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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q4
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Executives

Richard Gieryn - General Counsel Albert Benchimol - President and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Henry - Chief Financial Officer.

Analysts

Jay Cohen - Bank of America Merrill Lynch Kai Pan - Morgan Stanley Vinay Misquith - Evercore ISI Dan Farrell - Sterne, Agee Ryan Byrnes - Janney Capital Josh Shanker - Deutsche Bank Brian Meredith - UBS Charles Sebaski - BMO Capital Markets Meyer Shields - KBW Cliff Gallant - Nomura.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2014 AXIS Capital earnings conference call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Gieryn, General Counsel. Please go ahead..

Richard Gieryn

Thank you, operator. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I am happy to welcome you to our conference call to discuss the financial results for AXIS Capital for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2014. Our earnings press release and financial supplement were issued yesterday evening after the market closed.

If you would like copies, please visit the Investor Information section of our website, www.axiscapital.com. We set aside an hour for today's call, which is also available as an audio webcast through the Investor Information section of our website. A replay of the telephone conference will be available by dialing 877-344-7529 in the U.S.

The international number is 412-317-0088. The conference code for both replay dial-in numbers is 10058821. With me on today's call are Albert Benchimol, our President and CEO; and Joseph Henry, our CFO.

Before I turn the call over to Albert, I will remind everyone that the statements made during this call, including the question-and-answer session, which are not historical facts, may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Federal Securities law.

Forward-looking statements contained in this presentation include, but are not limited to information regarding our estimate of losses related to catastrophes, policies, and other loss events, general economic, capital and credit market conditions, future growth prospects, financial results and capital management initiatives, evaluation of losses and loss reserves, investment strategies, investment portfolio and market performance, impact to the marketplace with respect to changes in pricing models, our expectations regarding pricing and other market conditions, and any merger related statements.

These statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. For a discussion of these matters, please refer to the risks factors section in our most recent Form 10-K on filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

We undertake no obligation to update or revise publicly any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

In addition, this presentation contains information regarding operating income, our consolidated underwriting income and adjusted group and segment results, which are non-GAAP financial measures within the meaning of the U.S. Federal Securities laws.

For a reconciliation of these items to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, please refer to our press release and financial supplement, which can be found on our website. The focus of today's call is a discussion of the financial results for AXIS Capital for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2014.

We expect that members of the investment community will have a number of questions with respect to our signing a definitive amalgamation agreement with PartnerRe last week.

Management will do its best to answer questions that may arise during this call, but will be limited in terms of what it can discuss with respect to the merger, prior to the following of our merger proxy. For information about the pending merger, please visit the Investor Information section of our website, www.axiscapital.com.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Albert..

Albert Benchimol

Thanks, Rick, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today. Last night, AXIS reported fourth quarter operating income of $120 million or $1.18 per diluted share, at annualized operating ROE for the quarter of 9.3%. For the year, we delivered an operating ROE of 10.8%.

We ended the quarter and year with diluted book value per share of $50.63, an increase of 10.5% over the last year. Adjusted for dividends, diluted book value grew 13% over the last 12 months. In addition, during the quarter, we returned $105 million in capital to our shareholders through share purchases and common share dividends.

And on a year-to-date basis, we returned $661 million, thus returning to shareholders 117% of the year's operating income in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

Over its relatively short lifespan, AXIS has delivered strong growth, taking our expertise into new geographies, expanding our franchises into adjacent markets and even entering wholly new specialty areas. However, not every period is conducive to such expansion, especially in the face of a difficult trading environment.

Gross premiums declined 8% in the fourth quarter, essentially timing differences on our large reinsurance contract and were flat for the full year. In many of our operations, we focused more on consolidating our position than in continuing to expand.

Still, we continue to achieve significant growth within certain business areas, including accident and health and U.S. casualty, which continues to benefit from price increases.

Each of our segments performed well in this quarter and delivered solid underwriting results, reflecting low cat activity albeit a little bit higher than in the fourth quarter of 2013, ongoing favorable reserve development and a broadly diversified well-constructed portfolio of risks.

While there is always some volatility in the timing and frequency of mid-sized losses, experience was close to average in the quarter. Other attritional loss experience also improved in a number of lines.

Importantly, our fourth quarter results showed meaningful positive results from the targeted portfolio enhancements, on which we work diligently throughout the year. Another proud achievement was our accident and health unit's positive contribution to income, prior to corporate overhead. It has met our stated objective.

And for the full year, our A&H business was essentially at a breakeven, right on schedule. Overall, we report consolidated combined ratio of 91.5%, including 2.2 points of cats and 6.9 points of favorable prior-year reserve development. This brings our consolidated combined ratio for the year to 91.6%.

Our net investment income declined 31% in the quarter, reflecting not only persistent below interest rate environment, but also the relatively weak equity markets in the quarter.

We recognized that there is normal market-based volatility in this line, and are comfortable that we have a high quality and balanced portfolio that is well-positioned for the uncertain investment environment. I'm proud of our progress and secure in our ability to succeed in a transitioning environment.

