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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q4
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Executives

Suni Davis - Senior Vice President and Chief Risk Officer Lee Gibson - President and Chief Executive Officer Julie Shamburger - Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Analysts

Michael Belmes - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc Brad Milsaps - Sandler O'Neill & Partners LP Brett Rabatin - Piper Jaffray Michael Young - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Brian Zabora - Hovde Group LLC.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Southside Bancshares, Inc., Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time.

[Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Suni Davis, Senior Vice President and Chief Risk Officer. Please go ahead..

Suni Davis

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining Southside Bancshares' fourth quarter and year-end 2017 earnings call. The purpose for this call is to discuss the Company's results for the quarter and year-end as well as our outlook for upcoming quarters.

A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other disclosures and presentations, I will remind you that any forward-looking statements made are subject to risks and uncertainties.

Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and in our Form 10-K. Joining me today to review Southside Bancshares' fourth quarter and year-end 2017 results are Lee Gibson, President and CEO; and Julie Shamburger, Senior EVP and CFO. Our agenda today is as follows.

First, you will hear Julie discuss an overview of financial results for the quarter and year-end, including loan activity, asset quality, and update on our securities portfolio and the impact of tax reform.

Then Lee will share his comments on 2017 including our progress with integrating Diboll State Bancshares as a result of the November 30, 2017 merger. I will now turn the call over to Julie..

Julie Shamburger Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Suni. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Southside Bancshares’ 2017 fourth quarter and year-end earnings call.

We had a solid fourth quarter with net income of $10.3 million after the impact of both the Diboll State Bancshares acquisition expense and the write-down of our net deferred tax asset to the reduced corporate rate of 21% from 35% both occurring in the fourth quarter.

For the year ended December 31, 2017, we reported net income of $54.3 million, an increase of $5 million or 10.1% compared to $49.3 million for the same period in 2016.

Our diluted earnings per share for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2017 were $0.33 per share, a decrease of $0.09 or 21.4% compared to $0.42 per share for the same period in 2016. For the year ended December 31, 2017 diluted earnings per share were $1.81, the same as for the year ended 2016.

When combined both the impact of the acquisition expense net of tax and the write-down of the net deferred tax asset directly to income tax expense negatively impacted our earnings per share $0.16 and $0.19 per fully diluted share for the fourth quarter and year of 2017 respectively.

For the year ended December 31, 2017, total loans excluding acquired loans increased $116.5 million or 4.6% when compared to December 31, 2016. The organic growth occurred in the commercial real estate construction and municipal loan portfolios, while the loans acquired in the Diboll acquisition increased all categories.

Our indirect portfolio continue to roll-off decreasing $3.5 million during the fourth quarter and $23 million during 2017, leaving a remaining balance of approximately $12.9 million at the end of December. At December 31, 2017, our loans with oil and gas industry exposure are 1.5% of our total loan portfolio.

We recorded loan loss provision expanse during the fourth quarter of $1.3 million, an increase of $311,000 from the third quarter. During the year ended December 31, 2017, the allowance for loan losses increased $2.9 million or 16% to $20.8 million or 0.63% of total loans, when compared to 0.7% at December 31, 2016.

Non-performing assets decreased during the year ended December 31, 2017 by $4.6 million or 30.7%, down to $10.5 million or 0.16% of total assets, compared to $15.1 million or 0.27% of total assets at December 31, 2016. This decrease was primarily due to the payoff of several non-accrual commercial loans during the first half of the year.

Next, I will give a brief update on our securities portfolio. Excluding securities acquired in the acquisition, our securities portfolio increased $11.9 million for the fourth quarter and decreased $203.3 million for the year. We also recorded an impairment charge of $234,000 during the fourth quarter related to $109 million of U.S.

Agency Debentures we sold during January of 2018. The duration of the securities portfolio at December 31, 2017 was approximately 4.8 years, a decrease from five years at September 30, 2017 and 5.1 years at December 31, 2016. At December 31, 2017, we had a net unrealized loss in the securities portfolio of $8.3 million.

