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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q3
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the BrightSphere Investment Group Earnings Conference Call and Webcast for the Third Quarter 2021. During the call, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the presentation, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session.

Please note, that this call is being recorded today, Thursday, October 28, 2021, at 11 A.M. Eastern Time. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Elie Sugarman, Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Elie..

Elie Sugarman

Good morning and welcome to BrightSphere's conference call to discuss our results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2021. Before we get started, please note that we may make forward-looking statements about our business and financial performance.

Each forward-looking statement is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected.

Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears in our SEC filings including the Form 8-K filed today containing the earnings release, our 2020 Form 10-K and our Form 10-Q for each of the first and second quarters of 2021.

Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today and we undertake no obligation to update them as a result of new information or future events. We may also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures.

Information about any non-GAAP measures referenced, including a reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures can be found on our website along with the slides that we will use as part of today's discussion. Finally, nothing herein shall be deemed to be an offer or solicitation to buy any investment products.

Suren Rana, our President and Chief Executive Officer, will lead the call. And now, I'm pleased to turn the call over to Suren.

Suren?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

one, specific talent comprising people with PhDs and other advanced degrees in finance and technology; two, our unique data, comprising $200 million observations daily across 43,000 traded assets around the globe; and three, our advanced technology platform that allows us to leverage our academic research and data across asset classes and geographies.

We have deep capability across long-only, long-short, multi-asset class, managed volatility, ESG and other areas with our AUM spread across more than 70 different strategies. And I will also note that approximately 80% of our AUM is invested outside the U.S. On Slide 9, revisiting investment performance again in a bit more detail.

You can see that Acadian platform has outperformed across long and short periods with 81% to 89% of strategies by revenue outperforming their benchmarks. I would also like to spend a minute on Slide 13, summarizing our growth strategy. Our growth strategy going forward is primarily organic.

There's a growing demand for a majority of our strategies and solutions and our offerings have capacity and are scalable. We will continue to leverage our quant platform to provide solutions sought by our clients as their needs evolve. Our multi-asset class offering is an example of that.

Our clients expressed the need for a factor-based solution covering multiple asset classes beyond just equity.

The growing demand for ESG solutions is another example of a market opportunity that is particularly sought through our capabilities, since we can really methodically quantify the various ESG factors or any given security as well as the impact on returns with a lot more precision than others could.

So, we will continue to see new products and invest in innovation. We will continue to invest in our technology to remain on the cutting edge. And we will continue to add to our distribution as our needs evolve. And we will always continue to look for all the various ways to realize additional value for our shareholders.

On that note, now let me turn the call back to the operator and we're happy to answer questions at this point..

Operator

We'll take our first question from Kenneth Lee with RBC Capital Markets..

Kenneth Lee

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just one on -- in terms of the mechanics of the share repurchases in the fourth quarter. It is a significant amount of shares.

Wondering if you're thinking about either a tender offer or an accelerated share repurchase?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Ken, yes, as you alluded, given just the size, particularly relative to our market cap, it's probably -- tender offer is probably the only option as most other options take a long amount of time..

Kenneth Lee

Got you, very helpful. And then, just one on -- within the Acadian franchise. I really appreciate the further breakdown and the overview of the business.

It sounds like you have a very broad set of strategies there which -- are there any particular strategies that you're particularly excited about? And which ones potentially had the best growth prospects in the current environment?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Thanks, Ken. Yes, I guess, the advantage of having a good number of solid strategy is essentially that diversification, right? That there's always -- so there are always some strategies that are in high demand in any environment and there are some strategies maybe that are not as much in demand.

So diversification provides that benefit that you always have something to sell. In the current environment, we are seeing a lot of demand for some of our scaled strategies, emerging markets, for example, international equity. And we're also seeing demand for some of the new products that we have developed more recently, that we mentioned.

Multi-asset class, for example, that continues to get good traction because it provides exposure across asset classes in a very factor-driven quantitative way which is not -- which is a little bit of a unique capability.

And we continue to develop other products on ESG theme, for example, that we are very excited about, as I touched earlier during my introductory remarks. We have equity alternatives and the derivatives of that in terms of multi strategy.

