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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q1
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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Bowlero Corp., First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ashley De Simone of ICR. Thank you, Ashley. You may begin..

Ashley DeSimone

Good afternoon. And welcome to the Bowlero Corp., first quarter and fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. During this call, the company may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements.

Such statements reflect the company's views with respect to future events as of today, and are based on management's current expectations, estimates, forecasts, projections, assumptions, beliefs and information.

These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that can cause actual events and results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. For further details concerning these risks and uncertainties, please see our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on September 15, 2022.

The company expressly disclaims any obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as required by applicable law.

In addition, during today's call, the company will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe could be useful in evaluating our performance. Reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income calculated under GAAP, can be found in our earnings press release and will be included in our Form 10-Q for the first quarter and fiscal year 2023.

Throughout today's conversation, you will hear the company refer to EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. At all times, the company is referring to adjusted EBITDA, as described therein and reconciled to net income in the associated disclosures. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today.

I would now like to turn the call over to Brett Parker, President and Chief Financial Officer of Bowlero. Please go ahead..

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

the benefits of QMS, which is our algorithmically powered management system, management's ability to manage in all macro environments, and the continued positive momentum and demand we see in the business. We have seen this strong demand sustained beyond the quarter end.

In the first 18 weeks of fiscal year '23, which takes you through November 6, revenue has remained extremely robust growing 56% versus pre-pandemic levels with same store revenue increasing 36% on the same basis.

When compared to the same time period and prior year, which was an excellent quarter in its own right, FY'23 revenues were higher by 30% and same store revenues were higher by 21%.

Adjusted EBITDA margin in the quarter was 28.4%, which grew 1,158 basis points versus the corresponding pre-pandemic quarter and reflects our relentless pursuit of a world class operational performance that lies at the core of our company culture. We continue to deliver margins well in excess of our peers.

As mentioned, this operational excellence is supported by our proprietary technologically enabled QMS tool, which focuses on optimizing the revenue generation and cost control discipline across the entire portfolio. This enables us to generate tremendous cash flow from the business. In Q1 FY'23, we generated $36 million in cash from operations.

The ability to continue to produce large amounts of cash from operations enables the business to self-fund a large number of center acquisitions, newbuilds, and existing center upgrades and renovations. In the first quarter, we added three new centers.

Through November 16, and the fiscal year '23, we have acquired an additional six centers bringing our total center count to 325. We also have definitive purchase agreements to acquire an additional three.

Since the start of fiscal '22, we have added 38 new centers to our portfolio, and in so doing grew the center count by approximately 10% on an annualized basis.

A significant majority of these came with own real estate as well, which provides long term business security and excellent optionality to raise cash through sale leaseback transactions or traditional mortgages. Results in these new centers have been very strong, and the anticipated returns are in line with or better than prior center additions.

The pipeline for additional deals remains robust, and offers a compelling opportunity to further consolidate and grow the industry. Beyond the financial performance, there were other operational initiatives that we launched this quarter, which gives us additional confidence and excitement for the company's future.

We successfully initiated a pilot of a skill-based gamification app called Money Ball that we believe can transform the performance of our centers by deepening engagement with our guests. Money Ball is an internally developed app that enables guests to bowl and challenges for cash or other prizes depending on the location.

Money Ball uses proprietary algorithms to determine odds on certain challenges, which range in difficulty from as easy as breaking 100 to as difficult as bowling and exact score. We believe that in addition to an enhance guest experience, visitor frequency and in center dwell time could increase.

With that, I'll move into a more detailed discussion of the results in Q1 fiscal year 2023. During the quarter ended October 2, 2022, we established new high watermarks for both first quarter and trailing 12 months revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Revenue continues to materially outperform pre-pandemic levels, both in total and on the same store basis.

Despite all the well documented macro cost pressures, we continue to produce very strong margins. For the Q1, FY'23 adjusted EBITDA margin of 28.4% compared to 16.8% in the comparable pre-pandemic period.

