image
Industrials - Agricultural - Machinery - NYSE - US
$ 398.95
1.09 %
$ 109 B
Market Cap
13.42
P/E
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q2
image
Executives

Raj Kalathur - Chief Financial Officer Tony Huegel - Director of Investor Relations Susan Karlix - Manager of Investor Communications.

Analysts

Jamie Cook - Credit Suisse Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets Steven Fisher - UBS Andrew Casey - Wells Fargo Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research Matthew Rybak - Goldman Sachs Vishal Shah - Deutsche Bank Ann Duignan - JP Morgan Mircea Dobre - Robert Baird Nicole DeBlase - Morgan Stanley Alan Fleming - Barclays Capital David Raso - ISI Group.

Operator

Good morning and welcome to Deere and Company’s second quarter earnings conference call. Your lines have been placed on listen-only until the question-and-answer session of today’s conference. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Tony Huegel, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin..

Tony Huegel

Thank you. Also on the call today are Raj Kalathur, our Chief Financial Officer; and Susan Karlix, our Manager of Investor Communications. Today we’ll take a closer look at Deere’s second quarter earnings, then spend some time talking about our markets and our outlook for the second half of fiscal 2014. After that we’ll respond to your questions.

Please note that slides are available to complement the call this morning. They can be accessed on our website at www.johndeere.com. First, a reminder. This call is being broadcast live on the Internet and recorded for future transmission and use by Deere and NASDAQ OMX.

Any other use, recording or transmission of any portion of this copyrighted broadcast without the express written consent of Deere is strictly prohibited. Participants in the call, including the Q&A session, agree that their likeness and remarks in all media may be stored and used as part of the earnings call.

This call includes forward-looking comments concerning the company’s plans and projections for the future and are subject to important risks and uncertainties.

Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company’s most recent Form 8-K and periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

This call also may include financial measures that are not in conformance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America or GAAP.

Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures is included in the release and posted on our website at www.johndeere.com/financialreports under Other Financial Information. Susan..

Susan Karlix

price, about two points; lower pension OPEB expense; less favorable mix of product, overhead spend due to tier 4 transaction, tier 4 product cost and foreign exchange. Looking at R&D expense on slide 19, R&D was down about 6% in the second quarter, mainly due to timing of projects.

Our 2014 forecast calls for R&D expense to be down about 1% compared to last year. Moving now to slide 20, SA&G expense for the equipment operations was down about 14% in the second quarter and is forecast to be down about 7% for the year.

In the year-over-year comparison of SA&G expenses, Landscapes accounts for about seven points of the change and water about one point. On slide 21, pension and OPEB expense was down about $40 million in the quarter and is forecast to be down about $150 million for the full year.

Turning to slide 22, the equipment operations tax rate was approximately 32% in the second quarter. One of the discreet items benefiting the tax rate in the quarter related to John Deere Water as noted in our financial statements. For full year 2014, the effective tax rate is now forecast to be in the range of 33% to 35%.

On slide 23 you see our equipment operations history of strong cash flow. Our forecast for cash flow from equipment operations is approximately $4 billion in 2014. Slide 24 highlights share repurchase activity since 2004. Of note is our strong share repurchase activity year-to-date, which has exhausted our 2008 repurchase authorization.

Repurchases are now taking place under the $8 billion authorization announced in December. On slide 25 and 26 we outlined our 2014 outlook for the third quarter and full year. Our net sales forecast for the third quarter is down about 4% compared with 2013. This includes about two points of price realization.

In the year-over-year comparison of third quarter sales, Landscapes accounts for about four points of the change. The full year forecast calls for net sales to be down about 4%. In the year-over-year comparison of net sales, Landscapes accounts for about three points of the change.

Price realization is expected to be positive by about two points; FX is expected to be negative by about one point. Finally our full year 2014 net income forecast remains at about $3.3 billion.

In closing, John Deere expects to achieve near record earnings for the full year and the company is well positioned to deliver solid financial results throughout the business cycle. We are confident our investments in new products and markets, coupled with a tight reign on costs and assets will keep our growth plans moving ahead.

As for our plan, we believe they are essential to helping meet the world’s growing need for food, shelter and infrastructure and we continue to believe John Deere is exceptionally well positioned to benefit from these developments in the quarters and years to come. Tony. .

