Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the EverQuote's Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.
[Operator Instructions] I'd now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Brinlea Johnson of The Blueshirt Group. Please go ahead, ma’am..
Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to EverQuote's second quarter 2020 earnings call. We'll be discussing the results announced in our press release issued today after the market closed. With me on the call this afternoon is Seth Birnbaum, EverQuote's Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder; and John Wagner, Chief Financial Officer of EverQuote.
During the call, we will make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws, including statements concerning our financial guidance for the third quarter and full year 2020, our growth strategy, and our plans to execute on our growth strategy, key initiatives, our investments in the business, the growth levers we expect to drive our business, our ability to maintain existing and acquire new customers, our recent acquisition, our interest or ability to acquire other companies, our goals for integrations and other statements regarding our plans and prospects.
Forward-looking statements may be identified with words and phrases such as we expect, we believe, we intend, we anticipate, we plan, may, upcoming and similar words and phrases. These statements reflect our views only as of today and should not be considered our views as of any subsequent date.
We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements except as required by law. Forward-looking statements are not promises or guarantees of future performance and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from our expectations.
For a discussion of material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to those contained under the heading Risk Factors in our most recent quarter report on Form 10-Q, which is on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available on the Investor Relations section of our website at investor.everquote.com and on the SEC's website at sec.gov.
Finally, during the course of today's call, we'll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are helpful to investors.
A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures was included in the press release we issued after the close of market today, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.everquote.com. With that I will turn the call over to Seth Birnbaum, EverQuote's Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder. Go ahead, sir..
attracting more high-intent consumers to our marketplace, growing and expanding across insurance verticals, deepening consumer provider engagement and growing provider coverage and budget.
We are expanding our growth levers to incorporate personalized insurance experiences from arrival to policy sale and our digital distribution platform to extend into a direct-to-consumer agency model for specific vertical segments. Today, we’re announcing two new direct-to-consumer initiatives that extend our marketplace in health and life insurance.
We're developing direct-to-consumer, or DTC, agency experiences in our health vertical via an acquisition and in our life vertical through an organically grown agency platform. Each will enhance the consumer shopping experience and coverage options while enabling providers to connect with incremental underserved consumers.
These DTC or direct-to-consumer agency experiences will further deepen our consumer provider engagement and broaden our ability to access the $130 billion commission TAM component of the overall distribution spend in insurance.
I'm excited to share Q2 highlights across our growth levers and key initiatives, including several of these newer developments, which we expect to enhance customer experience, provider coverage and budget. First, attracting more high-intent consumers to our marketplace.
Our traffic teams are executing well, growing consumer quote request volume by 50% year-over-year in Q2. We continue to be successful focusing on channels that bring high-intent consumers to our marketplace and delivering workflow improvements to enhance conversion across our insurance vertical.
Consistent with our historical seasonal patterns, we saw Q2 traffic volume slightly lower than in Q1, and we believe COVID, compounded with recent social unrest, contributed to moderating consumer demand in late Q2. We, however, have seen traffic volume increase in July with strong unit economics.
Consequently, we saw high overall traffic growth in Q2, and we have seen a return to our historically strong Q3 pattern with strong momentum in the current quarter. Overall, we continue to deliver consumer demand and variable marketing margin growth in excess of our long-term model and faster than the secular market shift online.
We believe we are gaining share in insurance shopping online. Additionally, we're excited that early results from recent performance brand tests combining engaging content and marketing creatives to help us develop our brand strategy with positive ROI. Next, growing and expanding across insurance verticals.
In Q2, we had another strong quarter in our non-auto verticals with revenue increasing 133% year-over-year with solid unit economics as we benefited from the network effects of our marketplace and from disciplined investments in our non-auto verticals with increased headcount in the vertical teams.
In Q2, we launched exciting new customer experiences in our home vertical. In addition to scaling integrations and reducing customer friction, we delivered auto and home bundling from the consumer to the provider, enabling end-to-end cross-selling.
