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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q1
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Trustmark Corporation's First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Joey Rein, Director of Investor Relations at Trustmark. .

F. Joseph Rein Executive Vice President & Director of Corporate Strategy

Good morning. I'd like to remind everyone that a copy of our first quarter earnings release and supporting financial information is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at trustmark.com..

During the course of our call, this morning, we may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

We would like to caution you that these forward-looking statements may differ materially from actual results due to a number of risk and uncertainties, which are outlined in our earnings release and our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission..

At this time, we'll turn the call over to Gerry Host, President and CEO of Trustmark. .

Gerard Host

Thank you, Joey, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. As we -- as I finish my comments, we'll go into question-and-answer. And with us to add color to that session is Barry Harvey, our Chief Credit Officer; Louis Greer, our Chief Financial Officer; Tom Owens, our Bank Treasurer; and Buddy Wood, our Chief Risk Officer..

Let's start, if we could, by looking at some of the first quarter highlights. We had solid financial performance again. We experienced a fourth consecutive quarter of loan growth in our legacy portfolio. Our credit quality continues to improve, and the core net interest margin expanded by 4 basis points. .

We reduced our noninterest expense. And all in all, we feel it was a very successful quarter as we began our 125th year in business as a financial services company. .

We do that with a very strong capital base and it has positioned us, we believe, very well for the future needs of both our customers and our shareholders. .

In the first quarter, our net income was $29 million or $0.43 a share, a return on tangible equity just below 13% at 12.93%. And our return on assets of 0.99% or right at 1%. .

We, yesterday, in our Board of Directors meeting, our board declared a quarterly cash -- approved and declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.23 a share and that will be payable on June 15 of this year. .

Now let's take a look in a little bit more detail on the first quarter. Looking at the balance sheet in quarter and the loans held for investments totaled $5.9 billion. This was an increase of $125 million for the quarter or 8.8% annualized. .

The growth that we saw was diversified by both market type and loan type. Our commercial and industrial loans increased right around $50 million during the quarter, and it was attributable to expansion in the Mississippi, Alabama and Florida markets.

And looking at the 1-4 family mortgage loans, they increased $48.2 million, there also was growth in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

Commercial real estate loans grew $46.8 million during the quarter, and this reflected growth in all 5 states within our footprint. .

Our construction and consumer portfolios remained relatively flat for the quarter..

We are also pleased with growth during this quarter in our pipelines, we do believe that the growth we experienced in the first quarter will continue in the coming quarters. .

As I mentioned, the pipeline is helping, it's encouraging. Our people are out making calls. They -- the market has improved. Businesses seem to be more active. And we're excited about that and working very hard to service the needs of our customers and our prospects. .

Looking at deposits during the quarter, they increased $262 million, or about 2.7% from the prior quarter. What's nice about this is that about $216 million of this growth was in non-interest-bearing accounts.

That does include some seasonal increases in public funds what we believe that will be very beneficial to the net interest margin during this period. .

At the end of the quarter, noninterest-bearing deposits represented 28.4% of our total deposits.

I'll take a few minutes on credit quality, and obviously, this is something that, as we went through the challenges in the last 5 years, that we remained very focused on and feel very good about the work that has been done by many people throughout the organization. .

But let me -- the credit metrics that I'll talk about here exclude acquired loans, and other real estate that's covered by FDIC loss-share agreement. .

If you look at our nonperforming loans, they decreased 1.9% from the previous quarter and 23 -- over 23% from the prior quarter a year ago, and now total $64 million..

Other real estate totaled $111.5 million, that's an increase of $5 million from the prior quarter. So when you compare that to the level of a year ago, we've actually declined about $7 million. .

Additional comments relative to other real estate, I think will ask Barry Harvey add a little bit of color if there are some questions, when I'm finished. But we feel very good about how we have managed that portfolio throughout the cycle. .

Our net recoveries during the first quarter exceeded our charge-off and, as a result, we had a net recovery of $1.9 million. Our provision for loan losses in the quarter was a negative $800,000 as a result of the net recovery position, and we improved credit quality within the loan portfolio. .

From the previous quarter, classified loans were down $7 million, while criticized loans were down $7.1 million. .

When we compare that to a year earlier, classified loans were down $20 million and criticized loans down $63 million. Again just an indication as to the improvement in the credit quality metrics within the company. .

Turning to the allowance for loan losses, they totaled $67.5 million. At the end of the quarter, it represented 1.33% of our commercial loans and 0.65% of our consumer and home mortgage loans. This resulted in an allowance to total loans held for investments of 1.14%.

