Brett Maas - Managing Partner, Hayden IR Nathan J. Mazurek - Chairman and CEO Andrew Minkow - CFO.
Matt Koranda - ROTH Capital.
Good day and welcome to the Pioneer Power Solution Inc., Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2014 Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time I'd like to turn the conference over to Brett Maas of Hayden IR. Please go ahead sir. .
Thank you and good day and welcome to Pioneer Power's 2014 fourth quarter and full year financial results conference call. The call today will be hosted by Nathan Mazurek, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Andrew Minkow, Chief Financial Officer. Following their discussion there will be a formal Q&A session open to participants on the call.
We appreciate having the opportunity to review the 2014 fourth quarter and full year financial results. Before we get started let me remind you that this call is being broadcast over the Internet and that a recording of the call and the text of management's prepared remarks will be available on the company's website.
During this call management will make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Please refer to the cautionary text regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release issued today, and in the posted version of these prepared remarks, both of which apply to the content of this call. I now turn the call over to Nathan Mazurek, Chairman and CEO.
Nathan?.
Thanks Brett. Good morning and thank you for joining us today for our -- good afternoon thank you for joining us today for our conference call. Three months into 2015 I can report that our confidence in the near term and long-term future for Pioneer has never been stronger.
My confidence is based on the growing backlog, which suggests strong growth for 2015 and beyond as well as an expanding pipeline of opportunities for businesses we acquired in 2013 and early 2014. Taking a step back, the strategy is working.
We have purchased small businesses on favorable terms, augmenting our portfolio of offerings and creating savings through internal sourcing and robust cross selling opportunities. We have invested in those businesses, transitioning them from slow to no growth and nominal profits to accelerating growth and more robust profitability.
Today our recently acquired businesses have sales functions that are delivering improving top line performance and we are now bidding on larger projects and more components of them, resulting in a sales pipeline that is notably stronger both in terms of quality and quantity. I am pleased with this progress.
But during the fourth quarter we identified risks in our internal control over financial reporting which are the result of the rapid expansion of our business through acquisitions combined with the simultaneous efforts to deploy new business information systems and adequately prepare and train our financial and non-financial personnel in its use.
In January as part of our year-end review our team identified $900,000 of additional cost of goods sold that should have been recognized during the first through third quarters of 2014.
Andrew will discuss this in more detail but even while these cost were immaterial to any of those three quarters and did not change our results for the full year the cumulative effect of recognizing these out of period costs in full during our fourth quarter contributed to an unexpected quarterly operating loss.
Needless to say this situation creates a frustrating conclusion to an important year of transition. But we are certain the issues uncovered can be put behind us by initiating quick and decisive actions to strengthen our financial reporting, internal control processes and procedures.
Once we complete these actions to strengthen our financial reporting function at the subsidiary level we will be better equipped to scale efficiently and profitably in the future. In summary, while I am frustrated that this occurred, it does not alter our results for the full year or my outlook for 2015 or beyond.
Our backlog as of December 31, 2014 stood at $36 million, up 48% compared to the backlog as of December 31, 2013 and up 33% compared to the backlog as of the end of our third quarter.
In addition to the growth in size our order backlog is also more diverse than it has ever been before and provides us with higher visibility into our expected revenue over the next several months. The same trend is evident in our order rate.
As a result of this progress we continue to expect that 2015 will be a strong year for us in terms of top and bottom line performance. This is despite exceptionally challenging demand conditions in Canada as a result of decline in oil and the Canadian dollar, affecting more than one-third of our business.
Our growth expectation is made possible by our investments in the last 24 months to elevate our core earnings power through the integration of three acquisitions, the broadening of our addressable market and the expansion of our sales and engineering teams in order to capitalize on the previously unavailable sales opportunities.
I believe the combination of these activities has significantly enhanced Pioneer’s profile for sustainable growth. I will now turn the call over to Andrew Minkow, our CFO to provide some additional color regarding details of our 2014 fourth quarter and full year financial results as well as a review of our 2015 guidance..
For the year we expect revenue between $110 million and $120 million. Now that will be broken down into our new two reporting segments; Transmission and distribution solutions is expected to yield sales of $85 million to $95 million and our Critical Power Solutions segment is expected to deliver sales of $20 million to $25 million.
For the company we expect adjusted EBITDA in the range of $6.5 million and $7.5 million and non-GAAP diluted EPS between $0.45 and $0.55.
Our guidance is based on foreign exchange rate of US$0.78 to 1 Canadian dollar which reflects an unfavorable 14% variance from last year and will affect over one third of our revenues in some of our most profitable product categories.
In addition our below the line assumptions continue to include an effective tax rate of approximately 28% and a share count of approximately $7.4 million. This concludes my remarks and now I will turn the call back over to Nathan. .
Thank you Andrew. Operator I’d now like to open the call for questions. .
[Operator Instructions]. And our first question is Matt Koranda with ROTH Capital..
Hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to start off with the gross margin. So looks like a big portion of the decline in margins year-over-year at least, is from the liquid filled transformers.
