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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q4
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Executives

David Storch - Chairman, CEO John Fortson - VP, CFO, Treasurer Timothy Romenesko - President, Chief Operating Officer of Expeditionary Services John Holmes - Vice President, Chief Operating Officer of Aviation Services.

Analysts

Robert Spingarn - Credit Suisse Kevin Ciabattoni - KeyBanc Capital Markets J.B. Groh - D.A. Davidson Stan Mann - Mann Family Investments.

Operator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to AAR's Fiscal 2015 Fourth Quarter and Year-End Earnings Call.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that comments made during the call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as noted in our news release and the Risk Factors section of the company's Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended May 31, 2014.

In providing forward-looking statements, the company assumes no obligations to provide updates to reflect future circumstances or anticipated or unanticipated events. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to AAR's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, David Storch..

David Storch

Good morning and thank you for participating today. As you know, yesterday last evening we put out our fourth quarter and year-end release. What I'd like to do is just spend some time going through where we are at and where we are heading, and I'll then turn it over to John who will fill in some of the financial data.

So as we indicated at last year's annual planning session, we felt that we'd be better served, our shareholders will be better served if we narrowed our focus and zeroed in on our industry-leading services business as an area for growth and opportunity.

So, we set out during the year and determined that we would sell our large manufacturing businesses, and like I said focus on our industry leading service activity, and we really think about the activity in four phases.

Phase 1, which we indicate was the sale of Telair Cargo Group which was completed at the end of March, and then the classification of our precision machining businesses as discontinued operations.

Upon completing this, we do still maintain our mobility business, which as you know is an industry leading business currently still off the point at the cycle, but a business nevertheless that has served the company well over a long period of time and a very strong management team, very strong position, and unique business, and we feel at this point in time that we'd like to figure out still how to maximize that business and our investment in that business.

Phase 2, we paid down our high yield bonds, and we returned a significant amount of money, capital I should say to shareholders. So, we paid down our $325 million of roughly 7% interest rated bonds. By paying that down, we will save about $23 million to $24 million a year in interest expense.

And then, we also as you know, through the tender offer purchased back 4.2 million shares. We've purchased another 0.5 million shares in the open market. So we've returned about $152 [ph] million in cash to shareholders here through share repurchase and dividends.

Phase 3, we've really been looking through the balance of our portfolio to identify and exit underperforming activities. So again, we could zero in on and focus on those areas where we feel we have the most potential and biggest opportunities.

So you see that we sold off the remaining of our owned aircraft from our aircraft leasing portfolio which we really started disinvesting back in 2007, this is more or less the tail and we saw an opportunity here to generate some cash and get our aircraft sales and leasing folks focused on other activity and more profitable ventures.

And then lastly, Phase 4, which we're currently in, we expect to grow our businesses by taking advantage of our very strong balance sheet. In the fourth quarter, you will see that the Aviation Service segment sales grew 17%. That's organic growth largely driven by the growth in our supply chain businesses as well as improvements in our MRO.

We also as you know, announced in Q1 of this fiscal year that we have closed down our Hot Springs operations. We are moving that work over to Oklahoma City. Our goal there is to just figure out how to maximize our footprint and drive more margin through our service businesses.

Now the Expeditionary Service segment saw a sales decline of 51% on a year-over-year basis largely driven by lower -- fewer flying positions in airlift, but also lower revenues at mobility just reflecting reduced demand from the DoD for those types of products.

But we do anticipate that this is at a bottom point for that business and we are hopeful that things will turn in our favor, more in our favor in that business as this year kind of progresses. The Airlift business did incur losses during the period as we continued to transition assets from Afghanistan into other theatres.

We have incurred program startup costs and costs associated with repositioning some of the assets. But we also, on the positive we've been awarded over $500 million in new contract awards, and as you know we have a very robust deal pipeline.

Some of the businesses have not happened as timely as we'd like to see, but it still is out there and we still believe we are in pretty good shape to capture more business in the airlift operation.

The balance sheet, on capital structure, so we've reduced our net debt by $446 million on a year-on-year basis, so our net debt-to-capital ratio at the end of May is 10.5% and that's down from about 35% at that point in time prior year.

