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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q2
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Executives

Rick Wheeler - President and CEO Tom McEntire - Vice President and CFO.

Analysts

Bill Dezellem - Tieton Capital Garrett Williams - Seaport Global Securities David Nierenberg - Nierenberg Investment Management Company.

Operator

Welcome to the Geospace Technologies Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today from Geospace is Mr. Rick Wheeler, President and Chief Executive Officer. He is joined by Tom McEntire, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Today's call is being recorded and will be available on the Geospace Technologies' Investor Relations website following the call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation.

[Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Rick Wheeler. Sir, you may begin..

Rick Wheeler

Good morning. And welcome to Geospace Technologies conference call for the second quarter of fiscal year 2017 and thanks for listening. I am Rick Wheeler, the company's President and Chief Executive Officer and I'm here with Tom McEntire, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

I’ll start the call today with a prepared overview of the quarter. Then Tom will follow that with an in-depth review and commentary of our financial performance. I'll then close out the prepared portion of the call with some final remarks and we will open the line for questions.

As a mentioned for convenience, we will place a replay of this conference call in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.geospace.com. As a standard caution the information we will discuss this morning is time-sensitive and might not be accurate on the date one listens to the replay.

Also, many statements made today can be considered forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. This includes comments about the market for our products, revenue recognition, planned operations and capital expenditures.

Such statements are based on our present knowledge and perceptions, while actual outcomes are influenced by uncertainties and other factors that we are unable to control or predict. Related risks both known and unknown, can lead to undesirable results or cause our performance to materially differ from what we may express or imply.

These risks and uncertainties include those discussed in our SEC Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings. After the market closed yesterday, the company released its financial results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2017, which ended March 31, 2017.

As indicated our revenue in the second quarter reflect to the sequential improvement of 35% over the first quarter and from an expanded perspective, the three-month and six-month periods ended March 31st observed revenue increases of 38% and 28%, respectively, when compared to the same periods last year.

In both these periods the increases resulted from higher demand for our wireless seismic product reflecting revenue in particular from rental contracts for our OBX marine systems.

These comparative improvements are certainly well received and while they may offer cautious optimism for improving seismic industry, we don't believe that constitute a pervasive trend.

Our seismic revenue has long been known to exhibit volatility when comparing one specific period to another and in our opinion there is significant recovery led to be accomplished before the seismic equipment market returns to stability.

In the meantime, our revenue will continue to fluctuate and our operations and profits will continue to be burdened with unabsorbed factory overhead, rental fleet depreciation and inventory obsolescence expenses.

In our efforts to adapt to these industry conditions, we are pleased to have reduced our operating expenses for the three-month and six-month periods ending March 31, 2017, by almost 10% and 7%, respectively, compared to last year.

The lowered operating expenses for both periods largely resulted from the cost reduction efforts we implemented in last year's second fiscal quarter. Our traditional seismic products generated $3.6 million of revenue in the second quarter, an increase of $0.4 million over last year’s second quarter.

This increase is primarily attributable to specific sales occurring within the period of certain specialized sensors, such sales demonstrate the loss that often occur in the demand for some of our products which can be particularly noticeable in the present market conditions.

In contrast to the quarter the first six months of fiscal year 2017 saw a decrease in traditional product revenue of $2 million compared to last, producing only $6.2 million.

The reduction from previous six-month period definitively highlights the lower overall demand experienced for these products in light of curtailed seismic exploration by oil and gas companies. Revenue from our wireless seismic products totaled $9.6 million in the three months ended March 31, 2017.

More than double the amount for the same three months of 2016. Likewise, revenue from these products over the six months ended March 31st rose to $15.9 million from last year's reported amount of $6.6 million for the equivalent six months.

The higher revenue in both periods was predominantly driven by increased rental activity for our OBX marine nodal systems. Both periods saw the benefit of a longer-term rental contract utilizing a large number of our shallow water OBX units, as well as several shorter-term contracts for deep and shallow water stations.

