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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2020 - Q3
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Operator

Thank you for joining today's Capital Southwest Third Fiscal Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. Participating on the call today are Bowen Diehl, CEO; Michael Sarner, CFO; and Chris Rehberger, Vice President, Finance. I will now turn the call over to Chris Rehberger..

Chris Rehberger Executive Vice President & Treasurer

Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current conditions, currently available information and management's expectations, assumptions and beliefs.

They are not guarantees of future results and are subject to numerous risks, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Capital Southwest's publicly available filings with the SEC.

The company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events, changing circumstances or any other reason after the date of this press release, except as required by law. I will now hand the call off to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Bowen Diehl..

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Chris, and thank you everyone for joining us for our third quarter fiscal year 2020 earnings call. Throughout our prepared remarks, we will refer to various slides in our earnings presentation which can be found on our website at www.capitalsouthwest.com.

We are pleased to be with you this morning to announce our quarterly results for the third fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2019.

During the quarter, we continued to advance our credit strategy, achieving the final step in transitioning the BDC to solely a middle market lender with successful sale of Media Recovery, which as a reminder does business under the banner SpotSee.

The sale was a great outcome for Capital Southwest as we realized a significant capital gain while strengthening the company's position as a more traditional yield oriented BDC, by removing the potential NAV per share volatility from holding such a large equity investment in the portfolio.

As you likely recall, we've been discussing the potential sale for several quarters, and we'll provide further details later in our prepared remarks.

We are excited to have achieved this final step and look forward to continuing the pursuit of our core investment strategy of building a predominantly lower middle market portfolio consisting largely of first lien senior secured debt with equity co-investments across the loan portfolio where we believe significant equity upside opportunity exists.

Executing this strategy under our shareholder friendly internally managed structure closely aligns the interest of our Board and management team with that of our fellow shareholders, in generating sustainable long-term value through recurring dividends, capital preservation and operating cost efficiency.

During the December quarter, as laid out on Slide 6, we generated $0.44 per share of pre-tax net investment income, and paid out a regular dividend of $0.40 per share during the quarter.

We also paid out $0.10 per share in a quarterly supplemental dividend funded by our sizable, undistributed taxable income balance or UTI, which was generated by excess income and capital gains accumulated from our investment strategy to-date.

The realized gain on sale of Media Recovery allowed us to add approximately $0.50 per share to our UTI balance, bringing the total balance to approximately $27.6 million for $1.48 per share as of December 31, 2019. We believe this provides visibility to the continuation of the quarterly supplemental dividend program well into the future.

During the quarter, we also paid out a special dividend of $0.75 per share, which was the distribution of a portion of the Media Recovery realized gain. Total shareholder dividends for the quarter were $1.25 per share. We were also pleased to announce that our Board has declared an increase to our quarterly regular dividend to $0.41 per share.

Our Board also declared another quarterly supplemental dividend of $0.10 per share, bringing our total dividends paid to shareholders to $0.51 per share for the March quarter.

During the December quarter, we grew our portfolio on a net basis to $559 million from $539 million as of the end of the September quarter, originating approximately $92 million in investments for the quarter. The vast majority of which were deployed in the lower middle market.

From a capitalization perspective, we continue to derisk the balance sheet by diversifying capital sources and maintaining liquidity. During the quarter, we raised an additional $10 million on our existing 5-year 5.375% institutionally placed bonds due 2024. The aggregate principal amount for this debenture is now $75 million.

In addition, we raised $13.8 million in gross proceeds through our Equity ATM Program during the quarter, selling over 623,000 shares at a weighted average price of $22.07 per share, representing a 21% premium to the September 2019 net asset value per share.

We are pleased to report that since the initiation of our Equity ATM Program, Capital Southwest has sold over 1.3 million shares at attractive premiums to book value, raising approximately $29 million in gross proceeds.

Our Equity ATM Program continues to provide a steady flow of equity capital raised on a just-in-time basis in lockstep with our ability to thoughtfully put the capital to work. Including cash and undrawn commitments on our balance sheet credit facility, we had dry powder of $190 million at quarter end available to deploy in future investments.

