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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2020 - Q3
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Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the NBT Bancorp Third Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with the SEC's regulation FD. Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the company's website at nbtbancorp.com.

Before the call begins NBT's management would like to remind listeners that as noted on slide two, today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements as defined by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Actual results may differ from those projected. In addition, certain non-GAAP measures will be discussed.

Reconciliations for these numbers are contained within the appendix of today's presentation. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to NBT Bancorp President and CEO; John H. Watt, Jr. for his opening remarks. Mr. Watt, please begin. .

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Welcome and thank you for joining us today for the NBT third quarter earnings call. Our Chief Financial Officer, John Moran; and our Chief Credit and Risk Officer, Amy Wiles will join me in reviewing highlights with you and then we will take your questions. As I stated in our last quarter call, NBT is focused on the long term.

It is in our DNA to prosper and grow in times of disruption. That was the case during the financial crisis and it will be the case now.

While focusing on the health and safety of our employees, customers and the communities we serve, we are executing on our plans to expand in New England and acquiring new customers in each of the states where we do business there. Well, 2020 has required us all to pivot in response to impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic.

I'm also proud to share that NBT has maintained momentum on key customer-focused technology initiatives, despite this very challenging environment. During the third quarter, we implemented a new digital banking platform for mobile and online banking.

This platform offers customers a consistent experience across all devices and delivers many new updated services. It has allowed us to advance our aggressive digital focus.

We've also launched a new market-leading mortgage origination system from Encompass that is supporting digital mortgage origination, to provide a streamlined experience for our borrowers.

The accelerated adoption of digital banking by customers propelled by the pandemic serves to reinforce the importance of a well-developed long-term technology road map like the one we have at NBT. Our ability to implement, execute and deliver during this volatile period is a testament to the talent of our team and our focus on our customers.

So let me turn to some financial highlights of the quarter. NBT achieved earnings of $0.80 per share, demonstrating our core underlying strengths.

This outcome was supported by a lower provision, focused expense control and strong fee-based income, including higher income from retirement plan administration fees, driven in part by our acquisition of Peoria-based ABG on April 1.

Through the strong collaboration of our bankers and our borrowers in the last 90 days, we saw loan deferrals drop to 2% from a peak of 15%. Amy will tell us more about these efforts. Finally, yesterday the Board approved a $0.27 dividend payable on December 15 and reaffirmed our dividend strategy for the quarters ahead.

At the end of September, our Board of Directors expanded the number of board seats and appointed Johanna Ames as our newest director. As a leader in business and in her community, Johanna is a strong addition who brings new perspective to our Board.

So at this time, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, John Moran, who will provide greater detail on our third quarter financial performance. .

John Moran

Thanks, John. Turning to Slide 4. As John highlighted our third quarter earnings per share were $0.80. There was nothing in the quarter that we'd call out as noncore other than the small securities gains.

As you can see the provision for loan losses was down substantially as compared to 2Q levels and at $3.3 million was actually down from last year's third quarter. Lower-than-normal charge-offs and a slight decrease in total loans led to a modest build in our reserve coverage which increased to 1.62% excluding PPP loans from 1.59% in 2Q.

Similar to the first half of the year our underlying operating performance held in well. Pre-provision net revenue of nearly $50 million was down about $1 million linked quarter, but tracked higher against the year-ago period. Our PPNR return on average assets was 183 basis points. Tangible book value per share was up approximately 3%.

TCE was up 23 basis points. And our CET1 ratio improved approximately 30 basis points as compared to the second quarter. Again this underscores that strong PPNR provides an engine for capital generation. Slide 5 shows trends in outstanding loans. On a core basis excluding PPP loans were down about 1% for the quarter.

As we suggested last quarter commercial activity has reset somewhat lower as compared to the robust levels we experienced last year and in the early part of 2020. That said activity did increase over the course of the quarter with substantially all parts of our footprint reopened more fully and pipelines continuing to rebuild.

This was especially true in New England where Vermont, Maine and our newest expansion market Connecticut are all tracking above plan. In fact New England commercial loans are up approximately 35% year-over-year anchored by strong commercial real estate activity. Moving to Slide 6.