These contracts came to end in our second quarter and with no similar contracts subsequently scheduled, we expect considerably lower rental revenue from these products going forward. Our reservoir seismic product revenue increased to $0.7 million in the second fiscal quarter, compared to last year’s second quarter.

However, revenue for this segment declined by almost 5% in the first six months of the fiscal year, compared to the same six-month period one year ago.

Revenue contributions in this segment for the most recent three-month and six-month periods were essentially a combination of sales, rentals and repairs of our borehole seismic products in conjunction with support services we performed for our permanent reservoir monitoring or PRM system customers.

We do not expect to relatively low level of revenue in this product category to change any time soon, only if we were awarded a contract for the manufacture and delivery of a PRM system would we expect to see a substantial increase in revenue for this segment.

However, with that being said, there are no such awards or commercial tenders pending at the present time and none are anticipated in the fiscal year remaining. Revenue from our non-seismic products was $6.5 million for the three months ended March 31, 2017, an increase of $0.2 million over the same three months last year.

The increase was driven by higher sales of our imaging products, although offset by a slight reduction in sales of our industrial products. For the full six months ended March 31st, revenue in this segment increased a $0.5 million over last year to reach $12.2 million.

An improvement in sales of both our imaging and industrial products contributed to the increase over the prior six-month period.

We note that sales for any particular portion of this segment can regularly vary from one period to another, and based on recent order flow for our industrial products, we expect revenue in this segment to remain relatively flat for the remainder of the year.

However, we still foresee the opportunity for long-term growth and demand for these products. I will now turn the call over to Tom McEntire, our CFO, who will provide additional detail commentary and insight on the company’s second quarter financial performance..

Tom McEntire

Thanks, Rick, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin I would like to remind everyone that we will not provide any specific revenue or earnings guidance during this call. In yesterday's press release for our second quarter ended March 31, 2017, we reported revenue of $21 million compared to last year's revenue of $15 million.

Our net loss for the quarter was $11.5 million or $0.88 per diluted share compared to last year's net loss of $11 million or $0.84 per diluted share. For the six months ended March 31, 2017, we reported revenue of $36 million compared to revenue of $28 million last year.

Our net loss for the six-month period was $23 million or loss of $1.77 diluted share compared to last year's net loss of $22 million or loss of a $1.69 per diluted share.

For each of the current year periods, we were unable to recognize any income tax benefits related to our pretax loss, which affects the comparability of the fiscal year 2017 results were close at fiscal year 2016.

A breakdown of our seismic product revenue is as follows; our traditional product revenue for the second quarter was $3.6 million, an increase of 13% compared to revenue of $3.2 million last year. The increase reflects the resumption of demand for certain specialty sensor products in our second quarter.

Revenue for the six months was $6.2 million, a decrease of 24% compared to revenue of $8.2 million last year. The revenue decline reflects lower demand for a broader range of our sensor products due to lower seismic crew activities.

Our GSX and OBX wireless product revenue for the quarter was $9.6 million, an increase of 104% compared to revenue of $4.7 million last year. Revenue for the six months was $15.9 million, an increase of 141% compared to -- I'm sorry, $6.6 million last year.

The increase in both periods primarily resulted from a large OBX rental contract, which began in February of last year along with another shorter term OBX rental contract, both of which concluded during the second quarter.

Although, delivery of more OBX rental equipment is expected later in our third quarter, we expect lower levels of OBX rental income in future quarters. Reservoir product revenue for the second quarter was $700,000, an increase of 21% compared to revenue of $600,000 last year.

The revenue increase was primarily due to an increase in reservoir monitoring service revenue earned in the current quarter. Revenue for the six months was $1.2 million, a decrease of 5% compared to $1.3 million last year. The revenue declined primarily resulted from lower borehole product rentals.

