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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2019 - Q4
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Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the CytomX Therapeutics' Fourth Quarter 2019 and Full Year Financials Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Christopher Keenan, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Chris, you may begin..

Christopher Keenan

Thank you, Lee. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Earlier today, we issued a press release that includes a summary of our recent progress and fourth quarter 2019 and full year financial results. This press release and a recording of this call can be found under the Investors and News section of our website at cytomx.com.

With me today are CytomX's President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman; Dr. Sean McCarthy, CytomX's Chief Development Officer, Dr. Amy Peterson; and CytomX's Vice President of Finance, Robin Knifsend. During today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements.

Because forward-looking statements relate to the future, they are subject to inherent uncertainties and risks that are difficult to predict, and many of which are outside of our control. Important risks and uncertainties are set forth in our most public recent filings with the SEC at sec.gov, including our Form 10-K filed today.

We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments, or otherwise. I would now like to turn the call over to Sean..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Great, thank you very much, Chris and good afternoon everyone. Thanks very much for joining us. It's a pleasure to be here to provide an update on our progress during the fourth quarter and throughout 2019.

I'll begin with an overview and some recent highlights across the pipeline, and we'll then turn the call over to Amy to review our lead CX-072 and CX-2009 programs in more depth. Robin will then review our fourth quarter and full year financial update and I'll wrap-up with upcoming 2020 milestones, before opening up the call for questions.

At CytomX, we see a major opportunity to more effectively target therapeutic antibodies into diseased tissue, generating new classes of anti-cancer therapies.

We believe our unique Probody therapeutic platform represents a fundamental advance and we are highly focused on the discovery and development of a broad clinical pipeline of novel drug candidates to make a meaningful difference in the treatment of cancer.

Our unique science offers the potential for new and highly effective anti-cancer therapies, including potentially best-in-class molecules against validated targets, first-in-class molecules against novel undruggable targets, and new combination therapies.

Probodies are fully recombinant antibody pro-drugs comprised of a therapeutic antibody as a mask designed to block the binding of the antibody to its target until the mask is removed. Mask removal is achieved specifically and selectively within cancer tissue by certain disease-associated proteins called proteases.

This allows us to localize antibody activity into cancer tissue, decreasing target engagement in normal tissues and broadening or in fact even creating a therapeutic window.

We have pioneered this new approach that we see as an important evolution of the therapeutic antibody field with broad potential to improve and optimize a range of antibody formats, including cancer immunotherapies, antibody drug conjugates, and T-cell engaging by specific antibodies.

This is an exciting time for our company, as our pipeline continues to mature, as our partnerships advance and as our research engine continues to produce innovative new molecules. In total today, we have more than 20 programs at various stages of discovery and development within our proprietary pipeline and in collaboration with our partners.

Since our first presentation of clinical data for our platform less than two years ago, we have now generated and presented a wealth of data to support clinical proof-of-concept for our technology, and our three most advanced programs have all recently progressed into focused Phase 2 clinical studies.

We expect to provide several significant data updates throughout 2020. Earlier this week, we announced an important pipeline milestone in our foundational oncology collaboration with Bristol-Myers Squibb. The leading edge of this alliance is the anti-CTLA-4 Probody BMS-986249.

CTLA-4, the target of ipilimumab, is the prototypical checkpoint target, and blocking this mechanism has proven highly effective, both as monotherapy and in combination with PD pathway inhibitors in the broad treatments of patients with melanoma and in many other cancer types.

While a very importance advance, ipilimumab can cause severe immune-related toxicities, creating a clear opportunity for a Probody version of this agent to improve tolerability, increase duration of treatment, and potentially improve activity.

BMS and CytomX have previously presented preclinical proof-of-concept for CTLA-4 Probodies at several major research conferences, and BMS has completed enrollment now in the Phase 1 clinical studies with BMS-986249, the results of which we expect to see presented this year.

As we announced on Monday, BMS has now initiated a randomized Phase 2 expansion study evaluating the tolerability and activity of BMS-986249 plus the PD-1 inhibitor nivolumab, versus nivolumab with or without ipilimumab in metastatic melanoma.

The advancement of BMS-986249 into this study has triggered a milestone payment of $10 million to CytomX from BMS. This is an important study that if positive has the potential to place the ipilimumab Probody on a registrational path.

Moreover, this work is a direct embodiment of exactly what we set out to do with our platform when it was first conceived of, and we are very excited about the potential for cancer patients.

Additional recent progress within our foundational BMS alliance includes the initiation of the dose escalation phase of Phase 1/2a clinical study for a second anti-CTLA-4 Probody, BMS 986288, which is based on a modified version of ipilimumab.

This second clinical Probody program demonstrates BMS' commitment to our technology platform as a way to potentially unlock additional value in the CTLA-4 mechanism.

As these CTLA-4 programs progress through clinical development, potential regulatory approval and commercialization, CytomX is eligible to receive certain milestone payments and royalties and it's important to note that we also continue to work closely with BMS to initiate new discovery programs under this broad-based alliance.

