Greetings, and welcome to Sportsman's Warehouse Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Rachel Schacter of ICR. Thank you. You may begin..
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. With me on the call is Jon Barker, Chief Executive Officer; and Kevan Talbot, Chief Financial Officer. Before we get started, I would like to remind you of the company's Safe Harbor language.
The statements we make today will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which include statements regarding our expectations about our future results of operations, demand for our products and growth of our industry.
Actual future results may differ materially from those suggested in such statements due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those described under the caption Risk Factors in the company's 10-K for the year ended February 3, 2018, and the company's other filings made with the SEC.
We will also disclose non-GAAP financial measures during today's call.
Definitions of such non-GAAP measures, as well as reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, are provided as supplemental financial information in our press release included as exhibit 99.1 to the Form 8-K we furnished to the SEC today, which is also available on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.sportsmanswarehouse.com.
Now, I would like to turn the call over to Jon Barker, Chief Executive Officer of Sportsman's Warehouse..
reloading components, magazine and the rimfire segments within our ammunition category. Looking to our non-hunting categories, footwear was positive 2,9% with solid performance from hiking and workboots along with waders. Fishing was positive 1.4%, driven by the core products of rods, reels and fly fishing.
In the camping department, we saw a negative impact from generator sales, which were down 34% as we comped prior year natural disasters and a change in promotion from a key vendor. We achieved adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.26 for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018, which was in-line with our expectation.
Our gross margins for the quarter came in towards a high-end of expectations, despite increased supply chain costs. Our operating expenses were in line with our expectations. Kevan will discuss the Q3 financial performance in greater detail in a moment.
Now, I’d like to spend a few moments highlighting the progress we made in the third quarter against our key strategic priorities for 2018 beginning with our omni-channel strategy.
In terms of brick-and-mortar, as previously mentioned, we opened our 11th California location in Milpitas during August, which completed our five-store growth plan or 4.4% square footage growth since the end of third quarter fiscal 2017. Looking ahead, our store site collection for fiscal year 2019 is well underway.
We plan to open between four and five stores next year or between 3% and 4% square footage growth. The first of these stores is scheduled to open during summer of 2019 in Lansing, Michigan.
We will continue to maintain our strategy of moderate store growth, which will allow us to further invest in our e-commerce capabilities and allocate free cash flow towards debt reduction. On the e-commerce side, we are pleased with the continued strong growth we saw within our e-commerce segment across all categories during the third quarter.
I’m excited to announce today that our new front-end platform sportsmans.com is up and running in beta and in parallel with our legacy platform operating as sportsmanswarehouse.com. Launching a platform of this scale and complexity, ahead of schedule is a testament to the passion and commitment of our team and partners on this strategic initiative.
Over the next several weeks, we will continue to load test and improve a new platform before transitioning all of our website visitors to the new site and URL, sportsmans.com. While still very early, we have received positive customer response to the improved usability and content on the new site.
Earlier than schedule, the new platform in beta is already providing our customers the ability to shop our immense selection of firearms across our stores in real-time, and place a buy online pick up in store order with the firearm being ready for regulatory processing and pickup within hours.
The buy online pickup and store orders increased approximately 75%, versus the prior year during the key Cyber weekend period that just ended.
Over the coming months, we will continue to roll-out this functionality across other categories allowing us to leverage our existing store inventory and foot print along with our expensive assortment to satisfy our customers.
Looking at customer acquisition and engagement, we are excited about a recently launched in-store program around our firearms category aimed to increase customer confidence in the purchase cycle, while increasing life time value of the customer relationship.
We now offer a firearm service plan across a majority of our store base, which includes a concurrent warranty, as well as cleaning and accessory installation services. As a market leader in firearms, the launch of the service enhances the in-store support and further strengthens the relationship of our customers.
We also continue to be pleased with our customer engagement efforts through our royalty program. Our loyalty members grew more than 23% to 1.8 million members versus Q3 of 2017 and represent approximately 46% of our revenue.
We continue to utilize personalized marketing strategies for our royalty members based on information we know about their shopping preferences and look forward to increasing these efforts through innovative technologies in conjunction with our new e-commerce platform.
Turning to merchandizing, our branded and exclusive products complemented by our private label offering differentiates us within the outdoor sporting goods space. On the branded side, our store-within-a-store concept shops are proving successful.