So we are sitting today with close to $450 million of cash in availability, and we feel pretty good about our powder and our ability to go ahead and grow our remaining businesses based on having this stronger balance sheet. We also, as I indicated, bought in some shares.

Our share count is down from 39.2 [ph] at the end of the last year to 34.9 [ph] at the end of the latest fiscal year. So we think we have good leverage and really good possibilities and a really good opportunity pool out there that we're looking for.

So when I think about where we're heading, which I think is a critical question for you all would be, I want to take our industry-leading supply chain business and MRO businesses where we have performed exceptionally well and grow these businesses. I'd like to grow them geographically.

So I'd like to have more content outside the United States, and this is a drive we've been on for the last few years and you may recall last year we were successful in buying out the Sabena supply chain business, Sabena Technics supply chain business, and we're looking at other opportunities along those lines, and having this stronger balance sheet, we feel really good about our ability to go ahead and growth that business.

We're also looking at other MRO opportunities. We did announce an MOU with South Africa technical operations to explore doing work in that market.

Once upon a time, that was one of the industry-leading MRO facilities, more or less deteriorated over the last few couple of decades and they have a motivation to improve their position, and they sought out AAR as a partner to help them achieve that.

So we think we can potentially look at that low cost environment for us to grow more of our -- grow our MRO business outside the United States.

The airlift business as I indicated, we have as a result of draw down in Afghanistan we have taken our fleet count from nine different fleet types we will down for five fleet types there once we start operating the AW189s over in the Falklands. So we are looking to grow that business through the, do more of what we're currently doing in Africa.

We have placed a couple of aircraft into Iraq. We still do have positions in Afghanistan.

We expect those to continue and then we're looking to see if there are some opportunities in the Gulf Coast market which the government provided the equipment that we'll operate on behalf of the government as well as more niche markets that we think are out there for us.

And again we have I think an excellent leadership team at the helm of that business and they will win their fair share of business going forward. So in summary, from my vantage point this has been a very momentous year. I think it has been a great year for the Company.

If you look at, if I may just for a second, if you look at how we built this Company we looked at the market terrain post 9/11 let's say and we've viewed the need to go ahead and diversify our product mix. Largely coming into 9/11 we were very heavily dependent on the U.S. domestic commercial airline industry.

We now believe that that industry is in pretty good of healthy position and the need for us to be as diversified and have as many activities going on was not as prevalent as they had been, say 15 years ago. So, when I look at the portfolio today, I feel very positive about the mix of businesses.

I feel exceptionally positive about our balance sheet and our financial flexibility and when I look out into the future I get very excited about what's in front of us as a company.

When I think about the year that we're about to go into, clearly the fourth quarter was a lot of moving parts and as I indicated strength in our supply chain and MRO businesses weaknesses in our Expeditionary services.

I believe as we enter the new fiscal year we should continue to see the strength in the aviation service side and we should start seeing improvements in our Expeditionary services activity.

And as the year progresses as particularly as we start operations in the Falklands that business returns to profitability, decent profits I should say before the year is out. So, I'm going to turn the call over to John and I'll let John describe some of the financial items. Thanks John..

John Fortson

Thanks David. I trust that you guys have had a chance to read our earnings release. It was a very busy year for AAR and I'll try and put some color around the events that occurred in the fourth quarter and the effects they had both on the quarter and on the full year.

Let me start by saying sales for the quarter of $450.8 million were 1.1% less than prior year sales. As David mentioned we had strong results in Aviation Services, but they were not sufficient to offset the decline of our Expeditionary Services segment, which as you guys are aware is heavily leveraged to the defense markets.

On the profitability side our results were impacted by the unusual charges a result of us refocusing our platform to product lines that we consider core to our services offering going forward. During the fourth quarter we recorded the following operational charges from our continuing operations.

$69.5 million in impairment charges and other losses are related to certain product lines identified as underperforming and are not a part of the Company's strategy going forward.