Deposits were up just over $140 million point-to-point for the quarter with our core deposits up an even stronger $190 million. Customer cash remains elevated on increased liquidity associated with various government support programs and these deposits have been stickier than we would have expected.

We have continued to actively manage our funding costs both in the exception price book and in rack rates. Those actions combined with the higher levels of demand deposits are evident in our low 19 basis point cost of total deposits. As a reminder we drove a 50% decrease in funding costs from 1Q's levels in the second quarter.

While we do have some opportunities remaining in the back book around exception pricing and CDs the majority of our planned rate actions are now complete. Core deposit funding has long been a hallmark of the NBT franchise and we are very pleased with the results of our active repricing strategy to date.

Next on Slide 7 you'll see the detailed changes in our net interest income and margin. Earning assets increased during the quarter, driven by higher levels of cash and investment securities with loans down modestly. Mix shift the ongoing repricing of our assets and excess liquidity caused a decrease in both net interest income and in the margin.

NII was down $2.5 million and our reported margin decreased 21 basis points. As a reminder the full five basis point short-term impact of our recently issued sub debt is reflected in 3Q's run rate and the impact from excess cash and liquidity cost us an additional three basis points as compared to the second quarter.

The total impact from cash drag is now approximately 10 basis points. Continued repricing of our assets in the historically low rate environment will put additional pressure on our net interest margin though at a somewhat slower pace as compared to the last two quarters. Slide 8, shows trends in noninterest income.

Excluding modest securities gains and losses our fee income increased $2.8 million from last quarter and was up just over 5% from last year. More broadly non spread revenue was nearly 33% of our total revenue. As you know this remains a key strength for NBT as compared to peers.

Retail banking fees rebounded from 2Q's depressed levels with higher cash balances holding service charges at lower levels compared to a year ago, but improving from the lows of the second quarter. ATM and debit card fees have continued to demonstrate better growth than we would have expected, as activity improves.

The RPA line benefited from our recent ABG acquisition and new business pipelines for EPIC remain strong. Wealth rebounded on very strong markets. And finally, insurance demonstrated a typical seasonal bounce back from 2Q. Turning to non-interest expense on slide nine.

Our total operating expenses were just over $66 million for the quarter, up very modestly as compared to the second quarter. In a more difficult top line environment, we have continued to effectively manage our expenses and our net overhead ratio improved to a low 104 basis points.

While we're very pleased with that outcome, we are thinking through the appropriate level of operating expense as we adjust to the new economic realities of a COVID world. As a reminder, last quarter we announced the consolidation of seven branches later this year. That will result in approximately $1 million in annual savings starting next year.

As you know, we're always focused on operational excellence and we are hard at work on identifying additional opportunities in our cost structure. On slide 10, we provide an overview of key asset quality metrics. Excluding the impact of PPP, net charge-offs were a very low 13 basis points.

We restarted consumer collection activity during the quarter and we did see better payment results than we would have expected. Both NPLs and NPAs moved higher, but remain at low levels in the absolute. The migration to non-performers was driven by two specific relationships, both of which experienced COVID-related issues.

We continue to believe that the diversity and granularity of our loan portfolios, our long-established track record of conservative underwriting and the less dense nature of our upstate New York and New England footprint, should help us weather the current environment better than most.

As Amy will share, our deferrals are now running at 2% of total loans, which is down from a peak of approximately 15% during the second quarter. On slide 11, we provide a walk forward of our third quarter reserve build and the reserve allocations by loan category. In terms of outlook, obviously, the environment remains reasonably fluid.

While the recovery appears to have some traction, there is still a great deal of uncertainty around the path of the economy, the ultimate path of the pandemic and future government actions.

That said, we continue to believe that if the current macro forecast more or less holds, the path of charge-off activity and balance sheet growth are likely to be heavier factors in future provisioning needs than model-driven factors.

With that, I'll turn it over to Amy Wiles, our Chief Credit and Risk Officer, for some additional details on the credit front.

Amy?.