Tony Huegel

Now we’re ready to being the Q&A portion of the call. The operator will instruct you on the polling procedure. But as a reminder, in consideration of others, please limit yourself to one question and one related follow up. If you have additional questions, we ask that you rejoin the queue. Operator..

Operator

(Operator Instructions) The first question comes from Jamie Cook with Credit Suisse. .

Jamie Cook - Credit Suisse

Hi, good morning. I guess two questions; first, Tony or Susan if you could just provide some color on how the order book has trended relative to last quarter with some of the new tier 4 final products introduced. Whether you’ve seen any drop off in how you’re thinking about visibility for the second half of the year.

And then I guess my second question just relates to the implied decremental margins in the back half of the year in Ag. It seems like they should be worse in the back half given your top-line assumptions. I thought the second quarter probably would have been the worse with production down more.

If you can just walk me here if there’s anything I’m missing there? Thanks..

Tony Huegel

Sure, yes and first of all of the order book, I think maybe as an overarching comment on large Ag in particular, what we would tell you is if you think about the retail order coverage that we have on our forecast, we would tell you compared to last year we would be roughly inline.

It’s slightly below where we were a year ago, but again, roughly in line with the order coverage we have on the forecast. So again, I think trending pretty well there.

Specifically related to final tier 4, we talked about this last quarter as well with specifically the 8R tractor, where we were seeing very strong orders for that final tier four tractor. Didn’t really see any kind of drop-off at that time.

Our order book, we often talk about where we’re at from an availability perspective and we would tell you on 8R’s our order availability is into October. There is some availability remaining on that product for the year, but well into October in terms of that availability. So again, pretty good story from that perspective. .

Jamie Cook - Credit Suisse

Any color on combines Tony. .

Tony Huegel

Well again, it wouldn’t have changed much from our second quarter. You know our early order program tends to pretty much fill out that program and we saw that order fill pretty much the way we had anticipated and again have, we feel pretty good in terms of the order coverage obviously to the forecast cast we have in place today. .

Jamie Cook - Credit Suisse

Sorry, then the second question on the implied detrimentals in the back half..

Tony Huegel

On the detrimentals when you keep in mind that as you look historically at our cost of sales, second quarter tends to be the best; the lowest cost of sales as a percent of net sales of any, and that will true this year.

But if you look at the differential in what’s implied in the outlook, you will note that second quarter relative to the comments that you mentioned with the transitions we had, second quarter isn’t as strong as what you would normally see, but it still is forecast to be our best quarter from a lower cost of sales as a percent of net sales kind of ratio.

So I guess that I would argue that you are seeing in the forecast in terms of the differential not being as broad as what you would normally see. .

Jamie Cook - Credit Suisse

Okay, thanks. I’ll get back in queue. .

Tony Huegel

Thank you. Next caller. .

Operator

Your next question is from Seth Weber, RBC Capital Markets..

Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning everybody. .

Tony Huegel

Hey Seth.

How are you?.

Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets

How are you? Good thanks. Two questions, so just your level of confidence in the construction and forestry up 10% for the year. I mean that suggests a pretty powerful ramp here in the second half, something like the high teens growth rate for each of the third and fourth quarters.

Can you just maybe give us a little bit more color there on how of that is dealer restocking and how much of is some of the new production you are adding and then I have a follow-up question..

Tony Huegel

Sure, yes. And we would tell you again, that outlook as you mentioned hasn’t changed. Its always, and we talked about this throughout the year, it always has recognized more strength in the back half. Remember, to be fair, the comps do get a bit easier in the back half of the year, year-over-year, but if you look, our order book is up strong.

We tell you that the order book is up double digits. We feel pretty good about that. As it breaks down though, when you think about where are those higher sales coming from, we would tell you about three-fourth of the sales are coming from our U.S. and Canada market and about a quarter of the sales increase will come from outside the U.S. and Canada.

We didn’t break out how much is inventory versus retail, but again as you talked about before, certainly the inventory build is a fair amount of that increase for U.S. and Canada as we ended last year with very low inventory levels versus being what the market was last year.

