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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2016 - Q2
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Executives

Stacy Slater - SVP, IR Jim Taylor - CEO and President Angela Aman - CFO Mark Horgan - EVP and CIO Brian Finnegan - EVP, Leasing.

Analysts

Christy McElroy - Citi Craig Schmidt - Bank of America Todd Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Jeffrey Donnelly - Wells Fargo Jeremy Metz - UBS Alexander Goldfarb - Sandler O'Neill Ki Bin Kim - SunTrust Jason White - Green Street Advisors Steve Sakwa - Evercore ISI Handleson Justy - Mizuho Vincent Chao - Deutsche Bank Michael Mueller - JPMorgan Rich Moore - RBC Capital Markets Linda Tsai - Barclays Michael Bilerman - Citi.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Brixmor Property Group Inc. Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Stacy Slater. Please go ahead ma'am..

Stacy Slater Senior Vice President of Investor Relations & Capital Markets

Thank you, Operator. And thank you all for joining Brixmor's second quarter conference call.

With me on the call today are Jim Taylor, Chief Executive Officer and President; and Angela Aman, Chief Financial Officer, as well as Mark Horgan, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer and Brian Finnegan, Executive Vice President, Leasing who will be available for Q&A.

Before we begin, let me remind everyone that some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are based on certain assumptions and are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings and actual future results may differ materially. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.

Also we will refer today to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Further information regarding our use of these measures and reconciliations of these measures to our GAAP results are available in the earnings release and supplemental disclosure on the Investor Relations portion of our website.

Given the number of participants on the call, we kindly ask that you limit your questions to one or two per person. If you have additional questions regarding the quarter, please re-queue. At this time, it’s my pleasure to introduce Jim Taylor..

Jim Taylor

Thank you, Stacy, and good morning, everyone. I'm very pleased with the operational results delivered by our team during this my first quarter at the helm and a quarter of transition in the C-suite.

I will cover our operational results in a bit more detail, provide some operations from my first 70 days, and further discuss the significant opportunities I see for the company going forward.

I will then turn the call over to Angela, who will provide additional insight into our financial results, discuss the progress we have made towards our balance sheet goals, and cover our outlook for the balance of the year.

Prior to beginning the prepared remarks however, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Board for its leadership during this transition period and particular Dan and Barry for stepping into the breach and facilitating such a smooth transition.

I'm extremely grateful for their contributions and the running start they gave Angela, Mark and me to build upon what I believe is an incredibly strong foundation..

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Speaking of results, our bottomline FFO was $0.50 a share represents growth of nearly 10% over the prior year when you adjust for non-cash and non-comparable item such as the executive severance and the acceleration of interim compensation this quarter.

That bottomline growth is far above the trend for our sector and it's particularly impressive when you consider that it’s primarily driven by improving rate and occupancy in the overall portfolio versus redevelopment.

I believe that there is significant opportunity to grow redevelopment with what we own and control today, which I will cover in a minute but first allow me to cover what happened in the quarter.

Our leasing and operation's team again delivered in terms of production with 467 new and renewal leases signed representing over 2 million square feet at an average rent of $15.68 per foot. On a comparable cash basis this is nearly 16% higher than the prior in place rent.

While our peers have yet to report, I would wager that those results are the top of our sector in terms of absolute productivity. This production was strong across all regions of the company and reflects the focus, commitment to driving both the rent and occupancy.

Importantly, we saw strong rent rate gains in small shop rents which averaged 19.4% for new leases and 14% for renewals excluding option. Our anchor rollover averaged 31.4% for new leases and 9.4% for renewals again excluding options.

This productivity also drove meaningful increases at occupancy with overall occupancy up 30 basis points year-over-year and small shop occupancy importantly up 60 basis points.

While it is particularly noteworthy that our team drove this occupancy increase despite over 1.3 million square feet or nearly 150 basis points of occupancy drag due to proactive recapture of anchors. As you may recall, that company recaptured 10 AMP in Kmart boxes representing nearly 700,000 square feet of space in just the last 18 months or so.

As of the second quarter, we have successfully backfilled 62% of that space at a rental rate increase of 118% more than double the prior rents. That may truly highlight the productivity of our leasing team and also the embedded mark in many of our centers.

The sports authority closure that’s received a lot of press also represents an opportunity for us where we have five locations that we have or we’ll get back representing 200,000 square feet at an average rent of approximately $10 per square foot.

Our sixth location Mansell Crossing, we were outfitted at auction by a tenant which should improve our remaining opportunities that that center from a merchandising perspective.

While we expect a short-term occupancy drag of 25 basis points, the sports authority boxes are in strong desirable markets with a long-term opportunity to drive higher rents with more productive retailers.

In addition to driving impressive productivity, we also executed several important deals from a merchandising perspective, that continue to drive the relevance of our centers to the communities they serve and the corresponding ability to drive growth. This important merchandising wins included deals with Nordstrom Rack, J.

Crew Mercantile, Trader Joe's, Restoration Hardware outlet and Orchard Supply. From a redevelopment and repositioning standpoint, our construction and development teams continue to deliver as well on-time and on-budget.

This quarter we delivered five repositioning projects for total cost of$ 6 million at above the 20% return and we achieved six additional projects for another $6 million of investment and expect the return of over 16%.

These transactions are strategic importance to the company not only in terms of driving incremental returns within the four walls of the spaces reposition, they also set us up for growth in the balance of the center's impact.

In fact the company has historically realized almost 400 basis points, a small shop occupancy growth where new anchor was put in place in the prior 24 months. Now I’ve had the opportunity to see many of these in process projects.

On my trip to Chicago I saw the newly delivered pad building at Tinley Park, which will stabilize above the 12 return on cost next quarter and importantly cleans up our front door and sets us up well to produce – pursue additional lease up at that well located and productive center.

In Dallas, I saw construction well underway at Barton Place of our new WinCo grocer, a leading regional player whose stores scheduled to open in early 2017.At Maple Village and Ann Arbor Michigan, one of our Kmart projects I saw construction on track, as well as the positive momentum driven by a recent deal - excuse me - deals with Sierra Trading Post, HomeGoods and Stein Mart.