In addition to this progress with BMS, 2019 was a year of many achievements for CytomX within our wholly-owned lead programs; the anti-PD-L1 Probody CX-072 and the anti-CD166 Probody drug conjugate CX-2009. We also advanced a very unique program in partnership with AbbVie, the CD71 targeting Probody drug conjugate CX-2029.

CX-072 is a Probody therapy directed against the validated immuno-oncology target PD-L1. We believe that CX-072 has the potential to become a differentiated foundation for combination anti-cancer therapies by increasing tolerability, achieving optimal dosing and delivering increased anti-cancer activity to improve patient outcomes.

We have shown previously that CX-072 is active as a monotherapy in multiple tumor types and that the Probody has the activity to be expected from a checkpoint inhibitor, providing the first clinical proof-of-concept for our unique platform.

In the fourth quarter, we advanced CX-072 into a Phase 2 clinical trial to further evaluate the activity and tolerability of CX-072 plus ipilimumab in patients with relapsed or refractory melanoma.

Building on our encouraging Phase 1/2 data, this trial is evaluating CX-072 in combination with the full label monotherapy dose and schedule of ipi with a goal of driving meaningful anti-cancer activity in this difficult-to-treat patient population.

We believe this combination has the potential to become a best-in-class regimen not only for melanoma, but potentially other cancer types. Initial data is anticipated from Stage 1 of the Phase 2 study during 2020.

Now, turning to our second wholly-owned drug candidate, CX-2009, a Probody drug conjugate designed to target the previously undruggable target, CD166. CD166 is a unique tumor antigen that is expressed at high levels on most solid tumors, but is also present on most normal tissues, ruling it out as a target for a typical antibody drug conjugate.

We're exploring the ability of a Probody drug conjugate to unlock the potential of this target by focusing anti-cancer activity to tumor tissue and not normal cells.

Based on encouraging Phase 1 clinical data we reported last year, we initiated in Q4 2019 a Phase 2 expansion study of CX-2009 monotherapy in patients with hormone receptor positive HER2 negative breast cancer. This study was initiated in the fourth quarter. Amy will provide more context on this program in a few moments.

Now, returning briefly to our collaborations and specifically within our AbbVie alliance, we continue to enroll patients in the dose-escalation and refinement phase the proclaimed CX-2029 Phase 1/2 study, evaluating monotherapy CX-2029, a first-in-class Probody drug conjugate targeting CD71, and this is in patients with solid tumors.

This is a very novel and ambitious program. CD71's biological role is to function as what we call a professional internalizer, as it moves iron from the extracellular space to intercellular compartments, and it does so in all dividing cells. CD71 is in fact the gold standard internalizer used to assess ADC activity in-vitro.

Now while an attractive target for payload delivery to cancer cells, it has remained undruggable and in fact we have shown that in ADC to CD71 is lethally toxic in preclinical models. In partnership with AbbVie, we have created a Probody drug conjugate CX-2029 in which a masked antibody to CD71 is conjugated to the cytotoxic payload MMAE.

Dose escalation in the clinic was initiated in mid-2018 and is ongoing as we progress towards the selection of a recommended Phase 2 dose. We anticipate the presentation of initial data from this exploratory clinical work in 2020.

Should the study progress to cohort expansions at the recommended Phase 2 dose, we anticipate the presentation of proof-of-concept data in 2021.

For this program, CytomX has responsibility to advance it through initial proof-of-concept, whereupon if successful, the program will transition to AbbVie for registrational studies and ultimate commercialization. CytomX retains profit split and certain co-commercialization rights for this asset.

Before handing the call over to Amy for more detail on our lead programs, I'd like to spend a few moments on two earlier stage programs that are emerging as a potential second wave of IND candidates in our pipeline.

Starting with our collaboration with ImmunoGen, from whom in Q4 we obtained exclusive worldwide development and commercial rights to an EpCAM targeting Probody drug conjugate.

This program was developed utilizing CytomX's Probody technology and ImmunoGen's drug conjugate technology and arose from our previous strategic collaboration between the parties.

At the 2018 European Antibody Congress and also at AACR 2019, ImmunoGen presented encouraging preclinical data demonstrating that an EpCAM Probody drug conjugate has potent activity in in-vivo efficacy models, as well as improved tolerability and exposure compared to an unmasked EpCAM antibody drug conjugate.

CytomX now has full development control and commercial rights for this promising program. Another promising preclinical program on T-cell bispecific Probody targeting EGRF and CD3. This program is partnered with Amgen, with CytomX retaining development control and certain commercial rights.

We're really excited about the prospects for the T-cell bispecific application of Probodies to enable solid tumor targeting of this modality. Solid tumor targeting with unmasked T-cell bispecifics has been very challenging for the field, due to narrow or non-existent therapeutic window.

We anticipate advancing a lead clinical candidate for this program during 2020. So, now let me turn the call over to Amy..

