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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2022 - Q4
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Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Canoo Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Release Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Kunal Bhalla, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development and Capital Markets. Thank you. You may begin..

Kunal Bhalla

Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to Canoo's quarterly earnings conference call. Today, I have with me Investor, Chairman and CEO, Tony Aquila; along with CFO, Ken Manget; and CAO, Ramesh Murthy. Tony will provide an update on the business. Ken will then run through our capital raise strategy. And Ramesh will share the financial results for the quarter.

We will then open the call up for questions. Please be advised we may make forward-looking statements based on current expectations. These are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially.

For a discussion of factors that could affect our future financial results and business, please refer to the disclosure in today's earnings release and on our most recent Form 10-Q and 10-K and other reports that we may file with the SEC, including Form 8-Ks.

All of our statements are made as of today and are based on information currently available to us. Except as required by law, we assume no obligation to update any such statements. During this call, we'll discuss non-GAAP financial measures.

You can find the reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures in today's earnings release, which can be found on the IR section of our website. Now, please navigate to the webcast landing page and access the video link towards the bottom left of the page. We will pause briefly while we watch the video.

As many of you already know, our discipline is big news or no news. This means we're focused on meaningful milestones and impactful news. We're focused on long-term growth and value creation for all our stakeholders. Turning it over to Tony to talk about some big news, but not old news. Over to you, Tony..

Tony Aquila

Thank you, Kunal, and thank you, everyone, for joining us for our Q4 and full year 2022 results. Before getting into it, I'd like to thank all our associates for their hard work and dedication to our mission. We are pushing the envelope on technology, innovation and what an EV means to consumers and fleets.

That requires a specific mindset, skill set and focus on milestones. As we continue our journey to create a high-tech advanced mobility company in an extremely volatile macroeconomic climate. I'd like to recap some of our significant achievements during the last year.

If you look at the steps that we have taken since I became CEO, we immediately jumped in and started the verification and realignment of the strategy. I'd like to sincerely thank our believers, all stakeholders that hung in there with us while we have worked through the transition.

And to those that were focused on headlines, they can now focus on the milestones achieved. As you can see in our earnings release, we have now reached a conclusion on the SEC investigation. The resolution includes an agreement to pay $1.5 million.

Our agreement with the staff still needs to be approved by the commission itself, something we hope will happen in the next few weeks. This ends a significant chapter from the Company's past management and paves the way for us to focus entirely on the work of our refounding.

Our entire management team continues to work hard to address all legacy issues and the sacrifice for shareholders is not lost upon us. The transition from legacy Canoo to today has been expensive for our associates and all stakeholders as reflected in the price of our shares. Legacy matters have been a big distraction.

And as we continue to eliminate these legacy matters, it only increases our ability and efficiency in achieving future milestones. And we are increasingly excited about the direction of the company.

I'd like to remind everyone that as the largest shareholder and long-term-focused investor, we invest continuously on many levels to help de-risk the business and increase its opportunities for success. Our just-in-time discipline has helped us become more efficient, especially during the realignment.

However, it has added more complexity as we and others access the capital markets in the current market conditions. We see this as a portion of the long-term cycle, but just a portion of accessing the capital markets. Our aim is consistent with the long-term investors view.

It's to look back at the strategy with the goal of having managed a better return on capital dilution and total value creation. We led the charge by alerting investors about the risk factors that the EV industry faces, not only to talk about the opportunities and advantages, which are great.

As we have shown, we have signed up world-class customers, and we will continue to focus on our three-stage customer engagement model and on growing a solid customer pipeline. We have remained focused on event and milestone-driven just-in-time capital raises as we work to put the legacy and the realignment of the business behind us.

We will now enter the next phase. And that phase, we'll be more focused on milestones versus event-based or just-in-time. This will lower the cost, make more efficient use of capital and allow us to focus on long-term sources. We navigated the volatile economic environment in 2022 with a mixed view of our performance, as we reflect back.

But let us walk you through the key milestones. U.S. manufacturing and job creation, we believe there -- as you know, we led the charge to bring jobs and manufacturing to the U.S.

heartland, which we are very proud of; completed our Phase 1 SOP in Michigan; announced vehicle manufacturing facility in Oklahoma City; and kicked off Phase 2 SOP OKC, including establishing an EV battery module manufacturing facility in Pryor, Oklahoma.

Partnering with the state of Oklahoma and the Cherokee Nation to establish workforce training programs, committed to hiring up to 550 employees to support our manufacturing ramp as we scale production. IP protection. We reduced our resilience on China by focusing on U.S. and allied nation source components.

