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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q3
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Executives

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Analysts

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc. Matt Diamond - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc. J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc. David M. Wong - Wells Fargo Securities LLC Quinn Bolton - Needham & Co. LLC Ruben Roy - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker) Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker) Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Monolithic Power Systems, Inc. Q3 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct the question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder this conference is being recorded.

I would like to introduce your host for today's conference, Ms. Meera Rao, Chief Financial Officer. Ma'am, please begin..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Non-GAAP gross margin in the range of 54.6% to 55.6%, GAAP gross margin in the range of 53.9% to 54.9%. Total stock-based compensation expense of $9.5 million to $10.5 million, including approximately $300,000 that would be charged to cost of goods.

Litigation expenses of $200,000 to $400,000, non-GAAP R&D and SG&A expense in the range of $25 million to $26 million. This estimate excludes stock compensation and litigation expenses. Other income of $200,000 to $300,000 before foreign exchange gains or losses.

Fully diluted shares in the range of 41.1 million shares to 41.5 million shares before share buyback. In conclusion, as expected we outperformed the market. I'll now open the microphone for questions..

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Yes, thank you. My first question on your consumer business. I know the high value segment has become a larger and larger percentage of that business.

Could you give us a ballpark on where you are with the high value as percentage of the consumer bucket?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

It's more than a third of our consumer revenue, approaching 40%, I would say in the third quarter..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Okay, very good. Okay, and....

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Tore, the application is a variety of Internet of Things (13:11), okay. If it's related to Internet and also some wearable stuff in sports cameras, and that kind of things, and we see there's a lot more activity in recent years..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Very good. And the strength you're seeing in server storage, it sounds like that's primarily SSD related.

So when we think about the opportunity that you have in the server market, especially on things like core power, that hasn't even started right just yet, right?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

The core power we have a few customers from last year, we start to ramp, and the bulk of a core power ramp would be end of the next year, the early 2017..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Okay, very good. And, Meera, I think you mentioned that distribution inventories were down again this quarter.

Could you maybe add some color there, how low can they possibly go, and what types of visibility discussions are you having with some of your end customers at this point?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Sure. As we have done in the past, anytime we hear any suggestions of macro weakness, we typically hold inventory in the channel and that's what we have done now for two quarters in a row.

And as you're aware, if we continuously keep it down, there's sometimes panic of shortage, so we'll continue to watch inventory in the channel and manage it as low as we can without generating any panic..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Sounds good. Congratulations on the results. Very impressive. Thank you..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Thank you..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ross Seymore of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open..

Matt Diamond - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Hey, guys, this is actually Matt on Ross' behalf. Congrats on the great results as well..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Thank you..

Matt Diamond - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

I wanted to ask you about the comms market.

I know that it was mentioned that softness in the traditional gateway market happened in 3Q, but if you could extrapolate a little bit further on that, just to get a better idea of how long the weakness is expected to persist and what could catalyze its rebounding?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Most of the traditional market is – the traditional gateway market is something that's got lower gross margins, so it's not a market that we pursue aggressively. So if the demand is low, we just let it play out. We are more strategically focused on other markets, which have higher gross margin profile..

Matt Diamond - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Duly noted. And the OpEx plan, it was mentioned last quarter that there's a little bit of a step-up given the ramp in the fourth foundry. I just wanted to calibrate that for the fourth quarter.

Should we still expect – heading into 2016, rather, should we still expect a little bit of alleviated OpEx heading into 1Q or has something occurred to change that?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

No. One of the things you would have noticed is we have reduced our OpEx a little bit this quarter on the fourth foundry, and you'll see that spill over into the first half of next year. So we continue to invest in our fourth foundry..

Matt Diamond - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Excellent. Thanks very much..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steven Smigie of Raymond James. Your line is open..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Great. Thanks a lot and add my congratulations on pretty good results in a pretty tough environment. I was hoping you could comment a little bit on how you think about seasonality going into the first calendar quarter.

I mean, you have a very nice guide here which to me looks better than seasonal, so does that mean we should be a little bit more cautious on the March quarter before you got some big ramps next year?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

You know, at this point we don't give guidances for Q1, so we tend to look at – seasonally, we are typically down 5% to 10%, then it's a question of how much growth do we have to offset it and more importantly what's the macro. So at this point, I can't give any color on Q1..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay, great. But overall as you pointed out, you guys have been getting double-digit growth year-over-year for quite a while.

