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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2022 - Q1
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Operator

Ladies and Gentlemen, good morning. My name is Louisa, and I’ll be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the ChargePoint First Quarter Fiscal 2022 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participant lines have been placed on listen-only mode, to prevent any background noise.

After the speakers’ remarks, there’ll be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. I will now turn to the call to Patrick Hamer, Vice President of Capital Markets and Investor Relations. Patrick, please go ahead..

Patrick Hamer Vice President of Capital Markets & Investor Relations

Good afternoon. And thank you for joining us on today’s conference call to discuss financial results for ChargePoint’s first quarter of fiscal 2022. I’m Patrick Hamer, Head of Capital Markets and Investor Relations at ChargePoint.

This call is being broadcast over the web and can be accessed on the investors section of our website, at investors.chargepoint.com..

Pasquale Romano

Thank you, Pat. Good afternoon, and thanks for joining our first quarter earnings call. Our strong results this quarter reflect our commitment to execution. As we continue to build on our established leadership position in EV charging.

Our exceptional charging technology built over 13 years and broad customer base positions ChargePoint to capitalize on the ongoing and accelerating shift to electric mobility. We are deep in execution. And next I’ll share the extent to which our team and operations are scaling to support the unprecedented pace of fueling infrastructure build out.

The ChargePoint team is now over 900 strong, we have attracted and engaged high caliber talent across North America and Europe and our productivity remains strong as we transitioned to predominantly virtual operations amidst the pandemic.

Our channel partners in North America and Europe help us reach more customers at a local level including distribution partners, value-added resellers and installation partners. In fact, we added 53 additional channel partners in Q1..

Rex Jackson

Thanks Pasquale and good afternoon, everyone. First, my comments are on non-GAAP. In our non-GAAP results we principally exclude stock-based compensation and the effect of the valuation of our preferred stock warrants. We reconcile to GAAP in our earnings release.

Second, after a quick review of our results, I will provide revenue estimates for Q2 and for the year. Third, consistent with our March call. And as you could see in our earnings release, we report revenue along three lines, network charging systems, subscriptions, and other. Network charging systems represent our network hardware.

Subscriptions include our cloud services, our sure warranties, and our ChargePoint as a service offerings where we bundle our solutions into a recurring subscription. Other includes energy credits, professional services, and certain non-material revenue streams.

Q1 revenue was $40.5 million up 24% year-over-year and slightly above the high end of our guidance range of $35 million to $40 million. Network charging systems revenue was up 36% year-over-year, as commercial began its recovery and fleet and residential posted strong results.

North American commercial outperformed our fourth quarter and encouraging signal from a return-to-work perspective. Subscription revenue was also up 20% from Q1 of last year. Now the revenue declined largely because of lower energy credit related revenue.

Billings by category for the first quarter were commercial 73%, fleet 12%, residential 11% and other 4%. Billings by percentage for the fourth quarter for commercials 68%, fleet 17%, residential 12% and other 3%. Fleet-added second-best billings quarter ever after a particularly strong Q4.

From a geographic perspective, Q1 revenue for North America was 91% and Europe was 9% compared to 96% and 4% respectively in Q1 of last year, demonstrating early returns on our continued investments in the European market.

Our subscription ChargePoint as the service offerings which yield ratable recurring revenue turned in the solid quarter growing 64% year-over-year. As Pasquale indicated, new customer acquisition was particularly strong and repeat customer business. A cornerstone of our strategy was in line at over 60% of total billings.

demonstrating the power of our land and expand model a small first purchases create sticky relationships and a significant repeat rate..

Pasquale Romano

Thanks, Rex. Based on these results is clear. We are focused on execution and we believe we are exceptionally well positioned as more fleet and passenger vehicles ship. To support that position, we have exciting R&D work on our way to continue delivering innovative products.

The ChargePoint we know that every charging port counts towards a more sustainable future. For analytics and reporting features make it easy for customers to understand and measure the environmental impact of their charging program. We are proud of our contribution as a company to mitigating climate change.

As we shared on Earth Day on April 22nd ChargePoint drivers had driven over 2.6 billion electric miles and avoided 107 million gallons the fossil fuels. Drivers on our network have avoided roughly 387,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions. We expect customers to increase their focus on the ESG benefits of EV charging going forward.

North American and European markets are more environmentally focused by the day. Commercial fleet and residential electrification is accelerating organically. This past quarter continues to demonstrate the ChargePoint growth scales with EV adoption.