We had previously stepped in to lead the share purchase from the Chinese investor to address the serious concerns and the settlement, mitigating potential IP leakage risk. We also focused on BOM optimization, the build of materials, reduced cart counts to under 1,800 parts, one of the lowest per EV vehicles. We reduced supply chain risk.

This will come further into focus as we begin manufacturing and delivering vehicles. We believe there is still more room to optimize and achieve on a continuous basis. Fleet sales. [Technical Difficulty] thousands of vehicles, orders has been our strategy. And our product has received multiple points of validation.

Now, we're very proud to have customers like Walmart, Zeeba, Kingbee, recently Schindler Elevator and CBRE to add to the names of our customer partners. Our product is being well received in the market, and we are excited to help electrify the working fleets in America and beyond. American innovation. We delivered the U.S.

Army light tactical vehicle, the LTV. We achieved in order to deliver the LTV, and we did it in 101 days. This validates our highly modular platform architecture and our ability to rapidly develop specific use cases. These actions have been supported by both current and past administrations.

The IRA bill is validation of our strategy and provides a strong tailwind. For commercial vehicles placed into service in 2023, Canoo fleet customers will benefit from the maximum allowed credit of $7,500 per unit. Under new IRA sourcing rules, most vehicles don't qualify for the consumer credit.

This validates the realignment of our strategy to first focus on large fleet and government use cases. As we stand here today and reflect, we struggled and underestimated the complexity of some of our milestones, especially taking into account the legacy impacts and the macroeconomic backdrop.

We struggled with the transition and timely resourcing of components as we shifted away from China exposure. Delays in bringing up onshore manufacturing. We over, under and mishired in certain areas. Timing and cost of capital being de-synchronized with the realignment of the strategy was also a constraining factor.

As we start to put the legacy matters behind us, we will be better focused on our future. Let us walk you through some of our strategy and recent milestones. Our capital-raising strategy is maturing, especially as we remove legacy matters like the SEC overhang, which improves our access to low-cost, long-term non-dilutive capital.

We have all been through a lot these last 16 months, and some of us even longer.

As we continue to mature, migrating from an R&D design and premarket delivery to a manufacturing and market launch organization, hitting these milestones will better help us manage the current market turbulence based on our growing track record of achieving important milestones.

The shift from R&D design and premarket delivery to manufacturing and market launch will come with some organizational changes and risks.

On the good side, our cost per FTE is going down as a result of changes in our mix as we align with our continuing R&D becoming more focused on certain segments like customer innovation and fleet, government, military, Department of Defense and very specific geographic expansion markets.

We are fortunate that our realignment allows us to be one of the first to access the benefits of our -- for our customers and ourselves in the newly implemented IRA bill. Now, let me share some of the fourth quarter and recent highlights. We received 217-mile EPA certification for the LDV, which we will continue to focus on improving.

This is already up to 50% higher than what is targeted by many of those in our customer base. Further, our advanced deliveries with Walmart proved excellent range and retention in triple-digit heat and below freezing temperature conditions. We remain persistent in making our vehicles among the most durable and reliable.

We now have a $2.8 billion order book. We had 5% growth over the last quarter and 323% growth since this time last year. Others have been flat or declining. We continue to see strong demand for our product, and it's a tribute to the hard work of our design, manufacturing, engineering and customer journey teams. So, we're very proud.

The initial phase of the international expansion, we announced that with GCC Olayan as our distribution partner in Saudi Arabia. We will share and make more clear how our geographic expansion strategy aligns with our North American strategy in the coming quarters.

Oklahoma City manufacturing readiness continues to progress, and we remain focused on exiting 2023 at a 20,000 run rate. General assembly lines have arrived at OKC. Other equipment is being put in place. Highly automated, high-speed battery line has arrived at the Pryor facility. We will update you on the progress in the coming weeks and quarters.

IP monetization. The U.S. Department of Defense has awarded us a battery systems and technology contract currently for advanced testing in multiple environments. This additional use of our technology speaks to the TEM, technology equipment manufacturer, versus an OEM, which is an original manufacturer -- original equipment manufacturer.

And the versatility of multiple different layers of our technology that can be scalable and adaptable to important and emerging use cases and markets. We continue strengthening the management team. We announced Ken Manget as CFO and added Tony Elias as our EVP of Operations.

Ken and Tony in their respective areas bring a wealth of experience in capital raising, strategic finance and manufacturing. Ken will introduce himself shortly and provide an update with Ramesh on the results and financial guidance. And now I'd like to take this time to introduce Ken..

Ken Manget

I'm very pleased to be with you all today. I've spent time most of my career in multiple areas of the capital markets, first in the sell side, where structured billions of equity and debt capital raises, including non-dilutive financing for major automotive OEMs.