Is it fair to think that calendar 2016, we could probably see continued double-digit growth there, could that be 15% or something even higher like we saw this year?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

I think the growth will be accelerating and if not like 16% (18:10), will be in 17%s (18:12), and we are really targeting more than 20% growth, and you see the results, just the recent results, this is at the beginning, and since last couple years we released all the right product to the right customers and the result in two or three – in a couple of years – well, two years or three years since last years and that will really accelerate MPS growth..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay, great. And last question was just, can you give any new color on motion control programmability? Any new color there would be great? Thanks..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

The motion controls products we'll release in the first half of next year, and this is the product, not the same as what we do before and before we always have fixed products and you have design wins and once when the product is ready and now there's all – F (19:28) solution based and a lot of them is based on FPGAs and even before we have a product ready, and we could engage with a lot of those customers.

And so we have a lot of tremendous design activity going on now..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Great. Thanks.

And then any color on – update on color on the programmability that you mentioned at Analyst Day?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. The other one is the module ones and the power modules and also the FPB, FPPM (20:07) and Field Programmable Power Modules and the Field Programmable Power IC, FPPC (20:12). And those are still very much on schedule. As we're speaking we're releasing many products now..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay. Great. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Wong of Wells Fargo. Your line is open..

David M. Wong - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Thank you very much.

Could you give us some idea as to how your R&D expenses might trend out next few quarters and what your highest priorities will be in terms of new projects that you're investing in?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

So in terms of R&D, as well as sales and marketing, we will continue to invest because everything that we do in terms of resources we bring on board next year actually sets us up even better for growth a year or two out. So we will continue to do that, but we expect at the end of the day, they'll be leverage to the bottom line.

Places where we'll spend on R&D, one is going to be the fourth foundry, the bring up the foundry. The second is going to be on differentiated products, which are targeting at different markets, some of which we have discussed in the past, some of which we will be discussing over the next year or two..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Overall, the R&D growth, okay, and expenses growth will be much less than the revenue growth and you see our history..

David M. Wong - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Great. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Quinn Bolton of Needham & Company. Your line is open..

Quinn Bolton - Needham & Co. LLC

Hi, guys. Let me second (21:52) my congratulations. Just wanted to come back, Meera, looking at the breakout by end market, the compute (21:58) was up nicely and telco down to the lowest level in probably five quarters or six quarters.

Just trying to get a sense on the compute side, do you think that SSD strength continues or was there sort of some, one-time business that you are able to take advantage of in the quarter? And then similarly on telco, I know that the telco market has been fairly weak, especially in some of the wireless comm infrastructure.

But some of your peers have started to say, they're starting to see some uptick in comm infrastructure, wondering if you're seeing any pickup there..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Sure. When we look at computing, in storage, SSD storage, we had a new design win that started ramping up for us in Q3 and that was part of the growth. In Q4, as far as storage is concerned, I see two things playing out.

We typically sell our SSD products both to enterprise as well as high-end client, and there's usually seasonal weakness in both Q4 and Q1 on the high-end PC side of it. The second I think, overall, there is some softness in both HDD and SSD, particularly as we go into Q4.

In terms of our communications, a lot of the weakness that we're seeing there has been in our gateway business. These are things like modems, routers, LAN cards that are sold to the home and the home office.

There's also a little bit of weakness, I would say, in the networking and telecom side of the business, and there it's a mix of wired markets as well as wireless, so we're seeing a little bit, but I'd say more of the weakness is in the gateway side of the house..

Quinn Bolton - Needham & Co. LLC

And just sort of two follow-on questions, can you give us any sense what percent gateways might be of the overall comm bucket? And then if you take a step back looking out at the broader business, across all end markets, obviously, the economy seemed to take a little bit of a breather.

Over the summer, we saw a lot of the analog, mixed signal group indicating order softness.

To the extent that you saw that slowdown late summer, would you say things have stabilized now or orderly times still fairly short and difficult to predict? I mean, a couple of your peers have said think we're through the worst of it, wondering if you might be able to make a similar comment..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

In terms of the auto momentum, we typically record (24:37) six weeks to eight weeks lead time to our customers, except for a few new products, which might have a slightly longer one, and we have not seen any change from that standpoint.

I mean, we are – I guess, we are in so many different markets that we never feel comfortable quite calling the macro. We depend upon our larger, more stable competitors to call them macro for us. So if I were to say markets where we have seen some weakness, I would say it's in the traditional gateway business for the home, home office.