This initiative drilled a significant comp store increase for Q3 with these concept shops highlighting the opportunity in how we present key brands across categories. Regarding private label, we are staying relative with our customers by providing a strong value proposition with our private label products across categories and price points.
During Q3, given the opportunity we saw to fill a void within the workwear category, we launched our first workwear private label, Wasatch Outdoor gear, in key markets and are encouraged by the strong initial performance.
The positive customer response to the private label extensions are a testament to our customers desire for a quality product at good value across good better and best price points. So, in summary, we are pleased with our third quarter performance and a solid progress made on our key strategic priorities.
As you saw in our press release, we are narrowing our previously provided full-year guidance. Before turning the call over to Kevan, I wanted to mention a few recent key hires as we continue to strengthen our talented team. First, Steve Stoner has been brought on board as our new Senior Vice President of Human Resources.
Additionally, Eric [indiscernible] has been hired as Director of Inventory Planning. Both divisions are newly created and will add tremendous value to the organization. Also, as announced earlier this month, we added Rich McBee to our Board of Directors.
We are looking forward to benefiting from the expertise of his addition as we continue to capitalize on the growth opportunities that I had for Sportsman's Warehouse. Finally, I want to thank all of our hardworking team members who contributed to a productive and successful third quarter.
We believe we have an attractive runway ahead as we continue to strengthen our competitive positioning and build on our market share. With that, I’ll turn the call over the Kevan to discuss our financials..
Thanks Jon. Good morning to everyone. I'll begin my remarks with a review of our third quarter results and then discuss our outlook for the remainder of fiscal year 2018. My comments today will focus on adjusted results.
We have provided these results, as well as an explanation of each line item and reconciliation to GAAP net income and earnings per share in our earnings press release, which was issued earlier today.
Before I review our results, as a reminder due to the 53rd week in fiscal year 2017, all references to same store sales for fiscal year 2018 are compared to the shifted period for the comparable period for fiscal year 2017.
For the third fiscal quarter, same-store sales for the period ended November 3, 2018 are compared to the same number of weeks for the period ended November 4, 2017, which is the comparable period. Net sales for the quarter increased 2.3% to $223.1 million from $218.1 million in the third quarter of last year.
Same-store sales decreased 0.5% in-line with our expectations. We opened one store during the third quarter in Milpitas, California and ended the quarter with 92 stores and 23 states or square footage growth of 4.4% from the end of the third quarter of fiscal year 2017.
As Jon mentioned, this new store opening was the last of our five planned store openings for fiscal year 2018.
In the third quarter, the competitive headwinds from new store openings were 60 basis points, which was better than the second quarter headwind of 130 basis points with only two stores of our 86-compatible store-base impacted by new competition.
We continue to be pleased with broad-based comp performance across geographies, including our stores in oil and gas markets, which provided a 20-basis point comp tailwind in the third quarter. Gross profit increased to 0.8% to $77.6 million, compared to $77 million in the third quarter of fiscal year 2017.
As expected, gross profit as a percentage of net sales decreased 50 basis points towards the high-end of our expectations to 34.8% from 35.3% in the prior year period, primarily due to the impact of increasing costs of transportation in our supply chain.
SG&A increased 4.6% to $60.1 million for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018 from $57.4 million in the third quarter of fiscal year 2017. As a percentage of net sales, SG&A expenses in the quarter increased approximately 60 basis points to 26.9% from 26.3%.
This deleverage was driven by our planned e-commerce investment and increased wages in our stores and distribution center. Income from operation in the quarter was $17.5 million as compared to $19.5 million in the third quarter of fiscal year 2017.
Our net interest expense in the third quarter of 2018 was $2.6 million, compared to $3.5 million in the third quarter of 2017 as we have begun to realize the interest expense reduction associated with our new debt structure.
We recorded an income tax expense of $2.5 million for the 13-weeks ended November 3, 2018, compared to $6.2 million in the corresponding period of fiscal year 2017, a decrease in our effective tax rate from 38.8% in the third quarter of the prior year to 16.7% during the current year.
The change in the effective tax rate for the 13 weeks ended November 3, 2018 was primarily due to discrete items, relating to a change in tax depreciation method used on specific classes of fixed assets and U.S. tax reform enacted during 2017, which reduced the federal statutory tax rate of 35% to 21%.
Net income for the quarter was $12.4 million or $0.29 per diluted share, based on diluted weighted average shares of $43 million, as compared to net income of $9.8 million or $0.23 per share based on diluted weighted average shares of 42.6 million last year.
