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Financial Services - Asset Management - NASDAQ - US
$ 25.3
-0.315 %
$ 67.5 M
Market Cap
-17.69
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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q3
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Executives

Joe Alala - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jack McGlinn - Chief Operating Officer, Treasurer, and Secretary Steve Arnall - Chief Financial Officer.

Analysts

Ryan Lynch - KBW Christopher Nolan - Ladenburg Thalmann.

Operator

At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Capitala Finance Corp’s Conference Call for the Quarter Ending September 30, 2017. All participations are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the Company’s formal remarks.

Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available approximately three hours after the conclusion of the call on the Company's Web site at www.capitalagroup.com under the Investor Relations section.

The hosts for today's call are Capitala Finance Corp’s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Joe Alala; Chief Operating Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Jack McGlinn; and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Arnall. Capitala Finance Corp issued a press release on November 6, 2017 with details of the Company's quarterly financial and operating results.

A copy of the press release is available on the Company's Web site. In addition, the Company posted a prerecorded podcast of its quarterly results November 6, 2017 on its Web site.

Please note that this call contains forward-looking statements that provide information, other than historical information, including statements regarding the Company's goals, beliefs, strategies, future operating results and cash flows.

Although, the Company believes that these statements are reasonable, actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements.

These statements are based on various underlying assumptions and are subject to numerous uncertainties and risks, including those disclosed under the sections titled Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements in the Company's Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q. Capitala undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements.

At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to Joe Alala..

Joe Alala

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I'm actually dialing in from Berlin, Germany, but I've Steve and Jack that are in Charlotte in case something happens to my line here. In our second quarter earnings call, we outlined the priorities of the management and our Board of Directors.

Those priorities are; improving net asset value per share; generate a net investment income that will exceed our quarterly distributions; reduce the level of non-performing investments; monetize equity positions; rotate into yield, grow earnings; invest in first lien unitranche opportunities in the low rental market to capture better risk adjusted returns.

Yesterday, we released our results for the third quarter of 2017. I would like to take a moment to provide you an update on our progress towards these aforementioned goals. Net asset value per share declined by approximately 5%, mostly related to unrealized depreciation from one of our non-performing investment.

Net investment income for the third quarter was $0.28 per share. On October 2nd, we announced our fourth quarter 2017 distribution of $0.25 per share. We fully understand the need to consistently cover distributions with net investment income.

The reduction in our fourth quarter distribution, as noted in our announcement, accounts for a shift in our investment strategy to more senior secured and unitranche loans with lower yields and lower risks, and less unsecured and mezzanine loans with higher yield and higher risk.

We reduced non-accrual loans during the period through the restructuring of two investments; Sierra Hamilton and Kelly's Transport Services. We anticipate additional reductions in non-accrual balances over the coming quarters.

During the quarter, we received $1.5 million distribution from our equity warrants in B&W Quality Growers, generating a realized gain of $1.5 million. We continue to pursue additional equity exits in an effort to rotate the proceeds into debt securities, thus increasing BDC earnings.

During the quarter, we invested $7.1 million in the first lien debt and $1 million in the equity of CIS Secure Computing Inc. We have significant liquidity and dry powder to be active investors in the lower middle market. Our pipeline remains robust.

However, we are being disciplined from an underwriting standpoint as we may be approaching the later stages of a credit cycle. I would like to point out, this is the second quarter of 2016, 78% of all of debt dollars invested in the first lien structures, validating the change in the investment focus of the firm.

And with that, operator, we will open up the line for questions..

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions]. Our first question is from the line of Ryan Lynch of KBW. Your line is open..

Ryan Lynch

First one, you mentioned significant liquidity and dry powder to continuing to invest in the middle market. When I look at your leverage ratio, you guys have a total debt to equity of about 1.28 times and a regulatory debt to equity, which is what really kind of governs your growth, of 0.54 times.

So I just wanted to know where do you guys -- where do you see these leverage ratios going? Are you guys comfortable with taking total -- forget about regulatory leverage for a minute, but the total debt to equity of 1.28 times.

Are you guys comfortable with taking this number significantly higher?.

Steve Arnall

Ryan, this is Steve. I think, as you just look at the global picture of liquidity and dry powder, first we've got $50 million at the end of the quarter. The majority of that being in the SBIC subs. And we certainly expect to utilize those dollars to be active investing in debt equity and securities.