We believe our seismic reservoir product segment will continue to contribute in significant levels of revenue until we are engaged in a contract to deliver a PRM system.

Moving on to our non-seismic products, a breakdown of revenue is as follow; our industrial product revenue for the second quarter was $3.3 million, a decrease of 2% compared to revenue of $3.4 million last year. We do not believe this small decrease in quarterly revenue is indicative of any particular trend in our industrial product demand.

Our industrial product revenue for the six months was $6.4 million, an increase of 5% compared to $6.1 million last year. This increase was primarily attributable to higher demand for our contract manufacturing services.

Image product -- imaging product revenue for the second quarter was $3.2 million, an increase of 9% compared to revenue of $2.9 million last year. Revenue for the six months was $5.8 million, an increase of 4% compared to $5.6 million last year. These increases reflect higher demand for our printhead and other -- in our film products as well.

Our consolidated gross profit margins in our seismic business segment continue to be under significant pressure due to several factors, including unabsorbed fixed manufacturing cost due to low factory utilization, inventory obsolescence expenses and depreciation on underutilized rental equipment.

Until we see significantly improving seismic product demand, we expect our seismic product gross profit margins to be challenged throughout fiscal year 2017 and beyond. Our second quarter and year-to-date operating expenses declined 10% and 7%, respectively, from last year.

These declines reflect savings we realized from our cost reduction program implemented back in the second quarter of fiscal year 2016. Cash investments into our property, plant and equipment, and rental equipment now stand at $500,000 for the second quarter.

Our total fiscal year 2017 cash investments and capital equipment could be as high as $3.5 million with very limited amounts allocated towards new seismic rental equipment unless precipitated by increased customer demand for our OBX equipment.

In the event OBX rental orders require us to add new OBX units to our rental fleet, we would expect a majority of new rental equipment additions to be of non-cash nature since these additions would likely be derived from our existing inventory stocks. At March 31, 2017, our balance sheet reflected $48 million of cash and short-term investments.

We have no long-term debt outstanding and borrowing availability under our credit agreement was almost $30 million, resulting in $78 million of total liquidity.

While cash flows are expected to be lumpy throughout fiscal year 2017 and revenue visibility remains limited, we believe our total cash flows for fiscal year 2017 will be positive, primarily due to the receipt of $13 million of income tax refunds, most of which was received in our second quarter.

We remain committed to cash preservation while we endure this market downturn. That concludes my prepared remarks and I will turn the call back over to Rick..

Rick Wheeler

Thanks, Tom. The first half of fiscal year 2017 has now come to an end and it is very evident that market demand for our seismic products still remains a historic flows. This is a direct consequence of vastly reduced seismic exploration by oil and gas companies.

While the price of oil seems stabilized around it’s trailing six-month average of $50 per barrel or so, capital allocations have yet to be earmarked for exploration in any meaningful way. As reported by the International Energy Agency just last week, conventional oil discoveries in 2016 totaled only 2.4 billion barrels globally.

This is roughly one-fourth of what’s been average over the last 15 years. Compounding this, the amount of resources sanctions for development reached its lowest point in over 70 years and exploration spending in 2017 is expected to again fall for the third year in a row.

We expect these conditions to post a continue challenged for our future financial performance. Despite these circumstances, seismic imaging is the defining fundamental science necessary to find and ultimately exploit oil and gas reserves.

To this end we believe our seismic products represent the most technically advanced and cost-effective tools available to the industry for acquiring such images. We are resolve to maintain this advantage and leadership through our ongoing cost management and disciplined engineering.

As of March 31, 2017, our balance sheet reflected no debt as Tom mentioned and $78 million of total liquidity consisting of $19 million of cash and cash equivalents, $29 million in short-term investments and an untapped credit agreement of $30 million. This puts us in a good position to benefit from the eventual recovery of the seismic market.