Adjusted net income, which excludes the non-recurring benefit of $1.3 million related to the tax change I just described was $11.1 million or $0.26 per share in the third quarter of 2018, compared to net income of $9.8 million or $0.23 per share in the third quarter of last year.
Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter decreased to $22.6 million, compared to $25.1 million in the prior year period. Turning to our balance sheet. As of November 3, 2018, ending inventory was $369.1 million, as compared to $318.3 million as of the end of the prior year period.
Inventory increased by 8.4% on a per store basis versus the third quarter of the prior year. This increase was driven as a result of the one-week shift in the end of our quarter being closer to the holidays as well as our decision to accelerate receipts of inventory for the holidays and ahead of the new tariffs.
We expect to end this fiscal year with inventory consistent with the prior fiscal year on a per store basis. Our liquidity remains strong as we ended the quarter with $181.6 million outstanding in borrowings on our $250 million credit facility. We incurred approximately $6.3 million in capital expenditures during the third quarter.
Turning to our outlook. We are narrowing our outlook for the full-year. Our outlook for the fourth quarter is as follows. Revenue in the range of $238 million to $246 million, a same-store sales change in the range of down 1% to positive 2%, compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2017 as adjusted for the one-week shift.
Diluted earnings per share of $0.23 to $0.26 on a weighted average of approximately 43 million estimated common shares outstanding. Embedded in our fourth-quarter outlook is modest gross margin pressure driven by continued freight headwinds in our supply chain.
SG&A deleveraged, given our planned e-commerce investment and wage pressures due to expectations for continued minimum wage headwinds combined with increased competitive wage pressures in our distribution center.
For fiscal year 2018, we expect revenue of $844 million to $852 million and a same-store sales change in the range of flat to positive 2%, compared to fiscal year 2017 as adjusted for the one-week shift.
We continue to expect approximately $11.5 million in interest expense for 2017 when adjusted for the $1.6 million write-off of deferred financing fees related to our old term loan during the second quarter.
We anticipate adjusted earnings per diluted share of $0.59 to $0.62 on a weighted average of approximately 43 million estimated common shares outstanding. Continuing to pay down debt and reduce our leverage remains a priority for the remainder of 2018.
As it relates to capital expenditures, we expect to incur approximately $17 million to $18 million in total capital expenditures in fiscal year 2018 or net capital expenditures of $12 million to $14 million inclusive of approximately $5 million to $6 million in deemed sale-leaseback transactions in landlord incentives that we expect to receive for the year.
Approximately $800,000 of our CapEx for fiscal year 2018 is attributed to the e-commerce investment. Lastly, on the topic of tariffs, our direct import exposure to tariff impacted items is in the very low single-digit range and with in-direct purchases this rises to the low double-digit range.
Vendor negotiations to help manage any potential impact are well underway and we expect to use prices an additional tool to mitigate any tariff related impact to our operating income dollars for the rest of the year, as well as for fiscal year 2019. With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operator to open up the call to questions..
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Peter Benedict with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question..
Hi guys.
So, Kevan just following up on the tariff comments you just had there, have you made – given a sense have you made any price adjustments so far on items and curious kind of what items are most exposed for you guys to the tariffs and I guess what’s been the historic kind of elasticity on those items when prices have gone up or down?.
Great questions, Peter. So, as we’ve looked at it. We have not made any price changes quite yet, although we are evaluating that and anticipate that we will see some price changes as these tariffs come into play after the first of the year.
The primary categories that we’re seeing these are in our camping furniture, a lot of that that comes from – directly from China. That’s the biggest category although there are some other items that are interest first throughout others, the one that surprised me the other day that I heard about was hats starting in January as well.
So, we’re monitoring this, we’re having discussions with our vendor's and we’re prepared to make the changes if necessary, there to mitigate those.
With respect to your question on the elasticities it would be interesting to see what happens there, while we’ve had price changes in the past, some of these changes are going to be pretty significant price changes. So, it will be interesting to see what kind of impact that it has on the elasticity there.
I don't know that we’ve seen and can speak to what we expect there because I don’t know that we’ve price changes a bit magnitude before..
Okay. That’s definitely helpful thanks.
Can you talk about the promotional environment? I think at the end of last quarter you guys had mentioned that maybe some of the promotional activity within farms had moderated a little bit just curious kind of any update there, not just on fire arms, but also just kind of the broader outdoor sporting goods market as we head into holidays here?.