I'd also say there's some in storage. Beyond that, I couldn't really comment about the macro..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

That's the beauty of the MPS, we are in a position we don't know, so okay (25:25). Everything is a good opportunity for MPS..

Quinn Bolton - Needham & Co. LLC

Okay. Great. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Ruben Roy of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open..

Ruben Roy - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker)

Thank you. I had a follow-up on that last discussion topic as it relates to the distributor channel inventory. Meera, you talked about the inventory down for second consecutive quarter and you answered a question around that.

I'm just wondering, what's going on in Bisbee (25:57)? Is that being actively managed down for any reason, would you say? Have you guys seen any change in the way distributors want to hold inventory at this point based on what they're seeing from the macro? And also I don't think I caught it, but can you give us the range, historical range in weeks that you typically see in distribution and where you are within that range at this point? Thank you..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Our typical range is about 30 days to 45 days of inventory. And we typically prefer to hold in the upper half of that, so we have not seen any particular push from distributors to hold less.

This has been more something that we have actively managed and we have done in prior years as well, whenever we start seeing signs of a macro weakness, we start managing the inventory and the channel to the best we can so that the days come down and that's what you see played out for the second time..

Ruben Roy - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker)

Okay..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, hi, Ruben. I try to convince our shareholders that our inventory is not really like a traditional mature semiconductor company. It's indicating of a future business. I'm guess I'm losing the battles.

This is the growth (27:33) company, and we have a lot of product released, and what kind of inventory holds and it really depend on what kind of product that we released. So that's how I can best put it. So slight inventory change, okay, it doesn't mean our futures..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Add on to that, in terms of the inventory, the internal inventories that we hold, we are now at about 147 days.

Internal model is about 135 days to 155 days, and we expect in the next few quarters, there'll be more around the 150 days for all the reasons that Michael talked about, particularly the new products, as well as inventory needed to support our strategic customers..

Ruben Roy - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker)

Right. Yeah, that's helpful. I was trying to see – get to whether or not anything had changed in distribution behavior, but I understand what you're saying, Michael. So thank you for that. Just a quick follow-up.

In terms of the end market mix, obviously, there's some near-term issues going on in communications and you had a new design win ramping within storage.

But as you look out into next year, would you say that the mix would be sort of similar to historical levels with communications still sort of in the low to mid-20%s as a percentage of revenue, and maybe if you could comment on if there are any changes that you're seeing with mix as you look ahead to 2016 based on design wins, et cetera, if any of that may impact gross margin.

Thank you..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

So, when we look out into 2016, I'd expect to see growth in computing, consumer, and industrial markets. Communications, I'm guessing, is going to be mostly flat. And all the revenue drivers are essentially all the different drivers we have talked about in the past.

I continue to believe that industrial is going to see strong growth next year with automotive markets leading the way, but you'd also expect to see growth in smart meters, in security, in power sources.

In consumer, we expect to see the newer high value markets continue to grow and in the computing section, it would be SSDs, servers, as well as high (30:13), and a module business would also continue to grow and AC-DC, which is distributed among all these markets, would also be growing next year. So, we expect to see multiple areas of growth..

Ruben Roy - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker)

Okay. Thank you, Meera..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

You're welcome..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Rick Schafer from Oppenheimer. Your line is open..

Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Hey, thanks. Michael, you mentioned strong design win momentum for e-motion (30:44). Can you talk a little bit about the number of design wins, or quantify the number of design wins you guys have so far.

I know it's a new product and it's early days, but just to give a sense of maybe what that equates to in terms of dollars of backlog or any kind of color around that you could give?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I'm so far as you know, we talked about, we have a separate chips now, (31:08), and a real e-motion (31:10) chip that we're going to release next year, and those we use – now use a programmable third-party product and that's FPGAs to do the feasibility study in our customers' systems.

And so, it's hard to quantify in a dollar sense (31:42), but the SANS (31:44) portion of it we have a – we generate revenues, and I don't know what is the revenue numbers now. It's not small. Well, small means, in our case, it's still – now, small means it's still some millings (31:58), okay, and for the entire next years..

Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Okay.

And maybe a follow-up to that is, are there any hints of competition? I mean what are you seeing from the legacy guys? How are they responding in that space, or are they responding?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, to them it's shocking and the good or bad and the good things is, wow, you can do this. And then now is the bad thing is really a behavior change. Okay. People change the design their system in a different way. And they don't have to use the encoders (32:46).