The allowance for loan losses represents 181% of nonperforming loans, and as I said before, it excludes the impaired loans..

Looking at interest income at the income statement. We'll look at net interest income. In the first quarter, it totaled $98.7 million. That resulted in a fully tax equivalent net interest margin of 3.92%. .

Interest income declined $7.4 million from the prior quarter, principally due to a $5.5 million decline in recoveries on acquired loans that took place in the fourth quarter. This is reflected in the 18 basis points contraction in the net -- in net interest margin. The effective yield on our acquired loans in the first quarter was 670.

Recoveries were 3.8 million of that, added to the -- to that percentage, and that added 197 basis points to the yield. As a result, the total yield on the acquired loan portfolio was 8.67% in the first quarter. .

When we exclude the acquired loans and look at the net interest margin, we were at a 352, which is up 4 basis points from the prior quarter. And this is a result of expansion in the margin, so the securities portfolio, a consistent yield within the loan portfolio and slight improvement on the cost of interest-bearing deposits. .

And I will tell you that, based on the current rate environment, we would expect this margin, excluding what happens with the acquired loans, to remain relatively stable. .

During the quarter, acquired loan balances declined nearly $60 million.

We expect that these balances will decline approximately another $150 million during the remainder of the year, or about $50 million a quarter, with the yield on the acquired loans, excluding recoveries to be somewhere in the 6.25% to the 6.5% range during the remainder of the year.

This is slightly higher than previous guidance we have given and it reflects the most recent estimates on the cash flows. .

The noninterest income totaled $44.1 million for the first quarter. That's an increase of $5.4 million from the -- of the prior quarter. The improvement reflected a decrease in our partnership amortization of about $2.6 million that are related to the tax credit investments, most of which occurred in the fourth quarter. .

As well as a decrease of $1.7 million in the net reduction of our FDIC indemnification asset, and this was primarily the result of the re-estimation of the cash flows and loan payoffs. Each of these items was included in other noninterest income.

One real positive area within the noninterest income category are Insurance revenues that totaled $8.1 million during the first quarter. That's an increase of 10.3% from the previous quarter and was due in part to increased business in our group-held commercial property and casualty categories. .

Mortgage banking revenue for the first quarter increased $1.6 million and totaled $6.8 million. This was due mainly to an increase in the hedge on the mortgage servicing rights.

Mortgage loan production, for the quarter, was down 16.6% from the prior quarter and totaled 20 -- excuse me, $230 million, which is a reflection of what we're seeing in the market with the refis slowing and was not unexpected nor something we hadn't previously discussed in other calls..

Wealth Management remained strong with revenues steady for the first quarter. Service charges on deposit accounts totaled $11.6 million. That's a decrease of about $1.5 million from the prior quarter, and this is -- we believe, this is a seasonal reduction in NSF and overdraft fees. .

Bank cards and other fees totaled $9.1 million during the first quarter. That's a decrease of about $500,000 from the prior quarter, and reflects seasonal decline in interchange income, as well as the commercial credit-related fee income. .

Noninterest expense for the quarter totaled $101.6 million, excluding ORE and intangible amortization of $5.6 million. Noninterest expense during the first quarter totaled $96 million, a decrease of $3.4 million, which is in line with the guidance that we have given on prior calls..

Our salaries and benefit expense remained well controlled and unchanged from the prior quarter and totaled $56.7 million. Services and fees decreased $1.3 million, and that's due to a reduction in various legal and professional fees that we incurred during the fourth quarter. Other expense decreased $2.2 million from the previous quarter.

And this was a result of lower mortgage loans and expenses and other miscellaneous expenses..

Another note, I'll tell you, we consolidated Somerville Bank & Trust which was the only other bank within the holding company that we had other than Trustmark National Bank during the quarter. This bank had -- we acquired this bank, part of an acquisition in Memphis about 12, 13 years ago. We allowed the bank to operate separately.

During that time, we have been working to bring them into some of the systems and standards with Trustmark, and now that has been completed. We believe it will help eliminate some functions that are duplicated and some operating costs that we can do away with and help to make that operation more efficient.

So we're pleased that, that has been completed without any issues whatsoever..

As we look ahead, we are very excited about the success we've had in the first quarter and the opportunities that are in front of us. Our focus will remain very much on profitable revenue growth and increased focus on expense management.

