Good afternoon, and welcome to the Agilent Technologies Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there’ll be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you.

And now, I’d like to introduce you to the host for today’s conference, Ankur Dhingra, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead..

Thank you, Mike, and welcome, everyone, to Agilent’s fourth quarter and full-year conference call for fiscal year 2019. With me are Mike McMullen, Agilent’s President and CEO; and Bob McMahon, Agilent’s Senior Vice President and CFO.

Joining in the Q&A after Bob’s comments will be Jacob Thaysen, President of Agilent’s Life Science and Applied Markets Group; Sam Raha, President of Agilent’s Diagnostics and Genomics Group; and Mark Doak, President of the Agilent’s CrossLab Group.

You can find the press release, investor presentation and information to supplement today’s discussion on our website at investor.agilent.com. Today’s comments by Mike and Bob will refer to non-GAAP financial measures. You will find the most directly comparable GAAP financial metrics and reconciliations on our website.

Unless otherwise noted, all references to increases or decreases in financial metrics are year-over-year. References to revenue growth are on a core basis. Core revenue growth excludes the impact of currency and the acquisitions and divestitures completed within the past 12 months. Guidance is based on exchange rates as of October 31.

We will also make forward-looking statements about the financial performance of the company. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and are only valid as of today. The company assumes no obligation to update them. Please look at the company’s recent SEC filings for a more complete picture of our risks and other factors.

And now, I would like to turn the call over to Mike..

deliver above market growth, while expanding operating margins, along with a balanced deployment of capital with a priority on investing for growth. The result, delivery of superior earnings per share growth. In driving value creation, we’ve built a broader base of growth and a more resilient business model.

We were tested this year with economic and political uncertainties leading to subdued demand for new instrument purchases. Yet, we delivered 5% core growth, operating margins improved 80 basis points and delivered another year of double-digit EPS growth. We deployed more than $1.5 billion in M&A and growth-focused capital investments.

On the M&A front, we’re very pleased with the performance to date of BioTek and ACEA BioSciences. We remain on the hunt for similar types of growth opportunities. I’m increasingly confident in the Agilent team’s ability to pursue larger-scale acquisitions and deliver on value creation synergies.

We continue to review potential acquisitions as part of our building and buying growth strategy. Now more than ever, I’m convinced we’re in an exceptionally strong position for the future. This is particularly relevant as we move into 2020, a milestone for us at Agilent as we celebrate 20 years as an independent company.

While uncertainties persist in some end-markets as we start fiscal year 2020, we’re operating from a position of strength. We have built and will sustain our track record of delivering results, working as a One Agilent on behalf of our customers and shareholders.

I’m very proud of the results the Agilent team delivered in the fourth quarter and throughout the year. I know you’ve heard me say this before, but I truly believe the best is yet to come for Agilent, our customers and our investors. Thank you for being on the call today and I look forward to your questions. I will now hand the call off to Bob.

I mean, that was a Freudian [ph] slip. I’ll now hand the call off to Bob. We don’t have a new CEO – CFO.

Bob, you want to take it from here?.

$1.4 billion in M&A for BioTek and ACEA and more than $900 million in share repurchases and dividends. And we ended the year with a very healthy balance sheet, allowing plenty of capacity for further capital deployment. Now let’s turn to our non-GAAP financial guidance for the 2020 fiscal year, beginning with the full-year guidance.

For the full-year, we’re expecting revenue to range from $5.50 billion to $5.55 billion, representing core growth of 4% to 5% and reported growth of 6.5% to 7.5%. Currency is estimated to negatively impact growth by 0.3 percentage points with M&A contributing roughly 2.7 to 2.9 percentage points of growth for the full-year.

From a group perspective, we expect ACG to sustain the momentum and deliver high single-digit growth, driven by broad-based strength.

The DGG business is expected to grow at a high single-digit to low double-digit rate with our NASD Frederick facility ramping throughout the year, and we anticipate a modest recovery for LSAG roughly flat on a core basis. Now moving down the P&L, we expect modest operating leverage.

And also embedded in our forecast is we expect the other income and expense line to be roughly $40 million to $45 million in net expense, with year-over-year change driven largely by the interest expense as we enter the year in a net debt position.

We expect our tax rate to improve by 50 basis points to slightly above 16% and our full-year diluted shares outstanding to be approximately $312 million, essentially flat to Q4 of this year and reflecting only anti-dilutive share repurchases throughout the year.

All this translates to non-GAAP EPS expected to be between $3.38 and $3.43 per share, resulting in 9% to 10% growth on a reported basis. Finally, we expect operating cash flow of approximately $775 million to $800 million.

This includes a one-time tax outflow of roughly $230 million in the first quarter to transfer certain intangibles related to prior acquisitions. This tax will reduce our U.S. transition tax dollar-for-dollar and will provide us with operational and tax benefits in the future.