They don't have to use the step models, and they don't have to use a brushed model anymore. And there's a momentum, think the brushless models, whether encoders (33:02) costs very, very high, and now when you look at this solution, its cost is so low. And overall they had to get over this barrier somehow in terms of how they design in their system.

And so obviously, and it is a large market segment in like a printers and some of the traditional robots and they were adopting a first, and so still these are design cycles – is a one year or just a couple of years..

Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Okay. And I know you've talked in the past about sales and marketing, maybe as a gating factor on your growth. I mean, this sounds like a perfect example, where you're going to have to help kind of get people over the hump or get people comfortable with the new solution as compelling as it is.

I mean, should we read anything into that in terms of like looking into 2016, 2017, should we expect to see some of your sales and marketing expenses maybe take a step up as a percent of revenues or any change, I guess, maybe to the model you've been running? I think, Meera, correct me, but I think you've been running overall OpEx at sort of 50%, 60% of your top-line growth.

But just basically looking to see if any of that was going to change..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

That's a very sensitive question, (34:34), yeah. And let me answer in that way. Our long-term shareholder, everything what we do is affect us three years, four years out.

So, for the long-term investors and have the same kind of a length and so then our company's goals is perfectly lined up with our investors, but other long term is shorter than three years, four years, like one year to two years, then it's a not quite aligned with it.

We published the models and we're going to grow the OpEx in slightly less than half of a revenue growth, which to me doesn't quite make sense and – but we balanced our shareholders' interest there..

Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

All right. Thanks, Michael..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay. I give you very political answer, so that's how we do it..

Rick E. Schafer - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Right. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Anil Doradla of William Blair. Your line is open..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Hey, guys, congrats on the great results..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Thank you..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Couple questions. On the auto side, Meera and Michael, can you remind us how much is the contribution as part of industrial? And also with the recent controversy on Volkswagen, does that have any impact? I know you guys are very small on this overall market, but would love to hear some feedback on that because we get questions by clients on that..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, we are very small and secondly, we're not in engine (36:21), okay..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

And on the auto side?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

It doesn't really affect us, okay, in terms of automotive. We're more into lighting, infotainment, and more the lightings, all kinds of lightings, okay. You have security, okay, you have lightings and illuminations, and okay (36:47), also the dashboards and we have – the other one is the camera side, and okay (36:55).

So we have a lot of design activities, and it really doesn't affect..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

And what is the contribution, Meera, of auto to the overall industrial?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

I'd say among the four growth drivers in industrial, it's the biggest..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

So we don't give a percentage out. Okay. And next year we have to break out. Okay..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay. Okay. So it's going to be material up (37:24), that's good to know..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Now, typically on the telecom side when we look at the big metal guys, when we go to the slump or weakness, we've historically seen based on precedence call it a three quarter air pocket and we come back.

Now, Meera and Michael, based on your experience, with even the gateway business, I mean, I'm thinking it should be shorter air pockets, but do you have any experience with the duration of softness once you get into the space from MPS's point of view, any perspective?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

I mean, we have seen it be one quarter like we did last year. The two years prior to that, it was each two quarters. Before that, it has been three. When it comes to macro weaknesses and stuff, we just don't feel comfortable. I can look at it afterwards and say what we saw.

I want to emphasize again that the gateway business is low margin and we just play in opportunistically. So we don't spend a lot of time doing any soul searching in the space..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay. And finally, Michael, on the – I saw some press release from TI, some product, now it was not brushless, it was around brush, but it was around sensing, could have been one of those small ancillary press releases. But coming back to your (38:48) – I think someone asked a question related to that.

What is competition doing on it? Are they trying to beef up their assets in this space, or they're totally clueless or they're not focusing on it?.

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

They are (38:59), I think they do some current sensing. The current sensing and I don't know if you refer that one. I know – there's a product release and there's a current (39:08) – integrated with a current sensing. The current sensing – the model (39:13) driver, we released two years ago. These are....

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Our sensing is the sensing that rotor of the models and that's a Siemens (39:26) technology. So it's entirely different..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So e-motion product stocking (39:31) is much more advanced than the products that you were just talking about..

Anil Kumar Doradla - William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay. Very good. And congrats once again..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Thank you..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Yes, thank you. I just had a few follow-ups. First of all, your business has been remarkably stable here the last few quarters, stable meaning you have very consistent double-digit growth year-over-year. Now, you probably turned quite a bit of each quarter, but it just seems remarkably stable.