Amy Wiles

Thank you, John. The next slide shows where we stand on bank-wide payment deferrals as of October 19. The mix is fairly consistent and we've seen substantial progress across all of our portfolios. Our commercial portfolios continue to represent the majority at 75%, with consumer at 25% of total deferrals.

We have seen a very high return to pay of 88%, reducing total deferrals to $144 million or 2% of total loans. This is down from a peak of close to $1.1 billion or almost 15% of total loans.

Our consumer portfolio stands today at slightly over 1%, which is down from a peak of 7% and 9% respectively and our larger commercial portfolio at 3% is down from a peak at 22%. This high return to pay rate is consistent across all our portfolios.

The resiliency reflects fundamental strength of our portfolio and improving conditions with businesses opening up across the footprint, as well as the impact of the fiscal stimulus programs. The next slide provides a little more detail by portfolio owned by industry segment.

Restaurants and entertainment remain the highest at 16% of total deferrals, some of which are bowling and entertainment centers, for example, followed by hotels at 13%. Automotive retail is basically one borrower who has notified us they will be returning to pay at the end of the deferral period in November. Just a comment on our hotel customers.

Many in our footprint support leisure travel and have benefited from higher-than-normal in-state travel. And as a result, posted stronger numbers in July and August and were in a position to return to pay at the end of the deferral period. Currently, only 11% of our total hotel exposure remains on deferral down from a peak at 69%.

Turning to the next slide, you can see a mix of loans currently in deferral compared to peak, by portfolio and by industry. As noted on the slide, 88% of all COVID-19-related deferrals have returned to payment as of October 19. Even with the loans that required a second deferral, only 41% were full deferrals, down from 55%.

As we work closely with our customers to have them return to paying interest. It is also noteworthy, that only $20 million or 2% of expired deferrals are greater than 30 days past due.

This includes two relationships in commercial lending, totaling $10.8 million that have moved to non-performing status as of September 30 and were the primary drivers of the increase in non-performers, John mentioned earlier and were a direct result of the pandemic starting in the second quarter.

The remaining $9 million are consumer loans across the various portfolios that have not yet returned to paying status after the maturity of their deferral. This is where we see a delay in charge-offs with some of these appearing in the fourth quarter and why we expect full year charge-offs will be higher than year-to-date levels.

We are also doing portfolio reviews on all credits greater than $2.5 million in commercial lending that were not on deferral and are finding our customers are very resilient.

Many industry sectors are seeing strong demand and performance, so we feel we have identified the majority of relationships that will need enhanced monitoring based on what we know today. With that I will turn it back to John for final remarks. .

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Thank you, John and Amy. I will mention as we take your questions this morning that also joining us on the call today is our Chief Accounting Officer, Annette Burns; Corporate Treasurer, Mark Mershon; and our FP&A Manager, Bill Whitaker..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Alex Twerdahl with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open..

Alex Twerdahl

Good morning..

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Good morning, Alex..

Alex Twerdahl

First off I wanted to start on the – on NII and the margin. I understand there's going to be a lot of volatility with the forgiveness of PPD et cetera and liquidity levels.

But if we kind of push the NIM aside and just look at NII, I was wondering if you can maybe talk through some of the levers that you have to get NII to reverse in coming quarters, or if it won't reverse kind of what the moving parts are that we should be paying attention to?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes. Alex the biggest piece on NII dollars is going to be liquidity redeployment. As we referenced right the deposits have kind of been a little bit stickier than we would have guessed. So I think we're going to lean into that a little bit.

We're certainly hopeful when we look at the sort of commercial activity rebuilding pretty much across the footprint but really, especially New England lately. I think we're cautiously optimistic that we'll get some loan growth out of that and sort of redeploy get more productive earning assets.

So NII dollars, I think hopeful that we're kind of bottoming out here and as we read the liquidity, hopefully showing some growth in 4Q and into 2021..

Alex Twerdahl

Okay.

And when you say bottoming out that would be assuming – would that be the core margin, or would that be assuming the accelerated PPP fees as well?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

No, no. That's excluding PPP. And to be clear NII dollar's kind of bottoming out and turning around. Margin I think will – as more of our assets kind of reprice off of the belly of the curve in this historically low rate environment and I think we'll see a little bit more compression on the core margin..