So our dealers are building inventory in anticipation or expected to build inventory, both in anticipation of the higher retail, as well as we would argue kind of right sizing from a pretty strong pull down last year..

Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets

Okay, thank you and then just to follow up on Brazil, the change in outlook for the South American market, that tempered a little bit. I mean is that still around the tsunami dislocation or is there something that you feel like has actually softened in the overall market..

Tony Huegel

Yes, first I want to make sure we’re clear. That’s tractors and combines only, so it wasn’t applied to the remaining part of our business, which is a significant part of our sales in South America. It’s primarily driven by a little bit of softening in a couple of markets, really around tractor.

So if you think about Argentina, some challenges with import tariff and that’s primarily impacting tractors, at least for Deere and then also the sugarcane industry had little bit weaker markets in Brazil, a little weaker margins and we would anticipate sales to be a bit lower than what was previously expected on tractors and to that industry as well..

Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets

Okay, that’s very helpful. Thank you very much..

Tony Huegel

Thank you. Next caller..

Operator

And your next question comes from Steven Fisher, UBS..

Steven Fisher - UBS

Hi, good morning.

I wonder if you could just talk a little bit about the cost actions that you took in the quarter, where were they focused, how quickly can they kind of give you some pay back and how much more runway do you have on cost actions from here, should things deteriorate a little bit further?.

Tony Huegel

I mean, I think as we talked about and as we anticipate and see the markets changing with our FDA structure, we do have what we refer to as lever studies and expectations of what we can pull.

I think part of what your seeing and in the quarter actually as it relates to C&S for example, we pulled a number of levers last year at the division and its been slow to release those levers until we see those very strong sales that we’re anticipating coming through.

They’ve kept some of those pulled to the extent they can and I think really as you move forward in the upcoming years, it depends on what the market provides, there are a number of things we can do. You saw quite a bit of discipline around R&D and SA&G in the quarter for example. Some of that to be fair is timing of projects.

SA&G for example tends to be a little higher in the back half of the year for a number of reasons, but those would be the things we would think about certainly in terms of levers that we could pull if necessary to keep our margins as strong as possible..

Raj Kalathur President of John Deere Financial & Chief Information Officer

Steve, this is Raj. As you know, the process we have is byproduct. Almost every unit is looking at where they are on the line. You talk about in the 8120 or depending on the product it might vary that line and they need to provide us expected return at different points in the line, okay different returns.

So each one of them is working automatically on whether its cost of sales items or SA&G items okay, how they can get to walk down the line if they are coming down or walk up the line. So you have hundreds of things going on in the company depending on where that particular product line is, they may take a different action at another product line.

So you are seeing us walking down the line and that’s the benefit you see. If some portions of large Ag are coming down and you can expect them to walk down the lines there. If our small Ag is going up to North America, they’ll walk up the line..

Steven Fisher - UBS

Okay, that’s helpful and then just a question on the small equivalent side in Ag. It seems to be holding up better than the larger side.

Can you just talk about sort of the visibility you have there and if there’s pent up demand that’s coming through now and what sort of a feed outlook looking maybe a little flatter, what kind of visibility you have there on the small equivalent side..

Tony Huegel

Yes, on small Ag versus large, I mean this is a broad statement and our order book would not be as far out and rarely would be versus the large. So you don’t have quite as much visibility, but certainly as expected we’re seeing strength in that market.

Livestock margins continue to remain very strong and are expected to really through the year and most are expecting it to continue to be strong, even in the next year and that’s a market that’s had some struggle in the recent years.

So pent-up demand is hard to measure, but you can argue that a market or a part of our business that has had lower sales in recent years and has the opportunity to just from a cycle perspective to improve that as we move forward and that’s really what we’re seeing today..

Steven Fisher - UBS

Thank you..

Tony Huegel

Thank you. Our next caller..

Operator

Your next question is from Andrew Casey, Wells Fargo..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Thanks. Good morning everyone. .

Tony Huegel

Good morning..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Thanks Tony.

Was there any specific region that is driving the $50 million decrease in the trade receivable and inventory outlook for 2014?.

Tony Huegel

I don’t believe there’s any specific region that we would point to, that would be driving that reduction. We tend to look at it from an enterprise perspective, so I don’t have a great answer for you on that Andy..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Okay, thanks. And then I guess a follow-up on that is….