We’ve also announced raising our dividend by 10%, continuing a streak of double-digit increases and providing another source of value to our shareholders. Now turning into Q1 guidance. For Q1, we’re expecting revenue to range from $1.34 billion to $1.355 billion, representing reported growth of 4.3% to 5.5% and core growth of 2.5% to 3.5%.

The lower organic growth in Q1 reflects the impact of the timing of the Lunar New Year, which this year falls into our fiscal first quarter. We anticipate this adversely affecting the growth rate in the first quarter by roughly 1 point. In addition, the growth rate takes into account the Frederick site ramp that will occur over the year.

First Quarter 2020 non-GAAP earnings are expected to be in the range of $0.80 to $0.81 per share, representing reported growth of 5% to 7%. EPS growth in Q1 is lower than the full-year based on the revenue growth, the Frederick start-up costs and certain share-based compensation costs that are expensed in the first quarter.

Now before opening the call for questions, let me conclude by saying we are very pleased with the results our Agilent team was able to achieve this past year, while continuing to take focus on taking full advantage of the opportunities in front of us.

We are positioning our business towards stronger secular growth markets and driving higher recurring revenue streams. We clearly saw the results of this in 2019 and we entered 2020 with a strong portfolio and with momentum. With that, Ankur, back to you for the Q&A..

Thank you, Bob. Mike, if you can please provide instructions for the Q&A..

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Doug Schenkel from Cowen..

Hey, good afternoon, guys…..

Hey, Doug..

…and thank you for taking my questions. So maybe first with just a cleanup question. Did fiscal 2019 NASD revenue come in around $100 million as expected? And can you give us more detail on what you’re assuming for NASD revenue in 2020? I know you said you expect it to ramp over the course of the year.

But if you actually gave a number, I might have missed that..

So I’ll pass that to Bob..

Okay.

Bob?.

Yes..

Thanks, Doug. Yes, it came in generally in line a little better than that and we’re expecting very significant growth in FY 2020..

Okay. So recognizing it, we don’t have a specific number, but just talking about it qualitatively and maybe taking everything up a level. You set the low-end of 2020 core revenue growth guidance at 4%. And this would be the – I think, the lowest core growth rate since at least 2011.

And whatever that tailwind is from NASD, it makes the setting guidance at those levels even more notable. Based on what you guys just did in the quarter and the way you sound, that – it seems like you’re really just setting the bar at a level that embed some pretty conservative assumptions on the low-end.

So I guess, specifically, would you guys be willing to talk about what conditions would need to exist for this scenario to become reality? Things like – at 4%, what are you assuming for China food? What are you assuming for 4+7 in terms of the downside risk there? And is there something you’re factoring in that would suggest there’s a scenario where things actually get worse in terms of overall global capital equipment demand?.

Yes. Thanks, Doug. Let me start and then Bob will jump in on this. So I think we don’t want to overthink this one. So this is our initial guide for the year. And you’re right, it would represent, if, in fact, that was an actual growth number – our loss growth rate in a number of years.

But it’s just an initial guide, as you heard earlier, you heard a lot of words as expected with upside. So, we’re going to position our initial guide with the room for upside on the plan for the year. And….

Yes, I would say, Doug, to build on what Mike was saying. I think we were taking a kind of a prudent approach to guidance. Obviously, if we were at that level, we’d be disappointed and something would happen in the macro economic environment that we’re not expecting.

We’re not seeing anything right now that would suggest that the market conditions are getting any worse. This – that would suggest that market conditions probably would get worse and LSAG would not come back and it would continue to decline. But we’re, again, we’re at the beginning of the year there.

Our – I think, we’re prudent here, but we like to believe that there’s a lot of opportunities for growth going forward..

Okay, that’s super helpful. Thanks for taking my questions..

Thank you, Doug..

Your next question comes from the line of Tycho Peterson from JPMorgan..

Hey, thanks. Question on the small molecule business. I’m….

Hi, good afternoon..

…hey, good afternoon. I’m wondering if you could talk on small molecule performance in the quarter. I know earlier in the year, you talked about a slowing global pharma business.

Just curious how you’re thinking about the replacement cycle and was any of the instruments slowdown on the pharma side?.

In fact, Tycho, I think you’re – hey, Tycho, happy to jump in on this one and feel free Jacob to add your comments as well. But in Q2, we called out what seemed to be a slowing replacement cycle – replacement level in the generic side or small molecule side of the Pharma segment.

We really haven’t seen any evidence of that in the third and fourth quarter. And as Bob mentioned in the script, we had double-digit growth in pharma, 4+7 initiative, which is heavily focused on small molecule is not impacting our business. We put a really solid numbers.

And I think we’re seeing the growth in small molecule fairly healthy, along with higher levels in the biopharma side. But really the pressure on the instrument side really on a growth rate perspective has really come in the food segment, primarily in China as well as the global chemical energy market.