Our progress there sets us up very well for the second phase. At the shops at Riverhead our development project at the gateway to the Hamptons on Long Island we announced last quarter deals with HomeGoods and Marshalls and expect shortly to announce an additional three leases with best-in-class national retailers.

All this is great and while we are making good progress on the projects underway, simply put we need to do much, much more. I’ve spent significant time in my first 70 days touring assets and submarkets, visiting over 120 of our properties in the North Midwest and Texas.

Importantly, I've had the opportunity to meet with our leasing and operation teams in the field, see the assets through their eyes and make up informed assessments about the quality of our people and the potential of our real estate. In short, I am very enthusiastic about both.

I also have had the time while in market to meet with many of our key tenants such as T.J. Maxx, Ulta, Kroger, Targets, Sprouts, Ross, Party, Arlington and many more. Importantly our leasing teams have great access and relationships with these accounts.

And equally if not more importantly these tenants continue to thrive and have robust growth plans that align with our assets and markets. But you know what struck me most is the breadth of late in opportunity in the assets themselves.

The value add projects announced to-date have really only just begun to tap into what I see as unrivaled potential to drive outstanding risk-adjusted returns through investing in these assets.

Significant potential projects like 163rd in North Miami, Roosevelt Mall in Philadelphia, Mira Mesa Mall in San Diego California, and the Village of Newtown in Bucks County are complemented by dozens of smaller but significant value creation projects like Marlton Crossing in Marlton New Jersey, Devonshire Place in Cary North Carolina, Chicago Ridge in Chicago Illinois and Sagamore, Sagamore Park in West Lafayette Indiana.

As a company we just plainly need to more diligently execute on these embedded opportunities while appropriately balancing productivity and occupancy target with setting up long-term outperformers.

Expect this on future calls to provide more definition around the scope of this reinvestment pipeline and it's ability on our impact to drive long-term growth, as we get to work setting up these additional opportunities and converting them from shadow pipeline to actual projects.

But suffice it to say for now that I'm very, very excited about the potential that exists in the assets that we own and control today that drive great returns. Just as I expected to be at more active redevelopers of our assets, I also expect us to be more aggressive and opportunistic in recycling capital.

Those decisions will may - be made on an asset-by-asset and submarket-by-submarket basis recognizing one that the decision to hold an asset is an investment decision. And two over the long term I believe strongly that critical mass and a submarket or retail node will drive outperformance. We currently in fact have 90 assets in single asset markets.

Some of these markets may provide attractive opportunities for us for growth through additional acquisition and others we will exit. I'm particularly excited to have Mark Horgan and his wealth of transaction experience leading this effort.

Now I know that many of you will be seeking specific target volumes for modeling purposes, I expect that I may disappoint you in this regard. While I fully expect our volume of capital recycling to increase, please be mindful of two points. First, as you would expect our capital allocation decisions will be driven by return goals versus volumes.

Second, as you would also expect I always want to retain the flexibility to be opportunistic. There simply is no need for higher sales in this portfolio, just as there is no blind ambition in this team to chase metrics such as ABR where the returns are not justified.

Of course, our future guidance will reflect our best judgment as to the impact of capital recycling just as well leasing and redevelopment and other investment activity. And that guidance will be updated as we execute activity with third-party buyers and sellers.

So let me leave you with one thought, I'm very excited to have a business plan that stands apart from all those that are chasing the same tenure submarkets. It takes a long time and involves a lot of risk to grow a 4% cap rate to a 6. I also believe that our plans should have more embedded growth opportunity and what we already own and control today.

Let me close with a few thoughts on the organization. As I’ve mentioned I've been very pleased with the quality of the people on the Brixmor team. I would place many of them at the top of the industry in terms of their specific roles.

With that said, I fully expect to invest an additional talent in certain areas while also reallocating resources away from others. It's premature for me to comment much more on that at this point, but I would expect that such decisions would be neutral to our run rate G&A although they might incur transition costs.

As I wrote the team of Brixmor at the start, we are building a market leader on the base of a very solid foundation. I truly cannot be more excited about the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Angela to review our financial results and then we’ll turn the call over for questions..

Angela Aman

Great. Thanks, Jim and good morning.

Before revealing our financial performance and Capital Market’s activities during the quarter, I’d like to take the opportunity to say that I'm very excited to be part of the Brixmor's team and extremely appreciative of the welcome I have received particularly from the accounting and finance group over the last couple of months.

We as a management team are committed to providing best-in-class disclosure and transparency to the investment community. And since joining the company, I've been working closely with the team to review our policies and procedures as it relates to accounting, financial reporting and our internal control environment.

Our efforts have also included significant focus on our non-GAAP financial and operational metrics. Our conclusion to banking system with those at the interim management team but the methodology being employed by the company is appropriate.

And as you would expect we have also continued to enhance the structure around our process for reporting non-GAAP metrics and ensure that our public disclosures around these metrics are as clear and transparent as possible.

FFO for the second quarter was $153 million or $0.50 per share and was impacted by approximately $5 million of severance and executive equity-based compensation expense, as well as $5 million of lower non-cash income relative to the second quarter of last year.

Adjusting for these and other items that impact FFO comparability, FFO per share grew 9.6% during the second quarter demonstrating the progress of the company continues to make with respect to harvesting the mark-to-market opportunity embedded in the portfolio, as well as the progress being made on reducing the company's weighted average interest rate.

Same property NOI growth for the second quarter was 3.5%, primarily driven by growth in base rent which contributed 270 basis points at same property growth during the quarter. Net recoveries, provisions for doubtful accounts and percentage rents were also positive contributor and were offset by a decrease in ancillary and other income.

The growth in net recoveries during the second quarter reflects both the substantial completion of the company's annual CAM and tax reconciliation processes, as well as significant tax rebates recognized during the quarter.

While the decrease in ancillary and other income reflects several non-recurring items that were recognized in the second quarter of 2015. Looking forward, we expect that the pace of same property NOI growth will moderate in the third quarter before accelerating again in the fourth quarter.