Our view is that consumers gain access to a broader panel of the top agents in the market with relevant products and discounts. We see incremental monetization for the bundled referrals, creating wins for our consumer and provider customers as well as our business.
In Q2, we also began to scale an organically developed direct-to-consumer agency experience for the life insurance vertical, which we have been building for months.
Through a sophisticated data-driven sales technology platform, we seamlessly connect underserved life vertical segment specific consumers from arrival to policy sale with licensed agents directly on our marketplace platform and sell life insurance policies on a commission share basis.
Our DTC agency initiatives enable more comprehensive consumer coverage address under and unserved consumer needs help us maximize provider inclusion from the large carriers to individual agents and increase product selection for customers.
We are confident that will ultimately increase bind for user while enabling us to deliver more personalized, better consumer experiences for consumers and providers in our marketplace.
In our health insurance vertical, we announced today that we are acquiring Crosspointe, a data-driven health insurance agency headquartered in Evansville, Indiana, that connects consumers to high-quality health care insurance.
This acquisition positions us to accelerate the growth of our health vertical with a DTC agency capability, enabling improved health insurance vertical customer experience, deep integration, broader carrier distribution and higher monetization with recurring revenue.
Looking ahead to the fourth quarter open enrollment period, we believe we are well positioned to drive significantly higher revenues in our health insurance vertical with our expanded provider coverage and monetization opportunities.
We're building our DTC agency experiences with the vision of bringing together best-in-class agency operations like those of Crosspointe in health with cutting-edge enabling technologies of our marketplace platform, including machine learning and AI as we've launched in our life vertical to create an enhanced and more personalized end-to-end consumer to provider arrival to policy sale experience with greater monetization opportunities and bind or policy sale performance.
Bundling in home and auto as well as DTC agency for life and health enable us to develop user experiences to enhance consumers' insurance shopping journeys, deepen engagement and drive incremental long-term value in our marketplace. We plan to roll out our first log in user experience in Q4 of this year.
Our third growth lever, deepening consumer provider engagement, we are confident that direct-to-consumer agency experiences in our health and life verticals will deepen customer engagement and improve the consumer experience in the insurance shopping journey.
By having EverQuote act as a first-party agent to sell a policy directly to insurance shoppers in these select verticals, we will complement our provider partners in under and unserved segments, delivering a wider range of choice, personalization and end-to-end shopping experiences that further reduce friction. Integrations also reduce friction.
As you may recall, we established the goal of completing deep integrations with 100% of our carriers by the end of this year to improve consumer experience and increase provider bind rates or policy purchase rates to drive up marketplace efficiency. This was one of our key initiatives for 2020.
And at the end of the second quarter, I'm pleased to say we are well on our way to our goal of a 100% deep integrations with 66% of our carrier partners deeply integrated, and we continue to make steady progress. Four, growing provider coverage and budget.
We continue to add more providers and expand our relationships with existing carriers and agents. This quarter over 94% of revenue from carriers came from those who've been on our platform for more than a year.
We added several new customers to our smart campaigns platform where we use machine learning to automate bidding for our carrier partners, resulting in more efficient marketing spend at desired KPI targets.
We also began to offer the option for carriers to bid on our referrals on either an ROI or conversion rate metric to better meet their individual targeting preferences.
Our agency business expanded to 37% of revenues this quarter, up from 24% last quarter, which further diversified our revenue mix and contributed to increased revenue per quote request sequentially.
Our investments to expand agent demand via content marketing, consultative sales, top-notch service and carrier partnerships to name just a few are paying off. Of note, our accelerated growth program, which focuses on larger agencies has ramped up for agents who are increasing their acquisition and marketing spend with us online.
Rounding out key initiatives, data sciences, machine learning, AI, and team building. I'm happy to share some insights into progress. We continue to build our engineering and data sciences capabilities.
As we seek to better leverage our large and rapidly growing data set of consumer and carrier preferences to drive consumer satisfaction and operating leverage.
