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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q4
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Executives

Chris Tyson - Managing Director, MZ North America Francois Michelon - Chief Executive Officer David Wells - Chief Financial Officer Michael Thornton - Chief Technology Officer.

Analysts

Dallas Salazar - Atlas Consulting.

Operator

Good day. And welcome to the ENDRA Life Sciences' Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Conference Call and Webcast. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Chris Tyson, Managing Director of MZ North America, ENDRA Life Sciences' Investor Relations firm. Sir, please go ahead. .

Chris Tyson

Good afternoon. I'd like thank you all for taking time to join us for ENDRA Life Sciences' fourth quarter and full year 2017 conference call. Your hosts today are Mr. Francois Michelon, Chief Executive Officer; as well as Mr. David Wells, the company's Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Michael Thornton, the company's Chief Technology Officer.

Francois and Michael will provide a business update which will cover partner announcements, product updates and operational milestones, while David will discuss the financial results. A press release detailing these results is across the wires today and is available on the company's website endrainc.com.

Following management's prepared comments, we will open the floor to questions for those of you who are dialing in for today's call. Before we begin the formal presentation, please take note of the Safe Harbor paragraph that appears at the end of the press release covering the company's financial results.

And that any forward-looking statements that we make only apply as of the date made and are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties including those described in the company's SEC filings and should not be unduly relied upon.

Except as otherwise required by the federal securities laws, the company disclaims any obligation or undertaking to publicly release any updates or revisions to any forward-looking statements. We also would refer you to the company's website for more supporting industry information. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to Francois Michelon.

Francois, the floor is yours..

Francois Michelon

Building the ENDRA team, executing our operating plan, growing and protecting our intellectual property, adhering to an asset-light business model, leveraging partnerships to minimize overhead and preserve cash, expanding our investor awareness initiatives and starting to rebuild our photoacoustic laboratory research business.

We believe progress in these key areas position ENDRA for healthy growth in the quarters to come. Now, let’s take a little deeper dive into each of these areas.

In terms of building the team, we have made several notable additions to our engineering team in particular in 2017, including an intellectual property specialist to support our internal organic patent development, an engineering leader to lead product development and several specialized engineers for radio frequency applications.

This has expanded our talented team from seven to 13 employees, plus contractors in 2017, complemented by our engineering and human study partners at GE, StarFish Medical and CriTech Research and CIMTEC. With respect to executing our operating plan, we are happy to have met all our 2017 milestones outlined in the TAEUS liver roadmap.

First on the pre-commercialization front, in 2017, we formalized our relationship with the Centre for Imaging Technology Commercialization, also known as CIMTEC, to yield human studies for our TAEUS clinical product, targeting NAFLD in the second quarter of this year.

These human studies with CIMTEC involve both conventional ultrasound and ENDRA’s TAEUS imaging along with MRI. Our objective is to obtain important insight into the clinical workflow and quantitative methodologies of ENDRA’s TAEUS product.

We look forward to completing our first human study in the second quarter and Michael Thornton will be giving you a few more details on this during this call.

To support ENDRA’s human studies and commercialization plans, in the fourth quarter of 2017, we also partnered with StarFish Medical and CriTech Research, to advance the development of the hardware and the software elements of the TAEUS liver product.

StarFish Medical is Canada’s largest medical device development and contract manufacturing firm, while CriTech Research based in the Ann Arbor area is an industry leader in medical device software development. This diversified, two-pronged productization approach allows ENDRA to leverage each partner’s respective areas of expertise.

Naturally beyond these fee-based service relationships and a strong strategic partnership with GE Healthcare, ENDRA is also involved in several discussions with other potential and complementary strategic partners regarding the development and commercialization of ENDRA's technologies.

Naturally, these discussions take time but we’re excited about the level of interest expressed so far.

In terms of cash management, in addition to the engineering and human study partnerships I just mentioned, which help us control overhead, David Wells, our CFO has done a great job of implementing financial controls to help us understand and manage our spending.