We are an index for the electrification of mobility, a transition which we believe promises many years of growth ahead. We will now open the call to your questions..

Operator

Thank you very much. Our first question comes from Colin Rusch from Oppenheimer & Co. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Colin your line is open. Please go ahead. Colin you may be on mute, please unmute your line..

Colin Rusch

Guys, can you hear me, okay? Apologies for the trouble..

Pasquale Romano

Yes, we got you Colin..

Rex Jackson

Yes, Colin, we can hear you..

Colin Rusch

Okay. Perfect.

Hey, can you talk about the competitive dynamics with all the capital that’s been raised on the market and how you think about consolidation? As we see, all these appointments go out and potentially work or potentially not work?.

Pasquale Romano

Colin, could you clarify that with respected to….

Colin Rusch

Yes, I mean, so we’re expecting a bunch of your competitors to roll out some pretty healthy networks, and some of those business models may or may not survive.

So I’m wondering about how you think about navigating that environment where there’s a lot of capital going into the infrastructure, and preparing for potential consolidation in the space in defending your market share long away?.

Pasquale Romano

Well, I mean, we -- you know very well, we’ve developed a lot of our business models over a decade of real-world experience in the EV charging market. So we’re confident in our approach, we’re not frankly spending a whole lot of time pondering that particular question. We’re heads down and executing.

And if you look at the numbers that we’ve just reported for the quarter, we’re getting the results. We think that are commensurate with the model, with the model working, that we’ve been refining over a decade as I said. And with respect to capital coming in, this is a capital light model.

So the amount of capital that’s coming into different players in the market this doesn’t necessarily affect us. Because we’re not dependent on a capital heavy model.

In fact, I think capital heavy models definitely have a challenge in that there is that, that Governor so to speak on forward velocity based on the need for continued capital where we don’t have that..

Colin Rusch

Perfect, and then just around the supply chain, and how you guys are managing, some of the risks on that side.

Could you talk about any sort of safety stocks that you guys are keeping or feel like you need to keep potentially at this point? Or is it sort of environment where you’re able to get what you need and pass on any incremental expenses onto customers?.

Pasquale Romano

I’ll make some comments. And I’ll let Rex comment as well. We’ve obviously are watching that entire set of issues very, very, very closely. Our operations team is double down significantly and making sure that we’ve got good assurance of supply, we're working with our contract manufacturers to put in safeguards.

Nevertheless, we’re seeing issues inside the quarter as we execute, we've mitigated them. As you've seen in the results, we haven't reported any problems so far with the supply chain, hindering our performance.

And we're going to continue to put in the necessary mitigation mechanisms to guarantee that we've got part flow into our contract manufacturers to support our forecast..

Colin Rusch

Thank you so much..

Rex Jackson

I think if you look back on Q1, we had some impact due to supply chain, but it was immaterial and well mitigated, as Pat said, did cost us a little bit of expedite and other fees, we still managed to improve our gross margins sequentially. So that's good.

As we look forward to this quarter, we've taken what we know about supply chain into account and providing our guidance. And then as we look out into the second half of the year, which against our annual guidance implies the very, very nice growth numbers sequentially for Q3 and Q4. We're managing that very, very closely.

And so we don't have any conclusions on that yet, but we were definitely taking the things we see on the supply chain into account..

Colin Rusch

Okay, thanks so much guys. I really appreciate it..

Pasquale Romano

Thanks, Colin..

Operator

Thank you for your questions. Our next question comes from Shreyas Patil from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead, your line is open..

Shreyas Patil

Hey, thanks so much. So just wanted to ask about the full-year guidance. I mean we’ve seen really strong demand for EVs in the U.S. and Europe, U.S. sales are up 100% year-to-date, Europe is up something like 89% and you've talked about previously, how correlated the business is to the broader EV demand.

So just thinking about, if we do end up seeing stronger sales I mean is there anything, is there anything that we need to think about in terms of like either a lag effect or anything like that that would prevent that upside potential, if demand does come in stronger?.

Pasquale Romano

So we definitely believe that we were very nicely correlated to the availability of EVs, no question about that, as we look at the second half of the year from perspective, where we are today, as we said in our prepared remarks, we’re watching reopenings here and in Europe, there's always the possibility that goes really well.

There's also the possibility that something happens and you snap back because you can see what's happening in India, for example. So as we look out and then of course, there's a spike and chain thing that we just mentioned.