From a growth perspective, we're encouraged, as I mentioned earlier, about what we're seeing in the pipeline, particularly in the C&I and the real estate lending areas. Improvement in wealth management and the Insurance businesses, I think, are going to also help to drive new revenue growth. .

A key focus that we've talked about in the past has been on our business development and cross-selling efforts. And during the first quarter, I'm very pleased to report that we received more than 23,000 internal referrals -- cross-sell referrals that resulted in 8,700 accounts and more than $70 million just on the deposit side. .

From an expense perspective, we will continue realigning our branch network, based on changing patterns, with our customers and trends in the industry. And we do believe that there are going to be additional opportunities for branch consolidation throughout the year..

As far as Margins and Acquisitions, we continue to stay very focused and pursue opportunities. We do think that there will be those available. And we want to make sure that those opportunities make strategic sense, and they will be both in market and in other attractive markets in the Southeast. .

So recapping, as we look ahead, we continue to expect mid-single-digit loan growth in our held-for-investment portfolio during the remainder of the year. We would anticipate runoff of approximately $150 million of the acquired loan balances, or as I said earlier, $50 million a quarter..

One caveat that as we work through some of these larger transactions in this acquired loan portfolio, that could create some changes as we work through those large transactions. But this is our best estimate at this time. We expect a net interest margin, excluding the acquired loans, to remain at roughly 3.5%.

And we would anticipate the yield on the acquired loans would be, as I said earlier, in the 6.25% to 6.5% range, and that's before recoveries. But I'll note that, that is -- that's a number that's very difficult to estimate. .

We continue to expect quarterly noninterest expense run rate of about $95 million to $96 million, excluding amortization of the intangibles and the ORE expense..

So let me conclude by saying that Trustmark had a great start to the new year, and we look forward with great confidence as we begin our 125th year. And at this time, I would like to open it up to any questions that you might have. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Michael Rose with Raymond James. .

Michael Rose

I just wanted to kind of reconcile your commentary around kind of mid-single-digit growth this year, because it looks like the legacy growth was a little bit better. And wanted to get some context on what happened in Texas this quarter, it looked like growth stalled out after pretty nice growth over the past couple of years.

Was there any pay downs or any seasonal items or anything that impacted growth in Texas?.

Gerard Host

Thanks, Michael. And yes, there was some significant pay down. We had a couple of hotel projects that we had been involved in from a construction standpoint that went to permanent. We had another large participant credit that we were involved in that we choose not to renew. That was very significant. And then a couple of C&I pay downs.

Total amount of large nonscheduled pay downs was in excess of $60 million. .

Operator

The next question comes from Steve Moss with Evercore. .

Stephen Moss

I just want to touch in terms of the C&I book here, what were the big underlying drivers of growth this quarter?.

Gerard Host

On the C&I portfolio, it was very well-diversified throughout the footprint.

Barry, you want to add some specific color?.

R. Barry Harvey

Sure, I'd be glad to, Gerry. The main 2 markets that the growth occurred in, while we did have growth throughout the footprint, as Gerry indicated, we did see quite a bit growth in Mississippi and Alabama. It was energy-related, it was transportation and timber. We had commercial contractors.

Those were the main areas where we saw some growth on the C&I side. .

Stephen Moss

Okay.

And just wondering in terms of pricing these days, what are you guys are seeing? Is that more just on price, or are you seeing on term and structure too?.

R. Barry Harvey

It's mostly on price is what we see. We -- our underwriting process is pretty similar to most institutions we compete against. So there's not a lot of difference in most instances on the opportunities we see.

But from a pricing standpoint, it's -- well, it has somewhat stabilized in terms of the ROEs that we're able to achieve on the credits that we're getting the chance to bid on. We're -- while it has stabilized, it is still fairly competitive and it is fairly thin in some instances on the higher-quality credits.

But the good news is, it has over the last 18, 24 months, it has stabilized in terms of the pricing that we're getting on the higher-quality credits. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Steven Alexopoulos with JPMorgan. .

Preeti Dixit

This is Preeti Dixit on for Steve. Quick question on service charges, they looked pretty soft -- they looked pretty soft this quarter.

Was there any unusual activity there beyond the usual seasonality and could we maybe expect more of a catch-up heading into 2Q?.

Gerard Host

Louis, why don't you answer that?.

Louis Greer

Yes, there's is some seasonality in there. But also I do think we saw a little bit of decline related to maybe some of the weather activity during the first quarter.

People are not being able to get out in the Southeast, because of the weather conditions here in the Southeast, fairly severe winter and we saw less swipes on the debit cards as a result of that, we saw fewer chargers related to that activity. .