Nevertheless, we found an opportunity to further enhance our positioning.

Last week, we announced the signing of a definitive amalgamation agreement with PartnerRe, to create one of the world's preeminent specialty insurance and reinsurance companies, with gross premiums written in excess of $10 billion, total capital of more than $14 billion and cash and invested assets of more than $33 billion.

The completion of this merger will mark the beginning of a new and exciting chapter, which will leverage the best of both organizations to enhance our competitive positioning and drive significant incremental value creation across the board. I'll discuss this more broadly after Joe's discussion of our financial results.

Joe?.

Joseph Henry

first, cost related to our expense optimization efforts, specifically IT sourcing and lease abandonment of $6 million, that's $13 million for the total year; second, one-time cost related to severance and IT system write-offs of $7.4 million; and third, a fourth quarter catch up in our incentive compensation accrual to reflect total year performance of $4.3 million.

The bottomline here is that our normalized expense ratio for the quarter was 15.9% and 15.4% for the year-to-date, if you eliminate cost that we are incurring now to improve our expense ratio in the future, as we've outlined in our proper improvement plan and the non-recurring costs.

Overall, the company reported underwriting income of $113 million on a combined ratio of 91.5% for the fourth quarter. On a year-to-date basis, our underwriting income was $462 million with a combined ratio of 91.6%.

Net investment income was $79 million for the quarter, up from $67 million in the previous quarter and down from $114 million in the fourth quarter of 2013. The most significant driver of the quarter-over-quarter increase was the contribution to net investment income from our other investments portfolio.

Other investments contributed $12 million during the quarter versus a loss of $3 million last quarter and a gain of $40 million in the fourth quarter of 2013. In the aggregate, the total return on our cash and investments portfolio for the quarter was 0.1%. For the year, the total return of our cash and investments portfolio was 2%.

The positive total returns for the current quarter and the year were driven by realized gains on the sale of fixed income and equities and return on hedge fund holdings. This was tampered by price declines on our fixed maturities portfolio caused by the strengthening of the U.S.

dollar and the widening of credit spreads on both investment grade and high-yield corporate debt. We continue to hold a high-quality, well-diversified portfolio with cash and investment assets totaling $14.9 billion at December 31, down approximately $0.6 billion from September 30, and comparable to year ago.

The decrease during the quarter was principally due to the repayment of our senior notes, which I will discuss shortly. The duration of our fixed maturities portfolio was 2.9 years at December 31, no change from September 30, and down from 3.2 years at the end of December 2013.

Our fixed maturities weighted average credit rating remains unchanged at AA minus. Our total capital at December 31, 2014, was $6.8 billion, including $1 billion of senior notes and $628 million of preferred equity, a decrease of $0.5 billion from $7.3 billion at September 30, 2014.

The decrease was due to the repayment of the $500 million of our 5.75% senior unsecured notes that matured on December 1, 2014. During the quarter, we repurchased 1.5 million common shares at an average price of $50.16 per share for a total cost of $75 million.

For the year, our share repurchases totaled 11.8 million common shares, and represents over 10% of our shares outstanding at the beginning of the year, at an average price of $46.22 per share for a total cost of $543 million.

During the fourth quarter, we announced that effective January 1, 2015, the share repurchase authorization program was increased to $750 million of the company's common shares effective through December 31, 2016.

As already mentioned by Albert, during January 2015, we announced the signing of the definitive amalgamation agreement with PartnerRe Limited.

We are very excited at this announcement and we believe that we'll create one of the world's preeminent specialty insurance and reinsurance companies, with gross premiums written in excess of $10 billion, total capital of more than $14 billion, and cash and invested assets of more than $33 billion.

As part of this transaction, we will suspend our current share repurchase program until the closing of the merger.

However, provided that the market and financial conditions remain the same, we currently expect to continue our goal of returning approximately a 100% of our annual operating earnings and any excess capital to our shareholders in the form of common dividends and share repurchases as soon as the merger transaction has been completed.

While we work on completing the PartnerRe merger transaction, we continue to progress on the strategic expansion opportunities already initiative. We have been very pleased with the growth of our accident and health business.

Our Lloyd's unit is making good progress in the London market and we expect that our third-party capital initiative, AXIS Ventures will expand on its capabilities in its second year of operations. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Albert..

Albert Benchimol

Thank you, Joe. With respect to market conditions in insurance, we continue to see a leveling off of pricing overall.

Recall, however, that we had recently experienced several quarters of price increases, and notwithstanding recent developments, there remain good fundamentals and opportunities for profitable growth in many insurance lines of business and regions.

Within our insurance segment, during the fourth quarter, the overall AXIS insurance rate change was minus 1%, better than the minus 3% observed last quarter, but nevertheless down from the plus 1% experienced in the same quarter last year.

Rate change for the quarter was in line with that of the year overall, continuing the theme of relative stability in the overall market average, but with more pressure on property and some international specialty lines.

Generally, although not universally, there remains rationality in most price action, as evidenced by rate increases on accounts following loss activity. This drove a 6 point rebound relative to the prior quarter in rate change for our international division to minus 2% in the quarter across the various lines.