The majority $61.4 million of these actions relate to our Aviation Services segment and include $17.9 million for sold aircraft in the aircraft lease portfolio, $43.6 million in inventory and supply chain in MRO businesses that are in excess to ARR's need or where we're exiting certain lines and $8.2 million for certain aircraft and inventory that are in the Expeditionary Services segment.

Besides those, we also took charges related to our recapitalization of our corporate restructuring and they also are in the continuing operations for the fourth quarter.

$44.9 million loss recognized in the extinguishment of our high yield debt, $4.5 million in charges related to the corporate office restructuring including writing down certain corporate assets and severance which are recorded in the SG&A line and then $2 million in charges for an early termination of a swap and cap arrangement that's recorded in our interest expense line.

As a result of the above actions and in combination with the reduced share count which we anticipate to be $34.9 million for the start of this coming fiscal year, we expect to achieve significantly better operating income to net income conversion. Also during the fourth quarter we recorded the following charges from discontinued operations.

We had a pre-tax gain net of transaction expenses in fees of $198.6 million from the sale of the Telair Cargo Group. The gain excludes $35 million of contingent consideration which could be realized prior to December 31, 2015. We also had an additional $11.1 million impairment charge to reduce the carrying value of Precision Systems businesses.

The total impact for that for the course of the year is $57.5 million. Fiscal year 2015 adjusted financials for the unusual items will result in $0.87 per share on a continuing basis or $2.51 on a consolidated basis. SG&A as a percentage of sales in the fourth quarter was 12.3%.

This is higher than the last few quarters and it is due to some extent to the lower sales volume, but also due to the effects of some of the charges that I have outlined. The same is true for the operating margins also negative due to the charges that we took. During the fourth quarter the Company used $52 million in cash flow from operations.

This was negatively impacted by the Telair Cargo Group sale tax requirements and was also reduced by some of the cash generation in our Expeditionary Services segment. We had capital expenditures Q4 of $22.6 million. The company paid dividends totaling $3 million.

For the year-over-year it was $43 million of cash from operations and our total capital expenditures were $46.3 million. We de-levered significantly and we reduced our net indebtedness as David mentioned by $446 million, ending the year with net debt of $99 million, our net debt-to-EBITDA is less than 1.0 down from 2.3 times last year.

Net interest expense for the fourth quarter increased to $7.1 million, but this included as I mentioned before the $2 million associated with the one-time settlement of the cap and swap, our net interest expense numbers will be significantly lower next year as a result of our large debt pay down.

Depreciation and amortization including amortization of stock based compensation was $76.9 million for the year. In the fourth quarter, we entered a sale and leaseback transaction for two aircrafts supporting our new contract in the Falklands. In addition, in June we sold one Bell 214 aircraft bringing our total aircrafts held for sale to eight.

The current book value of assets held for sale is approximately $14 million. As we’ve alluded to in some of our previous conversations, our effective tax rate for 2015 was 34.4%. Thanks for your attention and I’ll turn the call back over to David for some closing comments..

David Storch

Thanks John. Let me just say the operational charges that John referred to were taken and the primary motivation there is get our team and organization focused around higher performing opportunities, higher margin opportunities.

So we exited certain product lines in our landing gear repair business, we exited certain product lines in our trading activities, all geared again getting people really focused on higher margin opportunities and that’s the theme [ph] you will be hearing from us throughout the year.

In any event, let me now turn it back to the moderator to open up for any questions..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Robert Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Robert Spingarn

Good morning David and John..

David Storch

Good morning..

Robert Spingarn

David at a high level, is there a reason you haven’t given us a more specific guidance for 2016?.

David Storch

Yes Rob, what we would like to do is, we would like to let the year kick in, let's start the year. We have a fair amount of variability in our airlift business, and as I’ve indicated, we've won some contracts and we do have some contracts we believe we’re going to win.

So there is a little bit of far enough range at this stage that I think we prefer not to put out the numbers at this point..

Robert Spingarn

Can I ask you then just a couple of more specific questions, at least it may give us some help in that area, one would be the $500 million in new contracts for airlift, what period of time do those cover?.

David Storch

Well, the largest contract is the Falklands contract which is $339 million, and that’s over a 12-year period..

Robert Spingarn

Okay..