So can you just talk about what gross margins were in this segment during the quarter and then just to outlook for 2015? How much of that 8.4% decline can you guys get back on mix and how much of that is kind a loss to FX for the year in 2015?.
Yes, a good amount of it is lost to FX in 2015. And the FX on translation doesn't affect the percentage margin. But what we're facing at is -- what we're facing is buying large components of the raw materials we need in very expensive U.S. dollars out there, and which affects our margin.
So it's going to be a tougher year than in the past in our liquid filled transformers business.
We’re still expecting comparable sales of these in Canadian dollars, but without much going on in the oil patch, where we earn a lot of our big profit margin custom type business, our profit margin on our gross margin is probably good to slip another two or three points from where it was in 2014 on the liquid filled product. .
Okay, all right, and can you remind us again where it was in 2014, that two to three points, what are we slipping from?.
From around 27% in 2014. .
Okay got it. And then it looks like you guys are kind of making some fixes and hiring some more of senior accounting personnel and doing some training activity during 2014 to rectify the internal control stuff.
Can you help us think about sort of quantifying the spend in 2015 associated with that?.
Well it's in our numbers. We've identified a number of actions we need to take. Frankly some of our people are so new, no decisions have been made. But it's the kind of thing where in looking through the plan and budgeting it in we put in a good $0.04 or $0.05 for it.
Is that enough?.
Okay, got it. That’s helpful. And then I mean, in terms of, I know you guys have said that you think that it wasn’t material enough to go back and restate any other stuff from 2014, but as you dig further in, looking back maybe even further, I mean is there any risk here that we see restatements further back than 2014 and 2013 or other periods. .
No, because it really, this is very specific to two divisions, that switched over their ERP systems in 2014. So it shouldn't go back to any prior periods. .
Okay, got it.
And that all of that ERP switches is now done as of the end of Q1, is that right?.
For those divisions but we have more to do. .
Okay.
And when do you think you’ll have the full ERP implemented across all of the subsidiaries, is that something that will be done by the end of this year?.
That's our objective. .
Okay, got it. Okay, and let’s touch on backlog and bookings just for a moment as well.
Since we're done with Q1 pretty much as of today could you just comment on bookings cadence during Q1? How is activity, maybe you could just talk about each segment, so just talk about Critical Power Solutions and T&D solutions and if you could break T&D out between Pioneer and Jefferson, that would be helpful. .
Yeah, Matt, this is Nathan. I’ll start, so the first quarter, the bookings for the largest unit, the Pioneer Transformer was still strong. Although we are budgeting it in the guidance and budgeting for a much reduced year profit wise for them, primarily because the oil and gas patch in Alberta is stone quiet.
Jefferson is ahead of any kind of pace that they set in their history. So they are beginning 2015 at a torrid pace which we expect to continue for the rest of the year.
So they’re way, way ahead, in fact that probably by the end of the year they will be the largest revenue segment that we have, especially given to the translation of the year Canadian dollar, and might go toe to toe with Pioneer Transformer as far as EBITDA earnings.
Bemag, the pace is probably inline exactly with what was going on in 2014, from a revenue point of view. The Canadian economy, but more specifically to us the Canadian construction market is very weak right now, everybody is complaining. But we are looking forward to being no less than stable with last year.
The piece of business, the OA [ph] business which rounds out T&D solution continues to grow at an exceptionally fast rate. Their challenge is not so much their growth but their challenge is to grow with a better mix and to improve their profitability. They can still continue to drag significantly on our earnings for the year.
Critical Power, which is now much larger and much more diverse business than it was, prior for us given the acquisition of Titan, will of course because the acquisitions is the reason for most of the revenue growth, the big revenue growth that we're going to experience in '14 to '15, but I would say that the early indications there are the equipment side of their business is growing at a good to modest pace, which is great over 2014 and the service business is growing at a much quicker pace to that.
And then to break some of the numbers down we put our their $36 million of backlog, where that breaks down is $10 million is Critical Power, $26 million is T&D, Transmission and Distribution. Of that $26 million, since we started with Pioneer Transformers Liquids filled, about 60% of that $26 million is our liquids filled.
About another 20% is Jefferson which is driven in large part by this major new OEM customer, I touched on earlier in the call. It’s a data center driven business and the remainder of our T&D backlog of about $2 million or $3 million, whatever that adds up to really splits evenly between Bemag and our Los Angeles switchgear operation..
Okay, awesome, that’s very helpful color around the backlog and bookings outlook here, so great.
I was wondering in the outlook if you could maybe just touch on the $20 million to $25 million that you have for Critical Power, how much of that would we attribute to Titan for the year and what’s kind of the remainder for the base critical power businesses?.
Yes, I mean in broad strokes about $18 million to $20 million is for Titan, the balance for the business that we bought and have been nurturing since last….
First half of 2013….
Right since April or whatever March or April of 2013 and of Titan’s $18 million to $20 million probably about 7ish is equipment sales and the balance is service..
Okay.
Is that…?.
There is a piece of their business that sort of, I don’t is a hybrid type business. So if you threw that into equipment it’s almost even 10 to 10..