Now this concludes our prepared remarks and I will turn the call back over to, Robbie, the moderator for questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question -- and we will pause for few minutes to our questions enter the queue, standby please. And our first question comes from Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital. Please go ahead..

Bill Dezellem

Hi. Thank you. That’s a Tieton Capital. I actually have a group of questions.

The, first of all, if I understood your comments in the December quarter 10-Q correctly, you expected that there would be lower rental income in the March quarter and it appears as though you have higher rental income in the March quarter than the December quarter and I would be curious what changed that -- led to that better than anticipated result?.

Tom McEntire

Bill that was primarily due to contract extension from one of our customers, where the contract went longer than we originally anticipated..

Bill Dezellem

And Tom was that for longer, probably, was that the larger long-term OBX contract?.

Tom McEntire

Yeah. It was..

Bill Dezellem

And did that extension take place because your customer found additional work or the scope of a particular project has increased?.

Tom McEntire

It was additional work..

Bill Dezellem

And that customer don't -- they finished their rental, they no longer have work on the docket, is that correct?.

Tom McEntire

Yeah. That customer has concluded that contract and so it's done..

Bill Dezellem

Let me shift if I may to GSX, what you are hearing about respective rentals or customers expressing an interest in renting equipment whether that be on a short or long-term basis?.

Tom McEntire

Well, there is some demand for that, but as you might well expect and as we have mentioned before there is already a considerable amount of equipment available in the contract hands, their crews are reduced, so it has a general room, they have as much equipment as they might need.

Interestingly enough, Bill, we had a situation this rental season in Canada where we ran out of a certain type of GSX equipment in our rental fleet and we had to move some inventory into our rental fleet in order to fulfill the demand. So it's still in demand. It’s still being used.

But, as Rick says, there is some ample amount of supply in the inventory pipeline with our customers..

Bill Dezellem

Fascinating, and what type of equipment was it that you ran out and have you add some?.

Tom McEntire

It was GSX three channel stations..

Bill Dezellem

All right. Yes. Congratulations..

Tom McEntire

Thanks..

Bill Dezellem

Better than not turning out right..

Tom McEntire

Sure..

Bill Dezellem

And so let me shift to the one area that there does seem to be a fair amount of drilling activity and that’s in the Permian? What’s happening with crew count over there and the general need or desire or interest in additional seismic work? What I am really trying to gauge is, with all that activity, are they just drilling processes they’ve already known about or is there some interest in doing some additional seismic work?.

Rick Wheeler

Well, I think, we are not the best people to be asked, answering that question, you really should be asking the contractors. We know that their crew counts are reduced and we hear that there are seismic programs that are being desired to be performed in these same areas to get better understanding of we are drilling to the curve.

But I am sure there is some ongoing drilling of this space on previous seismic data as well, but again, we are not in the best position to give the answer to that..

Bill Dezellem

Thank you both..

Operator

And or next question comes from Garrett Williams with Seaport Global Securities. Please go ahead..

Garrett Williams

Hi, guys. This is Garrett Williams on for Mark Brown..

Rick Wheeler

Hi..

Garrett Williams

I just want to ask about the non-seismic side of business. If I understood your release correctly that you expect the revenue to trend flat for the remainder of the fiscal year.

I am not under the understanding that fiscal third quarter and fourth quarter for kind of seasonally stronger quarters for you guys, I calling check on the dynamics you all see there?.

Rick Wheeler

Yeah. I mean, there is a portion of it that we expect based on our current visibility to maybe remain somewhat flat.

What we are aware of is that these seasonal aspects sort of shift from time-to-time with respect to contracts for particularly some of these industrial water meter cables and things of that nature that we have and so it’s really an issue that we expect growth in general but more the period that we can foresee it looks like it’s likely going to be flat..

Tom McEntire

Yeah. And some of the demand last year we understand was driven by customers that needed to fill their shells with this new product and they ordered a lot of stock more than what they just needed at that time. So their shell reserves full the stock, which probably coming down a little bit.

