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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q4
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Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is JL, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the OncoCyte Fourth Quarter and Year-end 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Ramson, PCG Advisory Inc. You may begin..

Jeff Ramson

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us for today's conference call to discuss OncoCyte's fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results and recent operating highlights. If you have not seen today's financial results press releases, please visit the company's website on the Investors page.

Before turning the call over to Josh Riggs, OncoCyte's President and Chief Executive Officer, I'd like to remind you that during this conference call, the company will make projections and forward-looking statements regarding future events. Any statements that are not historical fact are forward-looking statements.

We encourage you to review the company's SEC filings including, without limitation, the company's Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which identify specific risk factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements.

Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. OncoCyte expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward-looking statements except as otherwise may be required under applicable law. With that, I'll turn the call over to Josh..

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

one used our test and the other didn't. Those that used our tests were able to catch rejection much sooner than those that didn't. Approximately 20% of kidney patients will test positive for DSA within the first 5 years of kidney transplant. Many of them will go on to have rejection and potentially lose their organ.

The data showing using our technology gives an opportunity for earlier intervention. Further, and very important, ABMR is notoriously hard to treat. But certain new drugs are in trials to treat DSA-positive ABMR. Assuming positive outcome of these trials, an early diagnosis will become truly crucial.

We are watching these Phase II studies very closely as we believe that they have the opportunity to change the outcomes for the many patients that experience ABMR. And our technology has the potential to be the front-end diagnostic to find these patients in time to make a difference.

For DetermaCNI, we are waiting on the publication of pancreatic data presented at AACR earlier in 2023 to submit to MolDX under LCD-38835. This is the same LCD that multiple companies have received coverage under in the past several months. Reimbursement for these types of assays has reached into the 1,000s per episode of care.

For DetermaIO, we continue to make progress processing samples from the 800-plus patient TNBC study being ran by the Southwest Oncology Group funded by the NIH. Success in this study would represent an opportunity to support the treatment decision post surgery for these patients by identifying those most likely to benefit from immunotherapy.

On our financials. Q4 benefited from the cost reductions we did in the first 3 quarters of the year. Cash reserves declined $4.4 million in the quarter, leaving $9.4 million on the balance sheet. This is a 58% improvement in cash burn year-over-year.

Our consolidated revenues for the fourth quarter of 2023 were approximately $300,000 and the cost of revenues for the fourth quarter were approximately $400,000, primarily from services and customers.

Research and development expense from the fourth quarter increased 85% year-over-year from $1.4 million to $2.5 million, driven by our strategic pivot to focus our investment on developing the manufacturable version of our assay.

General and administrative expense for the fourth quarter decreased 66% year-over-year from $5.1 million to $1.8 million, reflecting our successful efforts to reduce spending not directly related to product development and commercial activities.

Sales and marketing expense for the fourth quarter increased 74% year-over-year from $300,000 to $600,000 where we focused our sales and marketing investments on our early access program and early market access work for the RUO product.

GAAP net loss from continuing operations of $16 million or $1.99 per share as compared to a net loss of $12 million or $2.08 per share for the fourth quarter of 2022. Non-GAAP operating loss as adjusted for the fourth quarter was $4.2 million, an increase of $1.2 million compared to the same period in 2022.

We have provided a reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP operating losses in the financial tables included with our earnings release, which is also available at our website at oncocyte.com. We have reflected the operations of Razor as discontinued operations for all periods presented in our financial statements.

In my closing remarks, I'd like to talk a little bit about why the partnership came together. It has exactly what you would expect. It has a good product, an established commercial channel and robust demand. But what makes it special and what makes it work is the timing.

What we see and ultimately what we think led Bio-Rad to invest is the chance to take the lead in an opportunity that only comes along once in any given clinical market, where it shifts from one that's centralized to one that's local.

It only makes sense that transplant centers would rather have an answer in a day instead of waiting up to a week for results from a lab in another state. And if you add to that a reimbursement rate in the thousands for an easy-to-use PCR test, you start to build a pretty compelling business case.

It happened in HIV testing, respiratory testing, eGFR, among others, and it's about to happen in transplant. And again, it's something that only happens once. After local labs have access to testing, it never goes back to being centralized.

Over the next 2 years, we are going to see this transition take place and believe that we have the right partnership and the right product to position OncoCyte as a leader in that transition. That will mean more research, more patients being tested and hopefully better outcomes.

Our appreciation goes out to the Bio-Rad team and our current and new shareholders who have joined us in supporting this vision. Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Mike Matson of Needham..

Mike Matson

I guess just a few on the Bio-Rad agreement. So can you tell us what their installed base is U.S.

and o-US, if possible, for the machines that could run this test?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

They don't publicly disclose their installed base..

Mike Matson

Okay. No, that's fine. And then just to be clear and make sure I understand how this is going to work. So initially, you'll be working with them. There'll be a research use-only version of the test.

You'll try to build up some initial customers using that test, and then eventually you'll have FDA-cleared and EU-cleared versions of the kitted test to have them sell for their testing systems..