For example, in 2017, we modernized our payroll and expense systems to cloud-based platforms. I'd also like to remind everyone that ENDRA currently has a very clean cap table with no debt. Another area of focus in 2017 was the gradual rebuilding of our global preclinical imaging business.

I’ll remind our listeners that since 2010, ENDRA has built a global installed base of customers including Stanford and the University of Michigan who use our Nexus 128 system to study diseases like cancer. To preserve cash in 2016 and 2017, as we worked towards ENDRA’s IPO, we’ve put this business essentially on hold.

Since the IPO, we've been rebuilding the sales pipeline in this long cycle segment and we have several good prospects for 2018. In the third quarter of last year, we presented a new photo -- a new photoacoustic imaging research paper at the World Molecular Imaging Congress in Philadelphia.

And in Q4, we delivered and installed a Nexus 128 pre-clinical imaging system in Korea at the Kyungpook National University in Daegu. Scientists at Kyungpook are using ENDRA’s photoacoustic technology in applications to conduct cancer research.

In 2018, ENDRA will be showing our Nexus 128 system at key industry meetings including the American Association of Cancer Research and the World Molecular Imaging Congress. Finally, in terms of key areas of focus, we focus on raising investor awareness.

Working with our partners at MZ Group, we executed a weekly cadence of communication including buy and sell side meetings, investor conference presentations and press releases to make the world aware of what we were doing.

In 2017, we attended and presented at six investor conferences and two industry conferences in New York, California, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Florida.

We also in Q1 of this year launched a completely new corporate website endrainc.com, which provides multiple audiences, deeper information on ENDRA’s clinical and laboratory technologies in a much easier navigation design.

I’ll now turn the call over to our Chief Technology Officer, Michael Thornton who’ll provide a deeper update on our IP portfolio, our engineering and our human study partners for our TAEUS clinical product targeting fatty liver disease.

Michael?.

Michael Thornton Chief Technology Officer

Thank you, Francois. During the full year 2017, we strengthened ENDRA’s total intellectual property assets to 33 patents and patent applications that are in preparation filed, issued or licensed, up from 24 at the beginning of 2017. Since our IPO, we have filed four new patents and received Notice of Allowance for two patents.

Over the past several months, ENDRA has focused on protecting key enabling methodologies and technical innovations related to our TAEUS fatty liver application. We are preparing additional filings related to our first product. IP is a core strategic area of focus for ENDRA Life Sciences.

We have dedicated personnel and work with an established network of patent law firms that will ensure that our innovations and products are protected in the global markets that we're targeting for our technologies.

We are also expanding our patent portfolio in the first quarter of 2018, and we were recently granted two US patents for non-invasive fat assessment to support TAEUS clinical product targeting Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. These are the first US patents issued to ENDRA for non-invasive fat assessment.

And we expect to receive additional patents to protect our thermoacoustic intellectual property and directly support our plans to commercialize a transformative clinical application in the second half of 2017 focused on Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease.

NAFLD can progress through non-alcoholic steatohepatitis, also known as NASH, fibrosis, cirrhosis and potentially cancer and it is largely driven by obesity, diabetes and hepatitis, our first applications for the assessment and surveillance of NAFLD in its earlier stages when it is reversible.

As of today ENDRA’s support IP portfolio totals 39 patents and patent applications that are in preparation to be filed, issued or licensed, encompassing a range of devices and methods focused IP in targeted global markets. Now, moving on to the key milestones achieved on the development front in the fourth quarter of 2017.

ENDRA is contracting, engineering, manufacturing and regulatory activities to establish medical device service providers which we believe is the most capital efficient and shortest time to market approach to bring new medical technologies to market.

In the fourth quarter of 2017, we announced our partnership with StarFish Medical, Canada's largest medical device development and contract manufacturing company and CriTech Research Inc., a Michigan-based firm specializing in medical device software development to commence productization of ENDRA's TAEUS device targeting Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease.