As previously noted, we continue to generate prodigious levels of cash from operations which positions us favorably to continue to execute our growth strategy. Driving this performance in the quarter was very strong revenue growth. Top line increased by 27% year-over-year and surpassed pre-pandemic levels by 55%.

Same store sales also rose 20% compared to prior year quarter. This increase was supported by continued strong performance of walking retail, notable and accelerating growth in event revenue for the third consecutive quarter, and a strong recovery in league revenue.

The dramatic increase in event revenue and the rebound of league have the potential to support substantial continuing revenue growth, and have resulted in an acceleration of revenue expansion through the week ended November 6.

Furthermore, we recently increased prices across the portfolio, and we expect the impact of these increases to further materialize in the months ahead. We continue to monitor customer response of which we have seen none thus far, and input costs to inform further price changes.

Adjusted EBITDA was $65 million in the quarter, which represents an increase of $6 million, or 11% year-over-year, and an increase of $40 million, or 162% relative to pre-pandemic performance. We reported a net loss of $34 million for the quarter, which includes a $41 million non-cash expense related to the valuation of the year end shares [ph].

Adjusted for this non-cash expense net income would have been a positive $7 million. In addition, we generated $36 million in cash from operations in Q1. Consistent with our history, we continue to reinvest in the business and further optimize our capital structure to maximize shareholder value.

As of May 18, 2022, we retired all the outstanding warrants and reduced ultimate dilution in so doing. Furthermore, we began returning capital to shareholders under our previously announced $200 million buyback authorization.

Through October 2, 2022, we have repurchased almost 3.9 million shares at an average price of $10.26, returning $40 million to shareholders in less than seven months. The aforementioned buyback has retired 91% of the approximately 4.3 million shares issued in the warrant exchange.

As we highlighted on Page 4 of the materials, we're proud to report that our store count now stands at 325, which includes the addition of nine new centers since the start of the fiscal year, and 38 new centers since the start of fiscal year 2022.

Additionally, we have executed definitive purchase agreements or leases to add another eight new centers to our portfolio and attractive markets across the country. Our growing footprint continues to improve our presence in and around top MSAs and simultaneously opens up new markets for us.

We expect the momentum in our acquisition activity to continue as the pipeline remains as robust as ever. On Page 5 of the materials, you can see the recent trends in Bowlero center revenue.

As mentioned on our last earnings call, this extended release of data is related to the assessment of the waning impact of COVID, general return to office trend and the evolving macroenvironment whether it's increasing talk of a weakening consumer inflation and fears of recession.

Despite any potential headwinds, we continue to materially outperform pre-pandemic levels, and continue to outpace FY'22 revenue generation. More specifically, since January 2022, our revenue has consistently outperformed pre-pandemic levels.

This growth accelerated in February, March and April and has been steady other than week-to-week variances due to anomalies such as calendar shifts and weather since. This momentum has continued into the beginning of our businesses.

While the results are preliminary, the revenue in the most recent week which ended November 6, grew an impressive 57% compared to pre-pandemic. We have seen our strong top line performance translate into continued double digit growth and adjusted EBITA as demonstrated on Page 6.

Adjusted EBITDA margin was 28.4%, which surged almost 1,200 basis points above the comparable pre-pandemic metric driven by revenue growth, our proprietary technology based solutions that allow us to continually optimize performance and the operating leverage of our business.

Relative to Q1 and FY'22 adjusted EBITDA margin decreased by 415 basis points. This short term margin pressure primarily resulted from the reinvestment in normalizing staffing in order to maximize results in the coming busy season.

In addition, as we have previously noted, Q1 FY'22 adjusted EBITDA margin was unseasonably high due to pandemic related staffing shortages, which have since reached more stabilized levels. Management's view on annual margins remains unchanged.

And the seasonal normalization comes ahead of our seasonally largest Q2 and Q3, which we know experienced hampered demand and FY'22 due to the impact of Omicron and a new wave of COVID restrictions. Moving on to Page 7, we wanted to provide additional context around our record setting revenue and adjusted EBITDA performance for this quarter.