Our seven leases of Hancock Fabrics and two of our leases with Sports Authority were rejected in bankruptcy at the end of June while we expect three additional sports authority leases to be rejected at the end of July.

In addition, the timing of percentage rent due to the change in accounting method enacted in the fourth quarter of 2015 will likely have an impact on the third quarter same property growth rate. With respect to our balance sheet we were very pleased to announce last night the amendment of our $2.75 billion unsecured credit facility.

We have received over $4 billion of commitment for the recast and I would like to take a moment to acknowledge the exceptional support and commitment we have received from our bank group. The recast of the facility allowed us to both improve pricing and increase the duration of the facility, extending the maturity on the revolver from 2017 to 2020.

We are also extending the maturity on $500 million of the $1.5 billion term loan from 2018 to 2021.

We are committed to an unsecured strategy and the recast in conjunction with the $600 million bond issuance in early June has allowed us to advance our primary balance sheet objective of creating a more balanced forward maturity profile and improving our weighted average maturity, while also continuing to unencumbered the portfolio.

We now have ample capacity and financial flexibility to address our secured debt maturities through the end of 2017 and we are well positioned to be opportunistic with respect to future capital raises.

As it relates to guidance, last night we narrowed our FFO expectation from a range of 201 to 209 to a range of 203 to 206, reflecting higher G&A guidance primarily due to the severance and equity compensation items in the second quarter and lower non-cash income. Our same property NOI growth assumption of 2.5% to 3.5% was maintained.

Despite the fact that the majority of income recognized from Circuit City in the first quarter was not included in same property NOI as was originally anticipated in guidance.

This has acted as a headwind to the same store NOI range of approximately 60 basis points for the full year, with stronger portfolio performance has offset allowing us to maintain the range. It's important to note that our revised guidance does not include any expectations of additional one-time items in the second half of the year.

And with that, I'll turn it over for questions.

Operator?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Christy McElroy with Citi..

Christy McElroy

Good morning. Angela, I know you mentioned you expect to remain opportunistic on the capital markets front. But just in terms of expectations for activities through year-end, I wonder if you could talk about specifically the likelihood of the second bond offering. And you do have an ATM in place.

How are you thinking about leverage today, and under what circumstances would you consider using it?.

Angela Aman

Good morning, Christy. Thanks for the question. As it relates to activity in the back half of the year, I do think that the activities we've taken just over the last couple of months position us very well to be opportunistic as it relates to further capital raising.

Today we sit with an undrawn revolver and plenty of capacity to address all of the remaining secured debt maturities through the end of 2016 and really even into 2017.

But that said, I think as we think about continuing to advance our balance sheet goals of terming out the balance sheet, we certainly could be active in the market again to the extent it was - it may sense to do so. I know it was an opportunistic execution.

With respect to the overall leverage profile, I think we sit today at around seven times, that the EBITDA on a cash basis and do fully expect that we will continue to work that number lower overtime but I would say that based on the REITs profile of the company, we are certainly comfortable with the current level, but as I said committed to working at lower moving forward.

And we think there is a really good trajectory to continue to do that through using operating cash flow that the company is already generating towards the balance sheet.

As it relates to using the ATM, we like that we have that as a tool in the toolbox but think that we’ve got ample capacity today to continue to meet our portfolio, reinvestment objectives and continue to make progress on the balance sheet..

Christy McElroy

Great. And then Jim, just wanted to follow-up on a comment that you made earlier about not chasing the same 10 markets or so as others. And maybe Mark wants to weigh in here as well.

Realizing you don't want to provide specific acquisition goals, but maybe you could talk a little bit about some of the potential opportunities you see in acquisitions and how you would think about funding going forward..

Jim Taylor

You know it's a great question and one that I am most excited about excited about particularly after having been on the road and seeing some great assets and great retail nodes that aren’t necessarily even in the top 50 markets.

Think about markets like Ann Arbor, College Station, some markets in New Hampshire, Connecticut et cetera where we’re actually in the market so we understand it and therefore the risk of underwriting expanded investment in that market I believe is lower.

And when I look at what the pricing is in some of those markets, well tight and look we’re in all time tight environment, nowhere near where we’re seeing the pricing and importantly the IRRs being driven in some of these gateway markets.

As I alluded to it takes a long time to grow a 4 to a 6 and importantly when you are looking at some of these investment opportunities, the rents maybe already full and we’re going to be disciplined about it.

We’re going to be underwriting these asset opportunities one at a time just as on the disposition side which I think is going to be an important pipeline for us to reposition and reallocate our capital prudently over time, we’re going to be looking to sell assets where we believe we’ve maximized the potential and/or we don’t like the long-term fundamentals of that particular market.

So I think there is a lot of opportunity to for us to execute out there and not have to necessarily chase the crowd, if you will, trying to improve metrics like ABR or other things but rather prudently deploying capital to maximize returns. So I am particularly excited about it.

I would expect that most of that investment activity will be driven through asset sales and obviously the other thing I am really excited about Christy is the redevelopment opportunity in assets that we already own.

So we’re always going to capitals finite each of these opportunities, we’ll have to compete for the capital that we have but I am excited that we have that lever to drive further growth..

Christy McElroy

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Craig Schmidt with Bank of America..

Craig Schmidt

Hi, thanks.

How long might it be before we see a ramping up of redevelopment efforts?.

Jim Taylor

Well Craig as you know redevelopment can have a long lead time, they are often complicated.

I expect by next quarter you should start seeing us incrementally providing new project - but also importantly providing some disclosure on what that shallow pipeline looks like in our view and I would expect us to continue to advance that pipeline going forward.

What's encouraging to me Craig is that, we actually some very talented folks within the construction and development teams. I think some of our resources within that effort need to be reallocated and refocused but we do have some very good talent and as I alluded to in my remarks, we have a lot of very active projects underway just not nearly enough.

Particularly not nearly enough relative to what I saw when I was out in the field and many of you who have seen some of the assets have commented to me the same observation off line, boy, it certainly looks like this center could be more than what it is today.