David Storch

And then the balance of the contracts are three years and one contract is a five-year..

Robert Spingarn

Okay.

And then in terms of the fleet, are you down to how many aircraft are you down to now, I think you said 21 are in contract service?.

John Fortson

Hi Rob, it’s John, yes so when we talk, we talk in terms of contract and revenue generating positions. We finished the year with 19 positions. Sitting here today, we are at 21..

Robert Spingarn

Do you have a rough idea where you expect to close out the year -- if or range perhaps that maybe reflects…?.

John Fortson

Yes and so, we based on current deal flow, based on current contracts, we’re looking at 32 at the end of the year..

Robert Spingarn

Okay. Okay.

And then how do we think about margins going forward in the two businesses? Do you think as volumes improve in aviation we can get some margin lift there? You’ve done the consolidation, I assume that starts to help at some point, are you doing that in August? And then how do we think about the profitability or the incremental profitability of the new work in Expeditionary? Thanks..

David Storch

Yes, so we have historically had very strong margins in the Expeditionary segment that’s going to be volume based, so as the volume picks up, we’ll start seeing margin throughput from that business. So, right now in both businesses, in Expeditionary, you’re at the kind of at the bottom point of the historical results cycle, if you will.

In terms of the MRO in supply chain, I would anticipate that we’ll see better margins throughout the year. So the supply chain margins will improve as volumes grow as well as the MRO.

Then the MRO, the move out of Hot Springs saves us about $1.5 million a year or adds $1.5 million a year to the margin, the gross margin for that section of our business..

Robert Spingarn

Okay, thank you..

David Storch

Yep..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Ciabattoni with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Hi, good morning David and John. Thanks for taking my questions here..

David Storch

Good morning. Sure..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Just to followup on Rob’s last question, any disruption that we would see over the next quarter to as Hot Springs shuts down or I guess any other one-time charges that might be kind of residual over the next quarter or two?.

David Storch

You know what, the one-time charge from that is what about $1 million from the shutdown of Hot Springs. I believe that for the most part, I can’t think of any other charges that we see coming at us. We will be selling some airlift aircraft.

The net effect though of the sale of the aircraft is about I would say somewhere between $18 million and $22 million of sales will probably be neutral, we wouldn’t expect losses, if anything we might have slight gains from those sales.

So we don’t expect any other noise other than John referred to the tale to the Darwin, I’m sorry for the Telair transaction of up to $35 million pattern that would be a positive impact..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Okay, that’s helpful..

David Storch

That 18 to 22 Kevin includes inventory that’s associated with some of those aircraft down there..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Right, okay got it. Yep. And then just touching on Airlift, so you added two positions to go from 19 to 21 post the close of the quarter here.

Can you just help us, I mean should we expect to see a sequential growth in Airlift revenues as we go into Q1 because of that, or are those not active yet, so the revenue is not going to flow through? I know obviously it will have some impact, negative impact on the gross margin line for startup costs that you mentioned, just trying to get a handle on what to expect in terms of the revenue from those two positions?.

Timothy Romenesko

Yes, so Kevin this is Tim Romenesko. So, yeah and so, we really see the revenue ramp later in the fiscal year when the larger programs kick in.

In the early part of the fiscal year, we will be incurring costs associated with the startup of the Falklands program, and that includes taking on the new aircraft and includes the pilot training, building up the maintenance capability.

So those costs are fairly significant and will kind of mute some of the positive impact of the new aircraft that we’re bringing on board.

But once we get into, once we get the Falkland’s contract ramping and we get the cumulative effect of the other aircraft coming on, that business will be generating decent returns and will be kind of back to not exactly where it was before, but approaching its peak performance..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Okay, thanks Tim. And then the last one from me and I’ll jump back in queue here.

If you could just give an update on kind of what you’re seeing at Lake Charles in terms of capacity and business development there? And then maybe a quick update on progress at Rockford?.

John Holmes Chief Executive Officer, President & Chairman of the Board

Sure. This is John Holmes. I am responsible for the Aviation Services Group. At Lake Charles, we’re still on a hiring phase there. We went through quite a ramp up period in FY 2015. We expect to get to at least a breakeven operation there in FY 2016.