Amy Peterson

Thanks Sean. I'm pleased to be here today to report on the great progress we continue to make with our lead wholly-owned programs CX-072 and CX-2009, including studies that set us up to answer important questions over the next one to two years. Let's begin with our lead program CX-072.

As previously reported, patient enrollment is complete for the Part D expansion cohort, starting in CX-072 at the dose of 10 milligrams per kilogram administered intravenously every two weeks to patients with multiple tumor types and we expect to present a summary of our finding from these expansion cohorts this year.

Data presented to date most recently at ASCO 2019, showed that CX-072 functions as a checkpoint inhibitor, demonstrating encouraging activity where one would expect to see it with such agents, including triple negative breast cancer, anal squamous cell carcinoma, and cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma. CX-072 tolerability appears favorable as well.

And while numbers are too small to be clinically significant, trends towards lower rates of immune-mediated adverse events have been observed. Clinical pharmacokinetic and biopsy data has shown that the CX-072 Probody behaves as designed.

That is it remains masked in the circulation and becomes unmasked in tumor tissue, resulting in intra-tumoral saturation of the target and anti-tumor activity.

These findings provide an important clinical proof-of-concept for our platform and a strong rationale for differentiation of CX-072 from other PD inhibitors, and support combination strategies with other anti-cancer agents.

Given that combination therapy is likely to be required to make continued significant improvements in patient outcomes, we are focusing our efforts on CX-072 combinations, and in the immediate term, specifically, on the combination of CX-072 with ipilimumab.

During our last quarterly update, I cited multiple clinical trials evaluating regimens involving a PD inhibitor plus a CTLA-4 inhibitor where significant reductions in dose intensity of either agent, although more commonly with the CTLA-4 inhibitor, have been required in order to maintain a tolerable safety profile for patients.

There are multiple studies demonstrating dose-dependent anti-cancer activity from ipilimumab. To-date, no one has been able to combine full doses of CTLA-4 inhibition with full doses of PD inhibition.

We are interested to determine the extent to which our Probody platform can enable the combination of full dose PD inhibition here in the form of CX-072 plus full dose ipilimumab.

Accordingly in Q4 2019, we advanced into an open-label non-randomized multi-center Simon 2 Stage Phase 2 trial of CX-072 in combination with ipilimumab in patients with advanced melanoma who have previously progressed on a PD pathway inhibitor.

In this Phase 2 trial, patients are receiving ipilimumab at its full approved monotherapy labeled dose and schedule of 3 milligrams per kilogram every three weeks for four cycles, plus CX-072 at a fixed dose of 800 milligrams every three weeks for four cycles.

Upon completion of this combination, patients can receive continued treatment with 800 milligrams of CX-072 monotherapy administered intravenously every two weeks.

The primary objective of this study is overall response rate with a secondary objective being safety, tolerability and other markers of clinical activity, including progress-free and overall survival, as well as the duration of response in those patients achieving partial and/or complete responses.

Stage 1 of this trial aims to enroll up to 40 patients, and we hope to have initial data from this stage of the study in 2020. To summarize, there are now two important studies underway evaluating Probodies in patients with melanoma.

Each study is designed to show how these novel combinations can improve tolerability and lead to better outcomes for patients. There is a lot to learn from each study, most importantly the ability this platform offers to improve the risk benefit from I-O-based therapy in people with cancer.

We're excited about these two studies and look forward to learning from each. I'd like to now turn attention to CX-2009, our Probody drug conjugate targeting CD166, an ADC with a Probody mask.

In the fourth quarter of 2019, we initiated an open-label non-randomized multi-center Phase 2 study of CX-2009 monotherapy in up to 40 patients with hormone receptor ER/PR positive and HER2 negative breast cancer. This subtype of breast cancer remains a substantial area of unmet medical need.

And in this study, CX-2009 is being administered intravenously at 7 milligrams per kilogram every three weeks to this population. The initiation of this expansion study follows our presentation of encouraging dose escalation Phase 1 data at AACR 2019.

As you heard from Sean, CD166 is widely expressed, both on tumor and normal tissue; precluding the development of a CD166 targeting antibody drug conjugate due to expected systemic toxicities. We have leveraged our Probody technology to mitigate binding of CX-2009 to normal tissue, thereby creating a therapeutic window for this novel target.

Our Phase 1 dose escalation trial was designed to gain a comprehensive look at the safety profile of this novel drug candidate, as well as assess exploratory markers supporting the hypothesis behind this platform.

While not expected in a dose escalation study in a heavily pretreated and heterogeneous patient population, preliminary signs of single agent anti-cancer activity were observed and presented at AACR 2019. As a reminder, the payload conjugated to CX-2009 is DM4, a maytansine derivative.

Based on work conducted by ImmunoGen from whom we licensed the payload, the toxicities associated with DM4 are well-documented and are predominantly ocular and/or neuropathic in nature.