And the range as I alluded in my remarks are large substantial projects like 163 in North Miami where I’ve had a lot of people call and offered a quote take that off our hands to more tactical and yet more numerous projects like Marlton Crossing in Marlton New Jersey where we have the opportunity to replace a large box but also do a bunch of additional small shop and potential pad opportunities around that.

So again I think from a team perspective it’s going to be a real focus on making sure we are prioritizing that activity that we are committing enough resources from a human capital standpoint to diligently prosecute what we have..

Craig Schmidt

And will you be doing dispositions before you proceed with the redevelopments?.

Jim Taylor

Well, we are working on dispositions as we speak and we will continue to tee those up. Difficult to match them perfectly but again I think if the crowd that came into our biz at ICSC or the number of calls I have got from funds, private buyers and others are any indication I think there is liquidity for us to execute on the dispositions.

And you should expect to see us ramp that activity up over time..

Craig Schmidt

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital..

Todd Thomas

Hi, thanks, good morning. Jim, you've been in - you've been in the seat now for a couple of months, a reasonable time to evaluate the platform and the current portfolio. Prior management had a focus on raising rents and recapturing space. And so, as a result, the lower occupancy was presented as an opportunity.

And then Dan Horowitz during his stint as interim CEO commented that occupancy needs to be higher across the portfolio and that closing the gap would be a focus much more than it had in the past. And there was seemingly a little bit of a greater sense of urgency there. Just curious where you stand as you think about maximizing revenue here..

Jim Taylor

I think it’s a balance and what I am proud of with the team is that we continue to execute from a productivity standpoint and Todd when you look at the volume of leases this platform did, I stack it up against Danny.

Importantly they also were driving rent and you can see that as we broke out for you this quarter, what we are doing on the renewal and new leases really the deal is that involve the negotiation if you will in the present time versus what was negotiated several years with the inception of the lease.

So the team is doing a great job driving that and I still think there is tons of that opportunity. However that productivity shouldn’t be a big stance, the long term potential of its center.

So as we look at back filling that space, we need to make sure that we are being holistic about what is most likely to drive long term NOI growth, not simply backfilling space that are better rent but from a merchandising perspective et cetera, what is going to drive our ROI over time.

And you know it’s in that type of activity that I have seen over time where I think we have a great, great opportunity to achieve that balance.

So it's not an either/or proposition Todd, it’s just more of a balance in terms of making sure that we are not just thinking about the four walls and filling them but we are also thinking about what the potential is for the balance of the center to make it more relevant in the community it serves..

Q – Todd Thomas

As you look at the portfolio, where do you think stabilized occupancy is? And how long do you think it might be before you are able to achieve that level?.

Jim Taylor

I think over time you know we should see stabilized occupancy overall for this portfolio in the mid 90s and I expect to see significant improvement as we engage in both leasing and capital recycling and redevelopment and small shop occupancy in particular. The time for that will be undetermined as of yet.

I think really what you have got to look at is the progress we are making each and every quarter towards driving that and also as we move forward I think the market doesn’t really truly understand the potential that exists in some of these assets.

So you are going to hear us talking much more specifically about each asset and what the opportunities are. Obviously we have 520, so we are not going to be talking about every asset on every call but importantly we are going to be trying to highlight for investors where we are making these decisions and how we are allocating capital..

Q – Todd Thomas

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jeffrey Donnelly with Wells Fargo..

Jeffrey Donnelly

Good morning, Jim.

Just curious for a moment - just portfolio recycling aside, do you feel that any material changes at the administrative level of the organization are largely behind you at this juncture, or do you think we could see more sort of restructuring as we move through in the next, say, 6 to 9 months?.

Jim Taylor

I think that more tweaks to the organization are definitely in order. And not going to talk specifically about it, but as a senior team, we’ve been talking about it internally to make sure that we’re allocating resources I alluded to on the call appropriately. And again, I think we have a significant G&A run rate.

So I think we have opportunity to reallocate or reemphasize the deployment of human capital from certain areas into areas that I think are going to be more instrumental in terms of driving our growth. I keep hitting on development and redevelopment. I think we have a wonderful leasing marketing effort.

I think that that could certainly use some more breadth. Our national accounts team has great penetration into their accounts. I think there are opportunities for us to continue to improve the coverage and the breadth of the type of retailers we have.

So I do expect some changes as I get through this assessment period and expect that we will be announcing them soon. And I think the team generally is pretty excited about it. As you know me, I’m an open book. I just want to make sure that it’s all communicated internally before we communicate out..

Jeffrey Donnelly

Understood. And I know you want to remain mum on capital recycling figures. But just to give you some perspective, I think investors are concerned that Brixmor may be facing an extended period of earnings dilution or just lack of growth, if you will, as you sell assets to pursue properties that might ultimately have higher-value growth.

But nevertheless, the act of a near-term drag on NOI - is there anything you can say to maybe address those concerns or maybe….

Jim Taylor

I mean, a couple of - I appreciate it. As I alluded to you, Jeff, in my remarks, as I go through the assets, there are not situations where we need to have fire sales.

I think we can be opportunistic with a number of these assets, many of which are very granular, which gives us the opportunity to minimize that dilution through recycling that capital into either redevelopment, which I think we can do substantially more of, or acquisitions that build our presence in some of these markets.

When you think about where we are going to be selling assets versus where we are going to be acquiring them. Will there be some dilutions? Yes, but in the context of this platform, not huge.

And we are mindful that it's always got to be a balanced to make sure that we are driving good fundamental outperformance in terms of that bottom line growth and I think we’ve got a lot of tools of which to do it..

Jeffrey Donnelly

And just what - the follow-up question I have is - asset quality and sort of maybe value growth prospects aside, do you have any specific goal for shrinking or growing the number of assets in the portfolio? Or is that really just sort of an outcropping of your actions? You don't really give specific thought or consideration to the sheer number of properties you hold?.