A number of large accounts in aviation and onshore energy, where we've observed recent loss activity, renewed with increased pricing. Casualty pricing remain strong, but rate increases have moderated particularly in U.S. AXIS Casualty.

Overall, positive rate change in our professional lines division averaged plus 1%, and it's been broadly stable since 2012. Some lines, such as AXIS D&O, saw rate pressure intensify during the quarter, but primary layers in a number of E&O lines showed positive rate change.

Importantly, we were able to affectively navigate the market in reshaping the primary U.S. public D&O portfolio identified for profit improvement, and are encouraged by the changes in portfolio composition and profitability achieved by our team.

The diversity in our insurance portfolio by line and geography is serving us well in this environment, as we've been able to place emphasis where business is performing better. Generally, the U.S.

remains the strongest of the geographies in which we operate with respect to pricing environment, and 50% of our global insurance business is generated from the U.S. with a strong presence in excess and surplus lines, professional liability and causality lines. Moving on to reinsurance.

At the January 1 renewal, the trading environment remain competitive, as has been widely reported. Multiyear commitments are in great demands, broadly impacting all lines of business and non-concurrency of terms is more prevalent in the marketplace. We participated selectively in a number of multiyear facilities, where it made sense to do so.

The greatest change in pricing was in the U.S. property catastrophe renewals, with rates down 5% to 15%. More broadly, the overall market experienced margin compression in the face of rate deterioration and pressure on ceding commissions. Approximately 50% of our 2014 annual reinsurance premium is renewable at the January 1 renewal date.

Agriculture reinsurance premiums renews in the first quarter, but not until much later in the quarter. For the expiring premium renewable on January 1, we estimate we increased premium by about 2% on a constant dollar basis.

Most lines were flattish with growth in motor and credit and surety lines, offsetting an 8% decline in cat business, where we moved away from inadequately priced opportunities.

Within motor, we shifted more to proportional business, where we expect to obtain better risk adjusted returns than in the excess of loss lines, which has declined as a proportion of our portfolio. We also increased our share of trade credit insurer business.

On a positive note, while reinsurance terms are not ideal, underlying businesses are performing well across most of our major product lines. As I've said before, there is no favorable tide to lift all boats in a transitioning market.

Quality of relationships, grant, reputation, service and claims management, financial strength and ratings all influence access to business opportunities. Risk selection, risk management and portfolio constructions are paramount in extracting the best performance out of a declining market.

In these attributes, we believe that AXIS has a strong track record and is well-positioned to succeed. That said, we're also recognizing some secular changes in our operating environment, resulting in clients demanding much more of their risk management providers.

Overall, there is a trend for clients to limit the number of companies they do business with, and they are prepared to reward carriers that provide outstanding service, technical expertise and capacity with a greater share of their business and increasingly with non-concurrent pricing.

AXIS has the breadth and depth to provide them with a meaningful, multifaceted relationship. We also have the financial strength and full scale services that set us apart from smaller players. These coupled with our innovation and technology strength have allowed us to mitigate the worst effects of a highly competitive market.

We remain confident that we will continue to do well, as a company with $7 billion in capital and $5 billion in gross premium. However, when the opportunity to merge with PartnerRe presented itself, we measured the best of both companies against the very attributes required for success in this more demanding environment.

We found a combination that we could reasonably expect to deliver a whole that was greater than the sum of the individual parts. Two strong and well-established companies coming together to create a top 20 global P&C leader, who has embedded talent, resources and combined market presence would position it as a formidable competitor.

Last week, during our call with the investment community, we talked in detail about the amalgamation agreement we signed with PartnerRe. But I'll take a moment here to offer further thoughts and updates.

Overall, this merger takes our franchise strength to the next level by significantly enhancing our scale and strategic flexibility, talent, capital and operating efficiencies.

With added scale and better strategic positioning in all three of our businesses, the merger offers greater flexibility to manage our profitability and to allocate resources across product lines to optimize growth, where we find the best opportunities, anywhere in the world.

Initially, it increases our percentage of business in the reinsurance sector, but our relative position in the reinsurance market would be so much stronger, and our standing as a top five P&C reinsurer and largest partner to our brokers should allow us to generate and convert on more business opportunities and deliver better profitability than that of a mid-sized reinsurer.

Our successful accident and health initiative would double in size and accelerate our ability to achieve our targeted returns. Our combined $1.5 billion life, accident and health business would rank among the top 10 global life reinsurers and be among the top three A&H player reinsurers in the U.S.

Our global specialty insurance business would benefit immediately from additional revenues and expanded geographic distribution. And with the backing of a $14 billion capital base and incremental ability to invest in growth, we should be able to deliver profitable growth to rebalance our consolidated portfolio.

The new company will be characterized by a strong ability to generate and deploy capital.

This is the result of strong combined earnings power, driven by enhanced market positioning, expense savings and other synergies, capital efficiencies made possible by the combination of our two companies, increased use of third-party capital to leverage our larger production capabilities and excess capital accumulated before the closing, as we both have suspended our buybacks pending the completion of the merger.