As loan growth occurred during the year, we gradually reduced the size of the securities portfolio.

These changes combined with the Diboll acquisition resulted in a shift in the mix of our loans and securities to 57% loans, 43% securities at the end of the fourth quarter compared to 51% loans, 49% securities at December 31, 2016, moving toward our longer range goal of a 70/30 mix.

We expect to continue with the barbell approach for future security purchases using U.S. agency CMOs for the short-end and treasury notes, agency in commercial mortgage-backed securities for the longer end.

During the fourth quarter, our net interest margin increased 10 basis points to 3.12%, and our net interest spread increased 9 basis points to 2.91% on a linked quarter basis. The increase in both the net interest margin and spread were a direct result of an increase in the average yield on our average earning assets.

During the fourth quarter of 2017, we incurred additional merger expense of approximately $3.5 million in connection with the closing of the Diboll transaction on November 30, 2017. Approximately half of the success was in connection with contract terminations.

Additionally, in connection with the merger, we incurred additional amortization expense associated with an increase in our intangible assets in connection with the acquisition.

While our non-interest expense increased during the three months ended December 31, 2017 on a linked quarter basis, we continue to see an improvement in our efficiency ratio, down to 49.42% for the fourth quarter of 2017, from 49.99% last year.

For the year ended December 31, 2017, our efficiency ratio decreased to 50.3% from 54.08% for the year ended 2016. As a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passed in December, we are currently estimating our effective tax rate for 2018 will be approximately 12.4%. Thank you. And I will now turn the call over to Lee..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Julie. We enjoyed another excellent quarter, highlighted by the completion of the Diboll State Bancshares acquisition. After two full months of combined operations, the merger is proceeding smoother than we originally projected. Customer transition has gone extremely well due to advanced planning and the similarity of our two cultures.

The expanded contiguous markets we now serve in East Texas, the addition of Diboll’s outstanding talent, the overall low cost deposit franchise, and the quality loan portfolio are some of the reasons why we are so excited about this strategic transaction.

Conversion and transition teams are meeting weekly to ensure continued smooth integration and to plan for the core conversion in late April. The decrease in the securities portfolio during the third quarter of $121 million, mostly due to the sales of longer duration securities combined with the subsequent sale of $109 million of U.S.

Agency Debentures during January of this year provide us additional balance sheet flexibility in this currently higher interest rate environment. Should the anticipated Fed interest rate increases occur, the Diboll acquired core deposit franchise should provide a more stable and profitable funding source.

We are not wavering on our credit underwriting standards and our asset quality ratios remain strong as reflected by our non-performing assets to total assets ratio of 0.16%. Cost containment and process improvement efforts continue to be major areas of focus.

As Julie pointed out, our efficiency ratio during the fourth quarter declined to 49.4% and our efficiency ratio for the year declined to 50.3%, very close to the stated target of 50% for all of 2017. The economic conditions in all three of the markets we serve East Texas, the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and Austin remained healthy.

The Austin and DFW markets yield primarily by job growth and company relocations continued to perform exceptionally well.

We are excited about our prospects for 2018 given the newly acquired balance sheet and market area benefits associated with the reduced corporate tax rates, the dynamic growing markets we serve, our strong balance sheet, capital position, credit quality, and foremost, our outstanding team members.

At this time, we will conclude our prepared remarks and open the lines for your questions..

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brady Gailey with KBW. Your line is now open..

Michael Belmes

Good morning. Yes, Mike Belmes on for Brady..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi Mike.

How are you doing?.

Michael Belmes

Doing well. Appreciated. I guess my first question, as you guys had some nice NIM expansion this quarter.

Could you maybe give some color in terms of how much the acquired loans benefited that? And then secondly related to the NIM with tax reform, how should we think about the FTE NIM going forward?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Okay.