And, Jacob, I don’t know if you have anything else you’d like to add there?.

Mike, I think you have covered a lot of it. The only thing to add there is that, we, as you mentioned, but – that we do see the growth in the QA/QC environment, maybe less in the discovery from small molecules. But we continue to expect that volume will be there and continue to increase in the small molecules going forward also..

Okay.

And then, Mike, for your commentary on C&E, for instruments, are you assuming any recovery next year on the instrument side?.

No. That’s basically flat, kind of basically flat conditions. So – and back to the question, Doug, you asked earlier, if we would see some improvement in the chemical energy that would really represent upside to our our initial guide. So we’re assuming kind of continued conditions. They’ve been challenged this year.

So we’re assuming they continue into FY 2020, no change there. But if it would change the positive that would be upside to our current plan..

Gotcha..

And I think the resilience of our model really showed in this past quarter and the full-year, which is, while chemical industry is down on the instrument side, we actually had some modest growth there when – with the aftermarket side of our business..

Okay. And then one quick one for Bob, just to close on the M&A comments.

Can you just remind us your framework? Are you still assuming $1 billion-ish type deal would be the ceiling where we’re obviously getting the question a lot as other analysts?.

No, no, let me take that one. If it wasn’t clear in the script, I actually explicitly said that we’re increasingly confident on our ability to take on larger-scale acquisitions and deliver on value creation and synergies. I would not put a ceiling like that on our appetite for deals..

Are you able to talk about ceiling on leverage, or where you would go?.

Yes. Go ahead, Bob..

Yes. Yes, we are still committed to being investment grade. Obviously, being ending the year at roughly a little less than one-time net debt levered. That gives us a lot of opportunity to – if the right deal were there to kind of lever up with the commitment to kind of paying back down.

Now, again, we’re going to be remained financially disciplined and focused on returns, but we do have a fair amount of room there..

Okay. Thank you..

You’re welcome..

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard from Jefferies..

Okay, thanks. Good afternoon..

Good afternoon, Brandon..

Mike or Bob, could you give us any color in terms of what you’ve penciled in for China for fiscal 2020? And to sort of speak to your level of visibility in the food business and perhaps some early traction that you might be getting with some of those private labs?.

Yes. Yes, I’ll start and then Mike, or perhaps, Jake, if you wanted to add anything. We are expecting a modest recovery in China next year. We ended this year at roughly 1%, a large part of that being the headwinds that we’re seeing in food.

We’re expecting that China to become kind of low single digits to mid high, or mid single digits, depending on kind of that food recovery. We have some – the good news is, over the last three quarters, we’ve been roughly averaging this $40 million per quarter that we talked about.

So we’re on this trajectory of – in China being $160 million kind of run rate. And our expectation is that, we’ll continue to – we’re not going to speculate growth there, but be at that level next year, which will help the rest of the business grow. So we will – because we won’t have that headwind..

Yes, I think it’s really important that we define what do we mean by recovery, which mainly means continue at the flat level it’s been running for the last three quarters, about $40 million a quarter. And just to put a number on this, I believe, Bob, about 4 points of our growth in China this year was impacted by the food market..

That’s correct..

So we fast forward, you could do the math and said, okay, it would just stays flat with what we’ve seen for the last three quarters. You’d expect that we would grow above what we’ve grown this year in China. And then to your question about the contract testing side, Jacob, I think it’s high single-digit growth there. So….

Yes..

…really, we’re doing quite well there..

Yes. We – I was actually recently here in China. And clearly, the private labs are doing quite well. We see strong growth now from a different base than where we are on the government labs. But even with the government labs and certain types are – there are certain some investments going in, but not to the level that we’ve seen before.

So that’s why we don’t see a lot of movements right now. We won’t..

Thanks. And a follow-up for Bob. Could you just elaborate a little more color on the tax hit, the one-time tax hit on the cash full on you expect in the first quarter? And kind of the mechanics of what it relates to in terms of the intangibles, reclassification, and any implications it might have for the tax rate beyond next year? Thanks..

Yes. So it is a one-time opportunity that we have afforded ourselves. We’re moving some intangible property out of one of our acquisitions into our tax model. It’s going to require us to pay the $230 million upfront in taxes, but that’s going to be creditable to our already existing liability for our U.S. transition tax.

And so it’s effectively a one-for-one kind of credit there. So it’s not an incremental cost to us over time. And what it allows us to do by putting this – it’s related to the Dako acquisition. It allows us to streamline our operational activities, as well as overtime, generate some tax benefits.

That will likely happen in 2021 and beyond, so it’s part of our kind of multi-year tax planning initiatives that we’ve been talking about..

Very good. Thank you..

Your next question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI..

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question. And….

Hey, Vijay..

…Mike, maybe a big picture question. I just – if I think about where PMIs are, I think, PMIs are bottoming out. But from your commentary, I guess, what you’re saying is, you’re still expecting whatever trends we saw for 2019 as a base case, you’re assuming those trends continue into next year.