StarFish and CriTech provide product engineering services that are necessary to translate the company's current prototype TAEUS device into a clinical product meeting CE regulatory requirements for commercial launch in the European Union targeted for the second half of 2018, followed by a planned FDA submission for the US market.

The commercial development program with StarFish was managed internally by Scott Belanger, who has 30 years engineering experience with SRI, IBM and Lockheed. Scott's engineering team provides technical guidance to our service providers, while also maintaining oversight for program milestones, delivery dates and budget.

We deployed a parallel productization approach to pursue the quickest path to commercialization leveraging each partner's respected expertise in hardware and software. Our partners’ successful track records of bringing CE and FDA cleared medical technology to market is aligned with ENDRA's agile business model.

StarFish and CriTech offer strong and complementary core competencies enabling ENDRA to execute its operating plan while managing development risk. In November of 2017, we announced our partnership with CIMTEC, a contract research organization based in Ontario, Canada to perform the first in-human studies with our fatty liver imaging technology.

CIMTEC is associated with the Robarts Research Institute, a globally recognized research center for advanced imaging technologies. In addition to TAEUS, the studies will involve conventional ultrasound, MRI and potentially blood diagnostic tests that are routinely used in fatty liver disease clinical work.

The principal aims for this first in-human study which will be completed in Q2 of this year are to better understand the work -- clinical workflow, patient comfort and to establish clinical data for ENDRA's quantitative TAEUS methodologies.

The contract with CIMTEC is a key milestone in ENDRA's TAEUS commercialization roadmap and is one of several planned commercial and academic collaborations that will advance ENDRA's TAEUS technology in the area of liver disease.

ENDRA’s operating model and culture are built on capital efficiency and execution speed, working with the high quality CRO like CIMTEC supports ENDRA’s plan to introduce a commercial liver products supported by human studies in 2018.

The recent progress made with leading medical device developers and the kick-off of human studies program, positions ENDRA for commercialization of our TAEUS fatty liver product in Europe in the second half of 2018.

We believe we have the technical infrastructure and a great strategic partner in GE Healthcare to support the rollout, once we receive our CE Mark in Europe. I’ll now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, David Wells, for his financial summary. .

David Wells

Thank you, Michael. I’ll now provide a summary of our reported fourth quarter and fully year 2017 financial results. Our revenue for the year ended December 31, 2017 totaled approximately $350,000, compared to approximately $515,000 for the year ended December 31, 2016.

Revenue earned in 2017 was the result of the sale of one of our Nexus 128 units, as well from service fees on the base of existing installed Nexus 128 systems. In 2016, we sold two Nexus 128 systems and had revenues from service fees as well, which accounts for the decline in revenue in 2017 over 2016.

Our gross margin was 51% for the year ended December 31, 2017 as compared to 54% for the same period in 2016. The slight decline was due to the mix of revenue between Nexus 128 unit sales and service fees. Operating expenses increased to $4.8 million for the fiscal year 2017, from $2.1 million for the same period in 2016.

The increase in operating expenses in 2017 as compared to 2016 was primarily due to higher research and development expenses and general and administrative expenses which included an increase in headcount, as well as one-time advisory and accounting fees, related to our initial public offering.

Operating expenses for the year ended December 31, 2017 also included approximately $1 million in non-cash charges, related to the issuance of equity for compensation and services and approximately $710,000 in non-cash interest costs associated with convertible notes which were converted into common stock at the time of our IPO.

Our net loss for the year ended December 31, 2017 was $5.4 million or a $1.95 per basic and diluted share as compared to a net loss of $2.8 million for the year ended December 31, 2016. Our cash as of December 31, 2017 totaled $5.6 million as compared to approximately $145,000 as of December 31, 2016.

We had no long-term debt outstanding at December 31, 2017. The increase in our cash as of December 31, 2017 compared to 2016, is a result of the net proceeds of $8.6 million from our initial public offering in May 2017.