So we think it's prudent to be cautious now, I think we're going to be massively smarter in 90 days when we have our next call, because we'll have Q2 behind us and really good visibility into those external factors as we look at Q3 and Q4.

So I think it just made sense to confirm guidance this time, and then we'll take a really hard look at this for the Q3 -- Q2 call, excuse me..

Shreyas Patil

Okay, great. And then on the network gross margin. So look like you saw good improvement versus Q4. Look like it was up maybe 140 basis points and obviously up meaningfully year-over-year.

How should we think about the main drivers of margin improvement on the network side and where do you see margins eventually reaching?.

Pasquale Romano

So clearly, as we said in our prepared remarks, there is a meaningful mix component in our business.

So with the advent of the whole pandemic workplace has been, it's been solid that it hasn't had the growth that has had historically over the last X number of quarters, DCs perform, excuse me fleets performed very well, which includes DC, there's also fast bill and our home business is going extremely strongly over the last two quarters, those are on the lower end of the gross margin curve for us.

Individually, we don't give out gross margin by product, but we have to understand two guardrails, look we did have a good performance internally, I think this quarter, so the biggest drivers of gross margin are mix and then as we go up both the operational improvement curve, the cost reduction efforts to renewing our components, and then obviously growth and workplace and commercial, those are all very, very positive influences on gross margin, as we look out.

I still believe that we should be comfortably in the mid to high 30s. As we look out a couple three years from now. And I think we have steady improvements ahead of us for this year..

Shreyas Patil

Okay, great. And if I could just sneak one last one in, obviously you talked about fleet earlier in the call and it's something, we've seen a number of companies talking about the fleet charging opportunity and that even includes Ford, which talked about it last week at their Investor Day.

So trying to think about how, what are some of the areas that differentiate ChargePoint in the fleet space? And how you think about positioning there?.

Pasquale Romano

Well, I think there are two main drivers to our advantage in the fleet space first, we charge anything rolls. So there's no OEM specifics and our solution is completely OEM neutral. So also we're a very complete solution in the fleet space.

It's all encompassing a broad product line on the software side, in both the charger control, the energy management and the vehicle scheduling, as well as a full complementary line of harbor products of all the different speeds in fleets necessary to adequately service fleet customer, most fleets have a good mix of vehicle types and vehicle sizes and vehicle charging needs.

And we can do that all with one solution. So we're real bullish on our fleet products and we're not sitting still either. There's a tremendous amount going into R&D there..

Shreyas Patil

Okay, great. Thanks so much..

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Cowen. Please go ahead, your line is open..

Unidentified Analyst

Hey, afternoon guys, I was wondering if you can maybe give us a little color around R&D spend on a run rate basis of $25 million in this quarter? How does that trend as we move throughout the balance of this year?.

Pasquale Romano

So I would answer that both on R&D and more broadly, we are definitely looking at the trends in the market right now and where we think investments need to go to take advantage of higher vehicle availability, not only in the passenger, but in the fleet space.

So we've made an affirmative decision of the company to put additional energy behind our efforts. So it has gone up. And I would expect our FX, OpEx generally to trend a little north this year. And again, it's because we've got a lot of product introductions that we want to do in the not too distant future.

There's a lot of customer support that touches both R&D and operations and customer support.

The sales and marketing side were going heavier there generally and particularly in Europe, because our land and expand model just proves itself every quarter with the customer additions we showed this quarter, and also a very consistent 60 plus percent organic rebuy business.

So as we look at the environment externally and given the fact that we have the scale we have already, it just makes all the sense in the world to us to put energy behind this, what you'll see longer-term is that our operating expenses as percentage of revenue will trend down but on in the very short run from a dollars perspective, I expect it to trend up..

Unidentified Analyst

Thanks for the color, it’s helpful and then I guess. Got it, got it. Okay, that’s helpful. And then as a follow-up, you kind of hit on it. But last quarter you'd also mentioned the potential rollout of a new product offering focus on Europe.

Is there any update there, anything you could talk to around that?.

Pasquale Romano

No, just stay tuned for general product updates in the future, and the minute, the minute, we're ready to announce them, you'll be one of the first..

Unidentified Analyst

Great, okay, thanks guys..

Pasquale Romano

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Craig Irwin from ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Craig Irwin

Hi, good evening. I wanted to ask a little bit about the DC fast charging products.