This is no small point, as both firms have demonstrated a very strong record of returning capital to shareholders over the years. And as Joe noted, we anticipate resuming share purchase activity immediately after the close of the merger.

With respect to earnings, as we've said, we expect to generate at least $200 million in annual pre-tax operating synergies, resulting mainly from savings and reinsurance support functions and corporate level expenses. We are confident these merger-related savings can be achieved within 18 months of the merger.

In addition, we estimate that approximately $25 million or about half of the expense savings we originally expected to obtain from AXIS' own expense optimization efforts will still be realizable in addition to the $200 million merger-related initiatives. Both organizations have started integration planning in earnest.

Feedback from our business partners has been very positive to date. Employees from both organizations are excited about combining the talent, market presence, knowledge and creativity of our organizations to benefit our customers, brokers and other business partners. They see the benefits to each of our businesses.

I am particularly proud that, notwithstanding the normal questions that arise shortly after such an announcement, we have redoubled the energies, not only to proceed with merger preparatory work, but also to continue to manage our business, service our clients and brokers and deliver on our business plans.

It gives me great confidence in our ability to effect a smooth integration and deliver on the potential created by this merger.

I've taken this time to discuss our merger with PartnerRe, because as Rick mentioned earlier, we have limited ability at this time to answer questions on the merger, as we are in the process of preparing the relevant proxy documentation with the SEC.

With that, I would like to open the line for questions related to our fourth quarter and full year results.

Operator?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Jay Cohen of Bank of America Merrill Lynch..

Jay Cohen

A couple of questions. I guess, Joe, on the comments on capital management, you talked about your desire to return operating earnings back to shareholders and maybe some additional capital, but you won't start until middle of the year.

Will you try to essentially return all of the year's earnings in half year or should we think of it as like a pro-rated sort of buyback?.

Joseph Henry

No. We try to return all of the operating earnings..

Jay Cohen

Secondly, the added expenses that you incurred this quarter in relation to some of your expense reduction initiatives, should we expect that to continue to some extent in 2015?.

Joseph Henry

Yes, Jay. As we've discussed before, we started that effort in the middle of 2014. And I think I've telegraphed before that we expect our expense ratio to go up in 2015, and then begin trending down in '16, as we get towards our goal in 2017..

Jay Cohen

And then one last question, more of a strategic question, maybe for Albert.

On the A&H side, you've obviously said that your scale increases pretty significantly with this deal, but are the businesses somewhat different? I mean if they're in somewhat different businesses, do you really get the benefit of added scale?.

Albert Benchimol

That's a very good question. I think the business are mostly complimentary, but not entirely complementary. So PartnerRe has a strong health reinsurance business in the United States. We also write some health reinsurance business, not only in the United States, but elsewhere in the world.

And so I think there's ability to leverage those two capabilities. On the life side, we are only a very, very small writer of life, mostly catastrophe level, high-level, high-end business. They have a much stronger franchise in life. So in both cases, we'll be able to leverage that.

But again, with regards to the operating structure, you would expect that the supporting operating structure of that business will definitely achieve some efficiencies. You don't need two leadership teams for that unit, for example..

Operator

Our next question is from Kai Pan of Morgan Stanley..

Kai Pan

First question is on your underlying combined ratio improvements year-over-year, it seems significant. That's after like about prior four quarters have elevated level due to the sort of non-cat sort of large losses as well as basic exchange.

I am wondering if the fourth quarter rate is a run rate going forward or do you see additional areas for improvements going forward?.

Joseph Henry

So I would say that we've had a very strong performance in the fourth quarter. I wouldn't say that that is a run rate number. But let me go through some of the details for you to give you a sense.

So first on insurance, it's a 6.4% improvement in the accident year ex-cat loss ratio, and the normal things that I go through are rate, trend, mix, experience, and anything else. So rate and trend was slightly negative during the quarter to the point of about 1.2 points. Mix was slightly negative to the point of 1.8 points.

And experience was positive to the extent of 8.6 point. So you can see that the experience we had in the fourth quarter was a large contributor to the improvement. I'd say we expect to continue to see improvements in our experience as we go forward in 2015, maybe not quite to the same extent that we've seen in Q4.

On the reinsurance side, we had a 2.2% improvement in the accident year loss ratio. Rate and trend was negative by 1.3%. Mix was, when I say negative, we're just shifting lines of business, 3.8%. And experience was positive by about 1%. So on the reinsurance side, the experience wasn't nearly as large as on the insurance side.

We would expect to see continued positive experience on our reinsurance segment as well. So I hope that gives you some of the background..

Kai Pan

Albert, the question on your commentary on the January renewal you mentioned about non-concurrency. Could you elaborate that a little more? You said, going forward, you see a differentiation between the reinsurance depending on the size and the breadth of the portfolio it can provide to the clients.

And also on the terms and conditions, do you also see some difference among the reinsurers?.

Albert Benchimol

Yes, we do. And again, I want to be clear, it's not with every account, but as I said increasingly we're seeing that. And clients are favoring their reinsurers, if you would, first by the amount of allocation they give them.