Subsequently, I was at Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, where I first met Tony while managing a $10 billion global equity strategy that invested in growth equity, pre-IPO and public companies. I'm excited to leverage my years of a diverse perspective and experience with the team at Canoo.

The timing of becoming -- in is to focus on Canoo's transition from engineering and R&D to scale manufacturing. My mission is to be better focused on better aligning our capital needs and capital sources as we shift more towards a milestone basis.

I've hit the ground running, and I'm actively working with the team on finalizing our 2023-2024 diversified capital plan. I recently led our first registered direct offering of $52.5 million that was oversubscribed. As in this raise, we focused on allocating to improve the diversification of our shareholder base.

I will now be picking up the mission of moving us from a just-in-time capital raise strategy to what Tony described before, which is a more milestone-driven strategy. My focus in this quarter will be to better align capital efforts with the coming online of manufacturing across the supply base.

We will continue to carefully manage our cash and improve efficiency of capital allocation until we implement our more aligned capital strategy. Ramesh will now walk through the results..

Ramesh Murthy

OpEx, $55 million to $70 million; and capital expenditures, $30 million to $45 million. Turning it back to Kunal..

Kunal Bhalla

Thanks, Tony, Ken and Ramesh. We're excited about 2023 as we scale our production and begin deliveries of our product to all our customers. Operator, please open the line for questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright..

Amit Dayal

Just to begin with, Tony, could you give us or remind us, I guess, what the production and delivery targets for 2023 are?.

Operator

Speaker, you may be muted. We can't hear you..

Tony Aquila

Yes. Sorry about that. We were muted. I apologize. Yes. With respect to that, we have focused on a 20,000 run rate exit, and we'll be fine-tuning that with our customers as to what the deliveries will be in the quarters.

But right now, we're just -- to be cautious with everybody, we know with a lot more certainty than we do on a weekly basis as we ramp things up or a quarterly basis, we know with strong confidence that we can exit the year at a 20,000 run rate based on the delivery schedules and the installation schedules of all the equipment..

Amit Dayal

And then, in terms of sort of the activity that is happening at the facilities right now, would you say you are at like 70%, 80% preparedness or maybe even sort of at a higher number relative to being able to start some initial production activity?.

Tony Aquila

So yes, we did some initial SOP Phase 1, which tested the robotics and a whole bunch of activities in Michigan. We then now torn down the majority of all that, those items, and we relocated them to Oklahoma City. So they're already programmed and tested.

There are some new pieces that have arrived that have been tested, for example, the battery line at the manufacturer. We now have to put that up and test it. But I would say, from items on the ground, we're probably somewhere in the 65%-ish range of items on the ground, probably at north of 85% with what's inbound.

And we have a few areas where we are working on manual workflows or semi-manual workflows where we have some vendors, which are taking a little bit longer and need longer lead time. But we found workflow around that, which gave us the confidence to put the stake in the ground about a 20,000 unit run rate..

Amit Dayal

Thank you.

And then just adjacent to that, in terms of production folks and people on the floor, just the folks who will be putting all this, in terms of hiring them, are you already starting that activity?.

Tony Aquila

Yes..

Amit Dayal

And do you feel confident about finding the right people for these things? I mean, there's a lot of headline about jobs, et cetera, right now, but just wondering how you are positioned in terms of your hiring needs..

Tony Aquila

Yes. Look, I'd say where we sit today based on the fact that we studied the labor shed now for multiple years on Oklahoma and we've kind of zigzagged a little bit by diversifying our risk from being concentrated only in Pryor, Oklahoma to now splitting it to Oklahoma City and Pryor, our confidence comes up.

We've partnered with the Cherokee Nation in the state of Oklahoma to focus on better ways to train and give people opportunities. We feel good about the labor shed. I think what we still got to work through is just that first ramp of associates. Now, the new facility we have, it already has a completed training center.

We need to equip it, but we'll be using AI tools. And with respect to your question on hiring, I think like most of the early manufacturers, I think we upgraded our manufacturing team a bit earlier in the process. And -- because you come to different phases of needs, the people have performed great tasks.

But now, we're bringing in teams that have experience at scale. And we're doing it as we step into the 20,000, 40,000, 60,000 run rate and above, trying to get ahead, trying to learn from what some of our peers experienced with, if you will, bringing it up to scale..

Amit Dayal

Just one last one for me, maybe for Ken. In terms of the non-dilutive financing options, what options do you have in front of you? Any color on that would be helpful..

Ken Manget

Yes. We expect to be discussing that in the coming quarter or two. We're exploring a number of diversified funding sources, which leveraged some of the background I was describing earlier..