Payload toxicities typically define the MTD of drug conjugates and it's important to note that we would expect this to be the same for Probodies as for antibodies, since in the Probody it is the antibody that is masked, not the payload.

Our conjugate strategy is to drug undruggable targets by achieving the maximum tolerated dose of the payload, but without the serious on-target off-tumor toxicities. Specifically with CD166, we are seeking to avoid on-target toxicities expected to occur in organs where CD166 is highly expressed, for example, in colon, pancreas and lung.

And indeed, we were able to escalate up to 10 milligrams per kilogram, a dose that to our knowledge has never been previously administered with any ADC. We did, as expected, observe payload toxicities, including keratitis and neuropathy.

Taken together, these findings demonstrate clearly that our masking strategy was effective in protecting against on-target off-tumor toxicities.

And what was even more encouraging, as we reported at AACR in 2019, was that in patients who received more than or equal to 4 milligrams per kilogram of CX-2009, 38% achieved tumor shrinkage and 74% achieved stable disease or better at the time of the first on-treatment scan.

Observed anti-cancer activity included seven unconfirmed partial responses in breast cancer, including HER2 negative hormone receptor positive breast cancer, ovarian cancer and head and neck cancer.

This risk benefit profile compares well to early Phase 1 experience for other ADCs that have advanced into registrational studies and supports the further development of this asset.

We anticipate announcing more complete data from the CX-2009 Phase 1 dose escalation trial in 2020 and we anticipate initial data from the breast cancer Phase 2 expansion trial in 2021. We're also very interested in the potential of CX-2009 plus CX-072 combination.

When we think about the types of therapies that have been most successfully combined with PD inhibitors in terms of improvements and risk benefit profiles, we can't ignore the improved outcomes that have been observed in combination with cytotoxic agents. Furthermore, there's growing evidence that PD inhibition can be successfully combined with ADCs.

We therefore also plan to evaluate the tolerability of the combination of CX-072 plus CX-2009 to identify a combination dose and regimen to advance in indications where both agents have demonstrated single-agent activity.

Turning to our organization, we continue to strengthen the development capabilities of the company and most recently announced the appointment of Dr. Alison Hannah to the role of Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer, reporting directly into me.

Alison joins my team with 30 years of relevant experience in clinical drug development in oncology and malignant hematology.

Prior to joining us, she led her own consultancy, where she advised pharmaceutical and biotechnology clinical teams, resulting in successful filing of over 40 regulatory applications for first-in-human clinical testing, while also playing significant roles in the broad marketing approvals of eight therapeutics, including extensive experience interacting with global health and regulatory authorities.

I've been fortunate to have worked with Alison during my time at BeiGene and Medivation, and look forward to her many contributions during this important time in the advancement of our pipeline at CytomX. I will now turn the call over to Robin for a review of financials..

Robin Knifsend

Thank you, Amy. I would like to review selected financial highlights for the year 2019. We ended the year with cash, cash equivalents and investments totaling $296.1 million, compared to $436.1 million as of December 31st, 2018.

Our strong balance sheet allows us to comfortably fund operations into the second half of 2021, assuming no new collaborations and/or financings. Research and development expenses were $132 million for the year, compared to $104 million in the corresponding period in 2018.

The increase was primarily attributable to additional costs related to our maturing pipeline, including personnel related expenses.

In 2019, we incurred approximately $16 million of non-recurring charges related to the acquisition of technological knowhow, license fees to UCSB associated with entering into the amendment with UCSB and the license fee for the EpCAM program.

General and administrative expenses were $37 million compared to $34 million in the corresponding period in 2018. Revenue for the year was $57.5 million, compared to $59.5 million in the corresponding year.

The decrease was primarily due to a $13.1 million decrease in revenue from AbbVie under the CD71 co-development and licensing agreement relating to the $21 million milestone payment net of associated license fees earned in May 2018 of which $11.7 million was recognized in 2018.

In addition, there is a slight decrease in revenue under our agreement with Amgen and decreases relating the Pfizer and ImmunoGen collaborations, which concluded in 2018.

The decreases were partially offset by an increase in revenue from Bristol-Myers Squibb due to the accelerated revenue recognition related to the cessation of research on certain targets under our agreement with Bristol-Myers Squibb in the first quarter of 2019. With that, I will turn the call back over to Sean..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks Robin. So, in closing, let me briefly review our anticipated 2020 milestones. For CX-072, our PD-L1 Probody, we anticipate presentation of final monotherapy data for the expansion arms in multiple selected tumor types, building on our ASCO 2019 presentations of last year.

We also for the CX-072 ipi combination in relapsed or refractory melanoma, we anticipate initial data from Stage 1 of the ongoing Phase 2 study.

For CX-2009, our CD166 targeting Probody drug conjugate, we anticipate presentation of updated Phase 1 dose escalation and dose ranging data to support the dose and indication selection for the ongoing Phase 2 study you heard about today.