There could be some changes in the ceding commission, a little bit higher, a little bit lower depending on conditions and terms where one could reasonably argue for somewhat better terms on the margin with regards to the individual treaties..

Kai Pan

Could you quantify exactly sort of on the same kind of risk, what kind of return you see, the difference between the most favorable terms and then the least favorable ones..

Albert Benchimol

I don't think it's appropriate to do that. I think there are a number of factors, some of which are quantifiable, others aren't. So for example, you can easily quantify the pricing issue, but it's more difficult to quantify the wording and terms and condition issue.

And the wordings and terms and conditions are actually potentially much more valuable long-term.

Also how do you scale the value of a greater allocation on the more profitable treaties? I can tell you that we are very clear in our own minds that there are significant benefits, but it would be difficult to give you a precise analysis of that over the phone..

Operator

Our next question is from Vinay Misquith of Evercore ISI..

Vinay Misquith

Just a clarification on Kai's question, on the improvement in the accident year loss ratio ex-cat.

So if I understand it correctly, do you still expect further improvements in '15 versus '14 on the accident year loss ratio ex-cat, both in the primary insurance and in the reinsurance segments?.

Albert Benchimol

I would say, we expect sure improvement in the insurance accident year loss ratios. As you know, going back to CMS and professional lines we went through, I'll call it a profit improvement plan, in that line of business as well. And it takes time to actually have that flow-through financials.

So we would expect to see the benefit of that in '15 and in the '16. So it will take a while to get there. We had very positive results on the property lines that can move around as you know.

On the reinsurance side, while there are difficult market conditions out there, we still believe there is room to improve profit with the existing book of business that we have. So we'd expect some improvement, but I wouldn't extrapolate what you saw in the fourth quarter for the insurance side for sure and reinsurance..

Joseph Henry

And Vinay, if I could add to that. Joe, went through it, but I'd like to bring you back to the conversation we had six months ago when we talked about our overall program, to try and improve our combined ratio by 4 to 5 points over the average achieved in the first half of 2014.

And you'll recall at that point we gave you a number of different areas of progress. So the first one was that there were areas like CMS where we were continuing to work to improve the profitability of the book of business and we would expect that as our corrective actions took hold, we would over time achieve a lower loss ratio.

And we I think predicted that we would be 1 to 2 points lower in that area by the end of the year and we delivered on that. And I think our team did a great job. Our actuaries have a lot of confidence in the quality of the book of business. And of course, as we continue to earn outside book, we expect to see further benefits.

The second thing we talked about was the very strong transformation of our organization towards optimizing the use of data and analytics to shape all of our portfolios.

And I can assure that as much work as we've done in 2014, there is still a lot of work to be done going forward, and I expect further benefits of the improvements in the overall quality and balance of our portfolios, as we apply the findings of our analytics to better shape the portfolio.

The third part that we talked about was that we believe that over time the changes that we've made should make our portfolio less susceptible to large and outside cat losses.

And while that has not yet been tested, because we've had a low cat environment, we continue to have confidence with the changes we made in our cat book that will result on average in a better relative performance than it's had in the past with regard to cat losses.

So there are a number of areas that we still will continue to work on, which we continue to anticipate will deliver positive results, the volatile lines, property and so on. It was an average quarter. We will have other quarters that will be a little bit better or a little bit worse.

But we do believe that we continue to make progress in the overall quality and profitability of our book of business..

Joseph Henry

I'll just add one thing to what Albert said with respect to new initiatives, because we outlined that as part of our profit improvement plans. We are reaching critical mass with our new initiatives and that's lessening the drag on our results.

We had over $100 million more in gross premiums written, written in new initiatives in 2014 than we did in 2013. And the combined ratios of those businesses are improving. So I just wanted to add that to what Albert said..

Vinay Misquith

And just wanted to clarify, so the improvements you're seeing in '15 is versus the fourth quarter of this year, correct? Not for the entire, correct?.

Albert Benchimol

That's correct, subject to the normal volatility that you have to expect in our business..

Vinay Misquith

Now, within the primary insurance that's understandable, because you had explained to us what was happening. Just a little surprise on the reinsurance side, since we're hearing pricing is pretty vague.

So curious how you're managing to get margin improvement in reinsurance, despite pricing being down quite significantly?.

Albert Benchimol

That's a very fair point. And I hope we were clear when we discussed the fact that these improvements that we were doing were independent of market conditions. And to the extent that we have adverse market conditions, obviously we will have to absorb that.

But where we feel good is that we'd rather be facing deteriorations in markets with some internal efforts that we know will offset the headwinds of adverse market. So we're not saying that we're going to get from our original plan that it was 4 point to 5 point improvement in the combined ratio, no matter what happened in the market.

What we are saying is we expect that internally we can deliver 4 points to 5 points improvement, to the extent that the market goes against us, obviously that improvement will be offset by any reduction created by the market..

Vinay Misquith

And then one last point on the expense saves.

