image
Consumer Cyclical - Apparel - Manufacturers - NASDAQ - US
$ 30.33
-1.49 %
$ 1.33 B
Market Cap
7.64
P/E
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q4
image
Executives

Morris Goldfarb - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Neal Nackman - Chief Financial Officer Sammy Aaron - Vice Chairman Wayne Miller - Chief Operating Officer Jeff Goldfarb - Director, Strategic Planning.

Analysts

Bridgette Taylor - Barclays Erinn Murphy - Piper Jaffray Ed Yruma - KeyBanc Capital Rick Patel - Stephens Inc. David Glick - Buckingham Research John Kernan - Cowen.

Operator

Welcome to the G-III Apparel Group Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2015 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lorraine and I will be your operator for today’s call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I will now turn the call over to Mr. Neal Nackman. Mr. Nackman, you may begin..

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that certain statements made on today’s call and in the Q&A session may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws.

Forward-looking statements are not guarantees and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in forward-looking statements. Important factors that could cause actual results of operations or the financial condition of the company to differ are discussed in the documents filed by the company with the SEC.

The company undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements. In addition, during the call we will refer to non-GAAP net income per share and to adjusted EBITDA, which are both non-GAAP financial measures. We have provided reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP measures in our press release and on our website.

I will now turn the call over to our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Morris Goldfarb..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full year. With me today on the call are Sammy Aaron, our Vice Chairman; Wayne Miller, our Chief Operating Officer; Neal Nackman, our Chief Financial Officer; and Jeff Goldfarb, our Director of Strategic Planning. Fiscal 2015 was another record year for G-III.

Our wholesale business performed well. Our retail business achieved strong gains and built momentum over the course of the fourth quarter. This momentum includes the GH Bass business now integrated effectively with our retail operations. We have positioned our business well for growth in fiscal 2016 and beyond. Here are some of our operating highlights.

First, with respect to the fourth quarter, we grew sales by 9% to a record level of $514 million. Adjusted net income per diluted share was $0.98 in this year’s fourth quarter. This was up 58% compared to $0.62 per share in last year’s fourth quarter. All of our wholesale categories performed well at retail.

We managed our inventory well and we are in good shape going into spring. Our merchandising initiatives in our own retail businesses have been effective and drove solid comparable store sales in Bass and Wilsons in the fourth quarter. Before I go into more detail about the fourth quarter, I will provide you with a few highlights for the fiscal year.

In 2015, we grew our full year sales by 23% to $2.1 billion, nearly $400 million of growth. A little less than half of this growth was from our GH Bass acquisition and the remainder was from broad-based organic growth.

We maintained our profitability and grew our full year adjusted EBITDA by 27% to $187 million compared to $146 million in the prior year. Our adjusted net income per diluted share was $4.54, an increase of 21% compared to the $3.74 last year. We are very pleased with these results.

Across the business, our teams continue to execute well in every key area, including design, merchandising, sales, operations, marketing and finance. As I have spoken in the past, our key differentiating characteristics, that enables the kind of performance year-in, year-out is our corporate culture. We do not make excuses and will not accept failure.

We strive for operational excellence and make continuous improvements in everything we do. Importantly, continuity of our management team in many cases with more than 15 years employment with G-III provides us with the ability to focus and execute well on our long-term strategic plans. Let me take you through our businesses in a bit more detail.

Outerwear which is a relatively mature and highly diversified business for us achieved plan for the year. We were pleased with the performance of each of our brands for men and women. Standouts in the women’s area were Calvin Klein and Andrew Marc, Kenneth Cole, Tommy Hilfiger, Cole Haan and Jessica Simpson.

Standouts in the men’s area were Calvin Klein, Tommy Hilfiger and Levis. Additionally our team sports business also finished another good year. Outerwear inventories at retail are clean which will be helpful when it comes time to plan the business for the 2015 fall-winter season this year. Our sportswear business saw good growth again this year.

Our Calvin Klein better sportswear collection and Calvin Klein active performance drove the majority of that growth and each are now in over 1,000 doors. We did sacrifice some margin to meet our top line performance expectations in this environment, but the businesses remain healthy. Kensie, our contemporary sportswear business performed to plan.

While sportswear can be a challenging category, we have executed well and developed the strong capability. We intend to continue to grow our presence in the category. With our existing brands we expect to see increased penetration in existing doors, supplemented by what we believe is a significant door count growth opportunity.

We now do approximately $300 million in sales between Calvin Klein better sportswear, Calvin Klein active performance and Kensie sportswear. Our dress businesses had another strong year and performed well in the fourth quarter. Calvin Klein continued to be the key dress brand in our mix. Eliza J was also outstanding.

In addition Jessica Howard and Jessica Simpson achieved their sales plans and both had increases in gross margins. Lastly our Vince Camuto dresses experienced growth in both sales and gross margin. We expect to have another strong dress year in 2015.