For the year ended December 31, 2017, we used approximately $3.3 million in cash from operations and using roughly $1.4 million of the number in cash during the fourth quarter of 2017. This expected rise is due to the development of our TAEUS product discussed earlier on this call.

We believe we have the necessary funds to support a commercialized product in the second half of 2018.

In summary, we believe the combination of our asset-light operating model, clean capitalization structure and continued effective and efficient use of cash will position ENDRA to commercialize our TAEUS liver product in the European Union as scheduled. I'll now turn the call back over to Francois.

Francois?.

Francois Michelon

First, artificial intelligence is getting more accurate and cheaper. Today, AI supports radiologists to interpret patient scans. But it's not hard to imagine a future where AI does most of the heavy lifting in reviewing patient images.

The second element affecting traditional radiology is that point-of-care ultrasound is growing rapidly in emergency room and critical care settings. Emergency room doctors are using inexpensive and more powerful mobile ultrasounds to evaluate and take immediate actions for things like deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolisms.

These frontline doctors perform and interpret diagnostic images at the patient bedside and use the information immediately to guide therapy rather than sending the images for interpretation back to the dark room of the radiologist or the cardiologist. So radiologists know they have to change.

It can't simply consult to frontline physicians from a dark room reading images, the way they have for the last few decades. They have to do more hands-on stuff.

And ENDRA’s technology provides one of these hands-on opportunities by enhancing the estimated 300,000 existing global cart-based ultrasounds used heavily by radiologists enabling them for the first time to diagnose, in our case, early stage fatty liver disease.

I think that's very exciting for all involved clinicians, patients as well as ENDRA's investors. So ramping up, ENDRA's 2018 is off to an exciting start as evidenced by the early renewal of our collaboration with GE Healthcare, which we also extended by 21 months to January 2020.

Under the terms of the agreement, GE continues to support ENDRA's efforts to bring the TAEUS liver technology to market by amongst other things providing equipment and technical advice, facilitating introductions to GE ultrasound customers.

And in return for that assistance, ENDRA will afford GE’s certain right of first offer with respect to manufacturing and licensing for this liver application.

As we leverage our foundation setting for 2017 and conclude the first quarter of 2018, ENDRA is very well positioned to drive shareholder value and achieve key milestones for the fatty liver application, including as we've touched on through this call, our first human data in the second quarter of 2018, the CE Mark in Europe anticipated in the third quarter of 2018 and the commercial launch of the TAEUS liver device in Europe in the second half of 2018.

At this time, I'd like to open up the call for a few questions from our listeners.

Operator?.

Operator

We will now be conducting a question-and-answer-session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question come from Dallas Salazar, Atlas Consulting. Please proceed with your questions. .

Dallas Salazar

Hi, can you guys hear me okay?.

Francois Michelon

Yeah, thanks. Hi, Dallas..

Dallas Salazar

Hi, Francois. Good quarter right around out the year on a strong note.

I just -- you guys have sort of set the table where if you talk about something that is going to be some sort of mid-term expectation that is coming to fruition or it being a real value driver, whether intrinsic or not for the shareholders, right? Your comments with respect to AI, there is kind of round out the call, where a little -- to me again just given your overall track record it was a little off-centered.

So can you provide some color around that? For instance, who the thought leaders that maybe you're echoing their sentiment or their lead in the space? And then just the conversation that you're hearing, can you give some background as to just AI in general and how that sort of came to be on this call?.

Francois Michelon

Yes, sure. Well, I hope that in fact they complement the much more detailed operating details that we've been focused on Salazar. Because while we've been focused on the accomplishments of ENDRA, I always think it's important to keep a good eye on the strategic context of what we're trying to do.

And that's really why I wanted to close in part with those trends. Those trends are not completely new, they in fact as we started digitizing images when I worked at GE and we were moving from film-based to digital based imaging that had already begun.

But I think I’d love to get Michael Thornton’s input here in terms of the data feed and the appetite of AI and how beyond the workflow and the implications to radiology, how our product I think naturally ducktails into the data needs of AI. Mike, if you wouldn’t mind expanding on that for Dallas’ benefit, that’ll be great. .