I didn't know, if I just understood it correctly, so was it $50 million of expense saves that AXIS thought that they would achieve, and now post-merger you think that you can still sort of achieve the $25 million, is that right?.

Albert Benchimol

Yes. Again, recall that there were two components to our improvement in the expense ratio. The first, as Joe just pointed out, was simply the fact that we have significant number of businesses that were still in growth mode. And that for the moment are generating premiums, but not of a sufficient amount to achieve the target G&A ratio.

So as these businesses grow, just through their growth, not through a reduction of expense, they will deliver a reduction in our expense ratio.

In addition, there were a number of programs that we had put in place, and we had highlighted some of them to you, including office rationalization, vendor management, IT, outsourcing, some additional work that we were doing that we believe would generate a true either cost savings or further cost avoidance stopping the cost curve.

When we looked at the merger with PartnerRe, clearly there is a fair amount of overlap in the areas of reinsurance and in the areas of corporate expenses.

To the extent that we were going to look at revamp some of those through the merger, obviously, the original savings that we had anticipated in reinsurance and corporate were now subsumed by the new initiatives that came about as a result of the merger.

But as we've just discussed, there was very little overlap in the reinsurance and A&H business, and therefore many of the initiatives that we had in place will continue to provide some benefit there..

Joseph Henry

I think you just mentioned reinsurance..

Albert Benchimol

Did I say? I apologize. Insurance and A&H. My apologies..

Vinay Misquith

So from the $200 million just to minus $25 million, which was an overlap and the rest is you should still get it, is that right?.

Albert Benchimol

Again, I think we should be precise. The $200 million is what is achievable as a result of the merger. And then we believe that there is an additional $25 million or so that is available in areas that have not been as affected by the merger, specifically in the areas of insurance and A&H..

Operator

Our next question is from Dan Farrell of Sterne, Agee..

Dan Farrell

I had a question on the insurance segment with regard to any mix changes you're still trying to do.

Are you still expanding lines that might be having better loss ratio? Is there any mix component to think about in the trend of the accident year loss ratio from that perspective? And then also with regard to your efforts to improve overall risk of the book, you've done a lot in terms of reducing aggregate catastrophe exposure.

How far along do you think you are there? Do you think there is more to do? And obviously, you don't necessarily see the benefits of that until there is an event in fact that can actually hurt your -- make the earnings look little worse until there is something so. I was wondering if you could just talk about that a little more as well..

Albert Benchimol

I'd say we're pretty close to achieving steady state in terms of the desired book that we want. That said, some of the areas where we are growing, the same areas that we were talking about reaching scale, include our reentry into the U.S.

primary casualty business, the retail access casualty business, the DP&E business, MedMal, all of which are more in the professional lines area than they are in the property type areas. So as these grow, clearly they will have a modest impact on the book.

On the other hand, our Lloyds operation is giving us access to more business, which was more akin to what we have in our international division, and that does tend to have a lower loss ratio.

And as we've spoken about expanding that book of business to more into Asia, into Latin America and so on, should provide more of that property-type or specialty-type loss ratio. So we start some initiatives that are growing. On the other hand, I think the strategic shift is pretty much where it needs to be.

Now, with regard to catastrophe, obviously it will depend on the opportunities that we have available to us and you will have noticed a small increase in some areas with regards to our cat lines.

Increasingly, we view our production of catastrophe premium both as an opportunity to create a good book for ourselves, but also to generate attractive risk for our third-party capital partners. So we could continue to be active and growing on the cat side, even if at some point in time we might not necessarily be growing on a net basis..

Dan Farrell

And then just a question on accident and health, can you expand a little more on your efforts to grow it on an insurance basis versus reinsurance, where that mix is and how you're thinking about the growth on an insurance basis? And then can you remind us are there any profitability difference if you do it on insurance or reinsurance basis?.

Joseph Henry

Dan, in terms of the mix between insurance and reinsurance as we stand now, and this is on a gross premiums written basis, it's 52% insurance versus 48% reinsurance. And if you split that between, I'll call it, on North America business and international that split is about 46%, 54%. Let me just make a couple of comments on A&H.

I know you didn't specifically ask this, but I'll mention it anyway. As Albert said, we're on track with our plans. We had an excellent year in A&H in 2014. We exceeded our production goals. We wrote $280 million in premium, which is above our goal. We've exceeded the profit goals. And frankly, we have a good pipeline of future opportunity.

So back to your prior question in terms of the mix, A&H contributed substantially to, I'll call it, the growth in mix in the loss ratio, it was about 4% of the change in the mix in the quarter and about 1.7 points on a year-to-date basis.

So I would agree with what Albert said, but I would just say that in terms of mix, we would expect with the growing opportunities we have in A&H that that become a bigger contributor, if you will, to the change in mix..

Operator

Our next question is from Ryan Byrnes of Janney Capital..

Ryan Byrnes

Just had a question, could you guys just give a little more color on the weather derivative loss in the quarter? Just wanted to see what that is and see if that's moddable going forward?.