This dry powder, when invested, represents a 34% increase in our portfolio investment assets. Turning to slides 7 and 8, we illustrate our continued track record of producing a strong dividend yield, consistent dividend coverage and value creation since the launch of our credit strategy.

Turning to Slide 9 as a reminder, our investment strategy has remained consistent since its launch in January 2015. We continue to focus on our core lower middle market, while also maintaining the ability to invest in the upper middle market, when attractive risk adjusted returns exists.

In the lower middle market, we directly originate opportunities consisting of debt investments and equity co-investments. Building out a well performing and granular portfolio of equity co-investments is important to driving NAV per share growth in aiding in the mitigation of any future credit losses.

Overall, we believe that maximizing the top end of our deal origination funnel in both markets is critical to generating strong credit performance over time, as it ensures that we consider a wide array of deals, allowing us to employ our conservative underwriting standards in a competitive market, and thoughtfully build a portfolio that will perform through the economic cycle.

We continue to find superior risk adjusted return opportunities in the lower middle market, where we can land at lower leverage and loan to value levels, while maintaining tighter covenants and other terms in the loan documents.

Over the past several quarters this has been especially true as the upper middle market has been a primary source of NAV volatility in our portfolio. Turning to Slide 10, our on-balance sheet credit portfolio, excluding I-45 grew 18% during the quarter to $456 million as compared to $387 million as of the end of the prior quarter.

We continue to heavily emphasize first lien senior secured debt lending. And again this quarter the vast majority of our originations were in the lower middle market.

As of the end of the quarter, we had 81% of our on-balance sheet credit portfolio invested in the lower middle market companies, while having 90% of the credit portfolio in first lien senior secured debt. On Slide 11 we lay out the capital invested in and committed to new lower middle market portfolio companies during the quarter.

This included $86 million in first lien senior secured debt invested in 5 companies and almost $4 million in equity co-investments invested in 3 of them. We also committed $3.3 million of additional capital to 4 existing portfolio companies during the quarter, bringing our total capital deployed for the quarter to over $92 million.

All of the new portfolio company loans were first lien senior secured with one being alone in which a bank lender participated as a first out -- in a first out position. The weighted average yield to maturity on new debt originations funded this quarter was 9.9%.

We are pleased with the pipeline as it stands today and expect that several additional deals currently in diligence should close during the March quarter. Again, a vast majority of this prospective investment activity is in the lower middle market. On Slide 12 we show a summary of the exits during the quarter.

The sale of Media Recovery generated $51 million in net proceeds realizing a gain of $44.3 million and an IRR of 11.8% measured back to the original acquisition in 1997. During the quarter, we also realized a full prepayment of our subordinated debt investment in Chandler Signs.

Chandler is performing well and we remain invested in an equity co-investment position that is appreciated in value since closing. The subordinated debt exit generated an IRR of 14%.

This continues our strong track record of successful exits as we have now had 29 portfolio exits since launching our credit strategy back in January 2015 generating $267 million in proceeds and a cumulative IRR of 15.4%. On Slide 13 we break out our on-balance sheet portfolio excluding I-45 between the lower middle market and the upper middle market.

As of the end of the quarter, the total portfolio including equity co-investments was weighted approximately 83% to the lower middle market and 17% to the upper middle market on a fair value basis.

We had 32 lower middle market portfolio companies with an average hold size of $12.6 million, a weighted average EBITDA of $7.9 million, a weighted average yield of 11.6% and a leverage ratio measured as debt-to-EBITDA through our security of 3.6 times.

Within our lower middle market portfolio, as of the end of the quarter, we held equity ownership in approximately 69% of our portfolio companies.

Our on-balance sheet upper middle market portfolio consisted of 11 companies with an average hold size of $9.2 million, a weighted average EBITDA of $65.2 million, a weighted average yield of 7.4% and a leverage ratio through our security of 4.6 times.

As in the past couple of quarters we should note that our no-balance sheet upper middle market metrics are shown excluding our investment in American Addiction as the EBITDA while improving on a run rate basis remains at a level that would skew the accurate portfolio leverage ratios to a degree that would obscure the ratios of the remainder of the upper middle market portfolio.