I’m just curious PMIs are bottoming out, why is that a reasonable assumption going forward?.

I want to see the orders first. So – and back – getting back to the earlier question about guide, that’s why we went into level we did, which was, if you go back and look at Agilent’s overall results for 2019, they really were quite strong. But the growth came from different parts of the businesses than we expected.

And we’re sitting in Q2 and Q1 last year, PMIs started dropping, and you see – saw a level of conservatism in our customer-buying behavior. So we said, okay, there’s reason to believe to your point that it could actually be a different environment in 2020. Let’s not guide assuming that.

Let’s just – let’s see it happen and then we’ll take up the guide appropriately and take the orders of business..

Yes. I think, Vijay, this is Bob. Just to add on to what Mike is saying. I mean, what we’re trying to do like everyone else is kind of read the tea leaves. And our best view is that, until we start seeing something different that it’s going to remain the same as it is today. And if it does rebound, that would be good. We would like that. Yes..

That – that’s helpful, guys. And then, Bob, one quick question on operating leverage. It looks like the guide is contemplating modest operating leverage, maybe 30, 35 basis points for next year. I’m just – I mean, that Q4 performance, this is really impressive what you guys did on the OpEx side.

Any thoughts on why maybe leverage for next year, Rob, moderates a little bit? Is that maybe a little bit more spend to – on the growth initiatives you guys have?.

Yes, some of it is that and we have a full-year of the Frederick costs that are going to be built into the results in 2020 that we didn’t have. We really just had that in Q4. And obviously, Q4 is one of our strongest years of – our strongest quarter. So we get a lot of leverage there. But we feel pretty good about that.

And I think we’ve demonstrated this year an ability to manage our operating expenses to continue to drive double-digit growth on the earnings side and continue to drive operating margin leverage. So I think, you should feel confident that we’ll continue to do that going forward..

Thanks, guys..

You’re welcome..

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Beuchaw from Wolfe Research..

Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for the time here..

Hi, Steve..

Hi, Mike, thanks for the time here, again. A few things I’d like to tie up. I mean, Mike, I wonder if first, you might elaborate a little bit on a point that you made in your prepared remarks. When you said that orders in the quarter actually grew, I believe faster than revenue.

I wonder if you could talk about where you’re seeing acceleration? And to what extent, if any particular region, maybe Japan was a driver there knowing there are some tax incentives in Japan?.

Thanks. Thanks for doing that. We thought it was really important to give the audience a view of the order activity in the quarter. We typically don’t like to plan – we typically don’t comment on that.

But given the Q1 guide and some of the nuances around Lunar New Year and such, I want to let you – let the audience know that we ended the year in a strong backlog position, but the orders really exceeding the amount of revenue for the quarter.

And I’d say, the quarter in orders was very similar to the quarter in terms of the revenues that you saw, which was strength in the Americas, strengthen in pharma from an end market, very strong results in ACG, DGG, cell analysis. So – and then the environmental side continues to put up really great numbers off of double-digit compares.

So I think the Q4 order book was very similar in terms of pattern and areas of strength that we saw on the revenue side that I commented in my script..

Yes. The only thing I’m going to say, I was just going to be….

…built new..

Yes. Steve, to more specifically to your question on Japan, we did not see any one-time build there, that was at the end of the fiscal year. Our fiscal quarter actually was across that, that timeframe. So we saw normal growth in Japan, which actually speaks to kind of the broad-based strength that Mike was just talking about..

Okay, great. Very helpful. And then just, let’s say, two very quick points to tie up with the model. I guess one on NASD. I know you don’t want to give a specific number as it relates to what the contribution on revenues might be for fiscal 2020.

But could you spend a minute just on how close you are to getting capacity there booked up? And when you think it – whether it’s 2021 or 2022, we might see the Frederick location running closer to that incremental capacity and then actually, I’ll tie it up right there? Thanks, again, for all the help..

Bob, I think you’ve been joining in the same questions with Sam. So….

Yes, yes, yes..

So you and I both want to….

Yes. Why don’t I start it..

…and I’ll jump in..

…from the question earlier, in the Q&A, we felt very good about kind of where we ended up the year. We had very strong growth. And we ended up, as I mentioned, slightly above the $100 million. And as we had talked about before, there was $100 million of capacity that would be ramping up over the course of the year.

Many folks have modeled kind of a $50 million number and that’s in the ballpark. And in the ramp is really dependent upon how the clinical trials go and so forth. And so, maybe I’ll turn it over to Sam, to talk about kind of some of the dynamics, but obviously, some very positive things that have happened in the market just recently..

Yes, Bob, I think you you’ve already laid the groundwork. Steve, how are you? We continue to be excited about the NASD business. And Boulder, just to remind you, is an ongoing important part of our NASD capacity capability there.