Gerard Host

One other thing, let me add to that, Louis. One thing I would comment on, we have seen a change in NSF revenues. Some of that we believe is seasonal, some of it may be a function of people's balance as been higher because of the e-filing of tax returns and receiving their tax payments earlier, as we look at accounts. So it is a bit softer than it was.

Some of it is seasonal, some of it may be behavioral change as well. It is little early to tell. We've -- we think that this is something that other banks are experiencing as well, but it's a little early to be certain. .

Preeti Dixit

Okay, that's really helpful. And then, in terms of the mentioned on the focus on expenses and some branch consolidation, can you maybe give us a little bit color on the puts and takes that keep that guidance at kind of the 95 to 96 range.

And then maybe is there are any opportunities you're seeing to drive that a little bit lower?.

Gerard Host

We're constantly looking at options to drive the number lower. The balance that we look to reach has to do with a process where, as we mentioned earlier, we're looking at branch consolidations in different markets, process improvement through utilizing technology while we have technology spends to keep us current and competitive.

At the same time, we're balancing that against some expenses that we have had related to increased compliance and regulatory costs. One of the things we've talked about last time was DFAS and the fact that we are working through a more robust model to be in compliance with banks over -- the requirements of banks over the $10 billion size.

So a lot of those expenses have been incurred. We would anticipate they're going to be additional expenses, just because of the environment that we're in. We're staying focused, not only on regulatory issues and compliance issues, but also issues that help ensure that safety and soundness from a cyber security standpoint are on the forefront.

And we remain very focused and diligent relative to that issue. So it's very much a balancing act defining expenses at the same time where you're having to incur expenses. We do believe we can keep it at that 95 and 96 level, but internally, there's a lot of things going on to keep it there. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Dave Bishop with Drexel Hamilton. .

David Bishop

I was wondering, Gerry, if you could maybe talk about -- maybe, as you look at capital, maybe the rank order of use of capital, is it acquisitions, maybe solidify the dividend a bit, potential buybacks, M&A? Just curious how you sort of think about use of capital. .

Gerard Host

That's something that is discussed regularly with the board. And I will tell you that, as you mentioned, the different types of capital utilization, our dividend payout ratio is just above 50%. It's been consistent now for a number of years, we've gone through the cycle without lowering that.

We believe that those investors in Trustmark find that to be very beneficial. At the same time we've kept that steady, consistent dividend, we've been able to grow capital and have done 3 acquisitions, one of them is fairly significant last year.

Since then, the profitability has allowed us to grow back the capital levels to a point to where we can sustain this organic growth that we have recognized here in the last 4 quarters on the loan side, sustain that and still have the ability to go out and look at other opportunities.

Because at this point in time, we feel like growth is clearly our major focus and strategy and that's a combination of both organic and M&A opportunities. .

Operator

The next question comes from Blair Brantley with BB&T Capital Markets. .

Blair Brantley

I had some questions on the investment portfolio and how you're kind of thinking about that from a relative size perspective. Obviously, it's growing throughout the cycle.

Just trying to get sense of what maybe your target size maybe given some of the loan growth that you've had recently?.

Gerard Host

I'll let Tom Owens talk a little bit about that strategy there. .

Thomas Owens Principal Financial Officer & Treasurer

So Blair, as we've guided in the past, our current target is about $3.6 billion. You can see, we're up a little bit during the quarter to about that level. There's really been no change in the strategy there.

Gerry mentioned earlier, in terms of liquidity, it seemed like the seasonality of deposit flows were bit higher than where we would expect to be right now, maybe a couple of hundred million dollars or so. We are evaluating the deployment of that liquidity.

So if the market presents the right opportunities, it wouldn't be surprising to see us invest, grow the portfolio $200 million. And then, over time, I think the plan is to maintain it at that level. But as we say, we need to continue to grow earning assets.

And so that would be a lever that you could potentially pull to do that if you don't get the loan growth that you were looking for. But there has been no change in the strategy in terms of duration or the securities that we're investing in. .

Blair Brantley

So all else being equal, as a percent of earning assets, you would expect that to fall over time in your security portfolio?.

Gerard Host

As growth continues, you're right, the normal cycle is, as growth continues, the investment portfolio, cash flow helps to fund that loan growth. And that's what we would expect.

But as Tom said, if in the event we see the economy slow again and loan growth slows, then obviously, he will take advantage of utilizing the excess cash we have in the portfolio. .

Blair Brantley

Okay, and then -- that's very helpful.