American Addiction remains a 3 on our internal rating system and remains on non-accrual, have you been placed on non-accrual during the September 2019 quarter. As a reminder, all investments upon origination are initially assigned an investment rating of 2 on a 4 point scale with 1 being the highest rating and 4 being the lowest rating.

At the end of the quarter out of the 44 loans in the portfolio we had 3 with the highest rating of 1 representing 11% of the credit portfolio at fair value. We had 36 loans rated a 2 representing 84% of the credit portfolio at fair value.

We had 4 loans rated a 3 representing 4% of the credit portfolio at fair value and we had 1 loan rated a 4 which represented 1% of the portfolio at fair value.

The loans rated a 3 in the portfolio all in the upper middle market include American Addiction, American Teleconferencing, which does business as Premier Global and Delphi Intermediate, which does business as Delphi Behavioral Health.

Delphi was downgraded from a 2 to a 3 during the September quarter and joined American Addiction on non-accrual status during the December quarter. Both American Addiction and Delphi are in the business of providing addiction treatment services to patients across the country.

While it would be inappropriate to discuss in detail the status of each company on a public call, I will say that the 2 businesses face similar challenges due in part to the addiction industry increasingly migrating to an in-network insurance reimbursement model.

While this results in reduced reimbursement rates, it also results in a greater opportunity for each company to provide high quality care to a larger number of patients. Due largely to these challenges, cash flow at both companies has decreased materially in the short-term.

That said, we believe that those situations are rapidly moving to balance sheet restructuring. And in both cases, we believe that the restructurings will benefit each company in their respective missions to provide the highest quality care to their patients.

We also believe that these restructurings will provide the respective lender groups the opportunity to realize appreciation in and recovery of their investments as the businesses complete the transition and grow their respective patient basis.

We continue to believe that the challenges facing both companies are addressable and our unrealized depreciation in each is recoverable.

As a result of these restructurings, if and when they occur, we would expect that a portion of Capital Southwest’s first lien loans currently held in each company would be reinstated as first lien debt on each business with the resulting interest in that portion of coming back on accrual.

The remainder of Capital Southwest’s position in each company would then be equity, which we anticipate will be the source of recovery of the unrealized depreciation that exists today. Our loan rated a 4 also in the upper middle market portfolio is AG Kings. The loan has remained on non-accrual for the past several quarters.

Not much has changed with respect to this position, but the lender group continues to work with the company on strategic alternatives for the business. We will attempt to update you on future calls to the extent we can comment on the company status. As illustrated our Slide 14, we have established a portfolio well diversified across industries.

Despite the few idiosyncratic issues we were dealing with in the upper middle market portfolio today, we believe the portfolio is well positioned for late in the economic cycle. Further, our portfolio asset mix should provide strong security for our shareholders’ capital.

The portfolio remains heavily weighted towards first lien senior secured debt with only 6% of the portfolio in second lien senior secured debt and only 2% of the portfolio in subordinated debt investments.

Shown on Slide 15, as of the end of the quarter, the portfolio was 93% first lien with diversity among industries and an average hold price of 2.2% of the portfolio.

The I-45 portfolio had weighted average EBITDA of approximately $65 million, a weighted average coupon of LIBOR plus 6.3% and a weighted average leverage through the I-45 security of 4.5 times. We also excluded American Addiction from these ratios for the aforementioned reasons.

I will now hand the call over to Michael to review the specifics of our financial performance for the quarter. .

Michael Sarner

Thanks Bowen. As seen on Slide 16, our investment portfolio produced $16 million of investment income this quarter, with a weighted average yield on all investments of 10.7%. This represents an increase of approximately $800,000 from the previous quarter.

The increase in investment income was primarily attributable to an increase in average debt investments outstanding and a transaction fee received in connection with the sale of Media Recovery offset by decreases in dividend income from both I-45 and Media Recovery and Delphi being placed on non-accrual during the quarter.

As of the end of the quarter, there were 3 assets on non-accrual with a fair value of $18.2 million representing 3.3% of our total investment portfolio at fair value. The weighted average yield on our credit portfolio was 11.3% for the quarter.