Jim Taylor

I think this year number of properties we hold is a lot. I think that we will probably on fewer over time. And just as importantly, Jeff, as I alluded to, we are in 90 markets where we own one asset in that market. If you look at the small shop occupancy for those assets, interestingly, it’s 300 basis points lower than our overall portfolio average.

That’s actually not surprising to me at all because critical mass in a market matters. It drives relevance of the landlord to the retailers that want to be in that market. It provides more underground intelligence in a field for what the dynamics of that particular market are.

So I would fully expect and hope for us over the 3, 5, and 7 year period to begin aggregating our exposures and tighter notes. And having fewer and fewer of these assets, where it’s the only asset we own in that particular market.

What I like about some of these markets, as I alluded to you Jeff, is there’s not a thundering herd of competitive capital necessarily to acquire what are great retail assets. And I think with a lot of private ownership and the scale and scope of our platform we have, some opportunities to acquire, build presence, and drive good return.

So, yes, I do expect just to have fewer assets but more importantly, Jeff, than the actual number of assets is the number of markets. I think you’ll see us concentrating more than what’ve been historically..

Jeffrey Donnelly

Okay. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jeremy Metz with UBS..

Jeremy Metz

Jim, in terms of leasing I think one of your initial observations after taking over was that there could be an opportunity to better align leasing incentives. So now that you are a few months in, I'm just wondering if you can give us your views here.

Any changes you are implementing or intend to implement to further align that part of it - that part of the business.

And then I guess more broadly, do you have the right size leasing team in place to execute your strategy today?.

Jim Taylor

Let me take the first part of the question first. As it relates to compensation structures, we are focused and are working on implementing a plan for our leasing agents in the field that appropriate aligns them with the NOI goals at the asset level. And moving away from pure production, but obviously rewarding production type compensation.

I mean as it relates to the size of the team, we're pleased with the productivity the team generates. We've got a lot of great athletes.

I think that there are a lot of great athletes that like to join the team, and we're going to continue to evaluate what we have in the field and make sure that people are performing in a way consistent with their goals, number one, and as importantly Jeremy that we are supporting them appropriately from a corporate perspective not just in terms of aligning their objectives or their compensation, but giving them the tools to outperform.

Whether it's leverage from the development or redevelopment teams or leasing marketing, et cetera. I think there's a lot of opportunities for us to be better, and that may involve realignment of some of the leasing teams, but again all with the focus to making sure that first and foremost the goal will be driving NOI s at the asset level..

Jeremy Metz

Appreciate that. And then I guess for my second one just wanted to go back to redevelopment. Obviously, you have mentioned a few times seeing a lot of potential here. Obviously you are in the early stages of reviewing plans, and it sounds like we'll get more color on the shadow pipeline in future quarters.

But I guess just longer-term, are you able to give us some color on how big of a piece of the business you want to see development and redevelopment becoming over time maybe as a percentage of enterprise value or even dollar value?.

Jim Taylor

I'd be very disappointed if that level of activity remained at about 1% of the enterprise value of the company. I think it could be higher than that both in terms of the total pool and what we execute on an annual basis.

Again redevelopment is tough, it's long, it's complicated, but I'd be disappointed if we did increase that percentage of the overall enterprise value pretty substantially..

Jeremy Metz

Thanks Jim..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Sandler O'Neill..

Alexander Goldfarb

Good morning Jim, good morning Angela. First, a question for you, Jim. You know, if you think back to your alma mater, obviously your comments about high cap are sort of 180 from the low-cap markets that you grew up in.

But one thing that sounds consistent is it sounds like you want to drive consistent earnings growth and cash flow growth regardless of your external activities or redevelopment programs. So is that a fair characterization as you - you said that you are not going to give targets for things whether it's dispose or redevelopment targets.

But it sounds like the consistent theme is that you want to drive consistent NAREIT-defined FFO growth over the years.

Is that the takeaway, or could we see some years where there is dilutive growth or growth is negatively impacted because of various activities that you are undertaking?.

Jim Taylor

The bottom line is we want to deliver consistent sustainable bottom line performance.

There may be years where we're undertaking some significant projects that slow that down a bit, but yes, I think that the great opportunity here from a business plan perspective is to strike that balance between not just capturing the embedded mark-to-market and the leases, but setting up a pipeline for future growth, funding that out with capital recycling activity and being smart about how we're deploying that capital.

As you know this is a very granular portfolio. So unlike some other situations where you might have an asset or two that is so substantial that it really swings of performance, I think we have an opportunity here to be even more consistent and predictable, which I think are important goals..

Alexander Goldfarb

So the bottom line is that should be the overriding objective that we are looking for is that consistency of growth above everything else.

Right?.

Jim Taylor

Well maximizing that long-term value through consistent growth and producing sustainable results, yes..

Alexander Goldfarb

Okay. And then the second question is for Angela. On the diagrams, you guys sort of basically maintain the midpoint. But it looks like your G&A went up and then straight-line revenue came down.

Can you just walk through - is it that your same-store NOI stayed the same? So how is it that guidance is staying the same if it looks like expenses are up and revenue recognition is down? What are the positive offsets there?.

Angela Aman

Yes, thanks Alex.

I addressed this a little bit in my prepared remarks but really it gets back to the Circuit City payment that was received by the company in the first quarter and when original guidance was provided there was an expectation that that payment which was substantial as you remember about $5.5 million I believe in the first quarter would have been included within the same-store pool but was not, were treated as lease settlement income.

So the fact that significant amount came out of same-store NOI growth but we were able to maintain the range release speak to broader portfolio performance or out-performance in the rest of the portfolio..

Alexander Goldfarb

Okay. I appreciate that. Thanks Ang..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust..

Ki Bin Kim

I know you've already touched on this. But if I look at your number of your assets with four or less assets, or how you guys define it, and MSAs that are ranked 51 to 100 or other, it just seems like from a surface level a pretty big pool of assets. And maybe just by count, 40% is in that kind of - perhaps that bucket.

Is that a reasonable estimate just because you don't have a lot of concentration in these markets, or it's just too far off from the demographic criteria that this is the reasonable bucket of assets that Brixmor over the next few years might be looking to sell? And are you okay with the Company becoming smaller over any kind of extended period of time?.