Our Calvin Klein women’s suit business also had another very good year and our business in the category has grown to approximately $100 million. We will look to maintain our leadership position in this area focused on margin with our existing business and are considering rolling out other suit brands.

Our handbag and cold weather accessories business also wrapped up the year with good performance. We have grown this business to almost $100 million since starting it 3 years ago. We are just getting started and we are increasingly confident in our potential to double the business.

We now have 15 shop-in-shops and plan to increase that number to 45 by the year end. Our investment in shop-in-shops show a particularly high return in this area, in some cases by as much as 30% increase in sales. In handbags and cold weather accessories we also have an opportunity to deepen penetration, add doors and add brands.

Before we talk about our retail business, I want to take a few minutes to review our GH Bass wholesale and licensing initiatives. We believe these are meaningful opportunities. We have launched a new women’s wholesale collection for this upcoming fall season. You may have seen some blitz trade advertising recently in women’s wear daily.

We put together a great collection and the great – and we are getting great encouraging responses from our retail partners. On the licensing front I would like to mention that PVH has been doing a great job as our men’s wholesale apparel licensee. Also Overland based in the UK has launched GH Bass shoes in Europe.

Bass shoes will be prominently displayed at this late in Europe’s premier retailers such as Selfridges and Harrods. Overland is excited about the potential of the business and is also looking into opening Bass retail stores in the near future. In addition, we are excited to have just signed Genesco to be our U.S. licensee partner for Bass.

Beginning in 2016 to design and distribute men’s and women’s wholesale shoes, Genesco is an outstanding company with a solid track record and we think this will be a great partnership. The wholesale and the licensing opportunities with GH Bass are incremental to the retail opportunity, which is powerful.

The GH Bass retail business following a year-long process is now completely integrated with the rest of our retail operations. Comps were up 15.4% in the fourth quarter and have continued to be strong into spring.

We have new leadership in place at Bass and our improvements to the assortment, revising price structure and promotional strategies are proving effective. We have more work to do, but there is a clear opportunity to revitalize this brand and create continued improvements in the brand’s position.

Our Wilsons business was the genesis for our diversification into specialty and retail. And similar to Bass was the need of the same kind of attention to merchandising, pricing and promotion. Wilsons continues to demonstrate strength during the good fourth quarter with comp sales up 5.5%. We are set up well for 2015.

Wilsons wrapped up this past year with sales per square foot of approximately $387, up from $375 a year ago and from only $250 when we acquired them in 2008. We are focused on the execution of our strategic plan with Vilebrequin, our status resort wear business.

Overall, revenues were up 15% for the quarter albeit low single-digit comparable store growth in the U.S. offset by Europe and Asia. The brand is healthy and we remain confident in our direction.

We are expanding the appeal of our men’s business with additional technical fabrics and silhouettes as well as products in other categories such as neckwear in the U.S. and footwear in Europe licensed to PVH and Overland respectively.

We also continue to work on developing the women’s assortment, so it can become an important part of the overall business. We are excited about the future potential of Vilebrequin. I will reserve some comments for closing and we will now turn the call over to Neal for a closer review of our financial performance.

Neal?.

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. For the full fiscal year 2015, we reported net sales of $2.12 billion, an increase of 23% compared to last year’s net sales of $1.72 billion. Net sales in our licensed product segments increased 13% to $1.29 billion from $1.15 billion. Net sales in our non-licensed product segment increased 32% to $452 million from $343 million.

Net sales in our retail operation segment increased approximately 68% to $499 million from $298 million in the prior year.

Increased net sales in our licensed product segment were primarily driven by increases in the net sales of Calvin Klein products, most significantly, in our women’s sportswear, women’s outerwear, women’s performance wear and dress lines as well as increases in net sales of our Tommy Hilfiger, Ivanka Trump, Guess and Cole Haan licensed product lines.

Increased net sales in our non-licensed product segment were primarily the result of an increase in net sales of private label products. The increase in net sales in our retail operation segment was primarily attributable to including a full year of net sales from our GH Bass business in the current year compared to three months in the prior year.

We also had an increase in Wilsons net sales due to a combination of a higher store count and a comparable store sales increase of 3.9%. The overall gross margin percentage for fiscal 2015 was 35.8% compared to 34.0% in the prior year. Gross margin for the licensed product segment was 28.7% compared to 28.4% in the prior year.

The gross margin percentage for the non-licensed product segment was 34.2% compared to 32.8% in the prior year.

This increase was primarily attributable to improved gross margins of our Jessica Howard, Eliza J and Andrew Marc product lines, offset in part by the unfavorable impact from our private label programs which operated at a lower gross margin in the segment’s average.