Yes okay, all right, 10 to 10, got it. Okay great. One more from me here, could you -- I mean is there a bit more color you can share on the OEM customer with Jefferson? It sounds like it was kind of a material step up in business for them and it’s related to data center. Could you just give a little more color on sort of….
Sure, I mean yes, 100%.
From the time we bought Jefferson, which was in April of 2010 the push has been to migrate them to move them up the value chain and start doing more in custom magnetic solutions where the value proposition and the margins are higher as opposed to the standard ventilated distribution unit, which is going into primarily commercial construction.
It’s one thing to say it, it’s other thing to do it. And so it’s taken a number of years of effort of investment, of personnel upgrades, of being dogged in certain markets but in 2014, although it really began already in 2013 but in 2014 that shift really begin to manifest itself.
So they did more on the OEM side, as a percentage, was for the first time a super significant percentage of their business than it ever been historically and that’s beginning to pan out. This particular customer is in the vertical, they are in the data center market.
They are manufacturing as -- and they have several competitors some of which Jefferson is serving or is angling to serve as well, especially what we call PDUs power distribution units; specific to the data center market Jefferson is providing them with a particular magnetic solution, a magnetic piece of equipment that’s installed into their equipment.
The markets that they are serving are the big data guys.
This company is a Fortune 500 company which in turn serves the alpha dogs of the data center market which is without discussing which particular customer we are serving in this end, the Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, Google I am probably missing somebody who is going be upset but those are the big monsters of the data center market.
So that’s who they are serving..
So clarify our customer is one of the international major electrical equipment companies who is incorporating our sub assembly into their product and their customers one of the major technology companies that Nathan gave a few examples of..
Right, these projects that they have secured are quite long, although they sort of bill that out to us in multi month segments but these projects are slated to last about five years..
So we have in our guidance one phase of one project instead we and Jefferson is able -- once you are in there it’s easier to get a piece of the next one so long as you don’t do anything wrong..
So I think we will see, as of course the first quarter will unfold, you asked about the first quarter order rate, but for Jefferson in particular the first quarter order rate and in tandem with that their sales rate are things that they have not experienced in their history that I know, I only know 20 years back, before that I can say. .
Okay, no, that's helpful. .
One more thing that this quarter, we have a lot of doom and gloom on the price of the oil and currency. If not for this particular customer relationship we wouldn't be talking about 20% to 30% revenue growth next year. .
Okay, got it, understood. All right I'll jump back in queue guys. Thank you. .
[Operator Instructions]. We'll move on with Michael Epstein [ph] with Northeast Security. .
Good afternoon gentlemen. I'm just a little new to the story, so I apologize. But can we discuss recurring revenue aspects of the company and the quality of the earnings. I'm hearing a lot that the oil patch in Canada is down, but I'm sure it's all over the world. Any other industries that we can serve to make up for that short fall. .
Yes, well of course, thank you Michael. We are always for to do more business and widen our base. It doesn't happen as quickly. The decline in oil was so violent to the down so quickly projects just stopped immediately. So it takes a little while to compensate for that.
So it's not like everything fell out probably, I don't know X percentage of our liquids filled business, probably about 15% of our liquids filled business was dedicated or was serving oil and gas for the last few years. That's a very profitable business for us.
So for that to violently go down and to shut off so quickly takes a little time to make that up but we're trying. .
To your point, Mike and you're correct. We have a very nicely profitable service business, annual contract, two year contracts, three year contracts with some major retailers in the country. And it's a nice stable dependable type of our earnings stream for us. It takes some time to build.
We've brought in a new Head of Sales for national accounts in order to build that business more rapidly. But for 2015 we're trying to keep close to the chest and not expect too much out of it, all in the first year. So the acquisition of Titan is something that we feel has a long time to grow.
So we spent a lot of time in the last two months trying to organize the policies and the procedures of how the company goes to market and how people have incentive to do sales in order to set a base to grow that business much bigger.
But at the moment it's -- Nathan talks about oil and gas, right now the oil and gas is just -- it outweighs that portion of our business. .
Okay.
It looks like you produced some cash, are we expecting at some sort of public offering in 2015 to build the treasury up?.
Yes, I mean Mike I mean, one our cash position is still relatively strong. We still have a lot of untapped borrowing capacity; we still have a lot of the cash sitting in the business overall continues to generate cash. So I don't think we're not really looking for cash right now.
We will of course go to the market when we think that we're in a position of some strength or for some other purpose to raise more equity, to create a wider and more liquid market for our stock.
But the right now the focus on 2015 is to really rebound from the disappointing performance of 2014 and demonstrate that these business units are capable of earning much more money on the shorter and longer term. .
Thank you. I'm looking forward to attend your annual meeting and meet you Nathan and Andrew, so looking forward to that. .
Okay, our pleasure as well. .
Thanks Michael. .
At this time there are no questions in our queue and I'd like to pass things back to management for any closing and additional remarks. .
Okay, thank you all so much for your time and attention. I look forward to updating you again on our next call. .
Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude today's presentation. We appreciate everyone's participation..