Specific. Let’s start with – Peter, this is Jon. Good morning..
Hi, Jon..
Let’s start with firearms first. We’ve had definitely a moderated or more normalcy in firearm promotion this peak season, compared to last.
If you remember, last October we had the finalization of the acquisition of the two large players in our market and we saw significant promotional activity immediately afterwards and my understanding is that was to reduce inventory.
We also saw, I think, the independents cleared through some of their excess inventory that came out of the 2016 election cycle. So, we’ve seen a more normalized promotional cadence from our competitors.
We did see some very deep discounting in the last week from one of the – what I would consider a less specialized big box retailers that’s in firearms and ammunition that we did see some significant promotional activity for about a week or so.
I don't know if that again was to clear inventory or a customer acquisition, but it was very, very deep discounts that we haven't seen from that big box retailer in the past.
On the other hand, we did see some manufacturers pull back this year on a promotional activity and I think it was partially clearing their supply chains that they went through last fall and then some re-organization of one of the major players in the industry both in the firearms and ammunition.
So, we saw less promotion from that manufacture this year. So, it’s been mixed, but more normal from our competitive set and somewhat of a pull back from one major manufacturer. On the non-firearms side, it’s been pretty base standard.
We’ve seen some deep discounting on the apparel side from again the two primary competitors, the one through the acquisition.
We’ve seen some pull back and promotion in camping and I specifically called out generators, the major vendor in the industry did not have the promotional cadence this fall that they did prior year on their highest selling or highest velocity SKU. So, it’s been a little bit of a mix outside of the firearms..
That’s very helpful. Thanks for the color. I guess my last question would just be around like the firearm comps and the MO comps, I wasn't sure if the unit numbers you cited earlier were a comp store number or total. I think you said, up 8.8%.
So, just kind of curious like what we’re hunting and shooting comps for the quarter, and then how did the comps look at firearms and ammo and then units if you had it. Thank you..
Yes, Peter, on the firearm unit metric that I shared that was total units, and Kevan can talk about the comp store information here briefly to make sure we get the data in front of us..
Yes. On our hunting and shooting category was basically flat. It was up positive 10 basis points. Our firearm revenue on a comp store basis was up 3.2%, ammunition was down 3.4%, they basically offset one another and the category in total was flat for the quarter..
That’s great.
Do you have a firearm comp unit number Kevan?.
I don't have that in front of me..
Okay. That's it from me. I’ll pass it on. Thanks guys..
Thanks Peter..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Keith with Piper Jaffray. Please proceed with your question..
Good morning guys. It’s actually Bobby Friedner on for Peter. A quick question around private label, it seems like there is interesting initiatives going. Just hoping that could scale to the point where you guys have positive impact on margin, any color would be great. Thank you..
Bobby, this is Jon. Good morning. As we’ve talked in the past private label meaning that it’s something, we’re developing either on our own or in conjunction with a vendor with a brand on it, is roughly 3.5% to 3.8% of the business.
I can see that growing over time into the high single digits, strategically our intent is not to be a majority of the product in our store.
Our own brands our customers are looking for the key brands in the categories and we expect to only to fill in the gaps within the assortment whether it is a missing item in a good better best whether that be in an extreme cooler, a gun case or workwear.
The margins, as you would expect are much better on a private label that we’re direct sourcing versus the branded product in that ranges and varies depending on category. The other thing that’s unique about our model that we haven't necessarily talked a lot about in the past is the amount of special make-ups or exclusives that we have.
Throughout our store in nearly every category you will find product that’s being developed on our behalf by our manufacturers specific to us. Where we are actually helping design improvement, it still stays under their brand name, but it’s an item that you can only receive within our store and sometimes that’s geographic-based.
There are certain things about a rifle for instance in the west and a consumer might be looking for that are different than a rifle on the East and the manufacturers have helped us design those items specific to our business and I think that’s one of the things that also contributes to the uniqueness of our assortment for the consumer..
Alright. Thanks a lot..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Kawamoto with D. A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question..
Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question.
Just first off, your comps held up better than expected in 3Q, 4Q looks promising given the guide, which is good to see, did the elongated wildfire season in California have any material impact on what you are seeing maybe in camping?.
Yes. Michael good morning. It’s Jon. We did. We saw continued impact from drought and fires in camping nearly all season. As we have talked in the past, this summer, we saw public land shutdown in Arizona and New Mexico you couldn't even access it.