Alex Twerdahl

Thank you for taking my question..

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Absolutely..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Collyn Gilbert with KBW. Your line is now open..

Collyn Gilbert

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just first a quick question on – it's just a housekeeping question.

On other OpEx, in the quarter and what was driving that swing? And kind of what's the outlook there? I just want to make sure we understand what's going on there?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes. Other was pretty flat, Collyn in the quarter. I think in a COVID world we're traveling less there's a little bit less T&E going on. Some of the things that are sort of variable cost in nature are running a little bit slower this year than what they would in a normal year.

In terms of overall expense outlook, I'd just remind you 4Q tends to be a little bit seasonal.

And as things get more and more back to some semblance of the new business as usual, I wouldn't use $66 million core as necessarily the right run rate going forward maybe that ticks up just a touch in 4Q and then again ideally if we stay open as an economy, I think 2021 we could see a little bit more normalcy on some of the expense lines. .

Collyn Gilbert

Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then on the fee side, so you'd indicated the pipeline for Epic has been good business development there has been good. Can you just tighten maybe the outlook a little bit there on fees? And obviously you saw a rebound as you had indicated from the second quarter.

And just kind of how you're seeing some of those fee lines trending as we move into the end of the year and then 2021?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes. So what I would tell you is directionally fee income is usually down a little bit in 4Q. We've got lower mortgage activity typically, refi has stayed pretty strong. We're running about 60/40 purchase refi today, so maybe that bucks the trend a little bit in 4Q. But there's some seasonality in our lines.

And I'd expect as we look into 4Q maybe these will come in a touch softer versus 3Q. And then when you look out to next year ABG is a terrific add for us. The Epic business continues to chug along. New business pipelines they are very, very strong. And I think we're optimistic that we'll be able to continue to grow the overall fee line.

So one other kind of wrinkle to consider is just the NSF fees on the retail banking side have been running quite a bit lower than what they were a year ago. And while we're starting to see that rebound quarter-over-quarter, on a year-over-year basis it's still soft and that's just a change in client behavior and focusing it on for cash. .

Collyn Gilbert

Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then I just want to make sure Amy, the comments on credit. So that you said full year net charge-offs are going to be higher than year-to-date. And I think referencing -- I don't know if it's directly correlated to the $9 million that you had said still that have not moved to payment status.

But just trying to understand kind of how you're thinking about -- obviously the elevation of charge-offs in the fourth quarter. And just again where that is coming from and some of the assumptions there. .

Amy Wiles

Sure. I'll talk a little bit about consumer and then commercial separately. So to your question on the consumer side, we expect there are a percentage of loans that have come off or will move to deferral that either have or may go delinquent and move to charge-off in the fourth quarter.

So this is really why we expect turnouts to be a little higher in the Q4 than Q3. It's not surprising. That normal loss rates will eventually materialize in these portfolios but they're just shifted to the back end of Q4 or even possibly into the first quarter of 2021.

So, it's still a little too early to say much more about specific numbers or levels and we're working with all of our customers some of which will get modifications that will go into 2021. On the commercial side, I'll just mention we've made a lot of progress as you can see on the deferrals, but it's still very early.

We're only a couple of quarters into this. And the impact of the PPP and the different programs and the curve of the economic recovery it's difficult to see how that's all going to play out. So tough to forecast and we may not know much more until really we're in 2021 on the commercial side. .

Collyn Gilbert

Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then lastly John maybe just on M&A, you guys have mentioned in your opening comments that New England and then parts of Upstate New York are seeing better activity.

Do you see the pipeline equally improving for M&A potential in 2021? And just maybe if you could give some color as to kind of near-term plans on what you could see as it relates to M&A?.

John Moran

Sure, Collyn. We believe that into the first and second Q of 2021, our ability to get visibility into credit portfolios is going to be a lot better than it is today. So lots of conversations, obviously, occur but they are preliminary given the volatility in those portfolios at potential partners.

Clearly, crossing $10 billion, the way we did, puts a focus on one of the most important tools we have in the toolbox, which is accelerated growth by M&A. And we spent a lot of time over the last 60 days making sure we understand what that potential road map could look like.