From a seasonality perspective, Q1 is typically a lower volume and margin quarter. We believe the pre-pandemic revenue curve remains the most indicative view of typical seasonality trends in our business with Q2 and Q3, historically serving as the largest quarters, accounting for 55% to 60% of annual revenue, and 65% to 70% of annual adjusted EBITDA.

This year, the rebound in revenue we saw in the first quarter, vis-à-vis event and league supports our confidence heading into the second and third quarters. We never lost focused on our goal of providing delightful guest experiences for our guests, and are now well positioned to do so through fiscal year 2023.

Our overall financial performance is largely a function of our center level economics. As highlighted on Page 8, center level revenue increased $50 million, or 20% over the comparable prior year period with positive momentum across each of our guests segments walk in retail group events and leagues and tournaments.

Center level EBITDA grew 20% year-over-year, and an astounding 95% over the pre-pandemic period reaching $86 million. Our 38% center level EBITDA margin increased 753 basis points above the comparable pre-pandemic period. Page 9 lays out cash flows for the quarter.

The company generated $36 million in cash from operations during Q1 FY'23, growing almost 13% versus the prior year. This prodigious cash flow provides support for our center acquisitions building and the conversion of centers as well as the continued optimization of our capitalist structure, including share buybacks.

The company finished the quarter in a very strong cash position with balances of nearly $110 million, even after investing $62 million in growing and improving our footprint.

Please note that it is typical for cash decline in its first fiscal quarter, due to the seasonal nature of the business combined with the benefits of completing construction projects of all types in the seasonally smaller first and fourth quarters of each year.

In summary, Bowlero's Q1 FY'23 performance continued to significantly outpace pre-pandemic levels. We set new records in terms of revenue and adjusted EBITDA generated in a first quarter across the company's multi-decade history.

We are proud of the results which demonstrate the continuation of the positive momentum and exemplary annual performance we achieved in fiscal year 2022. Fiscal year 2023 is off to a strong start, and we believe the company is poised to continue its strong performance through a combination of organic growth and new center additions going forward.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to presenting again next quarter. We will now begin a brief Q&A led by our Chairman Founder and CEO, Thomas Shannon. Operator, please open the line for questions..

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question is from Kevin Heenan with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question..

Kevin Heenan

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just a quick one on the remarks. Brett. I think you said your annual view on the margins remains unchanged. Can you just remind us, do you see the FY'22's 35% EBITDA margin as a base to build on this year? Thanks. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Sure. Yeah, I mean, look, we would expect that typically, as revenue rises, we would see higher margins, as I said from a combination of the impacts of QMS and then through the operating leverage in the business. So that's sort of the baseline..

Kevin Heenan

Got it. And on the 2Q to-date, top-line figures you cited. Can you just remind us what the same center sales revenue was trending in the second quarter to-date relative to 1Q? Thanks. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Yeah. So the Q1, same store sales were higher by 55% versus pre-pandemic, or 37.6% versus pre-pandemic are 19.9% year over year. And the Q2 year-to-date through the first 18 weeks, we're seeing same store sales higher by 36% versus pre-pandemic and 21% to FY'22 in the early part of Q2.

So it's essentially Q4, the revenue was higher by 52% in total and 32% on a same store basis..

Kevin Heenan

Great, thanks very much. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question..

Ian Zaffino

Hi, great. Thanks for taking my question. On the pricing that you mentioned, that you mentioned that you recently adjusted to pricing to reflect the cost environment. When have you implemented that? And what areas have you implemented that in or maybe the magnitude or any type of color to give us rounding that would be great. Thanks..

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Sure, it's Tom Shannon. Thanks for the question. We've taken about 9% on average across all the products, so food, beverage, and bowling.

And that took place about six weeks ago, Brett, correct me if I'm wrong on that date, but it seems like around six weeks ago, is when we took the price increase?.

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Yeah, it's been on a rolling basis. But most of it has been in that window you described..