Can you maybe update us on the margin plan there, where you are as far as your longer-term plan for increasing margins? Do we need to see some of these product introductions for fleets and other markets for you to meet your longer-term target set?.

Patrick Hamer Vice President of Capital Markets & Investor Relations

So as Rex mentioned, we talked about the particulars of gross margin by product, we don't break that out. What I can say is that the quarter saw this past quarter saw some great work and margin improvements specifically on the existing product line.

So to your question, are we waiting for a breakthrough on a new product line or are we continuing to make improvements on the existing product line as it matures? It's definitely the latter. We're seeing plan as we execute margin improvements and not just in the fast charge products, but across the board.

I'll repeat one point that Rex made because I think it's I think it's pretty indicative. We've improved the margin quarter-over-quarter as Rex mentioned, and that was in the face of having to expand a little bit more on COGS because of some of the supply chain mitigations we had to put in place.

So we outperformed and only had that outperformance dragged down a little but not -- but still outperformed. It was only dragged down a little by the mitigation costs on a supply chain. So we're comfortable..

Craig Irwin

Okay, so most investors really want to pick through the margin discussion fairly -- in a fairly detailed manner.

So one of the things that has been said in the past is that the mix of products into the end of the year and obviously the revenue are a large part of the expectations for a strong margin rebound, particularly as back to work gets commercial market really moving again, I understand those are your highest margin products.

Can you maybe walk us through what we should be looking at there to see something in the 30% or 30% plus range is achievable as we exit your fiscal year?.

Pasquale Romano

That sounds a lot like a question for annual gross margin guidance. But what I can tell you is take it to amplify one thing that Pat said, we really had some very, very good improvements this past quarter across the board, and particularly in a couple of places where it was very impactful and very much needed.

I think if you look at this in the second half of the year clearly, if we get back to work, and the mix starts to shift back to a more normalized mix for the company, that's going to have a very positive impact on the resulting gross margin. I would say with that, interestingly enough, we think commercials should come back.

But that doesn't mean that the other products are going to roll-off. So we're not, we feel like the trend is for those, the part of the business, it’s supply on the lower margin side is going to continue.

But net-net, I feel very good about continued improvement in gross margin throughout the balance of this year, I hesitate to call a number at the end of the year, just because that was the guidance..

Craig Irwin

Understood, and last question, if I may put this one in. So you guys are doing exactly what you said you do executing well, within North America and Europe. You've got fleets handled, you've got a roadmap with new products, that's expected.

Many of the past IPOs are looking at the competitive environment and trying to pull forward the opportunity probably the biggest opportunity for ChargePoint would be Europe and the new products for Europe and the more aggressive market position there.

Is there a possibility we could see ChargePoint take a more aggressive stance as far as expansion in Europe or are you moving at a measured grade based on pre-existing plan to ensure no unforeseen challenges?.

Pasquale Romano

Yes, I mean I think philosophically, we've been actually in an aggressive posture with respect to our investment in Europe for quite some time now, because we believe in the geography as being incredibly, incredibly relevant for us globally. So I don't think we need to change our posture there.

But again, I don't think that's not an indication that we’re not being aggressive already, I think we're being adequately aggressive, right, any other comments?.

Rex Jackson

Yes, the only other thing I would add is we have in effect doubled, almost doubled our headcount in Europe over the last two, three quarters. And we're not finished with the hiring plan that we have there for this year. So we're really putting a lot of players in field.

One of the things I said internally is, from a headcount perspective and a reach perspective in Europe, we're one of the largest companies in our space in Europe, when it comes to the number of people that we have, attacking that market.

And that doesn't count any of the incredibly long-list of things that they get from our operations in North America. So it's an extension, and yet it's still larger. So I think our coverage there is improved markedly and will be a competitive advantage. And I think the things that we've done on the roaming front are excellent.

Our focus on network and software, we think is the right strategy. And then obviously, as you referenced, there's a lot of additional solutions that we'll be providing attached to that over the next several quarters..

Pasquale Romano

And one more thing to note, which I think is a significant issue. Think through your modeling is this scale, achieving global scale helps tremendously in gross margin. So our scale in North America on a market share basis is great, but it's an overall still, relatively small unit volume market as compared to where it's going.

As that continues and as there's cross regional product line leverage in supply chain and support operations and other elements of gross margin, we should see an advantage there if we can execute on the vision which is to be significant in Europe, significant in fleet and significant in our North American commercial business..