Gross margin percentage for the retail operation segment was 46.4% this year compared to 49.5% in the prior year. The decrease in the gross margin percentage for our retail operations segment is primarily due to our new GH Bass business that operated in a lower gross profit percentage than the rest of our retail business.

Selling, general and administrative expenses for fiscal 2015 increased $131 million to 27% of sales from 25.6% in the prior year. This increase is primarily attributable to the addition of selling, general and administrative expenses associated with our GH Bass business acquired in prior year’s fourth quarter.

Excluding the impact of GH Bass, the increase in SG&A was driven by an increase in personnel and facility costs. Personnel costs increased due to increases in personnel to staff additional retail stores and increase in headcount related to the expansion of certain product lines and an increase in bonus accruals related to increased profitability.

Facility costs increased as a result of the rent expense incurred for additional retail store leases opened since the prior year. In addition, we increased our use of third-party facilities to satisfy the higher shipping volume related to domestic sales.

Net income for the year increased to $110 million or $4.97 per diluted share from $77 million or $3.71 per diluted share in the prior year. Included in our net income in the current year is $11.5 million of other income which is equal to $0.43 per diluted share on an after tax basis.

On an adjusted basis excluding other income in the current year and excluding expenses associated with the acquisition of GH Bass and other potential transactions in the prior year, the non-GAAP net income per diluted share was $4.54 for the year ended January 31, 2015 compared to $3.74 in the prior year.

Our effective tax rate for the current year was 35.3% which was lower than last year due to the tax treatment of certain other income realized during our third quarter. Excluding the tax rate on these other income items our effective tax rate was slightly under 37% which we expect will be similar for fiscal 2016.

Regarding our fourth quarter, net sales increased 9% to $514 million compared to $473 million in last year’s comparable quarter.

Net sales in our licensed product segment in the quarter increased 9% to $280 million from $257 million primarily as a result of increased net sales in our Calvin Klein product lines, most significantly in our women’s sportswear, women’s suits and women’s outerwear lines.

Net sales in our non-licensed products segment increased 31% to $116 million from $89 million primarily due to increases in private label sales.

Net sales in our retail operation segment increased 12% to $175 million from $156 million in last year’s fourth quarter primarily attributable to the increase in Wilsons store count as well as the same store sales increases of 5.5% for Wilsons and 15.4% for GH Bass.

Our net income for the quarter was $22 million or $0.96 per diluted share compared to $13 million or $0.62 per share in last year’s fourth quarter. Our overall gross margin percentage for the fourth quarter was 35.7% compared to 35.2% in last year’s fourth quarter.

The gross margin percentage for our licensed products segment was 23.6% in the fourth quarter compared to 24.9% in the prior year’s quarter.

The gross margin percentage for our non-licensed products segment was 28.4% compared to 29% in the prior year’s quarter and our retail operation segment was 48.2% this year compared to 48.9% in the previous year’s quarter.

Regarding our balance sheet, accounts receivable at our fiscal year end increased 24% to $199 million from $160 million at the end of the prior year. Our inventory at year end increased approximately 19% to $426 million from $360 million last year. Inventory levels at GH Bass at the end of last year were still in transition and were suboptimal.

Compared to the end of last year, inventory levels at GH Bass increased significantly. However, excluding this transitional impact, our inventory levels increased approximately 9%, which is consistent with our forecasted first quarter sales increase.

In fiscal 2015, we spent approximately $43 million on capital expenditures, primarily for leasehold improvements for new and existing retail stores, fixturing costs at department stores, the integration of the GH Bass business on to our distribution platform and leasehold improvements at our corporate office.

At the end of the year, we had no outstanding debt and cash on hand of $128 million compared to a prior year net debt balance of $47 million consisting of our revolving bank debt, our promissory note, less the cash on hand balance.

In addition to the cash flow generated from operations, this reduction in debt was due in large part to net proceeds of approximately $129 million from our June 2014 public stock offering.

In terms of guidance, for the fiscal year ending January 31, 2016, we are forecasting net sales to increase 12% to approximately $2.37 billion compared to $2.12 billion in fiscal 2015 and net income to increase to between $116 million and $122 million from between $5.05 and $5.25 per diluted share that’s compared to net income of $110 million or $4.90 per diluted share and $4.54 diluted per diluted share on a non-GAAP adjusted basis in the prior fiscal year.

We are estimating a fully diluted share count of approximately 23.2 million shares, which includes the additional dilution from the 2014 midyear stock offering. We are forecasting fiscal 2016 adjusted EBITDA to grow between 14% and 20% to a range of approximately $214 million to $224 million from $187 million in fiscal 2015.

With regard to the first quarter ending April 30, 2015, we are forecasting net sales of approximately $406 million compared to $366 million in last year’s first fiscal quarter.

