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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q2
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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the MidWestOne Financial Group, Inc. Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. . Please note, this event is being recorded. This presentation contains forward-looking statements relating to the financial condition, results of operations and business of MidWestOne Financial Group, Inc.

Forward-looking statements generally include words such as believes, expects, anticipates and other similar expressions. Actual results could differ materially from those indicated.

Among the important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are interest rates, changes in the mix of the company's business, competitive pressures, general economic conditions and the risk factors detailed in the company's periodic reports and registration statements filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

MidWestOne Financial Group, Inc. undertakes no obligation to publicly revise or update these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this presentation. .

Charles Funk

Thank you very much, Eiley, and we welcome everyone, and thank you for joining us this morning or afternoon, if you're in the eastern time zone.

And I would say that I am joined today by Gary Sims, our Chief Credit Officer; Barry Ray, our Chief Financial Officer; Jim Cantrell, our Chief Investment Officer; and Len Devaisher, the President of the company.

And I would make a few introductory comments and just say that, overall, it was really an interesting quarter and certainly a good quarter financially. And I think one of the highlights of the quarter is that we're beginning to see just a few green shoots in terms of loan demand in our footprint. A few other general comments.

We did have continued decent deposit generation, although the period-to-period numbers are pretty flat. I think that's due to a few large -- very large temporary deposits that were parked in the bank on 3/31 that left during the quarter. Very pleased to report that asset quality is stable to improving.

And I think we have a positive momentum in terms of asset quality in our company. Net interest margin remains a challenge for us and I think a challenge for our industry, not just MidWestOne. In terms of capital, we feel very good about the tangible common equity ratio back near 8%.

And I would remind all of our listeners that for many years, more than a decade, our target for tangible common equity has been in the 8% to 8.5% range. So we're very comfortable with where we stand right now.

Specifically, talk just a little bit about the balance sheet and say that the PPP forgiveness has ramped up the past 45 days or so, ex PPP, as we put in the earnings release, our loan totals grew 2.2% in the linked quarter.

The primary producers of the growth in our loan portfolio came from Denver and from the Twin Cities, although we do see positive momentum out of our Iowa City market as well as our Southwest Florida market. And would also say that line usage on our lines of credit continues to be in the low 30% range.

And normally, at this time of the year, it would probably be in the mid-40s. So down about 1/3, and we really don't see that changing in the near term. But we will continue to watch that and report on it as we are able. Competition for good loans, I would categorize as brutal. There's a lot of stretching.

And as one noted economist said this week, "stooping for yield," we are seeing rates quoted in the 2s for out to 5 years and occasionally longer than 5 years in the high 2s. We don't see a lot of compromise on asset quality, perhaps a little bit, but not a lot.

I think most of the competition right now is in the rate category, and that really does make it tough on maintaining a good margin, but we are competing when we feel as we -- that we need to.

And in the ag space, as we've said in past calls, Farm Credit Services remains a very, very strong competitor, offering long-term fixed rates in the 2s and it's very, very difficult to compete with that. .

Operator

. Our first question today will come from Brendan Nosal with Piper Sandler..

Brendan Nosal

Charlie, I appreciate your comments on liquidity flows during the quarter and the fact that period-end deposits probably masked what's still going on given some movement there with the larger deposits.

Could you expand a little bit on kind of the pace of liquidity outflows that you continue to see and whether or not they slowed down a little bit or continuing at these record levels?.

James Cantrell

Brendan, this is Jim. I guess I'll start. Charlie was right. I think we did see some large -- fairly large balance deposits run out in the month. My sense is that we've -- as I look at the second quarter, we probably hit close to our peak. We're down off the peak as we ended the quarter down off the peak of our total deposit balances.

So we're just not seeing the pace of growth that we were seeing through the prior 4 or 5 quarters. So I would -- my sense is that deposit growth, while not negative, has slowed down considerably here in the latter part of the second quarter and now moving into the third quarter..

Brendan Nosal

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then maybe on a related note. If liquidity flows are indeed slowing down or stopping entirely, I think that's been one of the largest variables for the margin over the past couple of quarters, coupled with one of the worst rate environments imaginable.

But just given the liquidity flows are slowing, any thoughts on your ability to defend the margin from this point? Or without a steeper curve, is there going to be kind of a bit of a further grind down?.

James Cantrell

One, we will have some PPP forgiveness still remaining. I think there were $184 million worth of PPP loans on the books at the end of the quarter. What we've seen over the last month or 1.5 months is that as those loans have been forgiven, they've been replaced with either shrinking the wholesale funding side or with loans coming on the books. .

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeffrey Rulis with D.A. Davidson..

Jeffrey Rulis

Charlie, you spoke on the buyback appetite. It sounds like that's going to be a tool that we continue to use, particularly it stepped up of late.

I guess -- just circling back to kind of M&A, they've been kind of on the sidelines for a bit and just kind of revisit where you sit on sort of capital allocation and the opportunities that you see?.

Charles Funk

We think right now, buying back our stock is a very good use of our capital, especially at these levels. Even slightly higher levels, we still think it's a very good investment for our shareholders. We're aware of M&A opportunities.