Craig Irwin

So a point of clarification right significance in the North American business, 70% plus share of the network 10 points, is that a logical goal for you to face in Europe, is that something that the level of investment is sufficient or you'd be happy with a much lower share?.

Pasquale Romano

So when we look out with our financial lens over a multi-year period, and I'm not going to put a number to that, but our assumptions are that we get comfortably into the 20s in Europe, I'd like to do better than that. But there's not a North America style assumption in how we view our financials over the next several years..

Rex Jackson

And that's perfect color. That’s pure plain conservatism on our point..

Craig Irwin

Understood, thank you, Rex. Thank you, Pasquale..

Rex Jackson

Thank you..

Pasquale Romano

Thanks..

Operator

Thank you for your question. We have a question from Itay Michaeli from Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Itay Michaeli

Great. Thanks, everybody. Good afternoon. I apologize if I missed this, I did joined the call a little bit late. But in terms of the revenue in a quarter, I was hoping you can just mention the contribution from new customers versus existing customers.

And you're trying to think about kind of the land and expand model and kind of the evidence, you're seeing that kind of playing out in your revenue in terms of customers, I've been with you for longer versus new customers, and how that that kind of seasoning is progressing..

Rex Jackson

Sure, Itay, it’s Rex. Happy to help you there. So Q1 revenue was $40.5 million. One of the things that we’re super pleased about this quarter, there were a lot of them. But super pleased about was the customer additions that we had this quarter were remarkable.

To say that, it was an up tick from last quarter would be an understatement but useful to give you percentages, but it was a super strong customer in terms of new customer acquisition.

And then the thing that has been remarkably consistent over every quarter that I've looked at over the last three years is about 60% of our business comes from existing customers, it's a rebuy.

So the land and expand thing, if you nailed it, it is literally the cornerstone of the company and is one of the reasons why I've said, we do want to continue with the investments in particular for example, in sales and marketing because it’s a hell of a lot easier to keep a customer than it is to get one.

So we're putting an enormous amount of energy into customer acquisition, because it just pays down the road..

Itay Michaeli

Other than new customers, I find that the onboarding process is happening, even faster, I think is typically my understanding is it's a sort of a few months process, but just given what's happening with EV, are you seeing that process even go quickly or maybe in other words, it was customer adds better than what you had internally expected?.

Pasquale Romano

Can you clarify what you mean by onboarding, is that or is that timing pipeline?.

Itay Michaeli

A timing pipeline..

Pasquale Romano

Do you want to take that?.

Patrick Hamer Vice President of Capital Markets & Investor Relations

So first of all, the nice thing about the land and expand thing that we just discussed is a lot of that, all that is really fast turn business. Sometimes you see it coming, sometimes you don't. But that's pretty fast turn, if it's a brand new customer, I think our sales, sales process lasts anywhere from getting a phone call up to about six months.

And it just depends on what the process looks like on the other side. I do think it's trending down and getting quicker. But it really depends on the situation with the customer and the size of what they want to install and the necessary understanding what they make ready and other things that would be necessary in order to put in the solutions.

So I don't know if that answers your questions. But I would say it's anywhere from a month to outside six months and it's getting shorter..

Itay Michaeli

Yes, that's very helpful.

And just lastly as a point of clarification for the Q2 revenue guidance, should we assume that that the revenue mix in Q2 is pretty similar to what you experienced in Q1 in terms of DC and residential?.

Pasquale Romano

That's a tough one. But I would expect it to be a little better on the commercial side than it was in Q1..

Itay Michaeli

Great, that’s all very helpful..

Pasquale Romano

Thank you because we had a really nice year-over-year resurgence in North America commercial and then we had a great quarter in Europe, generally. So I think the reopening and people getting back to work and the whole recovery of the commercial side has really nice signs in Q1 and I would expect that to continue in future..

Itay Michaeli

Great, that's very helpful. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you for your question. It appears we have no further questions from the audience. So I'll hand back over to the management team for any closing remarks..

Pasquale Romano

First of all, thanks. Thanks for attending everyone, and thank you for all the thoughtful questions. To summarize, I think some of the points that Rex and I made in the prepared remarks, we’re heavily focused on execution right now.

We're very pleased with the results across all our lines of business and we're well positioned to execute on the long-term growth plans. So really look forward to the next earnings call with all of you and have a wonderful afternoon. Thanks everyone..

Rex Jackson

Thank you..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for the management team for joining. You may now disconnect your lines..

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