We also are forecasting net income between $1.1 million and $3.5 million or between $0.05 and $0.15 per diluted share compared to net income of $1.3 million or $0.06 per diluted share in last year’s first fiscal quarter. That concludes my comments and I will now turn the call back to Morris for closing remarks..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Neal. Our financial, operational and strategic performance of fiscal 2015 was excellent and we remain positioned to grow, diversify, to enhance the level of our products and value, improve our margins and deploy capital effectively. Our industry continues to consolidate and we remain intent on capturing that opportunity.

As a large and very capable player across the industry, we have solid organic growth opportunities and we are an easy and forward-thinking company to do business with.

Beyond that opportunity, while we have no announcements today, I would simply comment that we have excellent access to strategic capital and a strong and lengthy track record of successfully supplementing our organic growth with good fit acquisitions.

At this point, we consider efficient and effective integration of acquired businesses to be a core organizational capability. This has been a very effective path to drive value to our shareholders.

In many ways, we believe that our dedication to driving value to our customers, brand owners and partners exist seamlessly with our intent to also maximize returns for our shareholders. This is a comfortable position for us as we are able to simply focus on running the best business we can.

We are grateful for your support and recognition and we look forward to demonstrating our capabilities again in the year ahead. Thank you. Operator, we are now ready for some questions..

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Joan Payson from Barclays. Please go ahead..

Bridgette Taylor

Hi, good morning. This is Bridgette Taylor on for Joan Payson. Thanks so much for taking my question. Just on GH Bass what are your accretion expectations going into 2015 and what sort of margin expansion are you anticipating for this business.

And do you have any timeline for when that business can achieve double-digit margin levels?.

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So we are definitely looking for a significant improvement in the GH Bass business, it operated about a 43% gross margin this past year. So we will get some lift there. We will definitely have an accretive event for our self this year.

And everything that we have seen in terms of the way the business is performing assuming the fourth quarter gives us confidence to know that we have turned the corner and are moving in the right direction.

In terms of getting to double-digit operating margins, I think we have got a little way to go before we can give you some clarity on these activities..

Bridgette Taylor

Great.

And just a quick follow-up, how big do you think the GH Bass women’s wholesale business can ultimately be and do you have any expectations for how much revenue it might represent going into this upcoming year?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

The brand in women’s apparel can be $200 million business at wholesale without a great deal of difficulty. We have gotten great reception. We will be distributing in the back end of the third quarter this year where it’s a little early for us to give you a number on what we expect this year..

Bridgette Taylor

Great. Thanks so much and congratulations on the great quarter..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Bridgette..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Erinn Murphy from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead..

Erinn Murphy

Great. Thank you. Good morning and let me add my congratulations.

Morris since you have last talked it sounds like there has been an opportunity at wholesale with Jones New York kind of winding down this spring season, could you maybe just help us think about the landscape and you have got some really powerful brands in your portfolio right now, that could potentially kind of vibe for some of that base, how are you thinking about the opportunities at wholesale across some of your women’s brands that are operating right now?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

The – I guess the loss of Jones in the retail environment will definitely impact our business. We are picking up additional business at Calvin Klein.

The penetration per door is beginning to show nice increases, alongside of the fact that the Calvin Klein was one of the best performers at retail as the space became available, astute retailers are moving part of our assortments into additional space. The additional brands that we have and hope to have will probably cover more space.

We are not the only beneficiary there, there are some wonderful people in the industry that will prosper from the real estate that supported them, but we believe that we will get more than our share of commitment to grow our businesses from the retailers. They are showing their true colors today.

They are anxious for us to build another collection to supplement our business and theirs. So we are likely to show our hand in the coming weeks as to what we believe we can accommodate them with..

Erinn Murphy

Great, that’s helpful.

And then just maybe following up on Bridgette’s question on GH Bass, just from a bigger picture Morris how are you I mean you clearly expanded the platform really across different licenses you have got kind of an opportunity now to go into wholesale with footwear you have got the women’s opportunity which you just spoke to and then obviously the men’s opportunity you are working with PVH, I mean when you take it that back how big could this brand be overall as you look out kind of down 3 years to 5 years and are there other opportunities that you see from a licensing perspective to either get into new categories or expand existing categories for the brand?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We believe that this can be $1 billion brand alongside of retail, men’s apparel, the women’s that we are launching and the categories that we are beginning to license. The more successful we are on the retail and wholesale level, the better licensee, better quality licensee we are able to garner. Genesco is a very strong entity to cooperate with.

They are anxious to get this started. They are about a year away from launching the brand. They will start showing in third quarter of next year – of this year rather and begin shipping in February of ‘16 and we believe that their involvement with G-III will make a big difference.

Our European licensee also focused on footwear is top of class in footwear in the UK. He has garnered space from premier retailers who are beginning to ship now. The early shipping that he has done has brought back reorders and price points are higher in Europe than they are here.