Julie, you want to talk about the loan accretion?.

Julie Shamburger Chief Financial Officer

Yes. The accretion that we’re reporting during the fourth quarter was roughly $438,000. Approximately $185,000 of that was directly related to the Diboll acquisition and the remainder was the Omni acquisition as a purchase lines..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

And as for the moving forward NIM and spread on a fully taxable equivalent basis, we are anticipating that the non-GAAP measures associated with that will decrease the NIM and the spread about 12 basis points due to the reduction in the tax rate from 35% down to 21%..

Michael Belmes

Gotcha. Very helpful. Appreciated. Then one more question for me if I may.

You guys closed Diboll and plant conversions in late April, how should we think about the expense base? Is this around 32% to 33%, kind of, the right range for maybe Q1?.

Julie Shamburger Chief Financial Officer

No. We are estimating closer to around 30%, 29.9% roughly..

Michael Belmes

Okay. Perfect..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

And that would be for the first quarter then we will have some gradual reduction in the second quarter, and then by the third quarter, we'll be able to provide a better update as to what we think that's going to be probably at our first quarter earnings call..

Michael Belmes

Perfect. Appreciate the color. Thanks..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

All right..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Milsaps with Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open..

Brad Milsaps

Hey. Good morning, guys..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Brad..

Brad Milsaps

Lee, maybe – could you just talk a little bit about the core sort of Southside or organic loan growth in the quarter. I know you guys usually have a pretty good end to the year, but obviously you focused on bringing the acquisition in and other things, tax reform et cetera.

Can you talk a little bit about the loan pipeline and kind of what happen in the quarter and how you feel about 2018?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Okay. Yes. Basically the payoffs exceeded our funding in the fourth quarter slightly. So the organic loan growth was actually down, I think about 1.5% during the fourth quarter. For 2018, the pipeline looks good. We do anticipate some additional payoffs that will come in, but we're budgeting for 7% loan growth in 2018..

Brad Milsaps

Okay. That's helpful. And then Julie, just back to your expense guidance.

Does that include the new kind of CDI run rate of around $700,000 or so quarterly going forward?.

Julie Shamburger Chief Financial Officer

That is correct. Yes it does..

Brad Milsaps

Okay. And I was thinking, I maybe wrong here, but Diboll was like maybe a $7 million quarterly run rate in expenses. Based on your guidance, it seems like you'll be much less than that.

Is that more reflective of getting cost saves out sooner at the acquisition or I know you guys have had some big efficiency plans internally, can you just kind of talk about kind of how those two numbers square?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Basically what we looked at is, I mean, one, we've done a budget, and two, we looked at the run rate of about $30 million in December with $3.5 million of that being acquisition expense. We don't expect ongoing acquisition expense to be that much.

And then the run rate moving – we have one-month of run rate of Diboll in the fourth quarter and so we'll have two additional months of that. So combine it's going to be somewhere close to about $5 million..

Brad Milsaps

Okay. Got it. I'm sorry. I didn't understand correctly. You're including the merger expense, in other words that will be – that will go away, but that will be replaced by the other two months. I got it. I understand. Thank you..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

That's correct..

Julie Shamburger Chief Financial Officer

Additional amortization expense..

Brad Milsaps

Got it. All right. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brett Rabatin with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open..

Brett Rabatin

Hi. Good morning, everyone..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Brett..

Brett Rabatin

I wanted to – my line broke up a little bit, when in your closing comments. Just wanted to go back to – for the tax reform.

Lee, what are you expecting your tax rate to be pro forma here in the first quarter?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

We’re projecting it to be 12.4%..

Brett Rabatin

Okay. And then on fee income, you had some nice growth in the Trust.

I am just curious how you are thinking about the opportunities with the acquisition and maybe your outlook for fee income this year?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

In the Trust department, that with the acquisition basically our Trust assets under management doubled. So we're anticipating that Trust income will be up nicely this year, close to double what it was in 2017. Deposit services income, it looks like with the acquisition that's going to be up nicely.