Tony Huegel

You’re talking on C&F on the quarter?.

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Yes..

Tony Huegel

Actually I would argue, some of that is going to be Canada. If you look at it at a region, we talked a lot last year, a bit last year about consigned inventory in Canada. Well, its was a bit high and that came down nicely and year-over-year is actually down very nicely.

I was thinking for the year, but certainly at this point in time it’s I would argue, Canada..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

I’m sorry Tony, I didn’t ask the question right. The $50 million reduction in the Ag and turf segment for the year, down 275 versus prior….

Tony Huegel

Oh, between Ag and turf, no. I think again that your really looking at kind of minor adjustments here and there. I would argue that it’s a relatively – given that versus the total receivables in inventory, that’s a minor adjustment..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Okay, and is that all behind you with Q2 or does some of that remain ahead..

Tony Huegel

Well, keep in mind, much of where we’re at Q2, so I would say its still ahead, because if you look at Q2, much of that is really driven by lower receivables and inventory as it relates to landscapes and water. If you took those out your relatively flat year-over-year and so when you get to the end of the year we’ll have further pull out..

Andrew Casey – Wells Fargo

Okay, I’ll follow-up. Thanks..

Tony Huegel

And I add that and I do want to point out for others as well. Keep in mind that as you look at the end of Q2 versus the year end, there is a difference in terms of year-over-year compare. So last year at the end of Q2 under landscape inventory and receivable would have been in our reported numbers.

They were not in our year end numbers, so that’s why when you look at the Q2 reduction, its much greater than what we’re anticipating for the end of the year, but if you pull out the impact of landscapes you’ll see a greater reduction actually at the end of the year versus where we’re at currently. Next caller..

Operator

Your next question is from Adam Uhlman, Cleveland Research. .

Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research

Yes, hi guys. Good morning..

Tony Huegel

Hello..

Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research

I guess first of all on construction and forestry, if you could start by addressing the price realization you got in that business and also talk about how the tier 4 final price increases are coming through?.

Tony Huegel

Yes, specific to construction and forestry, we don’t talk about price realization by division.

So we did talk about two points of price realization for the year on an enterprise basis and what we would tell you is in our current forecast we would anticipate both divisions participating in a positive way on price realization and so again, that’s about all we really talk to from a price perspective.

If you think about our final tier 4, we do have some constrains. I don’t know if that was a broad comment or if that was specific to construction and forestry..

Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research

Maybe if you could just address both..

Tony Huegel

Yes, so if you think about that broadly, final tier 4, while we do have some construction products transitioning in 2014 and its more or less a large Ag transition year more than construction and in that regard from a cost perspective, we would tell you that we would anticipate recovering all of the cost on large Ag in the year.

We are still recovering some of the interim tier 4 costs actually on construction and forestry, so we can tell you by the end of the year our forecast would estimate roughly 90% recovered on interim tier 4 and remember, construction, because of the size of the product, the horsepower range of the product tended to be about a year behind in the transition from what Ag was, so we’re making good progress, kind of on plan..

Raj Kalathur President of John Deere Financial & Chief Information Officer

So Adam, this is Raj. On the topic of price utilization, with regards to C&S, we did say in our press release about higher sales discounts and here’s a competitive environment we are facing and we have built our share over a long period of time based on providing better products, better services and better business processes.

So you should expect us to defend our share while delivering healthy margins..

Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research

Okay, got you. So with the kind of positive price this quarter, but that’s the goal for the year..

Tony Huegel

Well, I mean I think if you ask specifically about the quarter, that would be true, but keep in mind, as you think about price realization and the mention of sales incentives in the press release with accrual accounting as the assumptions change in terms of your anticipation on what are these sales incentives or any other types of accruals like that, keep in mind, the accrual change is not just for current sales, but also for the population that’s in the field already that you recorded sales in the past.

So you do get a larger than expected increase in that particular quarter. And again, I think its more important really to look at it from an annual perspective as it relates to that and again, that would be a positive price realization for the year..

Adam Uhlman - Cleveland Research

Okay, thank you..

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you..

Operator

The next question is from Jerry Revich, Goldman Sachs..