An example of our work in Q2 includes deploying an internal anomaly detection platform, allowing for faster and more automated issue identification and resolution to improve many aspects of a consumer’s journey, including integrations.
We believe that given our success with team building, we are winning the war for talent, and we're thrilled to be a magnet for top talent. We've been successful hiring while developing current talent to support growth, scale and innovation. EverQuote leaders are raising the performance bar with every hire and promotion.
During Q2, we hired a significant number of full time employees, including 20 engineering tech and data folks.
Notably, we've also added three senior leaders to our team since our last earnings call, Mike Connolly, as SVP of Agency Sales and Customer Success who joined from CarGurus; Tom McDermott, as SVP of Health and Medicare who joined from Wayfair; and Michael Aldous, as VP, Insurance Data and Product Services from Liberty Mutual.
We believe they are continuing to add top talent to the team is another key indicator of our future growth and ability to capitalize on our massive market opportunity.
I also want to take a moment to talk about EverQuote actions related to the important topic of diversity and inclusion, which has been an integral part of our culture since our founding.
We believe that supporting diversity and inclusion is critical to both our success and winning the war for talent and creating an inclusive marketplace for the broadest possible range of insurance consumers.
Like all decisions in our business, our efforts in diversity, equity and inclusion or DEI are data driven and extends to protecting the integrity of our analytics from potential bias. As we continue to grow as a company, we want to ensure that our longstanding commitment to DEI remains integral to our strategic decision making and governance.
Yesterday, we announced that Darryl Auguste, who is foundational in our growth and leads our strategy group and our DEI initiatives was named to our Board. We are confident that our Board's decision making will be enhanced by his presence and counsel.
We viewed DEI and the context of our broader commitment to environmental, social, and governance or ESG considerations in managing our company. Since our founding, we have recognized the importance of incorporating broader social considerations into building a great company, which we believe ultimately drives higher long-term shareholder value.
We look forward to sharing more with you about our efforts around ESG. Finally, I wanted to touch on our strategic plan, which we refer to internally as our path to $1 billion and includes bold bets on initiatives, such as direct-to-consumer agency experiences.
This plan is our internal roadmap for how we plan to build a large and impactful company that can lead and accelerate the digital transformation of the $2 trillion insurance industry online. We're confident that we have the elements and a deterministic path to grow our business to $1 billion of revenue consistent with our long-term model.
In summary, we delivered a solid second quarter with strong execution across our vertical and see continued strength in the business as John will reflect in our guidance.
Our marketplace flywheel is demonstrating progress and resilience with increasing diversity across our team, traffic, verticals, distribution and customer experiences, including direct-to-consumer agency initiatives in life and health insurance.
We are confident that we are better position now than at any point in our history to capitalize on the shift of insurance online.
I would like to thank our customers, our partners, and our shareholders for believing in our vision and for their ongoing support, as well as our terrific employees who each share my passion about EverQuote’s incredible future. Now, I'll turn the call over to John to provide more details on our financial results..
We expect revenues to be between $84 million and $86 million, a year-over-year increase of 27% at the mid point. We expect variable marketing margin to be between $26.5 million and $28 million, a year-over-year increase of 30% at the mid point.
And we expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $4 million and $5 million, a year-over-year improvement of 15% at the midpoint.
For the full year 2020, we're pleased to be increasing our guidance, reflecting the early Q3 momentum through the balance of the year, the impact of the Crosspointe acquisition and incorporating the anticipated organic growth of our health vertical.
We expect revenue to be between $331 million and $336 million, an increase from our prior guidance of $318 million to $327 million. We expect variable marketing margin to be between $101 million and $104.5 million, an increase from our prior guidance of $96 million to $102 million.
And we expect adjusted EBITDA of between $15 million and $17.5 million, an increase from our prior guidance of $12.5 million to $17.5 million. In summary, we delivered solid second quarter financial results in line with our guidance. We're experiencing continued momentum that we were pleased to reflect in our improved outlook.
Seth and I look forward to answering your questions..