We've looked at a number this year, but we also have to understand what we're able to pay for as a company that would benefit our shareholders and if we find opportunities. And there may be some that would be a benefit to our shareholders, we certainly would pursue them, and we think we have the means to do so..

Jeffrey Rulis

Okay. And Charlie, on the loan pipeline that you mentioned sort of they're reasonable, I suppose, and you also talked about some paydowns. So I'm trying to peg where you are in -- it sounds like more of an optimistic tone and as things sort of reopen, but just getting a sense for your expectations.

Is it safe to say that you're slightly less maybe defensively minded on credit, if that's more comfortable? And just expectations, I guess, kind of second half of the year and maybe into '22 on kind of growth, are we in approaching a mid-single-digit expectation or not quite there yet, given still pretty brutal competition, as you said?.

Charles Funk

Well, we can compete, and we're certainly willing to compete on price. We're not willing to compete by stretching credit terms too far. However, I think mid-single digits would seem kind of high to me, but I think the expectation here is that we would continue to grow our loan portfolio at a measured pace. Again, the 30% line usage doesn't help us.

And I know others are experiencing the same thing. When folks sell their businesses, that doesn't help us. But we've got some things in the pipeline and I think it probably depends more on paydowns than it does on production because I think we're going to be able to produce based on what I see in the pipeline. And I hope that helps you..

Jeffrey Rulis

Yes. No, it's all -- I think we're all kind of dealing with businesses flushed with cash and how this sort of unwinds, but I'm just trying to -- helpful to have some additional color.

But I did have one last one for maybe, Barry, the tax rate kind of '21, '22 to the expectation that we're kind of hugging in the middle of that range? What do you think the ratio of the drop is?.

Barry Ray

Jeff, I would utilize something around that for the full year, yes..

Operator

Our next question comes from Terry McEvoy with Stephens..

Terence McEvoy

I've got a question on the non-PPP commercial loan growth. I know you mentioned Denver and Twin Cities as two markets that kind of stood out.

I was hoping you could maybe just expand on the green shoots that you were seeing? Were there any consistent themes among those borrowers in the second quarter? And just kind of layering in, when the PPP loan is forgiven, what are those customers doing? Are they then having conversations with you about their lending relationship? And are they an area of growth going forward?.

Charles Funk

I'll let our President, Len, take the first crack at that, and Gary may want to weigh in following..

Len Devaisher President & Chief Operating Officer

Thanks, Charlie. I say in response to, Terry, your second question about when the loans are forgiven. So one of the things that is a core part of our process as a relationship-focused bank is, of course, spending time with those customers and comping alongside them to -- as they look forward and look ahead.

So to our point earlier about the line usage, right? We see that PPP -- those dollars as a major pressure point online usage. And so -- but we -- as customers depending on where they're situated, where their outlook is, we're obviously coming alongside them to talk about how we can participate in helping them grow their business.

So yes, that's a very active part of the PPP forgiveness process. And with respect to themes of the loan growth and so forth, the thing that I'm encouraged by is that there's a fair amount of diversity across, not only the markets because both Twin Cities, Colorado, Florida and Iowa City, but also in terms of the types of deals that we're seeing.

So I mean there's certainly CRE deals and so forth, but I also see some nonprofit opportunities in those numbers. And I see a nice kind of mix where we're not becoming -- we're not running the risk of any kind of concentration there. So that part feels good to me and that's what I see in our pipeline as well..

Charles Funk

Terry, I think Gary may have something to add..

Terence McEvoy

Perfect. Perfect. Great..

Gary Sims Senior Vice President & Chief Credit Officer

Terry, I was going to just reinforce what Len is saying and seeing in the marketplace. I think a general theme that I'm seeing from the credit side is that the activity around utilization of capital is increasing. In other words, people are getting off the sidelines and starting to make decisions about deploying capital.

And it's really happening on both the buy side and the sell side. And I think that's really what Charlie was saying earlier relative to the paydowns could add pressure to our loan growth. I think that's what's driving that is we have customers that are making sell decisions and we have customers that are making buy decision.

So it's really increasing the activity in the marketplace..

Terence McEvoy

Okay. And then just as a follow-up. On the mortgage business, in the release, it said it's still operating above normal. I'm just wondering, on a quarterly run rate basis, is normal something closer to, call it, $2 million.

And then if that's the case, how do I think about the expense adjustment in a lower mortgage revenue environment?.

Barry Ray

Yes. If we look back -- this is Barry, Terry. With respect to gain on sale dollars, I would say, maybe I go back to the second quarter of last year, for example, $2 million would have been the rate about where we were running. So -- and then add on top of that, the servicing income. And then obviously, a big wildcard is the servicing right adjustments.

But -- and then most of our -- the costs associated with our mortgage business, there is a variable nature to it that you're alluding to. And I would probably reduce that -- I would probably reduce that cost pro rata with respect to any reduction that you make in the revenue..

Operator

Our next question comes from Damon DelMonte with KBW..

Damon DelMonte

I hope everybody is doing well today. So my first question, kind of looking at the credit trends, obviously, continuing to do quite well there and reflective with the second quarter in a row of a provisionary capture.