And there have been some announcements recently, you might have seen that they just really reaffirmed what’s in our plan, the ability to grow and support the growing demand in the market for our customers. So Bob, really, I don’t have a lot to add to what you already said. We expect by the time we exit the year and you’re running….

I think, it’s fair to say, we’re not running into challenges to fill up the site..

That’s right..

I mean, we’ll just kind of leave it at that..

Yes..

Your next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan from UBS..

Hey, Dan..

Hey, Dan..

So, Mike, maybe just on China, if you don’t mind. China, you said pharma grew double digits in the quarter in China.

But could you just spike out the generic issue there? And kind of how did generics specifically do in the quarter? And maybe kind of what’s assumed in 2020 versus what you achieved in 2019 with generics there?.

Yes. How about if I used the word 4+7 in that whole segment, excuse me, that whole segment of small molecule, I think it was up double-digit for us..

Yes. I mean, as Mike mentioned, we after the first 4+7 around and the winners were announced, we certainly also see we are market leader in that space and that by we have access to many of those customers out there. So we, of course, in demand from those customers also. That would be more 4+7 or more activities in that space.

But generally, speaking, we feel that we have a quite good predictability in that market now..

Yes. Dan, I think that actually played out the way we had thought during the year. Once the initial announcements were done and tendering process started, the whole market pause for us to release a good quarter.

And then as we had thought would happen is the – once the winners were announced and we were actually over-indexed in those accounts, so we had already preexisting strong relationship with those customers. Then we would see this return to growth we saw it in Q3 and we saw it in Q4, and we think the – that momentum is with us as we move into 2020..

Yes. I think Dan, this is Bob. Just to build on what Mike and Jake were saying. I think what we’ve seen is kind of the notion of the higher quality, higher volumes and our ability to provide not only instrumentation, but the consumables and the software associated with that to keep up time in the lab is really resonating with our customers.

And so I think the combination of both the LSAG business and the ACG business is a true, what we think is a competitive differentiator across this, and this is a proof point for us..

Great. Thank you for that.

And then maybe back on C&E, I know, I think the Tycho’s question, Bob – Mike, excuse me, I think, you discussed instruments, maybe flat is the way to think about the outlook from here conservatively? Can you just maybe speak to kind of what the interest level is like from the Intuvo and then the two larger instrument platforms today? And kind of what are the guideposts towards when maybe we could see that instrument demand pickup? Because I assume there has to be some good latent demand for the new instruments..

Yes. In fact, we’re already seeing that. So it’s actually when you dig into the details on the order book and the revenue results, in fact, we just had a review last week with Jacob on his ramp to volume. And he knew, the new 8890 and 8860 GCs are actually – it’s – on the dashboard, it shows green being head of our internal ramp to volume forecast.

So we think that it’s already happening. And then other parts of the instrument portfolio, so the chemical energy aren’t seeing the same type of demand.

But this shows you when you come out with a new set of offerings, the marketplaces have a clear value proposition to customers that drives productivity even in a market environment, where capital is a little bit tighter, you can get the order.

And, Jacob, I know you’ve been out with some customers recently, but if you could anything else you’d like to add to that?.

Yes, absolutely. I think the 88 series really resonate with the customer base. And even though, it is a muted environment, we do see that there is interest and we do see, as you know, that we have a really strong ramp to volume.

But the customer really like about it is that, we continue with the highest quality and highest performance in the market, but now also with a lot of what we call smart performance in the instruments – a lot of intelligence. So with instrument actually knows what it’s doing and it can put predictive maintenance in.

In fact, we put out something that’s called smart alerts now that customers are really excited about that they can get an overview over their labs and get access to what’s actually happening instruments, so they can be predictive in their expectations..

And it also creates an ongoing revenue stream for us as well..

Absolutely..

Great. Excellent. Thanks a lot and congrats..

Thank you..

Your next question comes from Derik de Bruin from Bank of America..

Hi, good afternoon..

Good afternoon, Derik..

Hi, Derik..

Hey. So actually, I wanted to follow on with that question thinking about the GC cycle and the upgrade. How much – can you estimate about how much the installed base was upgraded over the last few years. Now you’ve got a very big GC platform installed globally.

Just curious in terms of where we are in the cycles once it picks up again?.

I think, Jacob is raising his hand. He’d love to answer this question. So….

Yes. We have – generally speaking, when we look into our refresh cycle, we do see that the market is looking at approximately 10% per year of refresh. So that also means that our instruments is out there for quite a long time. We are actively looking into that. We we do see – we actually believe that we are in the middle of a refresh cycle.

It has been challenged with the overall market conditions. So we do believe actually when the market is coming back to when the PMI are starting to turn that that we would see an acceleration in that refresh cycle..

I think it’s fair to say to Jacob, there’s always, if you will, a replacement going on. Just – how much has actually been replaced. And I think we continue to see fairly high levels of aging in the installed base, which would point to perhaps somewhat of an acceleration of the replacement rate, assuming the market environment would improve. Yes..