Tony Aquila

I can add to that as well. For example, we couldn't -- prior to getting some of the legacy matters addressed, especially with respect to the SEC, we couldn't actually file for things like in the Department of Energy loan program and things of that nature.

Now, our opportunities are exponential for us to access capital as we start to establish this management team's track record..

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Irwin with ROTH MKM..

Unidentified Analyst

Hey. It's Andrew on for Craig here. Thanks for taking my question. And just a quick one for me. Great news to see the -- over 300% growth in orders this year.

I was wondering if you could just kind of give a little bit more detail on maybe where you're seeing strength in demand, what segments, mix, order size, just anything additionally that you could share would be great. Thank you..

Tony Aquila

Yes. Sure. So look, our orders have been around the Grade A, BBB credit type customers because we know that's going to reduce our cost of capital. But in addition to that, we focused on customers that have unique workflows and for us to meet those workflows, so we can get multiyear long-term orders.

And these are generally higher margin because the customer gets a very good return on capital, and they're higher margin for us as well. So, the mix has been primarily focused around the LDV with limited units of the LV and primarily large, medium-sized fleets.

We are working to figure out the allocation we can do of the orders and the order book to the small and more individual users.

So, we get distribution to some of them, but we'll be doing it on a very concentrated rollout so we don't also have the same problems that some of the other companies had with mass rollout of their vehicles because you do have to anticipate some service, maintenance, repair, support items.

We come out of this area from our past as well and built a great team that has worked for us before that is leading that initiative. So, I think very concentrated, large orders, get our book up to where the credit rating is really good as we look at some of those non-dilutive financing items that we'll be announcing in the coming quarters..

Operator

And our next question comes from Jaime Perez with R.F. Lafferty..

Jaime Perez

Tony, do you have any update on the Walmart order as far as how is that going along?.

Tony Aquila

Going along fine. In fact, they're here today working with us. We've got a pretty robust delivery schedule. Actually, we're trying to taper it back just a little bit so we can distribute some other customers as well. They've been an amazing partner for us to work with.

And we'll be delivering vehicles to them as per the schedule that they will announce shortly as well as part of their bigger fleet strategy. So, everything is moving at or above what our original expectations were. And that's probably all that's appropriate for me to say right now..

Jaime Perez

All right. Fair enough. Yes. I think that's all the questions I have for tonight. Thanks a lot..

Tony Aquila

No worries..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James..

Pavel Molchanov

Now that we're 100 days into the Inflation Reduction Act commercial EV incentive, the first tax credit, is it too early to say how much effect is it having on demand? Is it stimulating the market the way it was supposed to?.

Tony Aquila

I think actually, it's -- for the big companies, it's more of a business target and a target for business performance. So, it really -- it's just been extra additive. But for the medium-sized businesses, it's kind of -- it's a tipping point decision. It's actually helped. And we didn't really even cover within the pipeline.

But there's a tremendous amount of companies that have emerged because now it's really affordable for them to enter into this as they navigate some of the charging issues and other things. So, the Inflation Reduction Act is super additive to helping the customers that are -- have more difficulty in the transition, if that makes sense..

Pavel Molchanov

Right. Yes, it absolutely does. I mean, I guess maybe the counterbalancing variable is that oil prices and gasoline and diesel have fallen to the lowest levels in about 1.5-year.

Is that a headwind at all to the adoption curve as you talk to prospective customers?.

Tony Aquila

Yes. I think it would be for those companies that are focused on selling 1 or 2 at a time because it's immediate return on capital versus kind of, if you will, your greenhouse gas emission targets and so on. I think for the bigger companies, that's a marginal issue.

And the life -- because they look at the long life of the vehicle, the total cost of ownership and return on capital, these are just better platforms as we proved with thousands of miles of testing and deliveries. I mean, these are -- so we know the outcome of the math.

Right now, it's still very positive for us, looking at on a return on capital from a long-term basis. So, those customers are still steaming ahead. But to your point, I would imagine for the small, small business, which we have not focused on the individual user basis at this time, I would imagine that they are slowing down..

Pavel Molchanov

When you think about a payback period for, let's say, the LDV right now, what are we looking at, like, 4 or 5 years, something like that?.

Tony Aquila

It depends on how they use it. With the fact that our range is now 50% greater than what most of our customers, not all but most of our customers are requiring, they actually can get a lot more return on capital, which accelerates the amount of deliveries they can do on a daily basis as we see these bigger customers emerging.

And so, the payback period can be, depending on them, as soon as 3.5 years..

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes today's question-and-answer session as well as today's conference call. All parties may disconnect. Have a great day..

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