How should we think about the back half of the year? Do you think that the reserve is adequate enough where you could see further release given these trends continuing?.

Gary Sims Senior Vice President & Chief Credit Officer

Damon, Gary here. I'll start to answer that question as well.

What you're seeing in the portfolio and even more specifically in the reserve is really the culmination of how we've been proactive in managing our portfolio through the pandemic, and you monitored with us as we increased criticizing classified and NPA previously and really that proactiveness has created the resolutions that you're seeing today and the positive trends that you're seeing today.

And all of that is resulting in the provision releases that you're seeing today. And as Charlie was saying earlier, I think you're going to continue to see the positive trends in the assets in the credit portfolio. And that will create -- I'm going to call it a bias towards continuing to moderate our reserve on a go-forward basis..

Damon DelMonte

Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess just a quick question here on expenses, probably for Barry.

You guys -- from the commentary, I take you, you're kind of comfortable here in this upper $28 million range is a good run rate going forward?.

Barry Ray

Yes, Damon, this is Barry. Yes, there were -- as Charlie alluded to, there were a few puts and takes, but I think the range that we had for this particular quarter on our expense run rate is a really good representation of what we think near-term run rate can be..

Operator

. Our next question comes from Brian Martin with Janney Montgomery..

Brian Martin

Guys, just wanted to ask you on the -- maybe Jim, back to the core margin for a minute.

I guess just given your comments about the volume, the origination volume, replacing the PPP and holding the margin, I mean, I guess, given Charlie's comments about the pipeline, I mean, I guess, would your expectation be that kind of based on what the current pipeline looks like that, that's possible, I guess? Or is it that maybe volume is not enough? And if that volume is not enough, I guess, you could see a little drift lower on the core margin kind of ex the PPP and accretion number?.

James Cantrell

I think you've hit on the mechanics of it. I think you're right. They could drift a little lower. Like I said, we have $184 million of PPP unforgiven loans on the balance sheet as of the end of the quarter. Depending on the pace of those -- and we will spend some money to pay off some wholesale funding along the way.

But unfortunately, there's not a lot of wholesale funding, it's maybe $10 million or $15 million a quarter is what we've got left. So we'll spend some money on that, and we'll spend some money on loan production. And to the extent it's offset by that PPP forgiveness, it's kind of a balancing act.

It is certainly possible that PPP outrun -- forgiveness outruns loan production. But as I said, for the last 45 days, 2 months, it's been pretty even. So that's sort of what I'm basing my forecast on is what we've seen over the last couple of months..

Brian Martin

Got you. Okay. And then just -- I'm not sure for who on the PPP, the -- I appreciate the commentary about the pickup here.

Just should we think about the remaining fees and the forgiveness kind of the bulk of that occurs in the second half here that the remaining fees are all collected here? Is that fair to think about based on the pace of activity and what you're seeing currently? Or do you think there's still some bleed into next year?.

Barry Ray

Brian, this is Barry. The fact pattern that you just outlined is kind of what we would expect, I would say. However, it's very difficult for us to triangulate on the timing of what the SBA is going to do. And so for example, I would say the PPP round 1 forgiveness slowed down whenever they had PPP round 2.

And so there's a lot of -- there could be uncertainty in the timing. We expect the latter half of this year to be a larger volume of PPP forgiveness and perhaps completely, but it could very well be some amount that trickles into 2022..

Gary Sims Senior Vice President & Chief Credit Officer

Yes, that's fair, Brian. This is Gary. Most but probably not all in the latter half..

Brian Martin

Okay. Perfect. And I don't know if it's maybe for Barry. Just that comment earlier about just kind of the fee income -- the kind of the level of mortgage is core. Just when you think about if mortgage does normalize, to Charlie's point about maybe the wealth side, getting some benefits from the people you've hired.

I mean is it fair to think about a $9 million type of run rate is kind of where we think about these are as you kind of normalize maybe after next quarter with mortgage and then building from there? Is that fair, Barry, or how....

Barry Ray

Yes. The range that I have in my mind, Brian, for the fee income in total is about 8.5 to 9.5 in the near term..

Brian Martin

Got you. Okay.

And then just remind me, Barry, what -- the remaining accretion to bring through, where does that stand today? I think the amount this quarter was 800 or 900?.

Barry Ray

For the loan purchase discount?.

Brian Martin

Yes..

Barry Ray

Yes, June 30, Brian, that was $7 million is what's left..

Brian Martin

Okay.

And just remind me the timing of how you think that plays out, I guess?.

Barry Ray

I think it's -- I think it's going to play out similarly to what we've observed with respect to the notion of the quarterly accretion is recognized more upfront, and we've seen that fact pattern play out. And so the amount that we recognized this quarter, which yes, I think it was, what, $800,000 or so.

I anticipate that it will -- future quarters will be that and then lower..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Charlie Funk for any closing remarks..

Charles Funk

Thanks to everyone who joined us this morning. For those who need further clarification on the earnings release, please contact any one of us, and we'll be responsive to your inquiries. And with that, we wish everyone a good day and a good weekend, and back to you, Eiley..

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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