it's not one that we need to pull because the battery category, as you know, is relatively inelastic and there's no need to overly promote in the category. .

Okay. Very good. I appreciate you taking the follow-up guys. Good luck..

Our next question comes from William Reuter with Bank of America. Please go ahead..

Good morning. I know that toys is one of the categories of devices that is for batteries and that category is very weak.

I was wondering, if you've had initial discussions with your retail partners about how they may be planning their holiday sets, whether that could have any impact on your fourth quarter revenues or first quarter of next?.

Well, anything in terms of what we're aware of for the balance of this fiscal year has been built into the outlook that we provided today. And as we get into sort of Q1 of next year, we'll provide an update of that in November. I would say, the benefit for us in the battery category is a very fragmented device universe, which use our battery.

Certainly, if there's negative trends in one subcategory of those devices frequently, there's an increase in other devices that will offset those.

So we have a fragmented enough base that, there's not overly concerned -- overly amount of concern in any one area, but I would say, we can weather -- we can weather the economic conditions that we're experiencing now because the category is a need-based product, and it's relatively inelastic..

Okay. And then secondarily for me when you laid out your kind of financial priorities for the year, they were all around deleveraging and free cash flow. Historically, the company has not had a formal leverage target.

I guess, does that remain to be the case? And in light of that, where would leverage need to be down to where you would consider either M&A or shareholder returns, other things that are not focused on reducing leverage?.

So Bill, I'll start with the first part. We still don't have a formal target, but we are working to delever as our primary objective. So we think we can take leverage down around 0.5 turn a year. We've already done that over the last nine months, we're making really good progress. I think we'll continue to focus on deleveraging as we go forward.

I think we would all feel much more comfortable, if we can get that leverage level to something like 4% or below. Again, that's not a specific target, but I think that will be a better place for us to operate in the long run. As far as M&A, I think that is paying down debt is our primary objective.

M&A is not something that we're looking at as a material investment at this point. So we need to make a lot of progress on the debt pay down before we consider anything that would be a material M&A target..

Great. That's all very helpful. Thank you..

Our next question comes from Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead..

Hey, good morning. Congrats on the strong results, and thank you for taking the question. So in Q1, you and several CPG companies called out destocking at retailers, but this quarter really haven't heard that as much.

Are we through the destocking in your opinion? And if not, how does that contribute to volume declines in the quarter? And then secondly, I'd be curious to hear your opinion on consumer inventory levels in general in terms of pantry loading or lack thereof? Thank you..

Sure. I'll start with the last part. I think from a consumer standpoint, you are seeing a more cautious consumer. I think as a result, it's safe to say that, they're inventory levels at home have decreased as they buy less frequently. And you've seen them continue to shop more cautiously as inflation is really hit across the store.

From a retailer standpoint, we have seen mild improvement in the inventory levels at retail, but we have not seen it snap back to historical levels just yet. And our outlook contemplates kind of status quo of where we are now and not coming all the way back for the balance of the year..

Yeah. I would just add a little bit of color to that last comment. So we do expect retailers for the rest of the year to kind of manage on a more tight basis. So we're viewing that as probably a 50 to 100 basis point headwind for our full year outlook. So it didn't come all the way back, and we expect that to come off the top of it..

Great. Thank you, guys..

Thank you..

Our next question comes from Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please go ahead..

Thank you for taking my follow-up. So the one just on this prior question also on the volume and the sell-out and sell-in. So if you take our channels globally, I think the comparison you gave was the 5.5% volume decline in the category that you called out in your prepared remarks.

And then if I'm doing my math right here, and you just gave 50 to 100 basis points for the full year. So if you -- and it's a big if, number one, are you tracking volume share as well? And if not, I think the math would imply that you had about 300 to 400 basis points declining in -- from destocking.

So in other words, you were about 8% to 9% -- actually 9% to 10% decline in volumes across both categories. And any batteries you had the category down in volumes by 5.5%.

So is that right that in this quarter, probably you had, number one, volume share decline accelerating? And if not, why? And it's just like the destocking being stronger now in this quarter than it was I'm just trying to reconcile.

And then part of the question, just on the pricing of private label, I understand that some private label manufacturers have a pass-through that may be coming up in the next few quarters given that commodities are rolling over. So when the anniversary, there's some they have to actually reduce prices.

Are you seeing that happening or heard of anything of that sort? Thank you..

So Andrea, on the first point, where I was talking about the volume impact that occurred in the first quarter. So I wasn't -- we saw some bounce back in the second quarter, but really attribute the midst of the first quarter. So that's not a go-forward or a second quarter statement on the volume differential, if I'm catching your question right.

I'll turn it over to Mark on the private label question..

On private label, Andre, globally, it's flat. You're seeing a small increase in the US, but not above sort of historical levels of what we've seen previously. As we've mentioned, we continue to see consumers migrate to the premium end of the category..

Okay. Perfect. Thank you..

Thank you..

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark LaVigne for any closing remarks..

Thank you for your interest in Energizer for joining the call today. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day..

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