Michael Thornton Chief Technology Officer

Sure. Thanks, Francois. And good to talk to you Dallas. Radiology has historically been at the leading edge of technology development. Some of the innovations in MRI and electronics for all the technologies that you see today in radiology departments around the country have really been leading edge and pushing technology limit.

But the practice of radiology presenting an image and having it interpret by a radiologist initiating the report really hasn’t changed in a few decades. Obviously, the acceleration of computing and deep learning systems is having an impact in all our lives in just about every aspect and radiology is not immune to us.

The overwhelming amount of data that’s coming in now from publications, research genetics, proteomics, blood diagnostic tests that weren’t available even five or 10 years ago, is quickly going to overwhelm radiologists and necessity them to have expertise in all these areas that they’ve never had to train in before.

Our information that we’re going to add to existing ultrasound, such as measurements of -- or assessment of fat in liver and other indices of liver health are just one of the inputs to what will be deep learning networks that will become part of AI in radiology.

I think the whole industry if you are reading any of the trade magazines or journals, this is really an accelerating field. I know I am going to the American Institute for Ultrasound and Medicine Meeting later this week and there are multiple talks talking about using AI, deep learning network.

So, I look at our additive product to existing ultrasound as just being one of those inputs that’s going to drive the need and establishment of AI in radiology. I hope that answers your question. .

Dallas Salazar

No, it does, and fortunately I think it opens Pandora’s Box. You guys are sort of getting into my universe now when it comes to data and kind of monetizing that stream. So I just -- I don’t want you to put in a tough spot and kind of press you on it.

But with the partnership with GE, backed you here in the diagnosis corner, if you will, of the map, and you’ve got just this massive total market from a warm body standpoint potentially in the fatty liver segment, how do you monetize this, where does -- what progress should we be looking for, where is this conversation state wise with potentially talks with GE? Obviously they have got a large one assumes data depot.

So -- and then regulatory-wide, what hurdles are there towards monetization if that’s something you are thinking about? And I will jump back in the queue. .

Francois Michelon

No, that’s fine Dallas. And you know Mike just before maybe you speak specifically then to AI, if you have other thoughts.

I would remind our investors that TAEUS and ENDRA’s technology is a platform, we have been able to decode the various qualities of tissue and working to complement ultrasound render clinically value-added information as we are doing when we asses fat in the liver.

But that's really just our first application and we have others that you can see in our investor presentation focused for example on seeing tissue temperature change in real-time during energy based surgical procedures for ablation of tumors, for atrial fibrillation and other applications.

So this platform of ENDRA’s is much bigger in longer term and much more scalable than just the liver. The liver in and of itself is, you've heard me say before, I believe is big enough for ENDRA to build its whole business arm. But it's still encouraging and exciting to think of the other applications.

So in terms of monetizing beyond the liver, certainly we've talked about the -- one of the goals of ENDRA to license this technology for inclusion into new systems. We've also mentioned that there are certainly some ideas and engineering pipeline concepts that are being looked at for disposables.

ENDRA’s technology is software driven, but there is a hardware element obviously as we deploy it into the installed base.

And I have to be honest with you, in my 20 years of executing as a commercial leader in healthcare, it's critical, Dallas, that we remain focused on executing a strong and simple liver product this year, get into the hands of clinicians, start generating revenue and knock the ball out of the park.

I don't want to get too distracted by shiny lights to the left, to the right regarding AI or other things. I think the best way to grow this business and deliver shareholder value is to do a great job on the liver, repeat and scale thereafter. So I hope that's helpful.

I think there's a lot of stuff that we could leverage and look to, but for now we're being extremely disciplined from an operations perspective to make sure this one product is very successful.

Mike, any other thoughts maybe before we wrap up?.

Michael Thornton Chief Technology Officer

Yes. No, just that’s great, Francois. I just wanted to add that we’re really new to the game and in fact the whole idea of collecting patient data who owns it, patient rights, I mean this is an evolving space and we're watching it very carefully.