So we said there are a lot of earlier-stage strategies that are smaller right now but we are very excited about them from the perspective of future growth. And then we have scaled strategies, some of whom -- I guess it's a tag that any given quarter or any given period, some are always in demand..

Kenneth Lee

Great, very helpful. Thanks, again..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Thank you, Ken..

Operator

Next, we'll go to David Eller with Wells Fargo..

David Eller

Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I'm kind of new to the story. You've done a lot of work over the last year to reposition the business. You've done a pretty good job getting fairly attractive valuations for the businesses you've sold.

So I wondered if you could talk a little bit about why the large share repurchase makes the most sense versus maybe taking a look at other asset management platforms or seeding kind of new and emerging managers.

And then, kind of related question; was Acadian shopped as well? Do you think it would make sense in the hands of another owner? Would that be a better way to create value for shareholders?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

David, yes, there's a lot to unpack there. So maybe let me start with the first one that -- yes, we've definitely taken a lot of steps over the last 1.5 years to simplify our business and unlock value. The first of which was just really -- we used to be a U.K. company. And some folks who covered us from before, you may remember, we redomiciled.

We used to be heavy on corporate overhead to reduce that. And then, we have a lot of these businesses that were highly valued in the private markets but we weren't getting enough credit for those businesses in the public markets. And there was -- there were good homes for those teams and those clients were well served with bigger organizations.

So we moved ahead on that now. We have passed forward six of our seven affiliates with other homes which are win-win situations. And yes, we got attractive valuations for most of those businesses, including some businesses that, at the time, were seeing a lot of outflows. In most cases, we've got more than eight to -- more than 8x EBITDA.

In some cases, double-digit EBIT to EBITDA. And then we ended up with a lot of cash on our balance sheet. So as we look at using this cash on the balance sheet, we have been in the M&A game, of course, having been a multi-boutique in the past and we've continued to look at various targets. Most of the time, the valuation was really high.

Even for half decent platforms, it was 9x or 10x EBIT to EBITDA. And for the ones that had growth, it was in double-digit EBIT to EBITDA. So as you look at where to use the capital, we are trading our own business at an EBIT to EBITDA with a fixed handle.

And our business is very well positioned, as I touched on earlier, in terms of being a unique, differentiated business and having all the growth opportunities ahead of it. So rather than paying 9x or 10x EBITDA for a business and take on execution risk, we would rather just buy-in our own stock.

It's just much smarter and lower risk investment for us as a part of the proceeds that still delever and just manage an optimal leverage. So, that's how we went about our decision. That's just a bit of a no-brainer in terms of what our own business is, where it's trading compared to the M&A opportunities.

I'm not sure if I answered all of your questions but please repeat it if I miss something..

David Eller

Yes. No, you covered most of it. Obviously, you're much smaller scale now. You mentioned kind of the overhead costs and trying to get those down.

But do you -- when you look at the business today and the overhead costs required to kind of manage Acadian, do you think it would be more efficient for a different owner that could realize pretty good valuation for your own shareholders but also kind of benefit from the synergies of a larger owner?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. No, we have always been very shareholder value-focused as those are the people on the phone who know us for some time now. So we will always be receptive to anything that provides greater value to our shareholders. And we are fortunate that we have very unique and differentiated capabilities. So if that might happen, we'll be receptive to it.

And now having simplified our business, we have a scale business at the operating level and then we have some -- so we still have some overheads. We reduced a lot of what we used to call center overheads; now it's about $20 million.

We think now that with just one business, simplified business, we can probably maybe bring down the $20 million to $10 million pretty quickly. And then maybe because the business is pretty scaled, the remaining $10 million can also, over time -- we can whittle that down.

Now in the context of another scaled player who leads these capabilities taking on the business, then, of course, the entire $20 million is not needed because most of it is in support of public company reporting. So there is -- yes, there is a little bit of overhead which we view as an opportunity.

So we really view the operating EBITDA which I touched on as $50-ish million -- $50 million to $53 million per quarter, we really view that as a core EBITDA..

David Eller

Got it. That's super helpful. Thanks for all the color..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Thank you..

Operator

Next, we'll go to Michael Cyprys with Morgan Stanley..

Michael Cyprys

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to circle back to your comment around the buyback and that more likely being a tender. And so I'm like, I was hoping you could maybe unpack how a tender process would work.