[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Ralph Schackart from William Blair. Please go ahead..
Good evening. Thank you for taking the question. I have a couple, if I could. First, Seth, on the DTC new initiatives, both via the Crosspointe acquisition and life insurance program that's homegrown, perhaps you can give us some more color on the strategic rationale for these.
Obviously, a large TAM, but just curious how this is going to interact with the marketplace model. And then any more of these opportunities that you may have going forward that you could perhaps give some perspective on? And then if you could just kind of rewind – I would start with that one..
Yes. No, go ahead..
Maybe just on the quarter, kind of like revisit some of the comments there. I think you had called out some seasonality, obviously, in Q2 on the traffic side but also some maybe pronounced impact from COVID as well as the social unrest in late Q2.
Any way you could help us think about how that traffic rebounded, perhaps quantify in July? And then any perspective which one may have impacted more in the quarter between COVID and/or the social unrest? Thanks..
Sure, Ralph, thanks. And good afternoon. So I'm going to take the first question, and John is going to answer the second question. Our traffic team is doing extraordinary work driving great growth, and there are specific segments where we obviously have more consumer demand than provider supply.
And you can see that in the sort of RPQR, the revenue per quote request, dynamic. The direct-to-consumer agency initiatives, both of them, will actually help us cover these underserved consumers. They certainly can help us lower friction, drive higher revenue per quote request in these specific segments.
And so ultimately, it will enable us to continue to ramp traffic, spin our flywheel more, increasing actual overall consumer demand in the marketplace to benefit everybody. So that includes our partners in the marketplace. So we do expect that the vast majority of consumers to continue to match and connect with partners.
And again, this will enable us to drive incremental growth, especially by increasing the coverage for underserved consumers in these specific segments. As far as sort of incremental DTC segment, right now, we're focused on obviously health and life, and that's what we're working on right now..
Sure. And then, hi Ralph. I'll take the second part. Within Q2, we saw a more challenging consumer environment. Our traffic teams reacted to that. And ultimately, we turned in quote request volumes that were in line with our expectations, albeit at slightly higher cost per quote request. I think more importantly, we saw very good momentum going into Q3.
We've reflected that in our guide. I think when we look at Q3, we see a balanced quarter developing, certainly a quarter that's led by growth in consumer volumes, but I think you'll continue to see good sequential increases in unit economics as well. So I think we saw some turbulence in Q3, and you can connect that to the normal.
Excuse me, Q2, you can connect that to the normal seasonal pattern of Q2. But we also ascribe some connection to consumer distraction from shopping, which is COVID-19 or social unrest. But I think we've seen a Q3 developing that is like Q2, largely consistent with the seasonal pattern, which for Q3 means sequential growth over Q2..
Great. That’s really helpful. Thanks Seth. Thanks John..
And our next question comes from the line of Ron Josey from JMP Securities. Please go ahead..
Great. Thanks for taking the question. And hi Seth, hi John. So I wanted to understand, maybe following up on Ralph's question, the DTC agency model set a little bit more.
Maybe just from the consumer approach, can you just talk about how the consumer experience might evolve here and really the two different channels on the DTC agency versus the marketplace? And then I wanted to ask a little bit on auto revenues. It looked like they declined sequentially around 4.5%.
And just wondering if this has anything to do with what you talked about in civil unrest, et cetera, or is this more of a seasonal thing, which sort of ebbs and flows. Thank you..
Sure. Hi, Ron. Good afternoon. This is Seth. I am going to take the first question on DTC agency, and then Wag will follow up with your question with regards to auto's growth. On DTC agency, it is a consolidated marketplace experience. So consumer arrives.
And if that consumer happens to be in one of the segments that we're covering with the direct-to-consumer agency experience, let's say, we can do it, we can sort of match them by age or coverage needs, basically, they can go through our workflow.
They can get either a curated quote, so a single quote exit matched with a product that serves their needs, or multiple quote exit, and then they can actually connect with an agent directly in our platform either online of offline to purchase insurance. And so these are experiences that we're already building out.