And in spite of currency issue and weaknesses in economies, he is showing signs of – goods signs of success. So, we believe that all the classifications that are compatible with this will be licensed within the next – within the next nine months.

There is an accessory opportunity there is watches, there are belts, there is hosiery, there is swim there is even an opportunity on fragrance. So, Jeff Goldfarb is on that now. It’s his area. And he has been meeting perpetually with new potential licensees. So, we have a big bet on this one.

We believe that this will be an important component to our business, where we are doing good deal of marketing. We have a major budget for the back end of this year to get the word out that we are back and we are here to stay. So, this is an exciting business for us..

Erinn Murphy

Great, that’s very encouraging. Just the last housekeeping question for Neal, on the gross margin opportunity for Bass, I mean, I think at one point you talked about gross margin being similar to that of what Wilsons has achieved.

Is this the brand continues to expand and you kind of mix wholesale and retail? How your expectations change from a gross margin recovery perspective or just help us think about how that should evolve over the next couple of years? Thank you..

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Look, I think it’s only going to be helpful to what we can do in the outlet stores to the extent that the brand gets stronger. So, there certainly is and will be an increased expectation. We have got plenty of work to do to get there. We are just now at the 43% this past year in terms of gross margin. We will move that up.

I think comfortably we are thinking that this business in the outlet centers should be very comparable to Wilsons in that 50% range for gross margin percentage, but I think that you are right, Erinn that certainly as the brand gets stronger, that only means improved productivity as well as improved margin potential in the outlet centers..

Erinn Murphy

Great, thank you guys. Best of luck..

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

I mean, we are beginning to see a big difference. As our product gets better, this is the first delivery of what we believe is the right product for Bass is occurring right now.

This past year it was a process of liquidating old inventory, it was doing patchwork on putting in inventory that was suitable for the store, but it wasn’t the perfect assortment. We have worked simultaneously to repair the operational side of the business as well as the product side.

We have hired seasoned professionals, Jody Gietl who comes from New York & Company. He ran all of their outlet stores and he reports to Bill Hutchison and the combination of the two with some underpinnings of wonderful people are going to make this a good, strong, better margin business..

Erinn Murphy

Great, thank you guys and best of luck..

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Erinn..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Ed Yruma from KeyBanc Capital. Please go ahead..

Ed Yruma

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on a great year.

Morris, if you look back historically to outerwear sales, when you think about kind of the past three winters and obviously the strong sales you guys are seeing, I guess, how would you contextualize? How we should think about the industry growth rate going forward? And I know you indicated that inventories, I think ended the season very clean.

Do you think actually that retailers will now begin to buy units up or think in previous years they really have it? Thank you..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, thanks for your question, Ed. There are a couple of things. What we realized is that weather is a factor, but it’s not the only factor. In our industry, the tendency when you challenge your designers to create product is they will take the – they will take the easiest path.

The hardest commodity gets the most attention and the commodities that are less in favor are getting less attention. So, we took a position that we have shored both areas up this year. Wool did not end up very strong, but every woman has a couple of wool coats in her closet. We didn’t give her a reason to buy.

We felt that we as an industry, not G-III alone, we got lazy. We classified wools as possibly a pea coat or a scuba or a three-quarter length, but that’s really not the answer.

The specialty of styles, the fit, the uniqueness of what a coat could look like really drives the business, and yes, price is important but it’s not what necessarily is the only stimulus for a woman to go out there and make a purchase. So, our designs this year on a commodity that ended up weak are off the charts.

You walk through all of our divisions and your eye goes right through our wool assortment. So, we have benefited on our early bookings from just the comfort level that our fashion is correct. The easier pieces or the down piece of our business is very strong.

There are some directional pieces that are driving the business whether it’s fabric, weight of fabric, color palette, the simplicity of creating a packable garment that’s utility, all of this is driving our coat business. So, it’s not necessarily how as I started with the weather factor, it’s the fashion factor.

We create outerwear that sometimes is worn indoors. A woman walks into a cocktail party she doesn’t take off here jacket. So, there are different weights and we are just getting better everyday. We are one of the larger players in outerwear possibly the largest.

And we are not just sitting back with expectations as that a retailer is just going to anniversary or give modest growth in their business, we are fighting for much greater than that. We want more space. We want – we provide a reason why we should get that space. So, I can talk to you forever on the outerwear business it’s where we come from.

We are all passionate about the outerwear business. This is an outerwear company that expanded into multiple categories and did it effectively with the same culture, the same do not fail attitude. You must succeed and it permeates through the entire building. Sorry, I was a little wordy for you, Ed..