So is that mainly because, the new markets that you're getting into have longer lead-times, or is it mainly just because you have multiple design wins hitting all at the same time?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

I think it's a combination, right. I mean, we have multiple growth drivers, we are playing in different markets, some markets we are growing market share. So, as a result of all that, we have actually continued to see growth. I mean, that is the key reason why we were focusing so much on diversification. It helps us at a time like this.

Yes, we see weakness in a few markets, but we kind of see growth in a whole lot of other markets and that's, I think, what's really helping us at times like this. It really showcases the strength of the diversification model..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Very good. And not the – yeah, go ahead, Michael..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, Tore, I might – as I added, okay (41:06), and give you a longer story. Four years ago, we sell up this model, two years ago, we – and four years ago, we are changing – we changed our focus, and then we start knocking on the door for these new customers. And two years ago, we were in the door. And two years later, we have a lot more product.

And what I see is why we are not – why we are now in a grow 15%, 18% a year, why not faster? And all the products that we released in the last couple of years, it will indicate in 2017 and 2018 will grow faster. So, this is at the beginning..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Very good. And not to nitpick on the P&L but, Meera, in the other income line, it seems like maybe there was a negative impact.

Was that from foreign exchange, and how should we think about that for the following quarters?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

So we actually had a positive effect to interest income line from foreign currency. This is more on payments, our payments to our subsidiaries, there's a foreign exchange difference and it turned out to be positive.

So typically when we give guidance, we guide it to a $0 of gain or loss because we don't know until each quarter plays out whether it's a gain or a loss. We have had quarters of loss, and we have had quarters of gain. So what we guide to specifically is the pure interest income portion of it..

Tore E. Svanberg - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Sounds good. Great. Thank you very much..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

You're welcome..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Steve Smigie of Raymond James. Your line is open..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Great. Thanks for the opportunity for the follow-up. Just, you gave a great answer, Meera, earlier on how the segments would perform in the coming year.

Any sense that you could give us more short term just how you think Q4 each of the (43:35) segments will do sequentially?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

I think you will see the seasonal – seasonality play out in the gateway portion of communications. You will see some seasonal impact on the SSD for the high end computing, consumer, of course. Industrial, I think, will relatively have less of a seasonal play and that's the best I can describe at this point.

As you know, with such a distributed revenue base, we are actually dependent on the resales (44:20) reports we get to actually pinpoint which markets we sell into..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay. Great. And just any color on the lighting market? I think you've had some success there with LED lighting.

Just curious, does that – how that's doing into Q4 and how you think about that for 2016?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Lighting has – is one of these markets where we haven't seen seasonality play in before – in the fourth quarter and it's a market where we continue to do well because we play in the high-end of the market with a very good dimming solutions, and so we continue to see that play out..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay. Last question was just around auto. I know you guys are extremely diversified, which is great, but just to give us some increased confidence around how we could think about potential opportunity there.

Would you say at this point you're on annually tens of millions of vehicles, out of the 90 million or 100 million maybe autos are you on 10 million, 20 million and you've got a little bit on each, are you more concentrated on the vehicles you get in with multiple solutions?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

So what we are seeing is mostly revenue that we got from design wins that we got about four years ago and since then every year we have increased the pace of our design wins here. We started with infotainment and then we have gone on to safety and....

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Lighting..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

...lighting and a whole bunch of other products. So like Michael said, we are not under the hood, thankfully, at this point, but we see on an annual basis there are more and more design wins. So when we look at revenues for automotive, we are increasingly confident that we will see higher revenues each year looking at next year's....

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Actually, yeah, we have – in Analyst Days that we have a slide, and we have a couple of slides and now I think it will be – is online, right?.

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

Yes..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

And you can look at our product and our design cycles. Four years ago, we started knocking on doors and with existing product and, again, two years ago, we're in the door and we engage with all these auto customers and we design specifically for automotive.

These products will be – since two years ago will be four years later, which is 2016/2017 and 2016/2017, we're getting to productions, so these are very predictable and very sustainable revenues..

J. Steven Smigie - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Okay, great. All right. Thank you very much..

Michael R. Hsing - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. At this time I'd like to turn it back to Ms. Rao for any closing remarks..

Meera Rao - Chief Financial Officer

I'd like to thank you all for joining us on this call and look forward to talking to you again at our next earnings call in February. Thank you and have a nice day. Bye-bye..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes your program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day..

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