Yes. Hey, Derik, one other thing that I think is probably pertinent here, it’s still early days. But when – if you recall, the launch is both at the high-end and the mid range. And what we really excited about was the potential to have a really compelling offering at the mid range, where we had not as much penetration as we did at the high-end.

And while Mike was talking about our ramp to volume, Mike and Jake were talking about a ramp to volume being green for the business if you kind of parse them out. I would say the mid price or the mid value range is dark green..

Which is a good thing, I think..

Which was a good thing..

And so, once the China food business starts to snap back or come to pick up, again, I guess, can you – how should we think about that business? I mean, is there going to be a V-shaped curve since rebound is the latent demand there or is it going to be – is that market going to be a little bit less than we had grown in the past just given some new organizations in that market?.

Yes. I think we won’t see the type of double-digit declines we saw this year. As Jacob mentioned on the actual volume side, the number of samples being run is up double-digit. The money has been down sharply at the central government level. We don’t expect that’s going to be the long-term situation.

So right now for 2020, again, we’re just saying it’s going to be flat with the level we’ve seen for the last three quarters. That being said, our internal view is that this is kind of a mid single-digit kind of grower.

It’s going to – I mean, the China market itself is going to be least 6% to 8% growth rate and this is probably about where this business could be. It won’t be at the toward double-digit growth that is seen for the past decade. That being said, you won’t see these double-digit declines that we experienced in 2019.

That’s why when we talk about a modest recovery in China really is, we’re just talking about lapping the compare on the food – from the food business..

One final question. I mean, you’ve done a lot of acquisitions in the cell biology space recently. And admittedly, I’m a molecular biologist by training, I’m a cell biologist.

So can you help me understand what you’re offering that’s novel in terms of how you put all these pieces together? And just sort of what are you bringing to market to customers that hasn’t been brought there before? I’m just trying to get a better understanding of sort of like the opportunity here.

And along those lines, like do you need a broader molecular biology portfolio to continue to drive into that market? Thank you..

Yes, happy to do that, Derik. So I want to make some initial comments and Jacob is knee deep into this business, and he can share with you some of the things that really differentiate ourselves here. So, I think we first got started down this journey with the acquisition of Seahorse Bioscience.

We really felt that was a really good first point with a differentiated offering with novel, unique technology that nobody had. But we also felt that we needed to have some more scale to be much more formal in the space. After the recent acquisition of ACEA Biosciences and the acquisition of BioTek, the $250 million-plus, we think we’ve got the scale.

And we’re also very selective in terms of the types of companies we look at, the teams, the profile of the portfolio, so I think we’ve got something really especially that it differentiated.

And Jacob, why don’t you talk about what we’re doing about the workflows and some other things?.

Yes, absolutely. So I’m certainly excited about our opportunity in the cell analysis space. And what I think is that two dynamics going on. First of all, with the recent rise of immune-oncology that we first play out in [indiscernible] now in the cell analysis also.

And then, of course, generally speaking, immunology, that there’s a lot of interest in that space right now. And it really requires technologies that allow for life cell analysis, both from an imaging perspective, but also measuring the activity in the life cells.

And those are the technologies that we’re providing between the BioTek, the Seahorse, the ACEA and the lots of technologies.

So where we really differentiate is, first of all, the seahorse and ACEA Technologies are very differentiated understanding on their own, while BioTek have a very broad portfolio, including some very excited imaging technologies.

But we have not bring them together in workflow settings, where you can use basically the multi techniques to look at cell from many different angles and provide much deeper insight based on one informatics platform that nobody else can do in the market. So that I think that’s really where we differentiate versus competition..

And one of the things, Derik, we looked at was, we had already been working, for example, between the BioTek team and the CRS team actually have been working together prior to the acquisition.

And we had proof points based on incremental business we had, which was customers really didn’t want to have independent instrumentation and data systems that really haven’t integrated software, integrating these workflows and really was – really had a differentiated value to customers, and they saw that was very important to them and they were willing to give us the business as a result..

Your next question comes from Bill Quirk from Piper Jaffray..

Great, thanks. Good afternoon, everybody..

Hey, Bill..

First question is Mike and Bob, you guys have touched on China several times already. But maybe we can talk a little bit about assumptions concerning other geographies in 2020? Are they any different than what you’re currently seeing in terms of both current business, as well as wall to your order book? Thanks..

Do you want to take that, Bob?.

Yes, yes. No, that’s a great question, Bill. So let me kind of walk you through kind of how we’re thinking about the various markets. So we would expect that the Americas would continue to kind of lead the pace with kind of high single-digit growth.

Europe, probably low single-digit growth going forward, pretty consistent with kind of how we’ve seen this year kind of play out. And the rest of Asia, excluding China being in kind of in that low to mid single-digit growth. And so that’s kind of how we’re thinking about China. And China would be low to mid, yes..