And then for CX-2029, our CD71 Probody drug conjugate, we anticipate initial data from the Phase 1 dose escalation portion of the Phase 1/2 study with additional proof-of-concept data from expansion cohorts targeted for 2021, assuming that the program transitions to that stage.

Also and as I mentioned earlier on in my remarks, we do anticipate that BMS will present the Phase 1 data for the ipi Probody BMS-986249 sometime this year, and that of course will be the data that has supported the announcement that we made this week regarding their entry into the randomized Phase 2 study of the ipi Probody that we're all very, very excited about.

So, thanks, everyone, for taking some time to join us today. It's obviously been a turbulent day out there in the markets. But we're very pleased with the broad progress we've made at CytomX last year and continuing into this year, both with our very unique technology platform and also with our advancing and deepening clinical pipeline.

And all of us on the CytomX team are excited for an eventful 2020 ahead. So, I think with that, we'll turn the call back to Chris for Q&A..

Christopher Keenan

Lee, I think we're ready to open the call for questions..

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Your first question is from Christopher Marai from Nomura Instinet. Your line is now open..

Christopher Marai

Hi, thanks for taking the question and congrats on the progress. I was wondering if you could touch upon -- on the CD166 2009 Probody program. You updated us on the path forward there, including HER2 negative HR positive breast cancer. And that will constitute your expansion cohort in the Phase 2.

Could you maybe elaborate a little bit on the potential path to approval that could emerge from that and how that might look? Is there a go-no-go decision that you're looking for? And then how might this fit into the evolving treating paradigm here? Obviously, other therapies are looking for approval in this setting as well. Thank you..

Amy Peterson

Sure. Thanks Christopher, this is Amy. Thanks for your question. Yes, so this study just to recap, the first part of the study we'll evaluate 40 patients with hormone receptor positive HER2 negative breast cancer.

While we can't disclose the details around the eligibility criteria, what I can say is we have taken a sharp eye to that to ensure that the patient population is one that would be something that we could take forward to global health authorities, should be see activity commensurate with taking the molecule forward.

And it is in patients who have received hormonal-based therapy. We recognize that other treatments are emerging and we always have an eye to that. But at this point in time, I can't really divulge further details around specifics of eligibility criteria. .

Christopher Marai

Okay. Then just to follow-up perhaps a bit, the expansion component of the trial I assume would not be registration-directed. At what point does CytomX make a go-no-go decision on this and run out a Phase 3 and even the population that you may be selecting in this expansion cohort? Thank you..

Amy Peterson

Sure. Thanks for the follow-on. So, you're right. With 40 patients, that's not registrational. However, depending on what we see and depending on our discussions with health authorities, it could potentially lead to something that is registrational if we have the right sample size, if that answers the question..

Christopher Marai

Yes. And then just the go-no-go on data here, what do you want to see in those 40 patients? Then I'll jump back in the queue. Thank you..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think, Chris, as I mentioned, our goal there is to have initial data on this first 40 patients in 2021 and obviously, we'll take a look at that data and decide the path forward..

Christopher Keenan

Next question Lee..

Operator

Your next question is from Mohit Bansal from Citi. You line is now open. Your line is now open..

Unidentified Analyst

Hi, this is James on for Mohit. It looks like Bristol now has 986288 and 986249 in trials.

Can you remind us how these two CTLA-4s differ and any insight on BMS' strategy to explore both?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, hi James. Absolutely. So, 249 is the Probody version of ipi itself. And I think as we've laid out that's the program that's being advanced into the randomized Phase 2 study. And that was the first Probody targeting CTLA-4 that we made with BMS in this alliance.

288 is, as we've said, a modified version of ipi that is designed to be more active than the parental antibody. I'm expecting them to probably say a bit more about this program this year, as the new leadership within BMS get their arms around these programs. So we're not at liberty to say too much about it.

But we've made a Probody version of that modified ipi, and that has now also gone into Phase 1 dose escalation. So, as I said in my prepared remarks, the fact that they're putting one program now in Phase 2 and the other is moving into Phase 1, I think it really underscores a couple things.

It underscores their continued commitment to CTLA-4 as a target and it very much underscores their interest and commitment to our technology..

Unidentified Analyst

Thank you. I've just got a follow-on. The press release mentioned the EGFR T-cell bispecific with Amgen is going to be advancing in 2020.

Can you highlight what sort of developments have been made and then if we'll be seeing any preclinical data this year?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We presented some preclinical data previously, as you may have seen in poster form. So, the basic concept and the basic proof-of-concept behind EGFR CD3 has been presented. What we've been doing with Amgen for the last couple years is really working through the detailed protein engineering and molecular biology of how to optimize that format.

And as I'm sure you know, there's a lot to that and there's a lot of different formats to sort through, a lot of geometry to get right in terms of the activity of the two arms of this type of bispecific.

And all I can say is that we've made good progress and we do expect to move towards lead clinical candidate stage over the course of this year with Amgen. One other note is, as I mentioned, we do at CytomX, much in the AbbVie alliance, we retain development control for this program through proof-of-concept.