We already have these personalized experiences running in production in life, and it literally takes a consumer who's matched in a specific segment with an undermet need with a very streamlined product that they can purchase online or off-line through one of the agents in our platform. And so that's precisely how it works.
Again, we're confident it will reduce friction, increase coverage and plug us, sort of broaden our exposure to the commission TAM. .
So Ron, on your second question there. We did connect our expectations around Q2 with the normal seasonal pattern, though we were quick to say in the past that we've seen disruption to that seasonal pattern, which is usually a softer Q2 in recent years. And that was really connected to the growth of the other verticals.
So that seasonal pattern of a down Q2 is one that we do associate more with the autos vertical than with these new other verticals, which are growing kind of through any seasonal trend. And that's what you saw within the quarter with the other vertical growing 133% year-over-year.
So we do see kind of the seasonal trend as being most connected to the autos vertical and kind of our historic business. .
I think, Ron, it's also important to note, right, we came in right on our traffic model, right? 50% year-on-year growth for quote request volume in the quarter and sort of right on the button in terms of sort of – maybe at the high end of the model for cost, which, again, we believe, is that compounding effect of COVID and social unrest.
And then simply an air pocket came right out with strong momentum, strong unit economics into Q3..
And your next question comes from the line of [indiscernible] Oppenheimer. Please go ahead..
Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question.
Just first, on the third quarter guidance, is that predominantly organic? And then on the Crosspointe acquisition, I mean, does the majority of that revenue show up in the fourth quarter? Just how should we view the guidance?.
Yes. You've got it, Jed. So third quarter, as we look at the Crosspointe acquisition, we anticipate that closing late in Q3. So we really don't anticipate much contribution within Q3. So what you're seeing there is a strong organic quarter.
As you look at the full year guidance, we've considered the Crosspointe acquisition as well as the momentum that we're carrying into Q3 as well as the contribution from contribution from our own health vertical as well in terms of the full year raise with regard to the full year guidance there..
Okay, thank you. That’s helpful. And then just a couple of things.
On – I mean are you seeing any benefit from the increase in used car sales that we saw in June, July? And then how are you thinking of the large carriers budgets as brand television start – as live events and they start to lean more into branded channels? Just how is that dynamic shaping up for the second half of the year?.
So typically, Jed, we see no connective tissue – little to no connective tissue between car shopping and even auto insurance shopping. A vast majority of the business is renewal, price shopping, triggered by a claims experience, good or bad. And so, again, we don't see much connective tissue.
We grew traffic in Q2 really at the high end of our growth model for traffic with a modestly increased cost per quote request. So we're pretty confident that the consumer demand dynamic and the opportunity to grow consumer demand is evident and right in front of us, and we'll keep executing on it.
With regards to incremental advertising on TV and turning on some of these channels. Again, we see it more as a dimmer switch. It will turn on slowly over time as opposed to a light switch. And there are certain conditions under which incremental off-line advertising actually can drive up online consumer demand as well.
So again, we've sort of considered all this in our model and our guidance, and we're really confident that we set the stage, not just for a strong Q3 but a strong back half of the year..
Okay. And then just one more question. You talked about some of the social unrest maybe causing – impacting your traffic acquisition. The elections coming up. So I mean, how are you going to manage that? Because I guess that would seem to be – it could be potentially as volatile as social unrest online.
So just can you talk about that, too?.
Sure. Again, it is important to emphasize that the traffic teams delivered a significant 50% year-on-year growth. In addition, as you know, we keep diversifying the marketplace, adding traffic sources, expanding our major sort of traffic elements or the sort of different marketing campaigns.
And in fact, In Q2, we saw an increase across the board in all of our traffic operations, certainly, with some highlights in search or industry-specific channels. And again, we didn't so much see traffic moderation because we were able to keep executing against our model.