With that said, as I have said to you and others on this call many times, our growth is primarily driven by organic and supplemented. So it's not the only tool.

You heard from John about the relatively strong loan pipelines in New England, are going to be over in New England later this week visiting with a large real estate customer as a couple of projects that are likely to get launched soon and there are others across Northern New England looking at the same thing. So we're optimistic there.

Back to where I started, more visibility in the first Q and second Q into what the potential partners' balance sheet looks like..

Collyn Gilbert

Okay, great. Thanks for that color. I’ll leave it there. Thanks guys..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. your line is now open..

Matthew Breese

Good morning..

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Matt, how are you?.

Matthew Breese

Great. Hey. Just on thinking about new loan yields. So this quarter the average loan yield is 3.95%.

What does the pipeline look like relative to that? Just so we get a good sense of what's coming on versus rolling off?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes. Loan yields are clearly under pressure, Matt. I'd say, sort of, across the board any earning asset yield it's every bit of 150-ish basis points lower than it was at the beginning of the year. So when you think about new coming on versus existing costs, there is a gap there. .

Matthew Breese

Okay.

Could you provide some detail on where we might see that? What is that gap? And where we might see if new loan yields were to be the floor, what it is?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes. I'd say, book yield in the quarter were on the C&I side in the low 3s; on the commercial real estate side high 2s, low 3s; business banking kind of hanging in a little bit better. But versus the existing book yield at 3.95%, we're going to have some pressure there..

Matthew Breese

Okay, okay. And then, you discussed a fairly strong loan pipeline. Obviously, the environment is really challenging on the growth front.

Not necessarily next quarter, but as you think about over the next 12 months or so, where do you see gross loans kind of trending to? Do you see more pressure, or do you feel like you can hold it here and expand the overall size?.

John Moran

So, clearly, there are a lot of factors that will influence this statement like, is there going to be additional stimulus and what is its form? But putting that aside, it would be at our asset size in our interest to drive and slightly grow in 2021.

But we're still in the middle of the budget process, still trying to input all of the external factors into that discussion.

We're hopeful that after the election that the Congress comes back and considers more seriously stimulus that will help bridge us to the other side of the vaccine and at the same time provide stability to many of our small business and commercial customers, as well as states and municipalities that beat that assistance.

And if those things happen, the probability of a little bit of growth next year is stronger..

Matthew Breese

Got it. Okay. And just framing the deployment of liquidity discussion a little bit, cash balances if I include the short-term stuff is a hair over 600.

How much of that are you looking to deploy? What's the right level? And in the near-term, should we see some of it go into the securities portfolio? How much expansion could we see there?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Yes Matt, you're right. Look ideally we would -- we have a wand and have $600 million of loan growth show up by next year. I think that that is a little bit of a stretch to expect. So, yes, clearly sitting a good chunk of that 610 basis points overnight is a drag for us. It has proven to be stickier than we would have expected.

And so we'll report dividends into the securities. You saw us kind of increase the size of the book a little bit not as a percentage of working assets, but in dollars. Securities grew over the course of the quarter. We're kind of taking our spots and we'll continue to--.

Matthew Breese

Okay. Last one for me.

Just what was all-in PPP income for the quarter?.

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Got that number, bear with me just a sec here. We were $4.6 million on the quarter, $1.3 million of that was interest and $3.3 million of that was the amortization of the fees..

Matthew Breese

Perfect. I appreciate taking my questions. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] I'm not showing any further questions. I will now turn the call back to John Watt for closing remarks. .

John H. Watt, Jr. Vice Chairman & Advisor

Thank you, Sarah and thanks all of you who participated in the call this morning. Clearly the pandemic and its impacts are going to be with us for a while. But we are nevertheless encouraged by the resiliency of our customers and the markets and the communities we serve.

And most importantly, what we really are encouraged by the commitment demonstrated by our team. So, we look forward to momentum in the fourth quarter and into 2021. So, once again, thanks for your participation today. Have a great day..

Operator

Thank you to everyone who participated on this call, for your interest in NBT Bancorp. This concludes today's program. You may now disconnect. Have a great day..

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