So, we'll be filing the IND once we get to the point at having a clinical candidate that we agree to move forward with our partner..

Unidentified Analyst

Fantastic. Thank you for taking the questions..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

Your next question is from Terence Flynn from Goldman Sachs. .

Unidentified Analyst

Hi, this is Holly on for Terence. Thanks so much for taking the question.

Two for us, one, so as we look towards the data from Stage 1 of the Phase 2 study of CX-072, which is especially [ph] later this year, what do you need to see in order to move that program into Stage 2 of the Phase 2 study? And then secondly on CX-2009, beyond the breast cancer indication that you outlined, what other tumor types might be appropriate for this treatment, considering the risk-benefit profile demonstrated thus far? Thanks..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the questions, Holly. I'll be happy to turn those over to Amy..

Amy Peterson

Okay, great. So, as far as the Stage 1 of the Phase 2 study for CX-072, what we would need to see to move forward, I don't think we're actually giving guidance on what sort of response rates we would need to see.

However, I will say that from the data that is available in the public domain, response rates have been around the 20s and in some cases using immune resist as high as 45%. And we are well-aware of those and looking to see where we benchmark to that.

For CD166 program, additional indications, as I sort of alluded to in the transcript, we saw monotherapy activity with patients in head and neck, triple negative breast cancer, hormone receptor positive HER2 negative breast cancer, and in the 2019 presentation there are other indications where tumor volume reductions were observed, for example, in ovarian cancer.

And what we might think about then are moving forward into those indications where we at least observe activity with our agent. But at this point in time, we're focusing on the hormone receptor positive HER2 negative breast cancer population, which you probably know very well, is about 60% of all of patients with breast cancer.

And at this point in time, there is no ADC approved in this particular indication. And then when it comes to CX-2009 in combination with 072, what I alluded to in the transcript is we would look to indications where either have had single-agent activity and think about bringing the combination forward in those indications.

But we haven't disclosed what those indications are yet..

Christopher Keenan

Lee, I think we're ready for the next question..

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from Terence Flynn -- it's from Mara Goldstein from Mizuho. Your line is now open..

Mara Goldstein

Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. Thanks for the additional color on the 2029 program. I just had a question with respect to the biomarker arm in that study and if you can provide a little bit more insight into that and when you might have information.

And as well, given the novelty of this particular target, how should we think about it in terms of the sort of focus of tumor types, even though I certainly respect it's a solid tumor study? And then secondarily, I know you've spoken to Bristol having data on the 249 program sometime this year.

Do you have any particular insight as to what venue that might be?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hey Mara, thanks for the questions. I'll take the second question first, can't comment on that unfortunately. They're working that through, but appreciate the question. Regarding 2029, so our guidance at this point, so this is a big idea, this target. It's a very exciting target.

And as I've said before, what we're doing is a pretty careful thoughtful dose escalation with a target. As we've demonstrated pre-clinically, if you don't mask it, it's actually extraordinarily toxic, in fact, lethal. So, we're taking it carefully to learn about this molecule in patients.

And what we're working towards presenting this year is initial safety data from Phase 1 dose escalation. The biomarker biopsy data would come a little later in the study as we move to not quite to expansion stage, but the upper range of the dose escalation, so probably no biomarker data this year..

Mara Goldstein

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Your next question is from Robert Burns from H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open..

Robert Burns

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. So, I just wanted to circle back on the CX-072 plus Yervoy Phase 2 study. So considering that Idera Pharmaceuticals is currently running a Phase 3 for their asset, IMO-2125 plus Yervoy versus Yervoy in anti-PD-1 or L1 refractory melanoma patients after achieving a 24% objective response rate in their Phase 2.

Could you comment about the sort of efficacy benchmark you believe you would have to hit in your Phase 2 trial for CX-072 plus Yervoy in order for your Phase 2 trial to potentially be registrational in nature? And then I have one follow-up after..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Robert, great question. And yes, we've obviously noted that data and I'll hand over to Amy..

Amy Peterson

Okay, great. Right, so as far as what we would need to see in the Phase 2 single arm study, what we would need to see to make it registrational in and of itself, it's hard to pinpoint. Obviously, they went forward with a Phase 3 with a response rate of 24% and we're encouraged certainly by that.

And so for registrational standalone, we're probably looking at something upwards of 24%, right? However, we do see that it certainly gives us justification to move forward into larger randomized studies, as they did. And we'll see what happens with their data, which I think we're expecting in 2022 from the Phase 3..

Robert Burns

Okay. Thank you for that. And then one more from me, so I just I'm curious as to how you see that sort of indication, the anti-PD-1 refractory melanoma patient setting evolving over time, when we consider some of the assets and combinations we see moving into that space. Thanks..

Amy Peterson

Let me make sure I understand your question.

So, it's how does the anti-PD-1 refractory patient population evolve as other agents are moving into the space?.