And as noted, our senior secured line was paid to zero at the end of September, gives us $140 million available. But to your point, we certainly would never anticipate growing all that, from the leverage standpoint.

As we look at regulatory leverage at 0.5x, we've talked about previous quarters and years that we would not want to be pushing that regulatory ratio up anywhere north of 0.8, so somewhere in the 0.75 range is probably an optimal level from a performance standpoint.

As far as where that takes the total leverage ratio, yes, we'd be comfortable moving that up a little, but not to the point where the regulatory ratio would go above 0.75..

Ryan Lynch

And then as I look at your portfolio, you guys had discussed moving up the capital structure, which should create some safer results in the future, hopefully less losses. But part of that, you have to give up a yield. And if I look at your guys current portfolio yield, debt investment yield, on page 16 your slide deck, it's about 12.9.

If I look at page six of your slide deck, you guys have your year-to-date originations those have a yield of about 10.5. So new originations in 2017, however, about 200 basis points lower than your current portfolio yields show.

Should we continue to expect your overall portfolio yield of 12.9 to basically merge and trend lower to that 10.5, 11-ish mark, going forward?.

Joe Alala

Ryan, this is Joe. We have done a very good job, I believe of moving our strategy since second quarter of 2016. We have lowered some of the yields, but you also need to look at the Q4 yield of '16, a lot of those were in first lien unitranche. They were materially higher than 10%.

But I do think with this strategy, we will probably lose 150 to 250 basis points on yield. But we'll be in a much better structure and we'll have much better covenants and controls of those credits. So we will sacrifice yield to be in a better structure and we've been doing that since Q2 2016.

If you look on the deals we've done since Q2 2016, we're not having any credit weaknesses in those deals..

Steve Arnall

Very good structures, underlying credits performing very well..

Ryan Lynch

And yes, I definitely agree, it is always better to give up yield and not stretch on credit. I mean, ultimately, I think that generates better long term results even if it's sacrificing yields today and saving credit losses in the future. You mentioned part of your strategy is to monetize some equity investments.

I mean you guys have a very large portion of your portfolio today in equity investments, some warrants I mean, some pure equity co-investments. What is your ability to actually exit some of these equity investments versus you guys basically having to wait along and hope that these companies are sold and that'll allow you to actually basically.

Is there a large percentage of your equity portfolio that you guys can be proactive and actually exit out of it so off?.

Joe Alala

On a global comment, most of these positions are not controlled positions. So it's very hard for us just to monetize those on a unilateral decision. Having said that, we're constantly searching for ways to try to monetize these positions. The good news is that equity -- I think it's around 22%. The cost base is about half of that.

So these are appreciated equity positions but we are constantly looking at ways to monetize those, either selling back to the company, selling to a third party with the company's consent, maybe selling strip of them. We're constantly looking at those, try to monetize those because that will really enhance our earnings going forward.

But to just unilaterally make a decision to sell those, we're not in that position amongst all of those deals. But we are actively seeking for exits for those equity positions..

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions]. Our next question is from Christopher Nolan of Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open..

Christopher Nolan

Velum Global Credit Management at first at the end of December, it's a 15% PIK.

Any issues with that credit, and should we expect 2018 large jump in cash balances when it matures?.

Joe Alala

Chris, we’ve trouble hearing you.

Can you repeat that, it was garbled?.

Christopher Nolan

Velum Global Credit at 15% PIK, it matures at the end of the year.

Should we expect to take jump in cash balances, because it's a big investment when it matures?.

Joe Alala

I mean, we're actively in conversations with them about whether we need to extend that or not. So that's playing out as we speak..

Christopher Nolan

And then the reason for the extension would be?.

Joe Alala

Just the nature of the investment and the underlying assets there, and we need more time..

Christopher Nolan

And then second question, the tax provision of $2.6 million that generate a deferred tax liability of $2.6 million.

Is it correct to say that if tax reform goes through that will be impact to book value per share?.

Joe Alala

I think that's premature to get to -- to make that conclusion, but possibly..

Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions, at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Joe Alala for any further remarks..

Joe Alala

Thank you everybody for participating in the call. We are around, especially Steve and Jack are in Charlotte all day, if you want to call and have some more direct conversations. So thank you and we look forward to the next earnings call..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude today's program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day..

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