Then we had fires throughout the west, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, most recently the devastating fires throughout California that have elongated. So, we definitely saw and impact in that.
We did have stores very close to that, our Chico store, we had associates impacted by that terrible fire that just got wrapped up and it definitely impacted the business to some extent and directly in camping..
Got it. Thanks.
And then just on the omnichannel wire, what does that buy online pick up in-store customer look like, are they buying additional products when they do come in to pick up their order?.
Absolutely. Michael that’s one of the greatest things about this tool, right. We can provide the full assortment to the consumer online without having to have all that inventory in the store.
We can have it in the store within a couple of days then we're contacting them to pick up that firearm, and at the same time we’re able to fully outfit security ammunition optics, accessories, protection and then as well the firearm service plan that I mentioned is a great contributor to that sale to help build confidence with the consumer that we're their full-service shop to not only sell them the items, but fully outfit the items and then stand behind with our service plan going forward..
Got it. Good to hear.
And then just last one, one of your manufacturers noted they thought hunting season maybe got off to a later slower start this year, I was just wondering if you are seeing something similar to that or if you noted customers were buying closer to new year or anything like that?.
Michael I'm not sure I have any data that I could speak to on that. Overall, we were pleased with the hunting season.
It may have started a little bit late, again, weather can be a major contributor and I think we have at least one deer season pushed back a week in the north-west you know more some things around for us this year, but overall, we were pleased with the performance..
Got it. Thanks for your time and good luck for the rest of the year..
Thanks Michael..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Sigman with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question..
Thanks. Hi guys, thanks for taking the question. A couple of follow-up questions here. First just in terms of the regional performance specifically on oil and gas markets.
It sounds like those stores outpaced the rest of the chain, I think it was accretive overall, but maybe a little bit less than in prior quarters, so I'm just wondering are you guys starting to see some moderation perhaps in those markets and I guess I'm wondering if that coincides with the recent pullback in oil prices? And then separately on the comments around camping and the wildfires anyway to quantify what that impact could have been this past quarter? Thanks..
Seth, with respect to the oil and gas markets, you’re correct. The tailwind from the oil and gas markets certainly has reduced what we’ve seen over the past few quarters. We’re still pleased with how those markets are performing, and it could be because of the pullback in the oil prices, but we do still see continued growth in those markets.
We’re very optimistic that that employee base, the customer base in those markets as having their wallet replenished and returning to some good spending habits there with respect to that. So, and I'm trying to blink on the second question, my apologies..
Just in terms of quantifying the impact on the camping business from the fires this quarter?.
We know it had an impact, but we don't necessarily have a good way to quantify that. So, I wish we had some good statistics there. Certainly, it was a factor as Jon indicated, the fires were widespread across a lot of our markets in the west. So, unfortunately, we don't have a good way to quantify that..
Okay. And then just to clarify in the energy markets.
The moderation in the tailwind that you are seeing, could it be weather or some other factor or do you think it is that consumer may be moderating a bit?.
I don't know specifically the weather patterns in those markets. I’d have to do some more research on that one with respect to the weather. The consumer is moderating a little bit there, but it is still growing and it is still providing a tailwind to us..
Okay.
And then my follow-up question is around the store growth strategy and if you could just elaborate on the decision to open up 4 to 5 stores next year, versus reaccelerating the growth and as you think about the CapEx plans for next year should we expect it to be similar to this year?.
Seth it is Jon. We’re moderating the store growth in 2018 and then continue with that in 2019 as part of the strategy, two part. One is, we need to be able to focus our efforts and resources to bring our omnichannel and e-commerce capabilities up to where they can be to some of our customers.
At the same time, it allows us to reduce our capital spending and get our debt ratios into a, what I would say a more conservative level so that going into 2020 we have more flexibility to consider growing stores or similar in a greater way..
Okay. Thank you for that and Jon you’ve made a lot of progress online over the last few quarters.
As it relates to the strategy online, I’m just curious, maybe just update us on the progress and specifically, I’m wondering how incremental is that customer that you’re appealing to that you’re attracting, just any more color on that would be great? Thanks..
So, Seth, hopefully I will have a chance today to check out the near side, as I mentioned it’s up and running in beta, the Hybris platform. Just go to sportsmans.com versus sportsmanswarehouse.com.
Again, it will take us a few more weeks to work through the minor bumps in the road and get load testing, but the response has been fantastic and is providing not only new content, but new functionality for the consumer and access to our inventory real time and we are literally updating that hundreds of thousands of combinations of inventory from our store in every couple of minutes.