Jim Taylor

That is a far bigger number of potential capital recycling than I see.

Of course we’re always going to be opportunistic and what is embedded also in that question and I think perhaps what is not understood as well as it should be and we need to do a better as this is the company is that many of those assets might not necessarily be in the top 50 or top 100 MSAs but they nonetheless are very relevant to the communities they serve, their tenants are doing extremely well from a productivity standpoint and we have great opportunities for growth.

So when I think about assets like the one we have Maple Village in Ann Arbor I would love to grow the exposure that we have to that market obvious with the university there. I think there maybe opportunities for us to do that in time.

And so within that pool of assets that in single markets I do think there are going to be opportunities for us to expand that and importantly as I alluded to before Ki Bin, we actually have a view, a very informed view on those markets because we’re operating an asset in that market.

So we understand how the area trades, we understand where you should be and shouldn’t but then again there also a large number of assets many of which are small in terms of their NOI contribution that probably will get sold in time and we’re going to be a bit more aggressive about getting after that but I’d say your methodology of arriving at the 40% is more substantial than what I see as the near term recycling opportunities..

Ki Bin Kim

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jason White with Green Street Advisors..

Jason White

First question, just about dispositions. Can you kind of walk through the cap rates? I know you took out the cap rate disclosure in the supplemental. But could you provide the cap rates on those? It's not material obviously, but just trying to understand the story there and perhaps why those properties were pruned..

Jim Taylor

I am glad you raised it. Cap rates on that were in the 7 range and expect us going forward to provide even fuller disclosure Jason, not just on what the cap rates are but what the hold IRRs are on the assets that we’re choosing to dispose off to kind of give you a full view of not just cap rate but also why we’re making the decision to sell.

You know, as it relates to where cap rates are on the assets that we might sell going forward that remains to be seen and determined. Mark can comment on this. But I'm feeling pretty good about the liquidity that exists today particularly given the debt markets in some of the markets that we want to sell-in.

And again though, I mean, as you would expect us to – we're not going to - not sell an asset because it’s the high cap rate just like we’re not going to hold an asset that’s a low cap rate but might have a really low IRR..

Mark Horgan Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yes, Jim I wish of all the inbound calls we're getting is just because of the special management team they have. But ultimately it feels like there's a lot of - a lot of liquidity out there in the market. You know, we had a lot of conversations with our SEC.

We get call every day about assets so this is like there’s a lot of liquidity and our job I think our job from a cap rate reflecting perspective is to make sure we’re underwriting an asset on an asset-by-asset basis.

So that we can really understand the whole IRR risk and the opportunities that we have in the assets that we were – that are in the portfolio. As we’ve seen transaction market of all over the year we’ve seen increased activity from private REITs, we see in the private equity guys who are either on a lever basis or another basis looking for assets.

We’ve seen significant demand from high net worth investors. We’ve seen folks who are recycling out of really low cap rate multifamily asset seeking vital assets. And ultimately those buyers can get a pretty interesting yield given the debt market today. So we feel like there's interesting depth that we can explore to the extent we don't sell assets..

Jim Taylor

Yes, but Jason your fundamental question, we want to be best-in-class as it relates to disclosure and we’ll continue to provide as much color as we can on the capital recycling decision..

Jason White

Okay, thanks. And then second question, just in terms of types of properties Brixmor owns, small grocery centers all the way up to very large power centers. And obviously there's a lot of groceries in that portfolio, but from a size perspective there's a disparate collection there.

I was curious as you look forward and you look at the consumer environment and basically how people shop with e-commerce, gaining share, is there a type of property that you might find yourself more prone to own? Or does it really just all depend on each individual market and each individual asset?.

Jim Taylor

Well, it definitely depends on the market, it depends on the asset and most importantly it depends on how the center is relevant or not to the community it serves. Does it really serves the community well or not is it irrelevant.

And a relevant center that drives great tenant production in terms of sales may or may not include a grocer or may not be the top grocer in the market maybe a specialty grocer. But we're really looking at it through the lines of how do we gain confidence that that particular asset is positioned to grow over time..

Jason White

Okay.

So you don't see any particular challenges for, say, power centers as some of those tenants seem to be a bit more challenged and maybe the new concepts aren't as fast coming in to replace those types of tenants that you believe that that's a kind of robust format going forward just as much as a neighborhood grocery center?.

Jim Taylor

Well again it's just really completely depends on the asset in the market. What I like about our portfolio is that we have a great mix and many of our box centers have a lot of small shop and had opportunities other ways to drive growth including repositioning of those boxes finding alternative usage for those boxes.

But that only works if it's a good asset and a good location and I think that’s primarily the key driver of the relevance of a particular product to the community it serves..

Jason White

Great. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI..

Steve Sakwa

Thanks. Good morning. I guess just a quick question on the pending SEC investigation.

Is there anything you could sort of tell us about the timing and kind of where you guys stand in that process?.

Jim Taylor

Well you know at the outset I should comment that you know from my perspective the Board ran a textbook process in terms of receiving the tip and how they responded to it. And we've been responding to all of the SEC request for information inquiry. But at the end of the day it’s in the SEC’s hands.

But I feel good about the way the company responded to and addressed the situation. And certainly the transparency with which we've been dealing with the commission..

Steve Sakwa

Okay, thanks..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Handleson Justy with Mizuho..

Handleson Justy

Good morning. A couple questions. One, more on the leasing side. Spreads look to keep falling here on new and renewal ex-options.

So, is the next level of redevelopment or mark-to-market opportunities less exciting than the ones in years back? And is that a reflection on market rent?.

Brian Finnegan President & Chief Operating Officer

No. Hi, this is Brian. I don't think if you look at our spreads and you look at the rent that we were replacing it was actually the highest it's been in the years. So I think that was the big driver on it of it. And I think that 25% new deal spread it’s still pretty strong and our guys continue to drive rate both on new deals and renewals.