Ian Zaffino

Okay. So basically most of it was not reflected in this past quarter. Okay. And when you talk about staffing, where were we staffing up? Is this in anticipation of, additional events? Is it just mainline bowling? Where's the staffing? And again, any type of color on that would be helpful, thanks..

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Well, it's across the board. So if you look back a year, in the first fiscal quarter of last year, we were just coming out of COVID. It was very hard to hire. A lot of people didn't come back to work, we were dramatically short staffed everywhere. So the margin was unsustainably high.

And I mean unsustainably, because you might have centers where you have two managers and the end, the par is three or four. And so you can sustain that for a while, but eventually you just burn out your managers. So it's really across the board.

And I would say that by being short staffed a year ago, we weren't able to maximize the opportunity in the second and third fiscal quarters, which are by far the highest revenue quarters, we have and the most important revenue quarters for that reason. I would say, excuse me, we are we are very well staffed now.

And in most markets, I would say we are optimally staffed. So we're prepared to capture as much revenue as possible in the quarter in the next busy quarter that comes in after the start of the year. I think you're already seeing that in the incredibly robust same store sales that we've generated already so far in this quarter.

And again, we're comping with very high numbers against numbers last year that were really good on a revenue basis. I mean, this was just a blowout quarter, $230 million of revenue in the quarter are traditionally slowest quarter is a huge number.

So, again you went from very low labor last year, unsustainably low to a more normalized labor environment, which I think positions us extremely well to maximize revenue over the next few quarters..

Ian Zaffino

Okay, great. Thank you very much. This is great color..

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Sure, Ian..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Stefanos Crist with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question..

Stefanos Crist

Hey, thanks for taking my questions. You mentioned Money Ball, can we talk about some of the economics here? I imagine there's some incremental costs, maybe utilization that you think would be breakeven.

And then what you see the potential of Money Ball today?.

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Well, we're spending in the neighborhood of $3 million to $4 million a year to develop and maintain this product. We developed it entirely in house so we own it, we own all the data like think that's key.

The main point of Money Ball from our perspective is to increase the number of games bowled per visit, so increased length of stay, and also increased frequency. And the product will really have two basic iterations.

One is a full money version where we're going to give you a series of challenges, and you can put up money against those and when actual money. The other is a free version where you have no money at risk. And you can win things like free game coupons, free food, discounts on food, et cetera.

The point of both of those versions is identical to increase the number of games both per visit and to increase frequency of visitation. Now, if you think about it, the average bowler comes in and boasts about 2.2 games per visit. And let's just say that the average game we charged the average game rate is about $8.

If you can increase that number of games bowled by one game per visit, right, which is the whole system is geared towards incentivizing you to do that will generate another $8 of bowling revenue per guest visit which drops at 100% margin. So the potential revenue increase from this product is enormous.

And it's basically all margin less the $3 million to $4 million of ongoing maintenance and improvement costs that we're spending. The goal is not for the -- in the money version, the goal is not for the house to make money.

Although it could by offering odds, the house could be the counterparty, we could actually make money and adjust the odds up or down to have a hold so to speak. That's not the goal, the goal is to return basically all of the money to the player and in some cases, more than all the money they've put at risk.

And the reason is because we have so much opportunity in increased revenue per visit, at high margin that we could give back up to the $8 that we're getting for the incremental game bowled per visit and still be ahead economically.

And so, it gives us a tremendous tool to sort of dial up or down what the incentive is to spur that increased pay per visit, and then to induce people to come back and bowl more..

Stefanos Crist

That's great color. Thank you so much. If I can just squeeze in one more, you purchased, I think 400,000 or 500,000 shares during the quarter.

Can you just talk about the decision that goes into that versus acquiring more centers or ramping up convergence?.

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Well, we're not capital constrained. So we sort of do all of it. We buyback opportunistically and we acquire every center or sign every lease that meets our hurdle rate. Hurdle rate being about 25% compounded over five years, with the terminal value factored in. So we started out the fiscal year with a significant cash balance.