Okay..

Got it.

And then, Mike, to elaborate on an earlier comment that you made about tighter capital, can you just talk about how broadly you’re seeing that?.

Oh, I think that comment was related to conditions we saw in 2019, that – and my comment really was, even when there’s tighter capital, which is what we saw with lower PMIs throughout this year, customers are still willing to invest when you have a solution that helps them with their bottom line, their productivity, as well as their scientific results.

So what I’m saying is, there’s a path forward to getting more business, even when capital is tight..

Okay.

So you’re not suggesting obviously then that there’s some sort of lack of availability, it really has to do with, if you have the right product, you can find it?.

Yes, correct..

Yes, absolutely..

Okay, got it. Thank you..

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Knight from Janney Montgomery..

Hey, Mike. Could you talk about….

Hi, Paul..

…the – your position in biopharma, specifically a large molecule is what portion do you think of the business today? And where would you like that to be, I guess, would be a good color? Thank you..

Yes, happy to do so, Paul. And as Bob mentioned, we’ve been having – we have strong pharma results, again, this quarter. This has been kind of consistent story for Agilent over the last several years. During that period of time, we’ve been consistently growing our biopharma portion, our large molecule portion of that business double-digit.

I think, a couple years ago was probably maybe about 15% of our pharma business. Now it’s up to probably north of 20% and we think that rate will continue.

It’s not because the other side has been shrinking, it’s because we think we’ve been obviously investing very heavily, either through new instrument platforms, marked on some acquisitions in this area.

So while we don’t have a specific percentage in mind, I would expect every time I start talking you through the coming years, you’re going to see a higher part of the – of our business in biopharma. In fact, when we come out to – at the conference again this year, we’ll probably talk more specifically about the entirety of our biopharma business.

I dropped a lot of comments today about NASD and some cell analysis. So a lot of stuff ultimately comes in into a lot of us into the biopharma end market. We often think about biopharma business just being associated with LC and LCMS, but there’s a lot more to the story..

Okay. And on the academic side, it was soft. What was specifically did do you see going on in the U.S.

market in the quarter?.

We dug into this, honestly, it’s probably worth calling. And as best we can see really was just about the strength of the business we had last year, I think it was about over 10% growth last year. So nothing really is really changing in that environment and continue to see very solid and stable funding environment.

Sometimes there’s seasonality a bit with that business, but I think that’s really all we could really saw them..

That’s right. I mean, that business is one of our smaller businesses, and it can be kind of lumpy and so forth and had a very strong Q4..

Okay. Thank you..

Your next question comes from the line of Puneet Souda from SVB Leerink..

Hi, Mike, thanks for the question..

Hi, Puneet..

So this appears to be another quarter of growth in CrossLab. So wondering what continues to be the strength there. What’s your confidence there longer-term? And it’s consistently about 8% growth for the – I mean, now, last three years.

And so should we expect similar expectation here going forward into – and despite LSAG instruments being flat for the year, as you pointed out in your remarks, should we expect CrossLab’s longer-term to continue to do well, knowing that some of the instrumentation is being flat and with the consumables and service contracts will continue to grow?.

I’m happy to comment on this. This is a real success story, I think of the new ads and we architect this strategy a couple of years ago. And we – I can recall, getting this question almost every year when we had an 8% or 9% print, hey, when’s it going to end? And we would say, it’s not going to end.

We think that what’s going on here is really you have changing customer needs and you need to anticipate what’s going to happen and provide a new set of services and capabilities. really help them with the economics on the lab in addition to the scientific results.

So today, I think this – and I hope it came through in the call script, which was we said, we really have demonstrated this new business model this year, where we can have strong growth in ACG, irrespective of whether or not the business in our new instrument side is as strong as we’d like it to be.

So, as Bob said, the guide for next year, we’re quite confident in our ability to continue this high single-digit kind of growth. The services proposition we have and what we offer is really what we’re resonating with customers.

You heard, Jacob commenting a little bit on some of the work that goes on between Mark’s team and Jacob’s team to develop new capabilities around our instrument platforms, which leads into a set of new revenue streams on our services side.

And on the consumer side, it’s been both a story of organic growth, but also continuing to add more to the portfolio through acquisitions. So I think we’re really quite confident about our ability to continue this high single-digit growth rate really tied in also to how we’re enabling business differently on a digital perspective.

So I hope it’s coming through that we’re highly confident about our – what we build and where this business is going to go in the future..

Yes. I think, Puneet, hey, this is Bob..

Okay..

…just one other thing is, we’re talking about this. If you looked at just the attach rates, we’ve got a number of programs that are driving increased attach rates. We have – we think we have a lot of room to continue to grow there.

And I think the one thing that we’ve seen this year is actually, as Mark and team have offered more services and more solutions, we’re actually seeing for the instruments that we are placing actually higher value….