And I believe that's also related to just our team's increasing an extraordinary ability to execute and demonstrate resilience in the traffic models that we have. And then sort of finally, coming out of that, I'm really confident that we'll be able to continue to execute as we did in Q2, even with the election in view.
And that is a function of increasing diversity, great execution and resilience in the business model or traffic model. .
Thank You..
And your next question comes from the line of Michael Graham from Canaccord. Please go ahead..
Thank you. Hey, everyone.
Does the DTC initiative change your regulatory footprint at all? Do you have to go like state-by-state and get licensed or anything like that? Does it impact your growth trajectory? And then you've talked in the past about sort of tapping you've talked in the past about sort of tapping more into the agent commission TAM in auto, sort of moving beyond advertising budgets.
Do you plan on taking this model to auto as well? And can you just touch on like what are some of the other strategies you have in place to capitalize on the agent commissions TAM in auto?.
Well, sure, let me take your let me take your first question. Hi, Michael. Good afternoon. So as far as the clients, in order to share quote information to basically help folks get insurance, we have been licensed to produce insurance for some time. So we maintain – I believe we maintain licensing in all or most of the states that we operate in.
So we don't expect any kind of sort of bottleneck or growth – any of our growth to be prevented by having to go through licensing because we've done that.
In the health segment, the acquisition of Crosspointe sort of gives us incremental – not just incremental in-market experience but also some incremental licensing around health and appointments with some of the carriers in the specific segments that we're going to serve together with Crosspointe.
As far as plans for DTC in auto, right now, again, there's so much opportunity in these two specific segments that we're announcing today in health and life, so that, that's where we're really focused. And there's always an opportunity with agency partners to evolve the business on more of a commission share basis. So that's always open to us.
We will continue to explore the opportunities as we expand the marketplace for both consumers and providers, and we're going to be focused – laser-focused on growing out the health and life verticals using these new initiatives..
Okay, that’s great. And I’ll just slip in one more. Seth, maybe you can just comment on the macro in auto. I mean, I think we saw a little bit of carriers with maybe a little more money to spend.
How much have you guys factored into your thinking for the balance of the year the possibility that miles driven starts to go up and claims activity starts to go up? And does that impact carrier spending?.
So maybe we'll go backwards through that. Again, we’re confident that by increasing diversity outside of auto by even within auto, having a diversity between the carrier business, the agency business and the DTC distribution businesses, we further increased monetization diversity.
And that, we believe, over the long term, really strengthens the business. As far as the dynamics we're seeing, and again, what we expect through Q3 and back half of the year is we saw even in Q2 and now leading into Q3 increasing monetization. So Q2 revenue per quote was up sequentially from Q1.
We saw that momentum continuing again into Q3 where monetization continues to strengthen. And we believe that reflects really two things.
One is our performance for referrals and – the performance of our referrals for our provider partners, but also our provider partners' appetite to grow their business with us, right, to increase their marketing spend.
As far as what do we expect the impact to be on the provider side of the business, we expect continued strength and demand from the providers.
Now on the consumer side, we did see some modest moderation towards the end of Q2, and that also has just – was just an air pocket come out in both July was very strong, volume and unit economic-wise for consumer demand in auto, and we expect that to continue into the quarter, and it's reflected in our guidance.
As far as how do we expect all these puts and takes to play out, again, I think the effects in terms of turning back on TV, folks driving more because of the way the pandemic was managed in the U.S.
are likely to be more of a dimmer switch turning up than a light switch, and we expect continued strength, both in growing consumer demand and in provider monetization and provider budget demand in the marketplace in Q3 and through the end of the year because it's going to be sort of a slow shift back to normal, if you will..
Okay, sounds good. Thanks so much..
And your next question comes from the line of Mayank Tandon from Needham. Please go ahead..
Thank you. Good evening. Hi, Seth and John. Just a few questions here. I wanted to ask broadly about competition. Your larger peer, or I guess you’re about the same size now in terms of your revenue, has talked about some relative softness versus you. It is what you're showing in your business despite some of the challenges in the second quarter.