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, that's correct, Mike. And so we're excited by it. There's a really nice overlap between the life science side of Bio-Rad that's calling on the academic centers where the research is being done today and our call point, which happens to be academic centers who have the talented surgeons that can actually perform the transplant surgeries.

So there was a really nice overlap and call point that made this make a lot of sense..

Mike Matson

Okay. Got it. All right.

And then is there any kind of minimum volume commitments or anything like that put in the agreement?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

There are not..

Mike Matson

Okay. All right. And then are you going to continue to offer the transplant test in the U.S.

as a lab result test or CLIA way of testing in your own facility? Or is it kind of fully transitioned over to being kitted?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We will absolutely maintain our service lab in Nashville. It's a wonderful vehicle for us to do clinical development work. It's through that lab that we're able to engage with MolDX to do the claims expansion work, like we're doing with the DSA-positive patients.

It also gives us a path through the FDA so we can take our single site -- or our lab through the single site process and establish a predicate device that we can then use to bridge clinical claims over to our kitted product.

And we believe that's a really efficient path through the FDA, and look forward to being able to bridge those two things together in the future..

Mike Matson

Okay. And then finally, what should we expect for the pricing on the kitted test once you fully transition over to a cleared version of the product? I don't know if you're willing to disclose that --.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, I mean, I can tell you how the math usually works. So depending on whatever the reimbursed value is for the test, and so that's whatever your customer can bill to the payers, you're usually capped at about 50% of the reimbursed value for the top end of your pricing.

And so if you have a kit that has a national price of $1,500, then the limit you can really charge to generate the result is about $750. If it's $2,000, it's $1,000. If it's $1,000, it's $500. And that's just kind of the way the math works and that's the general expectation in the industry.

And until we have the national price for the kit, it's really tough to say exactly where we would set the price..

Mike Matson

Okay.

But then you would -- I assume you'd be sharing a portion of that pricing with Bio-Rad?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

That's correct..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mason Carrico of Stephens..

Mason Carrico

Can you guys hear me all right?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, Mason..

Mason Carrico

So if you don't mind, maybe just a few quick ones here.

Could you provide just a bit more detail on kind of how the commercial strategy with Bio-Rad is going to work going forward? I mean, given you're the commercial lead, what type of team do you have in place today or presence do you have? What type of incremental investments need to be made here?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks. Yes, we're expecting to add incremental about 5 headcount, so 4 in the U.S. on top of our small team today and then 1 in Germany. And that goes against the Bio-Rad marketing machine that's already in place in the U.S. and Germany.

And so we will -- if you think of them as kind of filling the funnel, and then we're at the bottom end of the funnel closing the accounts is generally how the relationship will work. Outside of those 2 territories. Bio-Rad has the full commercial and distribution lead on that, and so we will bear no incremental cost there..

Mason Carrico

Got it. Okay.

And could you talk a bit about revenue expectations going forward as well as the cash burn outlook?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure. So it is an RUO product and so it takes time for a lab to bring it up, validate it and get it running. And so we expect that the day 1 sites will start converting into revenue customers in Q4, and then the revenue will start to build from there.

And so we'll see a little bit of revenue in Q4, more in Q1 and so on and so forth through Q2 next year. The cash burn, we've committed to maintaining a low cash burn. We'll take up a bit here in Q2 with just some manufacturing expense and onetime expense.

But I think you can expect to see us try to maintain that below $5 million on a quarterly burn basis average..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bruce Jackson of The Benchmark Company..

Bruce Jackson

So getting into the mechanics of how this works with Bio-Rad, and we'll start with the easier scenario with the international markets that are not Germany.

So if they sell a test, then how does that get booked to you? Is it going to come in on the income statement as like a license fee? Or that hits either the operating expenses or the nonoperating expenses? Tell me how the mechanics of the -- just one piece of it are going to work..

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

No, good question. It's a manufacturing and supply agreement. So it comes off the end of the manufacturing line and then Bio-Rad is our customer. And so it hits the top line and then you'll see a normal COGS-type calculation..

Bruce Jackson

Okay. And then with the United States in particular, so you've got the lab version of the test as well. So are they going to be like sort of two revenue streams here? So there's going to be the lab revenue and then there's also the RUO kit revenue.

So does the -- tell me how that piece of it is going to flow?.

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. I mean, they'll both show up on the top line. One will just show up as services and one will show up as products. I don't know if that answers your question, Bruce..

Bruce Jackson

It does, it does. And then last question is on the incremental sales and marketing spend. So is there going to be any shift in just the $5 million burn rate per quarter -- I'm sorry, less than $5 million burn rate per quarter from R&D to sales and marketing? Or is it -- just maybe a little color on the operating expense mix would be helpful..

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, sure. I think we are planning on adding about 5 headcount to our sales and marketing team to support this over the next quarter. And so that will tick up that a little bit. And then we will try to maintain as well as we can that below $5 million quarterly burn.

Again, we are going to tick up here in Q2 with just onetime manufacturing expense, obviously some deal costs, but we'll go right back to that low burn..

Bruce Jackson

All right. That's it for me. Congratulations on the agreement..

Josh Riggs President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. Appreciate it..

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. That concludes our Q&A session. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect..

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