Ed Yruma

No, no, it’s all really helpful color obviously, since it is such an important piece of your business. And I guess the second maybe smaller piece of the business question I had, as it relates to VBQ in the U.S.

kind of how should we think about comps or do you think you have hit some degree of maturity and I know you have been also experimenting with some new styles and fits I guess? Are there other adjustments you have to make to make VBQ a more addressable brand for the U.S. consumer? Thank you..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think you hit on what we have to do and we are doing it effectively. I was with our CEO this week reviewing the future and our business is a little difficult and we understand why in parts of the world. The Russian community is a big fan of the brand. The Brazilian community is just as strong as the Russian community.

Both of those economies are not what they were. So, there has been slippage. What we also have done is we have created another audience. It’s just not that veg guy that’s got a little belly that wants the elastic waist.

Some of the product that we are now not only showing, but retailing exceptionally well are more tailored to a trimmer fit, a younger customer and we are seeing – we are seeing a shift in business, where we are garnering a different demographic on the core swim piece.

Women’s, this will – again, this will be our first real show of what we are going to ship in women’s. We had a change in design. We have a little bit more of an attitude that this is a dual gender as well as a children’s brand and we are going to derive the benefit of all of it. Our online business has not gone with the pace that it should have.

We have made a change there. And we expect some significant improvements in that area of our business. Some of the locations that were signed by prior management were adjusting, were either selling some of the locations or simply leaving and refurbishing others. So, it’s a great management team. The brand is world class.

Again, the brand is described as being bigger than the business and we are going to match the two up by broader assortments. We will build – within the next 2 to 3 years, we will build a flagship that will showcase all the products that we do and we are getting – we are getting good wholesale distribution for the first time.

If you were to walk into Harrods, if you were to walk into Bon Marché and Galeries Lafayette, you would be amazed as to the amount of attention and the amount of space that they are giving to this brand.

And we are doing the same thing in the United States with Neiman’s and Saks and Bergdorf Goodman and Bloomingdale’s and Nordstrom’s, they are all devoting more space, adding door count. So, this brand is not tired, it’s just waking up..

Ed Yruma

Great, thanks so much..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ed..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Rick Patel from Stephens Inc. Please go ahead..

Rick Patel

Good morning, everyone and I will add my congrats on a terrific end of year. Question on the new Genesco deal, lots of inventory cleanup with the Bass brand this past year, but it seems like the new brand that G-III had designed and sold this past call did pretty well.

So, how should we think about the primary driver of this Genesco deal? It seems I have just given the fact that you seem to be doing a pretty good job on the design side out the gate by yourself.

And then secondly for Neal, I know it’s far away, but can you talk about the financial ramifications of the new deal? I guess how will the new arrangement have an impact on sales and gross margins as you start recording higher royalty fees?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Excuse me. The design elements that Genesco will implement in this business are basically improving on the heritage. Strangely, the heritage pieces weren’t given enough love that would be the region and the buck and the current licensee has done a nice job, but they are not in sync where we want this brand to be.

Genesco seems to be very much there and clearly Overland as well. So, some of the fashion is consistent with what it’s been, but the last has changed, the make has changed, the marketing behind this machine is becoming aggressive. And Genesco shares that absolute passion. They are excited by this opportunity.

Their goals start with quality and the improvement in quality and their belief is that with quality, our sales will grow. Their quality of factories is far different than what we currently have. We use them and have used them historically to do some private label for our own stores. So they understand the brand.

They understand their people and it’s a perfect fit. And beyond that they are financially sound. They are able to service the demand that will be created by all the things that we plan on doing. So this one – this marriage is one that’s likely to last and we are seeing similar passion in the UK.

The relationship we have with Stephen Palmer at Overland is the long one. Stephen has been part of G-III at some point or another – for over 15 years. We licensed Caterpillar from him. He had a large business, lost the license back to Wolverine and retooled with G-Star Raw.

And the brand that we have just given him is perfect for what he needs to tuck in for growth. He has also taken on the challenge of doing some high end Vilebrequin, call it leisure footwear. So lots of opportunities and I think we are kind of covered on all strategies and we are taking this one slowly.

We have spent a good deal of time liquidating and positioning the brand and now creativity, design, quality, all of the factors that we knew were needed to improve on this business are being implemented..

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

Rick in terms of royalties, look it’s a business that we are very happy to be in, it’s one that doesn’t come with a tremendous amount of expense. You do have to make sure that the brand is being advertised appropriately and defend your trademarks, but by and large it’s extremely lucrative.

We have talked about the brand’s potential at $1 billion, so you can really start to think about some very nice significant royalty opportunities as that matures. It’s certainly not here for us this upcoming year, which is where our guidance is speaking to.

But over time we think it’s – there is an operating margin improve [ph] and then a nice source of revenue..