Robert Burns

Yes, I'm sort of curious as to how you see that sort of treatment pattern sort of evolve, considering all the data we're seeing from multiple different assets, just from a landscape perspective; your thoughts on it..

Amy Peterson

Yes, I guess first, nothing is yet approved. And so while there might be a lot of people dabbling in this space and testing in this space, I think until we have approvals, this space is open. And I guess I'm not quite sure what additional flavor you're looking to get from us on that..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Robert, maybe just one additional -- sorry. Go ahead..

Robert Burns

No, I'm sorry, Sean for cutting you off. Go ahead..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I was just going to add that we've moved into this patient population in large part of course because of the substantial unmet medical need. That could shift over time, right, if some of these other approaches are successful and if they move a lot faster than us, then we have to carefully monitor that.

But we see this particular patient population as an opportunity to run a study reasonably quickly in an area of unmet medical need, where by the way, the combination that we're evaluating may afford advantages over others.

Because we know for example, the depth and durability of response that can be afforded with this, still the only I-O/I-O combination that's been approved. It can be very impressive and very meaningful for patients. And so I think we'll just have to see how it unfolds.

We haven't, as you well know, we haven't committed at this stage to large randomized study. We wanted to take it one step at a time. But we'll closely monitor the field and see how it unfolds..

Robert Burns

Awesome. Thanks guys..

Operator

Your next question is from Etzer Darout from Guggenheim. Your line is now open..

Etzer Darout

Great. Thanks for taking the question. Just a couple of questions from me.

First on CX-2009, just wondered if you could talk a little bit about the population that the study you're going into, the hormone receptor positive HER2 negative population as far as sort of response rate expectations and how we can think about what sort of the clinical hurdle is in that setting.

And then secondly, just wondered, given that we've seen Opdivo CTLA-4 combinations being successful beyond melanoma, if there's any expectations that Bristol could take programs forward beyond just the melanoma expansion. Thanks..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Let me answer the second question first. And thanks very much for the questions. And I'm sure Amy will be happy to take the second on the 2009 patient population. So, obviously, BMS has made a pretty substantial commitment to the melanoma, the randomized melanoma study. I can't comment on what their thoughts might be in terms of other indications.

But as we've said, with our combination, of 072 plus ipi, we do see opportunities beyond melanoma that we could potentially move into. And the team, Amy and Alison and the team are very actively working those through, so no specific update at this point, but we certainly see additional opportunity on our side..

Amy Peterson

Great. And then I'll address your first question, which was I think trying to better understand what response rate we might be benchmarking to in this patient population, given the competitive landscape. So, I can't give guidance on what response rate we're benchmarking to.

I mean it's known that hormone receptor positive HER2 negative breast cancer responses are not as easy to have with chemotherapy or with other agents, which doesn't mean that these patients aren't getting benefit. So, we will be looking at a couple of things in addition to response rates.

Clinical benefit rate, for example at 24 weeks, is often used to assess whether or not the drug is doing anything. And when it comes to other drugs moving in the area, there are certainly drugs moving in and there are drugs moving out, and CDK4/6 inhibitors, for example, are possibly moving to adjuvant spaces.

Sacituzumab, we're interested to see what ultimately happens with that. But we don't anticipate that data for quite some time. So, I can't give you a number..

Etzer Darout

No, that's fair. Thank you..

Operator

Your next question is from Biren Amin from Jefferies. Your line is now open..

Biren Amin

Yes, hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe I guess one more, Sean, on the refractory melanoma trial. I think on this call you talked about a 20% to 24% ORR is a good benchmark.

How do you position that if we look at the 14% ORR that was presented by FDA? I think they published this data in Lancet in 2017 in about 2,500 patients that fail PD-1, but continued to be treated with PD-1 post-progression. So, essentially you're getting a 14% ORR on PD-1 after they progress.

So, do you think a 20% to 24% ORR in that population with the combo would be a differentiator? Thanks..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hi Biren, good question. I want to be clear though. I mean we're not guiding to -- I don't think we did specifically guide to a 20% to 24% response rate on this call. I think what we said when we look at the -- and by the way, that data that you cite is of course interesting in terms of continued PD therapy in failures.

But what we're saying, let me try to be as clear about this as I can be, is that if we look at the published evidence or the publicly available evidence for how patients who have been pretreated, treated previously with a PD inhibitor, how they fare on a PD-CTLA-4 combination. Those response rates are in the 20% to 40% range.

And the landscape is shifting, as Robert asked and other have asked, right, with other combinations in this patient setting. So, the bar is probably getting higher, not lower. So, we'll do the best we can do and we're obviously looking for the best response rate we can get. But we're not specifically guiding 20% to 24%, just to be clear.

We have to do better..

Biren Amin

Okay, that's helpful. And then on the EpCAM, can you just talk about this is a target that is also expressed on normal cells.