And then I would expect the gains on sale of loans to be about the same as well as the other items that you see there..

Brett Rabatin

Okay. And then maybe one just last one if I can. You talked about in the press release, customers being more optimistic and you've added some commercial producers with the deal.

Is the growth that you're expecting in 2018 is that going to be – you think more C&I focused and can you talk maybe about what you're trying to grow the portfolio in 2018 in terms of the segments?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

We are seeing some additional opportunities in C&I. The optimism comes from the reduced regulation, and obviously the tax cuts that were implemented effective January 1 of this year. So we do anticipate additional C&I business, but also we’ll have some commercial real estate.

We anticipate good continued loan growth, and those probably would be the areas of focus..

Brett Rabatin

Okay. Well, I appreciate the color..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

All right..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Young with SunTrust. Your line is now open..

Michael Young

Hey, good morning..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, Michael..

Michael Young

Lee, I wanted to ask just about the securities book kind of plans to continue to reinvest there given higher rates and any change in terms of how you may reinvest in terms of your municipal bond interest?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

We've kind of said on the sidelines now for about four months, we've invested a little bit, but for the most part, we've just continued to reduce our home loan bank advances and save the money for loans. If rates reach certain levels, 10-year gets to three or something like that.

We may invest some portion of the proceeds, but I really don't look for the securities book to be a position of significant asset growth at this point in time. We would expect it to remain fairly stable to down through most of the year as loan growth takes over the asset growth and the earning assets..

Michael Young

Okay. And just looking at the loan pipeline kind of as it stands now, we’ve had several years of slower growth in the first half and kind of a pick up in the second half.

Just kind of how you see it today? Do you envision not being the same trend this year? Or are there things that contradict that?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Last year we had our growth in the second and third quarters, so it's really kind of hard to predict.

We do have same anticipated payoffs that are going to occur throughout the year, and it really just depends – some of these are projects that are potentially going to sell and it really just depends when those come to fruition when those paydowns will occur. Other than that, we're anticipating fairly stable fundings throughout the year.

It will really be the impact of the paydowns that will determine when the growth occurs in the various quarters..

Michael Young

One last one maybe if I can, just on capital.

Obviously, lower tax rate, higher capital formation, do you plan to maintain kind of a dividend payout ratio or how are you thinking about the capital priorities from here?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

We've always had a fairly high dividend payout ratio. We're anticipating keeping it close to the same, but maybe reducing it down closer to 45% to 50%. We're not going to reduce the dividend, but as earnings grow maybe gradually reducing the payout..

Michael Young

Okay. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Zabora with Hovde. Your line is now open..

Brian Zabora

Thanks. Good morning..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning.

How are you doing?.

Brian Zabora

Good.

How are you?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Great..

Brian Zabora

All right. Just a question on the margin.

You mentioned the step down with the lower FTE, with the change in tax rate, but just could you give us an update on how the balance sheet looks post Diboll as far as how – if we do get Fed rate hikes, how you might see the impact on the NIM going forward?.

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think the impact on the NIM will be positive after the adjustment for the FTE. And going forward that the Diboll loan portfolio was a little bit shorter than ours and then they have a really – had a really strong core funding base. So I think that's going to do nothing, but improve the prospects for the NIM and the spread going forward..

Brian Zabora

Great. That was my only question. Thank you so much..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. End of Q&A.

Operator

I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. Lee Gibson for any further remarks..

Lee Gibson Chief Executive Officer & Director

All right. Thank you for joining us today.

The anticipated benefits associated with the nearly completed Diboll transaction, cost containment success, near pristine asset quality, dynamic growing markets ripe with quality loan growth potential, our success in replacing securities with higher yielding loans, combined with the tax reform that is effective January 1, 2018, provide a foundation for an excellent start for this year.

Thank you for being on the call today and we look forward to hosting our next earnings call in April..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day..

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