Rick Patel

That’s terrific. Thanks for the color there. And then just hoping for a little bit more info on the Bass deal becoming accretive for this year, you mentioned before that comps and the gross margins are likely to be up this year, but how do you see SG&A, is this an opportunity just given the investments that you had to make over the last year.

And then as we think beyond calendar 2015, what do see as the primary EPS driver of the Bass business is it mostly about getting the retail comps to be higher or do gross margins play a bigger opportunity just given all the licensing potentially you have there?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think we have both opportunities. We are seeing if the world of Bass started in February you would be amazed as to what we are accomplishing, given the fact that we had 399 closed days because of the weather in the month of February, compared to 299 a year ago. Our business was up 23% to comp with less traffic.

Our margin rate showed improvement and the product is just getting right. This one does excite us. The opportunities for this year that we are not going to derive sensational income from licensing royalty, we are just at the early stage. Some licenses have a startup or a ramp up time of 18 months.

So you don’t get the benefit right out-of-the-box, it takes a little time to mature it. If we look at our oldest licensee which is PVH, PVH signed its license with us as we bought the brand from them. The level of cooperation as you might expect between the two teams, they operate as if they are one team.

The men’s business at Bass has been incredibly strong. It beat their plan. Their orders going forward, I hate to speak for them, but it appear to be significantly better than last year. So, they have done a nice job of creating – they were the impetus for us to go into the women’s business. They did a great job of creating men’s product.

They filled the void and they are servicing it very well and we believe we can at least match to what they are doing on the women’s side..

Rick Patel

That’s great. Thank you very much..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from David Glick from Buckingham Research. Please go ahead..

David Glick

Thank you and my congratulations for a great year. I just want to clarify, Neal, I think you referred to Bass as potentially a $1 billion brand, I am not sure that I heard that correctly, but you mentioned that too, women’s apparel was $200 million.

Obviously, there is a big opportunity in the productivity and retail and you have men’s sportswear and men’s and women’s footwear. Is that the objective here? I just want to make sure that I heard that right..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Neal is a little skittish when it comes to forecast. So, I will take the credit for the $1 billion number..

David Glick

Okay, okay, okay..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We currently have only 155 stores. So, there is opportunity in growth through our retail. We can double the size of our retail over time as new centers and opportunities are there for us will expand our business.

Beyond that is the growth that we are describing based on better quality, better pricing, better fashion that will give us some growth impetus just on our own retail.

The rest of it is going to be derived out of the classifications that we are going to take on, which will primarily be the outerwear pieces in both genders and the women’s collection of apparel. There is an opportunity to license multiple classifications, including home. There is a big opportunity in the home sector for this.

So, if you add up what exists and what is likely to be tacked on over time, I would tell you that $1 billion, that you are having me rethink it is almost a conservative number..

David Glick

Okay. Thanks for that color..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

There is also an opportunity in kids. This is a great children’s brand. And we haven’t touched on that yet. You need to remember we are barely in this business for a year. And we have moved rapidly. We have moved successfully. We had a little bit of a glitch, where we are aggressive in our planning for Q4, but all of it is matching up.

And there is still an international component to this business. We have received calls from some very important people in Southeast Asia that are anxious to license the brands in many categories. We are not ready for them yet..

David Glick

I am seeing a lot of – lot more men’s product out in various department stores that seems like on the wholesale side, that’s for you, maybe you have got the earliest start and the most progress, can you talk about the distribution that you expect and the potential in men’s Bass sportswear for this year?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Well, the only product that you are likely to see is really the men’s..

David Glick

Right..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

It’s really the only product that was shipped. Women’s will begin to ship September-October of this year, which is faster than we had originally planned. We have put together a collection of clothing. I put this brand in the hands of an amazing couple that runs Bass – I am sorry Kensie.

They are overseeing the creative, the sourcing, the development of this product, but most of the creative will be done in Vancouver. These people are extremely talented. They have added staff. They know how to source it.

And the plan was to really launch this a little bit later, but everybody was excited with the progress that was being made and we brought the product to New York to show our buyers for the last market.

And they were absolutely in all of – I don’t particularly like the term whitespace, but they have described this as the whitespace in women’s apparel and very excited by the opportunity.

So we will be in Dillard’s, we will be in Macy’s and there is no doubt that all the retailers that support us and the ones that we support as well will give us an opportunity to show our products and retail our products and the opportunity is there for us..

David Glick

Great. And just thank you Morris, a quick follow-up you had mentioned earlier when talking about the opportunity created by Jones exiting women’s sportswear that in the coming weeks, you maybe adding a brand, I wasn’t sure if that was through acquisition or something you are something internally, I just wonder if you could clarify that.

And then also in the past you have talked about potential deal size being $500 million being a sweet spot maybe up to $1 billion just wondering if that’s still your current thought process?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

The size of the deal is, yes, it’s pretty consistent that’s our comfort zone, that’s not to say that we can reach out further, but our comfort zone is between that $0.5 billion to $1 billion level also depending on the balance sheet that we would be acquiring.