And can you just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the animal data and whether that will correlate in terms of off-target toxicity?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

This is on EpCAM. Yes, so we're really interested in this target. And you know, ImmunoGen has been for some time, as you know. And just the program became available in the context of ImmunoGen's strategic reprioritization last year. So, we were able to negotiate to bring it back into CytomX.

So, the target, it's been thought of for a very long time as a very good cancer target. It's actually a reasonably well-validated target in that there is data out there, there's Phase 2 data for a fusion protein, an EpCAM targeting fusion protein, which actually is a different kind of a toxin.

It's a recombinant toxin fusion that is quite effective in Phase 2. So, we know this target can work. The preclinical data has shown that the -- and again, ImmunoGen just presented this. The ADC is quite toxic. It induces a range of toxicities, including in the skin.

The Probody is protected in that regard and yet the Probody retains the anti-cancer activity of the underlying ADC, just like our Probody drug conjugates do. So, it's an interesting and exciting program. We've just brought it back into the company.

So, we're in the process of evaluating the data to decide what our timeline is going to be for moving that program forward. But we think it's a really interesting market..

Biren Amin

Okay. Thank you..

Amy Peterson

The indications where it is clinically validated, it's in bladder cancer. And they're actually moving it -- they moved into a pivotal study. Additionally, EpCAM as a naked antibody is used for the treatment of ascites and ovarian cancer in certain regions of the world.

So, there are two clinically validated areas where EpCAM has demonstrated activity resulting in continued progress forward to registration studies or approval..

Biren Amin

Great. Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Your next question is from Joe Catanzaro from Piper Sandler. Your line is now open..

Joe Catanzaro

Hey guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple quick ones from me.

Would you be able to say how many patients enrolled into the dose ranging portion of the 2009 Phase 1 study and whether we should expect that cohort of patients to be less heavily pretreated than six or seven prior lines of therapy for the initial dose escalation cohort?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Hey Joe, it's Sean. Just let me make sure I understand the question.

So, you're asking about the Phase 1 study enrollment, right?.

Joe Catanzaro

So yes, so like the dose optimization that you had done in implementing the prophylaxis measures for ocular toxicity..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Right, yes. So, again, I've got all this to present in a pretty comprehensive update on all of that work sometime this year. What I can say is that the patient population really throughout the work that we did that led to the selection of dose and indication was all done in pretty late-stage patients.

And so now, as we're moving into the Phase 2 expansion, the team has revised our enrollment criteria and is working hard to tighten up that patient population relative to the Phase 1. So, I don't want to comment on specific numbers at this point, but it should become clearer as the year goes on..

Joe Catanzaro

Okay, got it. And then maybe following up along those lines, I know it was kind of asked earlier.

But with Phase 1 dose escalation and optimization complete, what triggers via expansion of additional cohorts beyond the initial hormone receptor positive cohort that you just kicked-off?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, no one thing, really. I think it could be additional data. It could be thinking about priorities across the portfolio. Of course it would be data that we've already seen from the Phase 1. So, it's something that we're looking at in real-time, and particularly Amy and Alison now that they're here and firmly on board, are looking at very closely..

Joe Catanzaro

Okay, great. That's all I have. Thanks for taking my questions..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You bet..

Operator

Your next question is from Varun Kumar from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open..

Varun Kumar

Hey good evening everyone and thanks for taking the questions. First on CX-2029, I understand the toxin used in this one is MMAE versus DM4 being used in 2009.

Can you provide some context as to how we should think about the MMAE [Indiscernible] or when we see the first data and some of the off-target that we should expect from the initial data?.

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question Varun. If I could paraphrase your question to some extent, it might be would we expect to see ocular toxicities with MMAE. The answer there is that we probably wouldn't expect it, based on the wealth of clinical experience with that payload. Ocular toxicity is a particular consideration with DM4 and the maytansines.

So, the toxicities with MMAE that are best characterized are hematologic in nature, neutropenia, anemia and then also neuropathy. So, those would be the kinds of things that we'd be looking out for in the Phase 1 study..

Varun Kumar

Thanks Sean. And just maybe one question on the 072 combo.

Any color on inclusion criteria being used based on Yervoy, prior Yervoy therapy in the patient?.

Amy Peterson

When you say the 072 combo, you're referring to the ipilimumab combo. And right, we are not allowing prior CTLA-4 exposure..

Varun Kumar

Okay.

So, all the enrolled patients will be CTLA-4 naive enrolled cohort?.

Amy Peterson

Correct..

Varun Kumar

Okay, great. Thank you, Sean and thank you, Amy. Congrats on the progress..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome..

Amy Peterson

Thank you..

Christopher Keenan

So, we're reaching the top of the hour and I don't see any more questions. I'm going to turn the call back over to Sean..

Sean McCarthy Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, great. Thanks Chris. Well, once again, 2019 was a very big year for the company, very important for advancements across the pipeline. And I think we're off to a great start in 2020. So, thanks for your time and we'll talk to you next time..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day. You may all disconnect. Good bye..

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