What are the sort of different steps and time frame around how that process might unfold?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. And as we've mentioned, Mike, that we expect this to be a Q4 event. So -- and we're working through the details. So we should be coming out with the details soon. But it's -- essentially given the size we've mentioned, it's -- that's sort of more of a known. And the rest of it is pretty, I think, standard, pretty typical for how normal tenders go.

So we will be coming out with a full package in the near term..

Michael Cyprys

And would your expectation be that the existing large shareholder that you have would participate? Or any sense there on how that would work out? Because if they don't participate then that large shareholder could end up owning like half the company. And is that their intention? Just any thoughts there..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. We don't know, I believe, if they would or would not participate. But we do understand that their intention is not to increase their stake beyond the current near -- close to 25% stake that they have. So it is the expectation that their stake will not be increasing..

Michael Cyprys

Got it. And if I could just sneak one more in here.

Just as you think about buybacks here that you kind of came out with, just curious what led you to buybacks over a special dividend? What factors led you to consider that? And what would you -- have led you the other way toward a special dividend?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. I guess in part, as I mentioned in response to David's question earlier, right, that we always look at -- for every dollar of capital, we always look at all the possible uses and what could be more accretive than something else. So acquisitions were clearly not holding up well versus buying our own stock.

Then of course, a part of the proceeds that are being used to reduce leverage which we think is also prudent. And then, with regards to the return of capital, the dividend versus buying back the stock.

Of course, where we are trading is a key factor that given in our own experience, the businesses that we have divested, we got what we believe to be a reasonable valuation. But of course, compared to where we trade for a business that was sort of our crown jewel, we believe that we are undervalued. So it's a good investment from that perspective.

Also dividends for a good number of shareholders, we had received feedback that wasn't tax efficient for a lot of our investors..

Michael Cyprys

Great. Thanks, Suren. I'll get back in queue..

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Suren Rana for any additional or closing remarks..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Thank you.

I thought Mike Cyprys mentioned he was getting back in the queue?.

Operator

And we'll take Mike Cyprys..

Michael Cyprys

Oh, great. Thanks for squeezing me back in here. Thank you. Just coming back to your comments around the expense efficiencies at the center. I think you had mentioned the $20 million of center costs going down to $10 million. I was hoping you might be able to elaborate a little bit more on just what are the biggest items that are sort of impacting that.

It sounds like it's coming out pretty quickly.

So just any help as we think about the guidance on the expense side into 2022 into next year? Should we be thinking about the similar sort of operating expense efficiency range into next year? Or no, because of the expense saves coming through? Just any help there on the different guidance items that you've given already for this year.

How does that sort of progress into next year?.

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. I guess, as you would expect, when we had more than one affiliate, then there were some overlapping functions that were needed. But now it's just really one business and it's really an integrated business at this point and continuing to be more integrated.

So there is some overlap, particularly on the holdco executive side which is probably where more of it is and then some overlap in other functions. But of course, much less overlap in public company reporting related areas like finance and legal because those are the things that the operating business did not have.

So that would represent the remaining $10 million. But the business, Acadian, is a very scaled business. As I mentioned, with fully built back office and investor reporting. So over time that can probably absorb the public company reporting responsibility as well.

So that's where we think that -- the remaining $10 million probably would not be coming out in one year, it'll maybe take a bit longer than that. But the first $10 million is relatively easier..

Michael Cyprys

And then, any help on the expense-related ratios as we kind of roll forward into next year just from looking at the run rate that we put up so far here in the third quarter as we go into the fourth quarter and next year? Just any help on how those might progress..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Yes. I guess what we have for the full year 2021 is a little bit of -- there was some noise in there in terms of affiliates that have been sold and now won't be impacting that any more. But we'll provide guidance on that in due course; I don't have it that off hand..

Michael Cyprys

Okay, great. Thanks so much for taking my questions..

Operator

And that does conclude today's Q&A session. I'll turn the call back over to Suren Rana for any additional or closing remarks..

Suren Rana Chief Executive Officer, President & Director

Thank you. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We are excited about being a really simple business now, cleaning up our balance sheet and really focusing on organic growth going forward. We look forward to engaging with you as we execute. Thank you..

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