So, the unlock that is here and the experience and the leverage on our locations and inventory, I think it could be immense. As far as new customer acquisition, what I would say is, we are in the – I don't usually use sports analogies, but we are in a very first inning of new customer acquisition when it comes to digital marketing.
We have just started to test some local inventory as with Google. It’s a new feed for us and again it will take us a little while to optimize. We also are starting to look geographically to bid in a great way and acquire more online customers in markets where we historically haven't had physical locations.
So, if you look today where most of our e-commerce business is coming from it wouldn't surprise you it's close to our stores in our current base. We have a huge opportunity in front of us to acquire customers throughout this entire country until the story of our brand and what we can bring forward.
So, really excited about the opportunity, but I do want to be – I do want to temper that and that we have it really started that in a material way and it will probably be many months before you start to see us a ramp that up because the new site needs to be, again, we need to be comfortable that it’s working in all forms and fashions the way that we expect before we presented to a whole new customer base..
Understood. Thanks for the color and best of luck..
Thank you..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ronald Bookbinder with IFS Securities. Please proceed with your question..
Good morning and congratulations on another solid quarter.
On the e-commerce of firearms, with you being able to drop ship specialty items from the manufacturer to the store, how did those items from e-commerce impact the firearm unit comp and what sort of difference is there on those items from the in-store items, especially on price point?.
Ron, specific to how it was incremental, I probably don't have that data in front of me. What I can tell you is about one-third of the firearm units that we sell on the website that are picked up in the store or units coming from our drop ship relationships.
They tend to be more unique on the long tail, meaning they're either unique calibers or unique configurations in a rifle or a shotgun or a handgun that we might not carry in all stores or in the local market in which a consumer is in. So, they tend to be a little higher on the average selling price with some of them being extremely high.
We sell firearms well over $10,000 on the website and nearly every one of those drop ship item and being able to bring that assortment to a consumer with no working capital investment is a nice win and we’re really pleased with some of the unique items that we're able to sell. And there's more opportunity to come with that.
I can see growing this assortment significantly over the next year or so to increase that long tail and be able to provide anything in the market or nearly anything in the market to our consumer, while utilizing our drop ship relationships..
Okay. And on the private label, the new workwear looks great.
Do you have private label in footwear, especially boots?.
We don't at this time Ron. It’s something that we continue to talk about. We’ve got experiences in the organization in design and manufacturing around footwear. It’s something we will continue to evaluate, but it’s not on our 2019 plan. I can go ahead and say that for now..
Joe Snyder is still on your board of directors; wouldn't he be a great asset in helping develop private label boots?.
Yes, he is. And that was kind of my reference, you know Joe and I and the team have talked a lot about the opportunity within that Ron and that may very well be something we look at in the future it’s not on the immediate roadmap.
There is some unique components about the footwear design development or manufacturing that we would want to be prepared for before we got into that category..
Okay. And lastly, on labor. Last time, I was in your store, it will probably warm your heart to hear this, at least 7 people offered me help in the store.
With labor being tight and cost being up, is there an opportunity to maybe cut back a bit or is that one of the things that really makes your store or special, is the availability of knowledgeable staff to help you in whatever department you happen to be shopping?.
It’s always a balance Ron, and it’s not only a balance in day of the week, but it can be a balance time of the day and it could be a balance geographically as seasons come in and out. And we've got pretty good history in our stores on what days and what time are going to be are in our label models are aligned to that. So, we are never satisfied.
I think it’s the way to look at it. We sometimes feel like we’re understaffed at certain stores, certain times of the day and we’re pushing to make sure we get the right service to our consumer.
At the same time, we’re constantly watching our labor expenses on our reports to make sure that we’re adjusting downward the labor hours within the store in slower period. So, it’s a fine line that we’re talking about on a daily basis, it’s an organization.
We’ve got to be there with the expertise to service our consumer, but during the slow period we need to make sure we manage those labor hours down..
Okay, thank you very much. And good luck in the holiday season..
Thank you, Ron..
Thank you. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks..
Again, I want to thank everyone for their time today, and especially the – over 5,000 employees and associates at Sportsman's Warehouse that have worked diligently to continue progress our business forward, which can be seen through our strategic initiatives and the performance we posted in Q3.
With that, I will end the call and thank you again for your time..
Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day..