Our renewals are well over up 20 basis points over last quarter. So we think there's continuous runway or a higher rent growth in the portfolio. It’s something that the team is really focused on. And to Jim’s point as we ramp up this redevelopment pipeline I think you're going to see our top line maybe our number continue to grow..

Handleson Justy

So as we think about spreads over the near term, we should see them remain at a pretty consistent level here in the low to mid teens?.

Brian Finnegan President & Chief Operating Officer

Look I think that's fair right. And we didn’t change your guidance we said 10 to 15% this year and I would expect them to be in that range. And we still think we have a lot of runway in the portfolio to higher spreads..

Handleson Justy

Okay. Appreciate that. Angela, one for you, a point of clarification. I wanted to talk about - and I'm positive you might have covered this earlier. The tax recoveries in the quarter which look to add about 100 basis points of same-store NOI, curious what they related to.

And were they previously contemplated in prior guidance?.

Angela Aman

Yes, no, it’s a good question. If you look at the net recovery contribution to same store that we provide in the supplemental is about 80 basis points so the 3.5% same store growth recognized this quarter. And you're right that there was a component of that related to the lower tax expense recognized during Q2.

The lower tax expense is really driven by both tax bills received that were lower than what the company had expected through the course of 2015 and into early '16 and had accrued for as well as successful appeals activity and rebates received from some jurisdiction.

But the tax component has obviously an impact in recoveries as well so the net impacted is much lower. I also alluded in my prepared remarks the fact that we completed the company's annual CAM reconciliations in the second quarter as well. And that was the remainder of the positive impact from net recovery..

Handleson Justy

Okay.

So if I hear you correctly, there - it was not, but the net benefit was not 80 or 100 basis points that we talked about?.

Angela Aman

Yes, that's right. I think it’s fair to say that the changes in taxes were not in original guidance but again sort of a more muted impact as it relates to the bottom line impact from the taxes.

I would say based on the fact that the taxes were lower as a result of some rebate activity and reconciliations based on official or actual tax bills you should expect that tax expense number to go back to sort of what the run rate had been over the last couple of quarters in Q3..

Handleson Justy

Got you. Okay, thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Vincent Chao with Deutsche Bank..

Vincent Chao

Hi, good morning everyone. Jim, just a question for you. Just in terms of pushback on the story, one of them is just the overall quality of the portfolio. You've talked positively about the opportunity that you see on the investments and the portfolio overall. I'm just curious.

You know, it doesn't sound like you're going to focus on ABR and some of those more traditional metrics that people look at from a quality perspective. But just curious how you're thinking about changing that perception with folks going forward..

Jim Taylor

Well, I think that perception will take time to change. I think that it will be changed through execution and our underlying performance then.

As we continue to grow that ABR and demonstrate effective capital recycling I think what will demonstrate is that we are providing a growth in underlying cash flows and bottom-line results which from a risk-adjusted standpoint is among the most attractive in this sector and on an absolute standpoint.

And my point about ABR is of course we want to drive ABR and you will see our ABR accrete over time. But we are not going to make an investment simply for that metric and in fact many times what you see particularly needs gateway markets.

Our ABRs that have outgrown the underlying tenant productivity and when you do that you take on big risk not only that you're unable to keep that rent in place as a tenant’s role but also that you may need to deploy a lot of capital into that asset to reposition or whatever you need to do. So that’s really my point about ABR.

I think that what you should be looking for us to continue to do as we demonstrated is show some real positive growth in that ABR.

I like being, if you will the second owner of a lot of these assets as I look at the bases, as I look at where the NOI is, as I look at where we should be able to take the ABR on an asset-by-asset basis, I’m very encouraged and I think it does present an opportunity to drive growth through one of the most attractive means out there which is interesting and in existing and prudent retail location..

Vincent Chao

Okay. Thanks a lot..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Michael Mueller with JPMorgan..

Michael Mueller

Hi.

Angela quick question, on the straight line rent burn off relative to 2016s $47 million to $50 million, can you talk about what you expect to happen in 2017, 2018?.

Angela Aman

Yes, it’s a good question. I would expect that straight line tends to be a little bit bumpy and will depend a lot on the pool of leases I can find over the next year or so but the FAS141 burn-off which is the most significant driver of the volatility the company has had in the outline item should decrease by $3 million to $5 million next year..

Michael Mueller

Got it. Okay. And then I guess from a bigger-picture standpoint, just thinking about anchor repositionings, redevelopments, a lot of times there could be a gray area between the two.

So, what is the definition when we hear redevelopment coming from you? What's going to be different from that compared to an anchor repositioning?.

Jim Taylor

You know from my standpoint if all you are doing is really re-tenanting the box that feels like an anchor repositioning.

However if you are dividing the box and the investment is expanding to balance at the center whether it’s the side or out parcels or repositioning some of the other space, then that really I think is more in line with the redevelopment.

So I think you should expect to see on a proportional basis more and more of the projects that we identify being classified as redevelopments and we will provide you more granular disclosure on the total investment, the expected yield, timing et cetera..

Michael Mueller

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Rich Moore with RBC Capital Markets..

Rich Moore

Hi, good morning guys. Jim, you guys sound pretty busy in terms of all the things you are doing.

And I'm curious, will ground-up development be any part of this at anytime soon?.

Jim Taylor

On a risk adjusted basis I don’t see a thing really significant to what we want to pursue.

You know there are opportunities for us Rich to potentially develop upon adjacent parcels that might be out parcel development et cetera, but again different risk profile in terms of pure ground up development in most markets that’s underwriting typically to 6% type returns, maybe 7% if you are really lucky and I just think we have far more attractive opportunities at higher yield and lower risk in the assets that we own and control.

So I don't see that as a primary activity in the next few years..

Rich Moore

Okay. And then similarly - thank you.

And then similarly on mixed-use, when you look at your portfolio do you see any of those kind of opportunities to add, I don't know, some sort of mixed-use component to the center?.

Jim Taylor

I think there maybe opportunities from time to time to add density. I mentioned some of the more significant redevelopment projects where you know you may have additional uses justified by the market and by where conditions are but certainly nothing on substantial or significant scale.