Albert Benchimol

There are a number of articles in that line. So there are really three different pieces in that line. One is the expenses of managing our third-party capital is in there, which is an expense. The second issue is, that's where we put our crop hedges and you'll recall that we had a benefit with regard to the crop hedges in the third quarter.

Now, crop prices did go up in the fourth quarter, which reduced the value of those hedges, and so that ends up giving you a contribution to a negative.

And the third piece, and the largest piece of that, is with regard to our weather and commodities unit, which provided some warm weather converges to European utilities, among other coverages that we provide.

The first half of the winter was actually quite warm in Europe and so there were some mark-to-market adjustments to reflect that, and that's basically what the issue is.

Without providing any guidance, the January weather appears to have been colder, and so we would expect to see some, at least through the end of January some favorable adjustment to that number, but these are derivatives and therefore they are booked in a mark-to-market basis.

And until you close up the contract, there's going to be some volatility there..

Ryan Byrnes

And also just quickly wanted to see the crop book. Just wanted to see where you guys are booking it for the year, because we've seen some primary guys adjust their loss ratios lower.

Just wanted to see where you guys are seeing that book?.

Albert Benchimol

Let me give you an overview of agriculture for the year, Ryan. We ended the year at $166 million in gross written premium versus about $132 million a year ago. We had a small underwriting loss in the fourth quarter. We expect full year results to be in the $110 million to $115 million range.

So based upon fourth quarter activity, we increased, if you will, the expected results from where they were in the third quarter. Just to talk about fourth quarter for a minute, prices improved from Q3 in the underlying commodities that we had on the revenue products that we discussed in Q3.

However, we've incurred slightly higher claim activity and also had a slight hedge loss, and in fact that offset the price improvement. So that gives you a little color on the fourth quarter and then what we expect for the full year..

Operator

Our next question is from Josh Shanker of Deutsche Bank..

Josh Shanker

I wanted to talk a little bit about the loss ceded the minority interest, and given your disclosure around that what's inside the reinsurance other line.

I wonder if those two lines are related at all?.

Albert Benchimol

The risk that we cede to third-party capital is not all. First of all, its important to say that it's not all noted in that line, because what you have in that line are risk that are ceded through our specialty vehicles.

We do also cede other risk to third-party capital through transformers and other rated parties that simply find its way through the reinsurance ceded line. On the other hand, we still get the same terms and benefits as we would in third-party capital management.

That line that you have there does in fact include their share of the gains and losses of the business we cede to them. It is independent of the other income line..

Josh Shanker

The loss that they receded in the fourth quarter relates to crop or where is that loss coming from?.

Albert Benchimol

That's generally the crop book. Actually, let me clear, the rest of the businesses that we cede to them have been profitable to them. So the one area where there has been a loss transferred to third-party capital partners has been in the crop area..

Joseph Henry

And, Josh, just to supplement that a little bit. During 2014 we completed eight transactions in AXIS Ventures. And while the financial results are not very material to 2014, it sets us up very well for 2015. I'll say segment income for AXIS Ventures was approximately $3 million in 2014. That will just give you an idea..

Josh Shanker

And one question, and feel free to say it relates to the combination you want and try to avoid answer that question. Obviously, there's a large breakup team in place for both companies in the event that someone else would try and disrupt this merger.

To what extent is AXIS feeling that they are capable of looking at a better offer from someone to buy AXIS? And to what extent with the change in management at Partner do you think Partner is prepared also to view other offers in the time running up to this combination?.

Albert Benchimol

I don't think you really expect me to answer that question, do you?.

Josh Shanker

Well, I mean, do you think the possibility that you could entertain other offers or is your door open to other offers? I don't know if that's a problematic question..

Albert Benchimol

As you know, Josh, this goes back to the answer I gave. These are all hypothetical and speculative areas and we wouldn't address those..

Operator

Our next question is from Brian Meredith of UBS..

Brian Meredith

Just one quick one here.

Albert on the trade credit reinsurance business, any pressure there from a loss trend due to energy price declines, FX, all that kind of stuff? And then kind of as a follow on that, is that a business where the cedents are focused on or look at concentration of reinsurance companies on their programs?.

Albert Benchimol

With regard to the trade credit, it really truly is operating receivables mostly.

And as you know, this is very short-term business, and the leading trade credits ensures have a very strong capability of adapting their book of business of adjusting their limits, such that basically the true-tail on that business on a practical basis is less than six months.

So when they see things that are moving forward, they stop ensuring new receivables, those receivables get paid, and their exposure comes down. It's a line of business that we like, because again, our trade credit partners do a very, very good job of monitoring their exposures.

With regards to managing their concentrations with reinsurers, I expect that everybody looks at their concentration with reinsurers. However, they always give more to those reinsures who have more capital, better ability to service them, and are on a strong basis. So I wouldn't read anything into that answer..

Operator

Our next question is from Charles Sebaski of BMO Capital Markets..

Charles Sebaski

I guess the first question, Albert, regarding the termination provision of your agreement with PartnerRe calls for a five-day reaffirm from the Board in the advent of alternative offers.