Matthew Rybak - Goldman Sachs

Good morning. This is Matthew Rybak on behalf of Jerry. First, I was wondering if you could talk about the impact of tier 4 conditions on factory costs in the quarter and then possibly update us on the timing of major product line transitioning costs in the coming quarters..

Tony Huegel

Yes, I mean we don’t talk about specific cost levels. The cost pieces as you may recall beginning in 2013, we changed our guidance and we talk about the total cost of sales as percent of net sales and at that time we discontinued the individual pieces of the dollar amount.

But certainly it was a factor and as you look at the cost of sales for the quarter. But I would tell you if you look at things like mix and FX, those were also very significant impacts in the costs.

As you go forward through the year there would be some, but the majority of those transitions would be behind us, at least as it relates to large Ag and again we have some significant transitions coming up for next year, 2015 as we transition small Ag, as well as a pretty large number of construction and forestry products..

Matthew Rybak - Goldman Sachs

Perfect. And then can you talk a little bit about the drivers of your CapEx reduction guidance this year and maybe where your cutting investment and talk about your longer term CapEx plans compared to significant new facility investments you’ve made over the past couple of years..

Tony Huegel

Yes, I would tell you that that CapEx reduction is really just minor adjustments and as we get closer to the end of the year, really examining what we would expect to complete this year. As you might imagine, many of those projects are multi year projects, so what’s going to get done this year versus next, those sort of thing.

So I would not read much into that adjustment that we made there. And then you know we talked about from the longer-term perspective. At least in the short to mid term that $1.1 million to $1.3 million range is what you should anticipate as you report and that’s not just new facilities.

Remember we had with final tier 4, that’s driving a significant portion of the CapEx requirement as well and lead through 2015. We certainly have a fair number of products that continue to transition..

Matthew Rybak - Goldman Sachs

Okay, thank you very much..

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you..

Operator

Your next question is from Vishal Shah, Deutsche Bank..

Vishal Shah - Deutsche Bank

Yes hi, thanks for taking my question. I’m just wondering if you can provide some more details around your C&S guidance of 10% growth this year.

How much of it is coming from market growth versus inventory rebuild and whether the growth is coming from domestic and international markets and also, just any update on your thoughts on expectations for bonus appreciation as well as timing of 179 incentives. Thank you..

Tony Huegel

Sure. Yes and I mentioned earlier on the call, really if you think about that 10% net sales increase for Deere’s construction and forestry business, about three quarters of that is coming from U.S. and Canada, both as you mentioned inventory, some inventory restocking as well as the stronger retail environment.

About a quarter of those sales come from outside the U.S. and Canada. So those are things like our businesses in Brazil, those new facilities and factories come on line and we talked about strengthening forestry demand in the European market as an example. So that’s really what’s driving that business. If you think about the U.S.

past incentives, there’s been a number of activities in converse around that, kind of moving those potential extensions forward. What we will tell you, at least what we have in our modeling.

So what we’re anticipating in our Ag modeling is that they would both be extended, but the extension wouldn’t be past until late calendar 2014 and so for Deere in terms of our 2014 benefit to our sales, it would be limited to nothing. Obviously we would have some benefit early in the year, so that would be our expectation.

Again, what we’re modeling is the section 179 gets extended at about half the level. Not that we have any particular intelligence that would tell you that that’s where it is, but effectively we’re splitting the difference, whether it would be at the 500,000 or not get extended at all and that’s the rational for why we use that number in our modeling.

But again, that’s where we’re seeing the model line..

Susan Karlix

And I think the thing to keep in mind is we’re saying late calendar 2014 gross profit is now impacted until 2015..

Tony Huegel

Right..

Vishal Shah - Deutsche Bank

Thank you..

Tony Huegel

Okay. Next caller..

Operator

Your next question is from Ann Duignan with JP Morgan..

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Hi, good morning guys..

Tony Huegel

Hi..

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

I want to go back to Jamie’s question, just get the question answered more clearly. If you look at during combine order books for North America this year, where did it come in relative to last year, just the year-over-year change, not versus your forecast..

Tony Huegel

Well, we haven’t talked to it. I mean we talked about large Ag being down double digits and certainly that would include our combine order book, so pretty much as expected, but certainly down double-digits. .