I think we got a lot of opportunity pursuing retail investment and that’s really our bread and butter. But that said if it’s what called for then we will be smart about how we execute it, we may partner, do other things but again I see a few opportunities in the portfolio but I wouldn’t say they are substantial..

Rich Moore

Okay, great. And then last thing is it was interesting, in the last few days there's been sort of this talk out there that Kmart is doing some crazy things in terms of their inventory, like they are positioning for final sales, that sort of thing.

Are you hearing anything that would indicate for your Kmart portfolio, for your - I guess for your whole Sears portfolio, that you are seeing any liquidation activity or that they might make some changes and maybe even if there might be some opportunity to get some more of those back?.

Brian Finnegan President & Chief Operating Officer

Rick, this is Brian. Kmart has been deteriorating for some time. And we are working on strategies for every one of our Kmart boxes today. And we’ve had some success with the five that we’ve taken back and I think as we go on you’ll hear more about what we’re doing on that front.

In terms of any immediate changes that we’ve seen we haven't but we’re expecting long term that they are not focused on being a very successful retailer and we’re doing what we can to make sure we’re getting ahead of that..

Rich Moore

Okay, great. Thanks guys..

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Linda Tsai with Barclays..

Q – Linda Tsai

Hi. It sounds like the upcoming dispositions are going to be largely targeted in the 98 single-asset markets first.

What percentage of same-store NOI does that currently represent? And then I guess the corollary is how many of those 98 properties might you want to hold onto longer-term in order to increase the penetration in those areas?.

Jim Taylor

We're going to be looking more broadly than just as 90 single asset markets. But I highlight that because I want to give the market a direction in terms of what we’re going and what our goals are in terms of aggregating our investment.

And as you point out, we haven’t fully gone through the 90 to ascertain, where we want to grow or where we want to exit. But there will be other opportunities in existing markets where we maximize the opportunity at a particular asset and when we look at the hold IRR we determine it’s time to sell.

So it really is going to be an asset-by-asset, market-by-market decision. We’re going to be opportunistic. I’m afraid I can’t give you specific guidance in terms of what that would constitute in terms of the percentage of same-store NOI.

But also expect us to be demonstrating some good prudent reinvestment opportunities with that, as we do what you charge us to do which is prudently allocate capital..

Linda Tsai

Thanks. Then just a question for Angela.

Maybe it's too early, but how are you thinking about store closures and bankruptcies for 2017? Would you assume a similar level as in 2016?.

Angela Aman

Yes, I mean, we’re just starting our budgeting and forecasting process for 2017. So it’s a little bit early I think the company has from a broader perspective and provisions for doubtful accounts done a good job over the last few years of working through. It's sort of older ARS issues and continuing to work that number down.

But in terms of specific retailer disruption in 2017, I think it’s just a little too early to tell..

Linda Tsai

Okay, thanks..

Operator

Thank you. And we have a follow up question from Christy McElroy of Citi..

Michael Bilerman

Jim, it's Michael Bilerman. Good morning.

I was wondering as you sort of came in and sort of evaluated sort of how you have your offices accounting down in Philadelphia and corporate in New York, what changes if any do you sort of contemplate? Would you consider bringing everything together? Maybe that's in New York; maybe that's everyone down in Philly.

Do you consider having more senior representation down in Philly? And especially just coming after what was a more financial-oriented issue that led to the termination of your CEO, CFO and CAO, would seem that maybe controls and procedures maintaining two offices could have been part of it. So I'm curious how you have evaluated that part of it..

Jim Taylor

While you’re touching on an important issue and that is we need to - we need to be confident that we do have the right leadership in the financial office down in Conshohocken. Angela and I have been spending a significant amount of time down there.

And we will continue to work to make sure that we have the right leadership and the right exposure in terms of relocating not on the immediate radar, Michael. But, also importantly the issues that the Company faced were less driven by the separation of offices in fact that really wasn’t the driving issue in terms of the tone from the top.

With that said, we’re not only committed to having best-in-class disclosure, we’re committed to having best-in-class operating controls in four environment.

So, Angela and I’ve been spending a significant amount of time on that as you would expect working with the audit committee, working with our external auditors and working with our internal auditors to make sure that we have the best policies and procedures in place.

And then to the root of your question, certainly very focused on making sure that we have the right leadership in place down there. But, again, I want to highlight that that’s important to us, but certainly wasn’t in my opinion, the casual factor of the challenges the company face..

Michael Bilerman

I guess can you walk through the changes that have been made in the control and environment as well as the procedures to ensure that everything is sort of running in a much more tighter fashion to what occurred? And I recognize it's the tone from the top. But systems in place allowed it to go undetected for many years.

So, what sort of changes have you been able to implement over the last 70 days where we can get just a lot more confidence that nothing ever will come back again?.

Jim Taylor

The primary issue, Michael, was the tone from the top, and that’s important because no set of internal controls or other processes can adequately compensate for a failure in that key control.

That said, I've been very, very pleased with the investment that the company has made in systems and processes, and I'd submit that our supplemental package reflects a higher degree of transparency and accuracy and completeness than I think virtually any of our peers, which is a reflection of the quality of information, the systems that we have in place.

Some of the controls that we’ve been focused on are making sure that we’re having the right type of training, making sure that we are in fact setting the right tone. Michael I actually attended a couple of classes on journal entries.

I want to make sure that the team sees me there and I want to make sure that everybody understands the transparency and credibility, and integrity or the core of what we’re going to do as a company going forward, and what I expect you to hold us accountable for.

But in terms of, you know, redundancy and controls and separation of duties and processes and all the other classic things that you think about for our control environment, I think we are in good shape and I think that's reflected in terms of the testing that we’re doing and the controls and processes that we have in place..

Michael Bilerman

Great. Thanks for the color..

Operator

Thank you. And as there are no more questions, I’d like to turn the call to Stacy Slater for any closing comments..

Stacy Slater Senior Vice President of Investor Relations & Capital Markets

Thank you, Operator. Thank you all for joining us today and we look forward to seeing many of you in the next few weeks. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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