And given the news reports yesterday of alternative offers coming out, is PartnerRe's Board on the clock, if you will, as far as you're aware?.

Albert Benchimol

Charles, two things. One is everything that you're referring to it continues to be speculative. And secondly, the specific terms of the contract I think are best left to discussion, once we file the proxy..

Charles Sebaski

I guess a question on the accident year results of the insurance business.

Joe, you mentioned that the results, 8 points improvement were from actual year-over-year improvement?.

Joseph Henry

Yes..

Charles Sebaski

And I guess my question is, I think, and Albert said, it was an average property year loss.

So I guess what I'm curious about in that improvement is how much of that improvement is kind from lack of fortuitous events as opposed to the re-rating of the book that happened over the first half of the year?.

Joseph Henry

So let me give you the details on how the experience breaks down first. If you look at three lines of business, it's primarily generated by property, it's generated by accident and health, and it's generated by professional lines. So let me give you an overall answer to it.

In Q4 2014, we had cat and weather-related losses of $21 million or 2.2 points and mid-sized losses of $26 million or 2.8 points for a total of $47 million or 5 points. In Q4 2013, we have cat and weather-related losses of minus $5 million or 0.5 points and mid-sized losses of $51 million or 5.5 points.

So what I'm saying is in total, we had about the same level of total cat and weather-related and mid-sized losses, but we had much lower mid-sized losses. So our improvement was primarily, because we've had actually a pretty good third quarter and a very good fourth quarter in terms of loss activity on the property lines of business..

Charles Sebaski

And one final one. You had a large change in case reserves in the quarter in the insurance book.

I was just wondering how that gets worked out in terms of, I guess, some understanding on how? I think its $57.5 million reduction in case reserves, is that just closed accounts for 2014, is the reason for that?.

Joseph Henry

Yes. I don't have a detailed breakdown of the case reserve changes, but I can tell you that we had one or two large cases that were settled during the fourth quarter. And that actually was one of the reasons for the increase in our pay to incurred loss ratios in the financial supplement..

Operator

Our next question is from Meyer Shields of KBW..

Meyer Shields

Albert, on the primary side, is there any increased exposure in trade credit from foreign currency fluctuations?.

Albert Benchimol

Not really, again, because those are short-term. I think the trade credit first of all is on the reinsurance side, not on the primary side. And we do have a large European book, we do have a fair amount of premiums that are written in euros.

So when we translate those premiums going forward, I think there will be an impact both on the premium as well as on any losses or any expenses that we incur. So there will be that impact. But in terms of the business itself, I don't anticipate any material increase in risk profile, because of the FX changes..

Operator

Our last question is from Cliff Gallant of Nomura..

Cliff Gallant Head of Investor Relations & Corporate Development

How would you characterize the run rate level of ROE right now? I know it's sort of a general question, there's a lot of moving pieces behind that. But you started the call by highlighting the 9.3% you got in the quarter.

But if I were to normalize that by excluding some of the one-time expenses, but also looking at it excluding reserve releases, on an accident year basis the ROE is sort of mid-single digit.

And for a quarter without any large property or catastrophes, that doesn't seem like that's the level where you'd want to be?.

Albert Benchimol

Well, that's fair. I would say three things to that. The first is part of having a reserving philosophy that generates relatively regular reserve releases incorporates booking the current year more prudently. And so whatever number you have, you're probably looking at something, which is a more prudent evaluation of the loss ratio.

And if you were to go purely to the midpoint, I would anticipate that you would see a higher number. That would be number one. Number two, we did have two negatives in the quarter. One being, what I would call, some of the volatility on the hedge fund returns.

So if you look at our average hedge returns for the year or for a three-year period, they certainly have looked better than they have recently, so that's a hit.

And the third area is what we discussed earlier with regard to the fact that there are some investments that we are making, and frankly some one-time expenses that we don't expect to recur on the expense side.

So those are the three factors that would make your, I think you said mid-single digit, those are the three factors that I would say you would have to normalize to your mid-single digit number that you achieved to obtain what we believe is a more run rate ROE number for an organization..

Cliff Gallant Head of Investor Relations & Corporate Development

I can't help, but comment on the first point with the reserve releases and thinking about what is run rate. You're saying that in valuing a company you should consider reserve redundancies and reserve releases as part of the ongoing earnings power..

Albert Benchimol

I would hope to god that you would consider that and a lot of other things, Cliff..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Albert Benchimol for any closing remarks. End of Q&A.

Albert Benchimol

Well, thank you very much for your attention and for your time here. These are obviously very exciting times here at AXIS. Again, I could not finish this call without thanking our team for the great work that they've done during the year.

This fourth quarter result, and specifically the improvements that we've achieved and the number of the underwriting areas, really speak to the focus that our team has had at using data and analytics to improve the quality of their portfolio.

And it speaks to their relationships with the clients and brokers that they've been able to make those changes, while still retaining high retention ratios and winning new business. I think that speaks a lot to the quality of the AXIS franchise.

And again, we hope to be speaking with you soon with further progress on this exciting merger that we have with PartnerRe. Thank you all..

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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