Could you talk about what are some of the differences that have helped you maybe come out relatively unscathed so far during the pandemic? And then also just I would love to hear about thoughts if you could comment on some of the emerging – so-called emerging players in this market.
I think there is a lot of like noise around platforms like Zebra, Gabi, et cetera.
Are they making a dent in the market? Or is it sort of so large that it's not really having an impact on your opportunity?.
Sure, Mayank. Let me take that maybe backwards with your second question first and good afternoon. So again, the trend in the business is the secular shift of literally billions of dollars from off-line spend by the insurance industry to online.
A lot of the online agencies, which you just mentioned, and a lot of the insurtechs, some of them who just went public, many of them are either partners or customers of ours because, again, we can help provide them consumers for the specific books of business or the segments that they’re each addressing.
So we’re really well positioned to not just inherit increased marketing spend from the carriers but also partner with these insurtechs and online agencies so they can grow their business profitably, and we do. They are, in essence, especially the names you just mentioned, potential or already incremental budget in our marketplace.
As far as our comp, I think you're referring to Tree, I understand our revenues sort of exceed theirs at this point. But all that having been said, I have no commentary on their operations for insurance, by the way. Not in total, but for insurance, I have no commentary on their operations.
I will say what's different about us is we've taken a tech- and data-driven approach that's really focused on addressing the broadest possible swath of consumers with broad product selection, maximize provider inclusion to basically also maximize conversion rate to a policy, and we think it's a winning formula for an insurance marketplace.
And I think our incremental growth over our peers should demonstrate that..
That’s very helpful background. Also just one question for John.
John, as we think about the second half model, how should we think about the quote request versus revenue per quote request tracking? And then also, do you still expect to see some benefit on the cost per quote? Or is that going to start to trend higher as I think, you mentioned that the – it is still competitive on that side of the market as well?.
Sure. So I think what we think about for Q3 and beyond is really balanced growth, right? We think of that as in recent quarters being driven by quote request volume, but we also expect incremental increases or sequential increases in the unit economics.
And I think that would be led by revenue per quote request, so I think you would expect increases in Q3 in revenue per quote request. I would almost look to Q3 of last year as a more meaningful benchmark than, say, this past quarter in terms of where revenue per quote request could go. But it's still going to be a story that's led by volume increases.
But it's a balanced story with revenue per quote request as well. I think as part of that, whenever we see revenue per quote request increases, that allows us to get a little more aggressive on traffic acquisition, and that usually is a accompanied by an increasing cost per quote request, but often not quite the level of revenue per quote request.
So that usually is reflected in increases in variable marketing margin, which is what we've reflected in our guidance for Q3..
Great, that’s clarified it. Great job guys. Thank you so much..
Thanks Mayank..
Thanks, Mayank..
And your next question comes from the line of Doug Anmuth from JPMorgan. Please go ahead..
This is Ryder on for Doug. Thanks for taking my questions.
I'm wondering what kind of increases you're seeing in bind rates from carriers with deep integrations versus carriers without deep integration and how that translates into revenue per quote request?.
Sure, I think what we’ve discussed publicly and published is that we see an increase – depending upon the depth of the integration, an increase in bind rate or conversion rate to a policy sale of anywhere between 10% at the low end and 41% at the high end.
And we expect that essentially to linearly be reflected in revenue per quote request in two ways. One is just a bit up because now providers actually can recycle higher performance into higher volume.
And then we also feel, or believe you're confident you can leverage integration, specifically deep integrations to increase the number of referrals we make per quote request. So there's two ways that that can drive increasing RPQR as we execute on that..
Great. Thank you..
And your next question comes from the line of Aaron Kessler from Raymond James. Please go ahead..
Great, thanks guys. Maybe just on – be curious to hear your thoughts on what you're seeing in the market for ad pricing, I assume it did improve from Q2 or just in terms of you buying traffic and then, or from Q1, sorry.