We’ve got some significant programs starting with Delta Airlines that will be ramping up in the fall and so we’re looking forward to the positive impact there out of Lake Charles.

And Hot Springs, the consolidation actually will be done by the end of this month and we’ll have exited, so the main customer that was in Rockford was Air Wisconsin there transitioning to Oklahoma City and then by the end of August we’ll have exited the operations in Hot Springs..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Okay, thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of J.B. Groh with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

J.B. Groh

Hey thanks guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Hey could you talk about this organic growth in supply chain and MRO, could you maybe break that out between the two businesses just generally?.

David Storch

Can you repeat that, can you just repeat that please and we weren’t able to hear you..

J.B. Groh

Oh, I’m sorry, the organic growth in the Aviation Services business, can you break that out between kind of what you saw in supply chain versus MRO is one of those stronger than the other and is there new programs at supply chain that’s driving that growth or is it just pure organic growth?.

David Storch

Yes, well so we don’t comment on the individual necessarily, but suffice to say the growth in supply chain was strong, was very strong..

J.B. Groh

So was there new programs that were driving that or was it just…?.

David Storch

Yes new programs and you may recall, I would say about a year ago we entered into an agreement with Eaton and we've started taking delivery of the inventory for Eaton and we've started making sales from the - in supporting the Eaton products during this period.

And program activity was strong and across the board we had strength in the supply chain businesses, as we did in the MRO business..

J.B. Groh

Okay..

David Storch

A 17% organic growth in this period if you check around the horns, there are very few companies growing at that rate in our industry..

J.B. Groh

Agreed, agreed, yes.

John, can you maybe give us now that we've got some charges to sort of a run rate on SG&A, what is the expectation there?.

John Fortson

Yes, I mean look, I think our SG&A is going to revert into the sort of 9% to 10% range where it should do a little bit better than we have historically, but I think for modelling I would sort of assume that..

J.B. Groh

Okay. That’s all I have. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stan Mann with Mann Family Investments. Your line is open..

Stan Mann

Thank you. Good job gentlemen. I have a couple of questions, David.

One use of cash, do you see the cash being used for acquisitions, more stock buyback, have you got a feel or outlook for that?.

David Storch

Well Stan, I like how you always get right to the key elements. You’ve been very consistent with that over the years. So listen, we’re going to keep our options open, Stan. The - obviously in the period just ended, we spent $150 million on share repurchases. I believe we are seeing a good deal flow and opportunity.

So we will probably have probably I would say a very balanced approach between returning capital and opportunistically investing. I mean the leverage - I joined the Company we have leveraged ratio of 40% debt-to-total capitalization and we’ve really never been below 30 since I’ve been at the Company and here we are today at 11%.

So we have a lot of flexibility and we’re going to hopefully make some intelligent moves here..

Stan Mann

Okay.

My second question maybe looking out quite a distance, but do you have any goal or feel for what your operating margins will go to in future years, I mean you are kind of targeting or…?.

David Storch

Yes, we have a three-year plan that gets us up to our 10% objective..

Stan Mann

Oh, well that’s really optimistic..

David Storch

Right, right but it is real and we have to win some business, and yes but we feel we can get there..

Stan Mann

Okay. Good job..

David Storch

By the way we've lowered our corporate expense by $8.2 million in the quarter. So going forward our corporate expense will be as I said lowered by $8.2 million..

Stan Mann

That’s a good number. It’s hard to discern what the exact numbers are, but that’s really quite a move in the right direction..

David Storch

Yes..

Stan Mann

Thank you. Good job..

David Storch

Yes, thanks..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question is a followup from the line of Robert Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Robert Spingarn

Hi, good morning again..

David Storch

Good morning..

Robert Spingarn

So back to the comment on the healthy airline industry, we’ve all seen is how is that translating in MRO, you mentioned a moment ago that supply chain is really the driver in the segment, but in MRO, is there a way to think about same-store sales so to speak in terms of growth?.

David Storch

I mean the, the way to think about the MRO is probably the hours of maintenance and the cumulative man hours and that number has been a little bit down and give or take it’s around the $5 million level and so that’s one of the reasons why we took the action we did with Hot Springs to reduce some of our footprint and get more productivity our of our remaining footprint.