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

And combine’s been a little bit more than the average?.

Tony Huegel

Let me look at it here, just a second Ann. If you look at combines relative to, its kind of with other large Ag products. As we look at what our industry retail sales estimates are, which obviously would be a fair chunk of that, I would tell you that they are not down more than the rest of the industry, more than the other large Ag products.

I would say its pretty much right on average..

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Okay, another large product here including things like sprayers and….

Tony Huegel

Your talking sprayers, planters, well obviously our row crop tractors, four wheel drive tractors those sorts of products. Think about the product that a typical row crop framer would use. .

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Yes. Okay, and then going forward, how should we think about your financial services business in terms of the revenue come in, but larger forecasting. We shouldn’t have been surprised I suspect, but we tend to finance more again as the large crop farmer in the U.S.

Can you just give us a context of how we should think about that business going forward if the large row crop framer remains under pressure?.

Tony Huegel

Yes, I mean I think as you think about market share if you will for John Deere financial, as it relates to our Ag business in the U.S.

and Canada, that would be our strongest market share business and its running right around 60% of the Ag sales, would be financed with John Deere financial and as you’re aware our biggest competitor there is Cash, which takes up the bulk of the remainder.

But as you move forward, to your point, while we’re anticipating the portfolio to increase during 2014, its because that you have – we’re still even though year-over-year, say over down, they are still anticipating more acceptances this year versus those that would be maturing or being paid off.

If you continue to see pressure and our sales would flatten or maybe decrease, then obviously over a period of time you would see some lower portfolio and revenues.

At least as it relates to U.S., Ag could potentially decrease, but you’d have to make assumptions on what rest of the world and our penetration is and how that changes in the rest of the world as well. So there’s obviously a lot of moving pieces there..

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Okay, and just quickly as a follow-up to the section 179 question earlier, what are your thoughts on the mid term elections and the outcome of the mid term elections, upside potential to your 179 or downside.

Do you have any thoughts on that?.

Tony Huegel

We really don’t, we don’t. Again, the assumption is that after those mid term election, again late calendar years, it’s likely to be extended, so….

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Okay, thank you..

Tony Huegel

Again, at least that’s what we have in our base case, so…okay, thank you. .

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan

Yes, thanks..

Tony Huegel

Next caller..

Operator

The next question is from Mircea Dobre, Robert Baird..

Mircea Dobre - Robert Baird

Good morning guys..

Tony Huegel

Hey Mirc..

Mircea Dobre - Robert Baird

I guess, I’d like to go back to construction and forestry for a second. I’m a little bit confused about a top line guidance, because if I look at the last couple of quarters, you had very good orders.

You talked about very good orders here and seasonally at least it would make sense to me that the second quarter would be when we see a lot of dealer inventory restocking. Yet, we’ve seen readily tepid growth from a top line perspective over the last couple of quarters and your pointing out to much higher growth in the back half.

Yet the economic indicators you’re using in your forecast, all seem to have been adjusted lower. So can we sort of bridge the gap here? What sort of confidence do you have in your forecast at this point and what gives you that confidence I guess..

Tony Huegel

Yes, I think again I’ll mention a couple of things. First of all I’ll point out that while those economic indicators have lowered again, and those are people from outside sources of course, but given that they are still pointing upward and then pointing towards some improved overall market conditions. The other thing I would point out.

As it relates specifically to that dealer restocking, keep in mind that one of the difference for Deere versus at least many of our competitors is our order fulfillment process. We have very much a pull type system where our dealers, we don’t push a lot of inventory out into the market.

We allow our dealers to pull it as needed and with our pretty short order windows that we at lease attempt to have, we’re much more of a just-in-time type of process versus build up that inventory ahead of time sort of situation.

So we’ve been building much closer to retail and that part of the timing difference that you’ll see for Deere versus maybe some of our competitors who push some significant inventory in the field ahead of those sales materializing. .

Mircea Dobre - Robert Baird

I see and then, A&T, if we can talk a little bit about Russia too. I mean the sanctions there seem to be escalating. I know you have two plants in the country. Have you seen any impact on your operations and would you sort of characterize the risk if you would to your operations in Russia at this point. .