And then on and just the reported margin side of it, accretion obviously from BankTrust, there's going to be some volatility and whatnot, but how would you see that kind of trending over time? Or how much license is really left there in terms of that benefit?.

Gerard Host

Well, Barry, you added to my comment, but obviously, there was a significant mark and a significant size within that acquired loan portfolio that we are continuing to work through.

We have recognized some of the opportunities and value, and we would anticipate that there will be additional benefits through the remainder of the year, given the fact that the economy continues to improve. So we would think that there is additional benefit. That the timeframe should be throughout the remainder of this year.

And Barry, I don't know if there is additional color you want to add or not. .

R. Barry Harvey

Yes, Gerry, I guess couple of things, Blair, and Louis might want to chime in on the accretion piece of it. We've talked about our growth rate, $150 million worth of runoff that will occur over the remainder of the year in our acquired loan portfolio, and that's based upon scheduled payments and maturing loans, things of that nature.

Now -- in that part of it, I think, as we know it today, is fairly predictable in some respects. But I think the part that's less predictable is the potential resolving and settling out of some of this debt and it will come in the form of, in many cases, in the form of recoveries.

In some cases, it will come in the form of improvement in the credit itself and show up through the accretion side. But to answer your bigger question is, there's still much life left in the portfolio.

We believe, from a recovery standpoint, there's quite bit of life left in the portfolio, from the standpoint of working through the credit and how we perform based upon the mark we have previously established.

And then that will influence the accretion as well, because as we do work through the problems and hopefully generate some meaningful recoveries, those loans will not be there to accrete on a go forward basis. So it's kind of a -- there's kind of 2 parts to it. .

Louis Greer

Yes, Barry, to add, we've got about $745 million worth of those loans as of March 31. And I'd say the accretable yield on that at March 31, to be accreted over time is still over $100 million. So right at the $103 million, $105 million. So I think at the pace of runoff of about $50 million per quarter, I think you can do the math. .

Operator

The next question comes from Jennifer Demba with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. .

Jennifer Demba

Just curious as to how much of your loan growth during the quarter might have come from participations or shared national credits and the like. And then, I have a question about M&A. .

Gerard Host

Well, Barry, do you have specifics there? Okay, go ahead Barry?.

R. Barry Harvey

Jennifer, what I can tell you is, we are obviously always looking at all of the credit opportunities we have. We've got some pretty strict parameters, by which we decide to get involved in participation.

And we do focus strictly on inside of our market footprint and also making sure there's a business reason to be involved in the credit and not just transaction. There's some ancillary opportunities to obtain additional business.

On a regular basis, on a monthly basis, we monitor carefully our levels of participations, whether it be Snix [ph] or non- Snix [ph] that we buy into, and we have established parameters that are at the board approval level as to how much we're going to have in any given market, in any given type.

We don't track day in and day out how much of our growth is participation versus nonparticipations. But I would say that of the large credits that we're participating in, quite a few of those are shared national credits, or at least purchase participations.

But I would say, from that perspective, it's not -- it's nothing other than credits that are larger than we're looking to have a single hold in. And there is a business reason to be in every one of them and we feel like there's ancillary business to be gained in every one of them, and they are inside of our market footprint. .

Jennifer Demba

Okay. And on the M&A front, you said you're interested in transactions in attractive markets and the footprint.

Specifically what markets hold greater interest for you at this point?.

Gerard Host

Well, basically, that's something, Jennifer, that we're -- we have stated before that our focus is in the Southeast. As you know as well as probably better than I do that opportunities to acquire other banks present themselves or can be gathered, depending upon a particular situation in an organization.

So we have not limited our focus to any particular area or specific market. We have found success in both in-market transactions where we can take some costs out and we can improve market share.

And as well as opportunities like the BankTrust transaction where we really -- we had a mortgage loan presence, but we didn't have a banking presence, and moved into that market and it's done very well with that transaction.

So we'll stay within the Southeast footprint, we'll stay open as to both consolidating opportunities and opportunities to expand the footprint. .

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Gerry Host for any closing remarks. .

Gerard Host

Well, I would like to, first of all, thank you, again, joining us and for your interest in Trustmark. We do believe we have a very good first quarter.

There's great momentum both from a growth standpoint and from, as we have talked, the opportunity on what we're doing with the acquired loan portfolio, the businesses as it relates to wealth management, insurance have done very well. And we believe will continue to do well. And again, we thank you for joining us.

And we look forward to visiting you at the second quarter call. .

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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