Yes..

...tied to the service offerings. So we’re actually being able to create more value on a per box basis, given the portfolio that we’ve been able to derive. So there’s a lot of opportunity there. Jacob talked about some of the smart alerts and so forth, but we’re building this intelligence in.

But in addition, we’re actually creating more value when an instrument is sold and actually increasing the service component..

Okay, thanks.

And if I could check on Dako, could you elaborate the contribution there on the quarter? I don’t know if you provided that and what’s your expectation that you’re breaking there for 2020?.

Yes. I think we didn’t provide a specific number for me. But if you saw my comments, we talked about gaining market share in pathology and we’ve got a high single-digit growing business in DGG. And though a lot of today’s call has been focused on the growth rate from NASD. Pathology is the largest business in that group and it’s doing well..

Okay. And if I could squeeze in the last question on, Mike. When we look at the last couple of years, pulling back a little bit higher level. In terms of instrument launches, you had Intuvo, Ultivo, 8800 series, a number of launches. And this would be about the time we would be seeing a benefit from those.

So is the message here that those instruments continue to gain strong traction in the market? And it’s just the end markets that are sort of challenging you and the government dynamics in China, or is there any – anything more to that we should be looking into in terms of the instrumentation? And just give us, if you could take a moment and give us a sort of a view into the new instrument sort of outlook longer-term and how should we think about Agilent in that framework? Thank you..

Thanks, Puneet. I couldn’t have said it better myself, which is our product portfolio has never been stronger. We have had a continuing cadence of products, whether it’d be liquid chromatography, gas chromatography, LCMS, GCMS, molecular spectroscopy, the story just continues.

So if there has been any softness relative to expectations in LSAG results, it’s all been some of the market environment conditions that you’ve described. And the fact that we’ve been able to continue to invest.

We have invested in our field team, as well as I know, some of my competitors are pulling back their reins a bit, where we think we’re capturing share, we think we’re well positioned for – when some of these end markets start to turn to back to back to growth. We’ve seen some of these cycles before in the past.

So I think the – and then I made a comment in my script about the product pipeline being full, which is what that was an indication of it. We have other projects. So we’re not going to introduce a bunch of instruments and then disappear for half a decade, you’re going to have a continuing cadence of products, new products, upgrades.

So we feel like our NPI process is really humming right now..

Your last question comes from the line of Jack Meehan from Barclays..

Thank you. Good afternoon..

Hi, Jack..

Hey, so I can’t believe I got this far in the call.

But I wanted to ask how is the early integration of the BioTek acquisition going? And maybe can you also elaborate on the pacing of the revenue contribution? When I look at the fourth quarter, the acquired growth was about a point better than I was looking for in terms of the incremental growth and the first quarter is about a point shy of what I was looking for, was there any movement there?.

Yes. So….

I’ll take the last one and then I’ll turn it over to Jacob for the integration piece. So yes, we – in simple terms, we had talked about $20 million to $25 million worth of revenue. It was slightly better – it was better than that in the quarter. Going into Q1, the ACEA Biosciences acquisition moves into core. So that’s why it looks a little lower.

It shows up as part of our core growth. In Q4, both ACEA and BioTek were in the M&A number..

And as I mentioned in my script, we’re very pleased with how the – we are on the early days in BioTek and Jacob, maybe just want to add a few comments. We just – we’ve had a big meeting with the field team few weeks ago, so….

Yes, exactly. I think the integration couldn’t have been better so far.

I think we are really spending time on learning, of course, BioTek and they spend time learning us both from what processes we’re using, but also from a cultural perspective, we continue to be very excited about the team that we’re getting on board and how they fit well with the Agilent culture. So I’m very excited.

Obviously, over the next year, we’re going to integrate them. But – and – but I’m continuing to see a lot of momentum in the combined cell analysis business..

Yes. Our expectations is that business is going to grow double-digit..

Yes..

Okay, thank you. And then I was hoping just to wrap up getting mark-to-market….

One moment please. Jack Meehan, your line is open..

Okay, thank you. I was talking to myself for a second. Just follow-up I was hoping if you could give us a mark-to-market on Lasergen, I think you’re expecting first placements in the second-half of this year at the last Analyst Day.

Just how is the progress going there?.

Yes.

So technically, Sam, I think we’ve really been quite pleased with the progress and we’re not ready to call out intro date for the RUO unit yet?.

That’s right, Mike. We are making good technical progress in terms of the specifications that are pushing technology. And we are executing on our development roadmap and we’re not ready to share specifics on the launch date just yet..

I would say, Jack, this is Bob. Our guidance doesn’t comprehend any revenue there. And even back in the original guidance, there was no material revenue in 2020..

Okay, Jack?.

Yep. Thank you, guys..

And that was our last question at this time. I will turn the call back over to the presenters..

All right. Thank you, everyone. With that, we will wrap up today’s call. Thanks..

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..