As you know, we generate prodigious amounts of cash flow and at the same time, we're renovating centers. So we're not capital constrained and we sort of are in a very virtuous position where all of these are very high IRR opportunities. And thus far, we haven't had to pick and choose, we've just done all of them..

Stefanos Crist

Right, thanks so much. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Sure thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Eric Handler with MKM Partners. Please proceed with your question..

Eric Handler

Good afternoon, and thanks for the question. Tom, I wonder if we could sort of revisit the group events segment from last year second quarter. Obviously, Omicron caused a lot of cancellations in those corporate events in the quarter. Can you go back and I vaguely remember you saying what the impact was last year on this.

But let's say whatever that number is, if we take that number and add it to the $40 million from group events that -- that was your actual number from last year's 2Q.

Is that a good starting point to think about for group events in this year's 2Q?.

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

It seems reasonable. I mean, we're trending higher than that now. So I think you can use that as a baseline.

But in Brett, we didn't publish this number, but can we talk about what we did in Q4 on a cost basis and events?.

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Through Q3..

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Okay, I don't have that number handy. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

So through Q3, Eric our net revenue, or through Q1, sorry, was up 90% versus prior year, and 69% to pre-pandemic. So the momentum is really strong, it goes far beyond sort of getting back hold, which I think is the starting point that you were describing, where the trends are meaningfully more positive than that. For a number of reasons.

But they're -- I think that's probably a good place to start your equation is looking at the trends in the year-to-date, because there's really nothing better to point to. And it's the most up to date that, the momentum in that part of the business in particular is extremely strong.

But we're not seeing I think, what's equally important, and this is directly in response to your question. But we're not -- it's not as if we're seeing some replacement. So in the quarter, we saw events 69% versus pre-pandemic, as I said. We're also seeing retail up 69% and league up 19%. So we're doing better across all lines of business.

It's not just that and there isn't any replacement that's happening..

Eric Handler

Right, okay. That is helpful. And then with regards to your leagues and tournaments. Obviously, you just said you got like 19% growth, pre-pandemic. Just looking at the trendline sequentially in the fourth quarter, it was $21 million, which I think is a shoulder period for leagues.

But last year, in the second and third quarter, you were like at $26 million $28 million.

Like, how do I think about the seasonality of leagues? And in terms of, let's say, signups, how is that tracking on a year-over-year basis?.

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, the business is evolving. It's evolving from longer leagues to shorter leagues, et cetera. It's also evolving, in that. There were times of the week where the league business maximize the revenue opportunity, and now it doesn't. And so we've selectively taken leagues out to replace with retail.

So the fact that we're up in league is pretty astonishing. I think the industry as a whole is down. But leagues are not your primetime business. They are really the off-primetime business, you have a lot of day leagues, you have leagues during the week, et cetera. And so, the league business for us is up.

There's an evolution going from the 32-week, leagues to the shorter social leagues that can be half of that, or even shorter, but they spend more on food and beverage, which doesn't directly show up in the league number. So moving around, all in a positive direction, and certainly positive for the business.

But it's not something that I would particularly focus on, sort of in the whole revenue mix..

Eric Handler

Got it. Okay. And then one last question, if you don't mind for Brett. I believe all of your debt now is variable.

How are you thinking about the debt that you have outstanding? Would it make sense maybe to pay down some of the debt with excess cash? How do we think about where the interest rates are trending to?.

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Well, I mean, at this point, though it's not low in the sense that everybody got sort of loaded into. The cost of capital is still pretty low, particularly when you compare it to the returns that we get by reinvesting in the business. So Tom mentioned the 25% hurdle rate, nearly all of our investment strategies were well ahead of that, in actuality.

And we're seeing -- those returns continues so that the spread is just huge. So we continue to monitor it and we have considered putting on some caps. But typically trying to outsmart the interest rate environment, in marketplace has not been a winning strategy for most.