We’ve recognized that an ultrasound system which is the base platform that our technology attaches to, is a wirelessly connected system to patient data records.

It’s a portal for collecting additional data and we know that’s a key piece of the puzzle to deep learning networks and we see that as part of our future roadmap, but it's evolving and we're watching very closely and would love to participate..

Operator

As a reminder, we are now conducting a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from [Bill Morrison] from National Securities. Please proceed with your question..

Francois Michelon

Hi, Bill. Thanks for joining the call..

Unidentified Analyst

Yes, thanks for answering my questions. I have a couple.

Looking at the CE Mark and the pathway to commercial revenues, what kind of ramp are we looking in the training and how long does it take before you get fully ramped and productive sales and after you get the CE Mark till you’re generating revenues in Europe?.

Francois Michelon

Yes, no, I think that's a great question. I'll let Mike speak a little more if he'd like to the CE regulatory status. But our approach is as I touched on through our investor presentations is really to get that CE Mark in Q3 in parallel to laying the groundwork with GE.

Those discussions with GE in terms of who are we targeting? How do we position this offering? What systems does it work best with? Have started in late 2017.

And in fact, we're going next month to the EASL, the European Association for Study of Liver Meeting in Paris in April to meet with some of those early adopters and also continue the discussions on the ground with GE. Our goal, Bill, is really to get this first generation product into the hands of early adopters.

That I think you may remember from my last call I qualified as their GE ultrasound customers they’re focused on the liver, the abdomen. They have an early adopter profile meaning that they are eager to try new technology and help us with fine it and finally that they publish. I’ve built my markets that the way historically.

You get it into the hands of key opinion leaders and influencers and you build concentric circles around that. So 2018 will be a commercial product but I also want to manage expectations that this is not going to be for sale on eBay and we're going to be selling thousands of these overnight.

This is about building the market with GE's help going in to a GE customer with the GE sales rep along with the small ENDRA commercial team.

Our thinking is three to four specialists on the ground in Europe that can help train the GE reps, can help support and co-sale to customers, and then make sure that the customers who are using the product are happy in using it correctly.

But it's this hybrid approach complementing GE and making sure that we're leveraging their co-points and relationships to build the market. Certainly 2019 would be a lot more I would say traditional ramp-up in terms of volume. But I want to get it right, if we just launch this and hope they come, that's never been successful for me.

We need to get it into these hands of these early adopters, have people say well, Dr. Smith at the -- this top institution in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, is using this ENDRA product, he's getting great results, I want to learn more and that's how I build markets.

Is that helpful, Bill?.

Unidentified Analyst

Yes. So I would imagine that the three or four specialists are already up the curve and maybe few of the GE people are up the curve. So how many….

Francois Michelon

Yes so the product. I'm sorry go ahead. .

Unidentified Analyst

How many people in total do you think, once you ramped up in Europe on the sales front or need to be trained and certified on the product?.

Francois Michelon

Well, one, I'm not at liberty to kind of discuss the number of headcount that GE has. But you can imagine it will be no doubt in 100 or more that are focused in the areas that we want to attack. But that list of customers that I mentioned, Bill, is already well built and we're meeting with some of those people next month in Paris.

Train the trainer, which is the model that I've always used is an important one, where we train the sales force initially, how to use the product and then we go out and we continue to co-demonstrate with them. I would also I would also emphasize Bill that, this product is not much of a deviation from the current workflow.

So there is not that much to learn, which is an important factor in terms of adoption from the existing clinical ultrasound workflow.

Michael, could you jump in and maybe give us a little bit of a sense of how that workflow works and how it will facilitate adoption?.

Michael Thornton Chief Technology Officer

Yes, initially, we’re going to use advanced application specialist and downstream marketing support to actually go side-by-side with our distributors and distribution partners into the user site to actually provide training and ensure that they are using the equipment properly and getting the highest quality data.