Tony Huegel

Yes, I think that obviously those conflicts, both as it relates to the Ukraine and Russia, certainly is in our forecast. We talked about that in terms of our industry outlook being down significantly.

Again, especially as it relates to western manufacturers like ourselves and so there is a number of factors obviously that go into that, that ultimately a lot as a result of some of that conflict. So we’ve anticipated and the greatest impact we think at this point would be on the sales and so we’ve pulled that into our outlook.

At this point, in terms of concerns around assets, those sorts of things, not a major impact and certainly at least as it relate to sales.

Now that we have challenges and potential challenges around import restrictions; credit availability because of that conflict is becoming even more of a difficult situation for our customers and dealers in some cases, those sorts of things.

So we are looking at how do we take some of the pressure off of our dealers, keeping inventors as low as possible and those sorts of things for a variety of reasons. It reduces our exposure, but it also helps reduce the exposure of our dealers from a longer-term perspective. .

Mircea Dobre - Robert Baird

All right, thanks..

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you. Next caller..

Operator

Your next question is from Nicole DeBlase, Morgan Stanley. .

Nicole DeBlase - Morgan Stanley

Yes, good morning Tony and Susan and Raj. So may be we could just talk a little bit about used equipment. I don’t think that’s been brought up yet.

What are you guys seeing from a dealer perspective, both with respect to inventories and pricing?.

Tony Huegel

Yes, not a significant change from what we’ve talked about last quarter. Again on used combines, we can tell you, all things considered we’re pretty comfortable with the used combine inventory levels at our dealers.

Certainly pricing we talked about last quarter, again is lower year-over-year and we tell you as it relates to at least the best intelligence we have on competitors, certainly in line with industry, in terms of those lower combine use prices. As it relates to tractors, again as we said last quarter, they are relatively high.

Again, its reflective of the very strong demand that we’ve had on new tractors, but that’s an area that we certainly continue to focus. Pricing would be down a little bit year-over-year.

We tell you again to the extent we have intelligence around what’s going on with our competitors, we would tell you we believe our tractor prices, these tractor prices are holding in quite a bit better than competition, but it is down slightly year-over-year. .

Nicole DeBlase - Morgan Stanley

Okay great, that’s pretty helpful Tony and maybe just with respect to the third quarter guidance. I don’t know if you’re willing to give any color on this, but I’m going to try any way. You said down 4% for equipment ops, any color between the C&F and the A&T segment there. .

Tony Huegel

Yes, that’s not something we would – obviously if you look at the rest of the year kind of implied guidance. Certainly we are expecting some pretty strong quarter from our C&F division as we go in actually the rest of the year for that particular division versus what you would have implied in the Ag and turf.

But other than that, there is not much more we would speak to. .

Nicole DeBlase - Morgan Stanley

Okay, fair enough. I’ll pass it on, thanks. .

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you. Next caller. .

Operator

The next question is from Andrew Kaplowitz, Barclays. .

Alan Fleming - Barclays Capital

Hey, good morning. Its Alan Fleming standing in for Andy this morning. .

Tony Huegel

Hi Alan. .

Alan Fleming - Barclays Capital

Tony if I could, I’d like to press you a little more on your assumptions for Ag in the second half of the year. I think in Brazil you had previously talked about growth coming from some of your other product lines such as sugarcane harvesters and cotton pickers and maybe every sprayers.

Is that sill something that you’re expecting to see in the second half of the year? And then if you could talk about what you’re seeing in Europe, it seems like it’s a very mixed market there and we’re getting I think some mixed messages from some of your competitors. So what’s your visibility like and are you seeing the recovery that you expected..

Tony Huegel

Sure and as it relates to Brazil you’re correct and we talked about it. If you think about the business outside of tractors and combines for Deere, in Brazil would be more than a third of our sales. There are those other products.

And certainly if you look at industry guidance versus Deere expectations for our net sales, we would tell you we continue to see South America as the biggest differential, partly because of the fact that you are only looking at tractors and combines in the industry outlook and as I mentioned, we have a fair amount of our sales coming from other types of products, as well as our expectation that we’ll continue to see those market share gains that we’ve had in recent years, we would expect to continue.