So the growth or I guess your question is what’s our strategy for some of the Jones space, we are in the middle of several situations none of which have crossed the finish line. What we have a habit of doing is we look at several things simultaneously as we all know many pieces or businesses or opportunities fall away.

So our strategy is not to take on more than we can handle, but to look at quite a bit to be selective and make the best deal for ourselves and our shareholders. And we are near a couple of opportunities that are there for us and whether they are licensed or acquisition, our desire would be an acquisition.

But that’s not to say it’s an appropriate license was there or a combination, if the partnership was there we would – we would concede our absolute wish which was to acquire brands and just to take part of a brand or a license that’s favorable to us..

David Glick

Okay, very good. Thank you very much. Good luck..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, David..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from John Kernan from Cowen. Please go ahead..

John Kernan

Hi, good morning everybody. Congrats on another great year..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

John Kernan

Neal your guidance is implying double-digit top line growth this year, can you help us understand that the drivers of that by brand and channel and give some color around what you are expecting in terms of gross margin and SG&A rate for the year?.

Neal Nackman Chief Financial Officer

So as I look at the two big pieces of the business John I would tell you that it’s probably pretty comparable both in terms of wholesale and retail. We are probably looking for pretty similar increases in both sides of the business. In terms of operating margin improvement, we are forecasting some operating margin improvement.

And I think that’s going to also come from both the gross margin, slight improvement in both gross margin and the SG&A.

We certainly when we think about the Bass business, we got a lot of room in terms of gross margin improvement as well as SG&A leverage, a little less room in terms of improving the gross margin performance of our wholesale business, it did perform extremely strongly this past year.

We are up in the high single-digits in terms of operating margin improvement. So sort of a recap of the whole thing, I think we will have balanced growth across the business and we will see some nice improvements in terms of both gross margin as well as SG&A..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

John, I think I would like to add that we are all focused on what might be considered our new toy and that would be Bass. What we are not focusing on is everything that’s still left on the table for us that Calvin Klein.

This brand, although it is our largest business and one might look at it and say where are you going to go with this? The opportunity with Calvin Klein is endless. It’s not a classification that we are not projecting good growth in for the coming year.

Surprisingly and I think it touched on it earlier, it doesn’t necessarily have to be that there is another brand to replace Jones New York, there can be an existing brand that just has gotten so good and so broad at what they do, but they are able to garner a disproportionate amount of space and amount of that budget that’s out there for growth.

The focus again as we described earlier on areas that seem to be matured is better design. The design at Calvin Klein in each classification is best-in-class. Our dress designs are as good as they get.

And when you think you have reached the limit, you shop the next collection and say oh my god, how did they get better? When you look at our bag business, all we need is more space. We have great product. Our battles today are trying to – trying to create more space to display all the great stuff that we do.

Our suits business, we are doing amazingly well with it. We have again a solid design team. We have a fan base at retail that’s supporting it. And we clearly dominate that area. We have brought that area back to the life.

“There is not very much that I can say about” that I haven’t said, its design, its price, its quality, its cooperation from your vendor base, we have it all for Calvin Klein. If you are going to look at this company, a big percentage of our growth is still available through further development of Calvin Klein..

John Kernan

All that is very helpful. Just wondering if we could step back a second and talk about Calvin Klein more broadly. I know the categories you operate in, there has been a lot of impressive top line growth, but outside of that and some of the other categories globally, things have been a little bit slower and tougher.

Any comments on where you think the Calvin Klein brand as a whole is in its lifecycle globally?.

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Globally in its lifecycle, I think they have got a long way to go. This brand will survive and will prosper. There is nothing that one could guarantee about a hiccup. A hiccup might occur based on an environment, based on a change in management, their design, but – and maybe it’s just a little bit of time that cures it all.

There is – this is an amazing brand that’s owned and operated by an amazing company. So, our belief, we are making a big bet that this brand is here forever. And hopefully, the team that’s currently running it is there forever. They are highly confident. I guess I might be hearing your concern about the Warnaco piece that was acquired. That was acquired.

It’s just taking a little longer than expected to integrate the company. And we have had those issues. We continue to have it. We over-planned for Bass this fourth quarter, but we are fixing it and the same goes for PVH..

John Kernan

Okay. That’s all very helpful. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And I am showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Morris Goldfarb for closing remarks..

Morris Goldfarb Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you very much for hearing our story and I wish you a good day..

Operator

Thank you and thank you ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today’s conference. Thank you for participating..

ALL TRANSCRIPTS
2024 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2023 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2022 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2021 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2020 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2019 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2018 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2017 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2016 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2015 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2014 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1