So we’re also trying to find the lowest cost solution. One of the reasons why we moved into Lake Charles was to get a lot [ph] capacity at a low expense. Now we've got to make sure we can, as John Holmes indicated make sure we can get the workforce in place to make that business hum..

Robert Spingarn

So David, maybe you can help me reconcile, we got seat miles raising 5%, 6%, 7% depending on where you’re looking and why would maintenance hours be down?.

David Storch

Just where the aircrafts are in the repair cycle as well as capacity in North America..

Robert Spingarn

Is there any element of fleet age playing a role here?.

David Storch

Not, not, really I think the average age, the fleet age I think has been, again using my historical knowledge, I don’t think that has been more than a one year average age variation over the last 25 years..

Robert Spingarn

Okay..

David Storch

But, if I mean the average age is, and don’t quote me exactly that’s, if it’s 12.9 years or 13.2 or 12.7 it really doesn’t make, it really doesn’t play a factor here..

Robert Spingarn

Well, I mean a lot of airlines have been addressing or avoiding maintenance by parking aircraft that are due for heavy checks, I mean has that been an element?.

David Storch

We haven’t really seen much of that..

Robert Spingarn

Okay.

And then just a last question on this David, so it sounds like your approach to guiding for this year reflects some of the variability in Expeditionary you want to get a little further into the year before you look there or make specific targets, but on the aviation side is there some framework we can think about in terms of growth expectation and sales expectations?.

David Storch

Well, we’re looking at double-digit sales growth and we’re looking at double-digit earnings growth from those businesses..

Robert Spingarn

And again this is driven by supply chain rather than MRO?.

David Storch

No, we’re looking for improvement in MRO as well, so we’re looking for improvement or growth, I should say in both..

Robert Spingarn

Okay. Okay. And then last question….

David Storch

MRO is not earning at peak levels right now. So we have had higher earnings levels at MRO than we are currently experiencing..

Robert Spingarn

Okay, I was going to ask you just one last question on this.

John and I’ve talked in the past about capacity utilization, where would you say you would be once you close the facility you’re closing in terms of MRO?.

David Storch

At 70%..

Robert Spingarn

Okay, okay. Thank you..

David Storch

Yep..

Operator

Thank you. And we have a follow-up question from the line of Kevin Ciabattoni with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Hi, thanks guys, thanks for taking my followup here..

David Storch

Sure..

Kevin Ciabattoni

You mentioned some restructuring in the landing gear business, just kind of wondering if you can maybe give us some color on what happened there and if you’re seeing any pickup there in terms of the cyclicality of that business?.

David Storch

Yes, so we are, we have exited certain product lines that we viewed non-productive and we are seeing an uptick in the cycle. We expect that to kick in more so as the fiscal year moves forward. So, think of it as a 10-year cycle.

So if you look at deliveries at the factories 10 years back they were starting to pick up in the ‘05 time period and so we should start seeing ‘05, ‘06. We should start seeing you know improvement in that operation..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Okay, thanks David, and then just my last question I guess.

Looking at Airlift and the contracting environment, is there a specific reason you can point to that the contracts are taking longer to get through the finish line here than kind of what you had originally thought?.

And then as a second part of that question, is there any impact on how that plays out that you see from the FY ‘16 federal budget process or is that kind of separate from that I guess?.

David Storch

No, I think it’s all kind of connected. My sense is that, there are clearly operational needs that the customers had, that the customers has, customer being USTRANSCOM for the most part. So just there are delays in funding and preparations I believe that have had some impact.

So yes, I mean it’s kind of, - I don’t think anything specific to AAR that you won’t be seeing in other government contracting environments..

Kevin Ciabattoni

Great, thanks..

David Storch

Yes..

Operator

Thank you. And that does conclude today’s question-and-answer portion. I would like to turn the call back over to David Storch for any closing remarks..

David Storch

Thank you very much for your participation today, and I look forward to our next call in September. Have a nice afternoon. Bye-bye..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This concludes today’s program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day..

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