They are now getting into more of real order cycle, so last year we fill the shells and this year is ongoing demand..

Garrett Williams

Okay. Great.

And what -- is the customer is typically in that industrial product, yeah, municipalities or what is the customers that you are selling to?.

Rick Wheeler

It’s a broad kind of customers, the municipalities are certainly part of that customer base, but so are the instrument makers that provide actual hardware to those entities..

Garrett Williams

Okay. Great. Thank you.

And just one more for me, on your inventory obsolescence expenses, it look like in the quarter you guys took about $4.2 million or so, is that kind of amount that we should expect kind of foreseeable future seismic remain grow or is it kind of fluctuate quarter-to-quarter, I just want to check on that?.

Tom McEntire

You should expect it to fluctuate for the quarter. It is based on activity within all of our product lines and as product lines move and we have activity we need less obsolescence and those that continue to sit idle, we need more. So it’s very difficult for us to predict. So you should expect it to be a little bit more volatile..

Garrett Williams

Okay. Much appreciated. I will turn it back. Thanks guys..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we could take a follow-up from Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital..

Bill Dezellem

Thanks guys squeezing me in.

So would you please pontificate for a moment about where we are at in the cycle relative to the last meaningful downturn? I just don't have a lot of perspective, I guess, what I'm wondering is, the fits and starts that you're seeing now, is this normal, where, yes, there are some signs of green shoots but they don't at all seem to be sustainable or the beginning of the trend is just individual data points, is this normal as much of the commentary and pontificating as you like would be appreciated?.

Rick Wheeler

I don’t know there is a normal per se, I think, the last downturn result a bit more spiked and recovered more quickly. I think when things stay depressed for the length of time they are, you are going to see the sort of scattering effects that occur as little long of commerce take place.

As far as the sustainability of green shoots or improvements, that’s just something that you can't really predict at this point, because there's a lot of debate over the supply and demand balance. That's going to drive things in terms of with the long-term will hold.

It certainly the case that if exploration is necessary to find more oil and gas reserves, you are going to need to have seismic equipment to go do that. Right now as if you look at these reports the amount of resources being put towards that end are historic lows. So is that sustainable, I don't really think so.

But it’s hard to predict how things might change..

Bill Dezellem

Thank you, Rick..

Operator

Now we could take our next question from David Nierenberg with Nierenberg Investment Management Company..

David Nierenberg

Good morning..

Rick Wheeler

Hi, David..

Tom McEntire

Good morning..

David Nierenberg

This question I think is in the same vein of Bill’s question, only more speculative, because it involves government.

We are hearing from the Trump administration, did any chance to open up offshore exploration in a number of areas and also did it intends to revisit the prior presidential decisions designating certain areas as monuments and possible permitting business activity in some of those areas for the first time and it also appears that lot of this can be done by presidential [ph] edict (28:56) rather than having to go through Congress.

To what extent might this involves activities which have been off limits before and might not have been explored much or might not have been explored with usable technology or data?.

Rick Wheeler

Actually, David, that’s an excellent question, but I really don’t know, it depends on where these areas are, if they have not been explored and you absolutely need some fresh seismic data to get any kind of idea about what geology you are going to deal with and what sort of resources might be available there.

In the offshore side that would be certainly a room for the marine side of things which has been pretty much decimated across the industry. It would help there and then it sounds like some of these short national monument areas might represent some land areas that certainly might benefit if they haven't been explored for.

It’s hard to tell until those are actually nominated in terms of it..

David Nierenberg

Well, I will let you know what it reads me..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] It appears we have no further questions. At this time, so I will turn the floor back over to Rick Wheeler for any additional or closing remarks..

Rick Wheeler

All right. Well, thanks, Robbie, and we thank everyone that joined our call today and we look forward to speaking with you during our third quarter conference call sometime in August. So, thanks and good-bye..

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. Please disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day..

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