So again that would be our greatest differential. As we think about Europe, certainly as Susan mentioned in her opening comments, it is really a mixed bag and we didn’t, we didn’t change our industry outlook in Europe, so that would imply that we are at least on an overall basis not seeing further deterioration in that regard.

We don’t have the order book coverage that you would have on large Ag in the U.S.

and Canada that’s a typical situation there and so you can speak as well to where we are at from an order book perspective that you see in markets like the UK, which is a good market for Deere recovering off of low levels and they’ve had a couple of fairly depressed years, but we are all seeing some strength there. Spain is beginning to recover.

But then you have other key markets that Susan mentioned that are seeing some decline; France and Germany being the most notable, Poland notable as well.

Keeping like some of that isn’t so much around what’s going and from a profitability perspective its partly related to that, but also in some of those Eastern European countries in particular, it’s a transition year. This being a transition year for common Ag policy in Europe is also having some impact in certain situations. .

Alan Fleming - Barclays Capital

Okay, I appreciate that. And if I could you ask you a question on cash. I mean you continue to ratch it up, your repurchase activity.

I know you’re going to tell us that your cash priorities haven’t changed, but is it fair to say that you seem at least a little more confident that the intrinsic value of your stock versus where its trading is undervalued and it means that it maybe a little more worthwhile for you to be more aggressive than usual with buyback..

Raj Kalathur President of John Deere Financial & Chief Information Officer

Hey Alan, this is Raj. Yes, our cash priorities have not changed and as you know the single A rating and then the funding of operations and M&A consistently modestly raising our dividends to 25%, 35% of fair ratio in its cycle.

And then when we still have the cash that we can use, we put it to us, only if we feel long term, especially long term shareholders are going to be a value added form, okay. Now when we had the $8 billion share repurchase authorization, which was about 25% of our market cap, our announcement in December.

We suggested that we see that the statement of confidence in our ability to do well throughout the cycle. So as long as we are generating good levels of cash and have enough of our priority stated and our analysis indicates repurchase of value enhancing, especially for our longer-term shareholders, we should expect us to continue repurchases. .

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you. We’ll have time for one more, hopefully quick call or questions. .

Operator

Your last question is from David Raso Group, ISI. .

David Raso - ISI Group

Hi, I’ll try to be quick Tony. Just more direct question on the construction and revenue guidance. You mentioned the order book is healthy. The revenue guidance implies to the rest of the year 17% for C&F.

Is the order book up that much?.

Raj Kalathur President of John Deere Financial & Chief Information Officer

Yes, we don’t give you exact numbers but also remember the order book is only for a certain period of time, right. These are orders for a certain period of time. It is a lot healthier that is all I can tell you right now. .

Tony Huegel

Its certainly superiority of that outlook and that forecast. .

David Raso - ISI Group

Okay, that’s helpful. And the second quarter revenues for construction and forestry, I know you expected first half slower, second half stronger, I get that, but literally the second quarter.

Was that revenue as you expected or above or below?.

Tony Huegel

For C&F, I don’t think it was significantly out of line from the expectations. .

Raj Kalathur President of John Deere Financial & Chief Information Officer

So overall David, its Raj again. For the total company, if you the first second quarter and the revenues coming down in the second quarter compared to our earlier guidance, now there are two things that happened. One is related to weather and we talked about turf and we talked about a little bit with Ag, especially in Canada.

The second part of it has to do with places like where the geo political issues exist, Argentina and CIS. So if you look at it going forward, CIS, Argentina is where we see some more softness and we will not make up all those whether related messes in the Q2, otherwise its minor adjustments, not a significant change..

Tony Huegel

And those again will be for the full company and mostly impacting Ag and I think we mentioned in the opening comments. As you think about the sales coming in lower than what we had forecasted for the enterprise, most of that lower sales was driven by Ag and not C&F. .

David Raso - ISI Group

Okay, I appreciate the clarification. Thank you..

Tony Huegel

Okay, thank you. All right, that will conclude our call. We appreciate your participation and as always, we’ll be available throughout the day for return calls. Thank you. .

Operator

Thank you. This does concluded today’s conference. We thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect your line..

ALL TRANSCRIPTS
2024 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2023 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2022 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2021 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2020 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2019 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2018 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2017 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2016 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2015 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2014 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1