And then how much room do you think you further have to improving maybe your efficiency of buying that was obviously a big benefit over the last year? How should we think about that going forward? Maybe finally, just if you can tell how our consumers changing their policies with COVID-19, I assume obviously they're driving less.
Are they ratcheting down kind of their insurance levels? I assume the offset is that insurance companies are more profitable as well. Thank you..
Sure.
Can you just – can you clarify Aaron, did you say efficiency of binds?.
Yes. That was the second question. Yes.
Just how much room do you think you further have to improve your kind of ad buying efficiencies?.
So what we saw and was consistent in Q2 in the non-insurance industry specific channel, we saw pricing soften, and then we saw certainly towards the – throughout the quarter, we saw the specific, and we had talked about this before and we saw industry specific channels again because of the resilience of the industry. We had expected this.
We saw industry specific marketing channels. So relatively, the costs were stable to up as there was some tighter competition and the unit economics were strong throughout.
In terms of overall traffic execution, we stayed focused on continuing to drive higher converting traffic and our channels and saw a modest increase in price towards the end of the quarter, which then sort of cleared out as we entered July.
And we had a very strong July, both in terms of volume, but also in terms of cost dynamics on a per converted basis. As far as the efficiency of binds in the platform, what I can say publicly is year-on-year we've dramatically increased the rate at which we go from an arrival to a quote.
And we do expect that with deep integrations, we will continue to drive up our binder policy sales rate. And that will be reflected back to us as monetization. That's what we believe.
And we have seen monetization not just increase sequentially from Q1 to Q2, but also shows strong momentum and strengthening from Q2 into Q3, which is sort of giving us confidence that that dynamic is underway.
As far as major policy changes, I think what we can say is we do expect people to continue to shop, especially given the economic pressure on them, and they have to tighten their belts and move for policies. They are seeing incremental discounts from a lot of the big carriers to both shop and save as well as renew.
So we expect policy shopping and renewal volumes to remain healthy. And consumers are going to put some incremental money, both from the industry as well as from shopping in their pocket. That's what we believe..
Great. Thank you, Seth..
[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from the line of Michael McGovern from Bank of America. Please go ahead..
Hey, thanks for taking my question. I just want to ask a quick one about the brand strategy and how does the long-term strategy change now with the DTC – with the DTC agency offering? And also would you consider expanding the DTC agency business to more verticals longer term? Thanks..
Sure. Maybe I'll take them a bit out of order. Good afternoon, Michael. So as far as long-term strategy, the DTC agency initiatives really extend our marketplace by deepening provider and consumer engagement and serving underserved consumer segments.
So again, we think ultimately it provides better coverage, which will enable us to drive more traffic and all of our partners will benefit. It also gives us an opportunity to broaden our exposure to the commission TAM, the $130 billion commission TAM in the shift of insurance online.
As far as brand strategy, what we said is our long-term model and we expect to continue to execute with our data driven and tech marketplace model. And we'll extend our growth levers and keep building on our path to a billion.
But we have an opportunity to introduce what we call a performance brand strategy, Michael, which is – gives us the ability to basically leverage increasingly what we call upper funnel advertisement to build out audiences across our specific vertical and it actually further increased conversion rate, not just of our traffic, but downstream to policies.
So we conducted some of – probably really the largest test that we have in our history on building in-market insurance audiences, across several different consumer segments, it was successful and we're going to keep involving – evolving our brand strategy. We do see it as incremental potentially to our long-term model.
And we do expect that any “brand spend” we have to drive positive ROI in our existing marketing channels, which is an important distinction from loss leading brand marketing..
All right, thanks so much..
And currently, I'm showing no questions at this time in the queue..
So I do want to thank everybody for joining us. Our teams, shareholders, investors and analysts, it was a great quarter. We put in place the basis for what we're confident is a strong Q3 and back half of 2020 and into next year. We're more bullish and excited about our business than ever.
And we appreciate everybody's support and participation in our journey. We look forward to taking your questions offline and meeting you at upcoming events. Thank you so much..
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