Overtime in keeping with the ultrasound training model that has evolved, it will largely be directed by training videos and lunch and learn sessions where you have group sessions and to actually introduce our technology.

So, we are initially going to go with the traditional go right into the customers’ site and provide training and then eventually transition to the more modern just deploy devices and remote training support overtime. .

Unidentified Analyst

It sounds great.

Also, are there any country specific marketing approvals or anything there that you need to do? And if here the CE Mark works for the product, Europe would?.

Francois Michelon

So without getting into the deep nitty-gritty of European law and so on, there’s the CE Mark process involves using a notifying body, that’s somebody who authorized to review all of our technical file information and essentially grant the CE Mark. And then the content authority in each country actually provides the authorization to distribute.

That’s largely per country but I don’t want to go through every country, but yes the European Union sort of how homogenizes the process, so that you do it once and then have the ability to go into each country. .

Unidentified Analyst

Very good, that’s great. That’s very helpful.

Also on the AI front, I would imagine that you’re talking having APIs into your system or publishing APIs to big data platforms, correct? That’s what you’re talking about doing that in the next year or two anyway?.

Francois Michelon

Well I think, well I was just going to clarify that we look at our device as an accessory to ultrasound as being one of those data collection points that’s going to increase the volume of data and burden on radiologists that will feed into deep learning networks.

How we directly connect to them, how our data interfaces to them is something that’s largely not metrical yet but it’s clear that we’re just going to pile on more data on to it already, overburden radiologists with so much inputs starting with the symptoms, the referral and now all these other measurements that are quickly becoming overwhelming.

So I think we recognize that we’re one of the sources of the mass amount of data and the data that we are providing is essentially a biochemical blood pressure cuff, it’s a metabolic measure of health. So it’s going to be very important and affects a huge portion of the population.

So it's something we're going to have to think about as these deep learning networks become established..

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. My last question. So the AI aspect of the product and just the AI environment, is this like a key box that you’ve checked in order to enter these new adopters to penetrate ….

Francois Michelon

No. I think -- no that's a great question and if I could clarify. I think what I was trying to say, Bill, is one of the key clinical segments that we're targeting commercially is radiology in addition to internal medicine, in addition to hepatology. But I was saying that the market and the practice of radiology is changing in the way I described it.

And I think that benefits the hands-on nature of what we're presenting, meaning, we're not just presenting another simple image, if you remember as we described a product we're going to have a clip on device similar to a biopsy guide for ultrasound, that's going to require a radiologist in Europe to do something.

It’s going to require that professional skill and we think that that bodes very well for the adoption from radiology, based on AI's impact to just reading burred images in this point-of-care ultrasound that's becoming more and more independent.

So I hope I haven't opened a can of worms, I found the topic to be very interesting and very supportive of our type of product.

It does open and I'm trying laughing at myself for now entertaining a host of different questions from you and Dallas, but it's exciting and I think it supports the kind of technology that ENDRA is bringing to market as it relates to radiology being very eager for this kind of continued value add from that specialty.

Is that helpful?.

Unidentified Analyst

Yes. It’s very helpful. I comprehend that it’s kind of exciting and sounds like your platform is somewhat of an enabler for AI in healthcare which would be great. So those are all my questions. I appreciate it. Thanks..

Francois Michelon

Thank you very much, Bill..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Francois Michelon for closing remarks..

Francois Michelon

Well, thanks very much. Really what I want to say is thanks most of all to our team, all the people on our team, our engineers, scientists, patent specialists, clinical advisors who keep our photo and thermo-acoustic technologies evolving. A sincere thanks to you and our investors. Certainly we could not have gotten this far without us.

And lastly if we weren't able to address some of your questions on the phone, please reach out to either Chris Tyson at MZ Group or myself directly and we'd be very happy to follow-up individually with you. Until then, we look forward to speaking with you on our upcoming Q1 2018 financial results call and wish you all a very good evening.

Thank you again.

Operator?.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation..

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