So I think at this point, we're more inclined to see how things shake up -- shake out because it's still dramatically cheaper than what our rate return is by reinvesting that money in the business. .

Eric Handler

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. .

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question..

Michael Kupinski

Thank you, and thanks for taking my questions. Some of them have already been dressed, but I was just wondering, in terms of the color on Q2, and you indicated that you did increase pricing.

Can you talk a little bit about the margins, particularly in the event revenue, given the fact that that seems to be rebounding very strongly, versus like, let's say league play and others.

And so if you could just kind of give us your thoughts on the composition of the revenue mix, and how margins kind of play into that, given your price increases and so forth?.

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Michael. It's Tom Shannon. The bowling part of the business has the highest margin, there's no cost of goods sold. So it's basically all profit on a variable basis. And we're seeing very, very robust retail demand and event demand. So the retail bowling is the highest margin, the highest volume, the most important part of the business.

We're seeing the most robust demand we've ever seen in the company's history. We're also seeing extremely strong event sales which are accelerating. And that business is very high margin, also just slightly less high margin because you have a food and beverage component. So instead of it being basically 100% margin, let's call that business 80% margin.

So I think what's important to keep in mind is that the quarter we just got out of is our lowest grossing quarter, even though it was very, very good quarter $230 million in revenue in the quarter that it's not surprising that if you're going to have margin compression in any quarter, it would be this one on a year-over-year basis, because you're going from a quarter where you had abnormally low input costs to one where they're more normalized, and it's not a huge revenue quarter.

And so, the increase in costs sort of is magnified on a margin basis, versus what it would look like, say in this quarter or the next quarter. And so there's a -- we made a conscious decision to staff up to be fully capable of maximizing revenue and profit for the rest of the year. And we had to staff up in our lowest grossing quarter.

So, the business across the board is extremely strong. Revenue generation continues to defy our expectations, Street's expectations, our annual operating plan, really everything. And now we're able to run the business in a sustainable way, and most importantly, deliver a high-quality guest experience..

Michael Kupinski

Well, your business is performing extremely with some pretty strong economic headwinds, not all of your peers are doing as well. I was just wondering if you have noticed that there might be more interest in acquisitions and that sort of thing, given that you're doing so well, and others aren't.

And I'm just wondering if the pipeline of acquisition targets look like they've improved from where they were just maybe six months ago..

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I don't think there's been any change in that. But I will say that the acquisitions we've done year-to-date have been extremely good acquisitions. So Strikes at Rocklin in California, a center doing $6 million as an independent, which is an extremely high number for an independent. We just closed on the Mark in Omaha yesterday.

You might have see in the press release or on Monday, I guess. Again, another center and independent doing $6 million. We think those centers have potential under our ownership to get to $8 million or $9 million. And when you're at those levels, they're extremely profitable.

We also acquired Mel's Lone Star Lanes in Georgetown, outside of Austin, Texas, the Alley in Wichita. So not just a lot of deal activity, but a lot of really high quality deal activity, which is great. And then the rest of the centers are all very good, quite good.

But this last couple of months was unusual in that we did so many deals of really, really high quality centers. I would say that the outlook going forward is about the same. And we have a very robust pipeline.

We have five leases signed for new builds construction will start in after the first of the year, and these centers will probably average, I would guess, $7 million to $8 million so far, far higher than our fleet average. So it's a combination of deal volume, but also deal quality and the deal quality keeps going up.

But just to answer your question the most simple form, we haven't really seen any change in the volume, the volume remains really good. I think the volume is driven more by the demographics of the sellers. You have an elderly independent proprietor base. And thus far, we're really the only acquirers of any scale..

Michael Kupinski

Right. Thanks for all the color. Appreciate that. .

Thomas Shannon Founder, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. My pleasure..

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing comments..

Brett Parker Executive Vice Chairman & Secretary

I think this is Brett Parker. I would just thank everybody for joining and giving us the opportunity to share our thoughts on what was a really robust performance in this quarter. And we look forward to talking again in a few months..

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation..

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