Excluding interest expense, we incurred $4 million in operating expenses for the quarter which was $150,000 less than the previous quarter. For the quarter we earned pre-tax net investment income of $7.9 million or $0.44 per share. This compared to $0.42 per share during the prior quarter.

We paid out $0.40 per share in regular dividends for the quarter flat from $0.40 regular dividend per share paid out in the prior quarter.

We have continued our consistent track record of meaningfully covering our regular dividend with pre-tax NII as demonstrated by our 109% regular dividend coverage over the last 12 months and 108% cumulative regular dividend coverage since the launch of our credit strategy.

As Bowen mentioned earlier, we also paid out a supplemental dividend of $0.10 per share during the quarter. As a reminder, the supplemental dividend program allows our shareholders to meaningfully participate in a successful exit of our investment portfolio through distributions from our UTI balance over time.

Due to the successful sale of MRI, we were able to replenish our UTI balance to a level of $1.48 per share as of December 31, 2019 which we believe provides visibility to the continuation of our supplemental dividend program well into the future.

The program will continue to be funded from UTI earned from realized gains on both debt and equity as well as undistributed net investment income earned each quarter in excess of our regular dividend. In addition, we declared and paid a special dividend of $0.75 per share as we distributed a portion of the realized gain from the Media Recovery sale.

On Slide 17 we illustrate our operating leverage, which as of the end of the quarter was 2.7% which puts us near our initial target operating leverage of sub 2.5%. We are fully committed to actively managing our operating costs in lockstep with portfolio growth and have our longer term sight set on achieving target operating leverage of 2% or better.

With senior professionals and corporate infrastructure largely in place, operating leverage should continue to improve as the investment portfolio grows due to our internally managed structure. Flipping over to Slide 19, the company's NAV per share as of December 31, 2019 with $16.74 as compared to $18.30 at September 30, 2019.

Given the number of moving parts this quarter and the fact that much of the NAV per share change was a reset of NAV per share as a result of the final step in the transition of the BDC to a middle market lender achieved through the sale of Media Recovery, we thought we would take a minute and walk through the components of the quarter-over-quarter change.

Moving from left to right, we continued our strong track record of fully covering our regular dividend with NII earned during the quarter, while systematically distributing our undistributed taxable income over time.

With respect to the investment portfolio, we saw unrealized depreciation in the upper middle market, partially offset by unrealized appreciation in the lower middle market portfolio.

Finally, with respect to the sale of Media Recovery, we paid a special dividend to shareholders of $0.75 per share, distributing a portion of the capital gains from the sale to our shareholders. For the portion of the capital gains we retained, we paid a $0.19 per share tax on the retained capital.

Shareholders will receive a Form 2439 and a letter from us with further explanation of the resulting tax credit and step up on their cost basis, which we expect to be $0.71 per share for shareholders of record as of December 31, 2019. Finally, we recognized book depreciation from the sale of Media Recovery of $0.23 per share.

There were 3 components to the $0.23 per share. First, $0.09 per share was driven by frictional transactional costs from the sale process, including investor banker fees, legal and accounting expenses, and a closing working capital adjustment pursuant to the purchase and sale agreement with the buyer.

Second, $0.08 per share was the gap required book discounts applied to potential earn outs and escrows associated with the company’s sale to account for the fact that each is a future event. If we receive both in full, it will result in Capital Southwest receiving an additional $1.5 million in recognized proceeds from the transaction.

Third, and finally, pursuant to the management services agreement in place between Capital Southwest and Media Recovery, Capital Southwest received a success fee upon closing the sale, which is approximately $0.06 per share. The success fee was recorded as fee revenue rather than sales proceeds for purposes of NII and NAV per share.

Our total pre-tax NII return on equity for the quarter was 9.5%. On Slide 20 we lay out our multiple pockets of capital.

As we’ve mentioned on prior calls, a strategic priority for our company is to continually evaluate approaches to derisk the liability structure of the company, while ensuring that we have adequate investable capital throughout the economic cycle.

To that end we raised an additional $10 million on our October 2024 institutionally placed bond, which had a coupon 5.375%.

As Bowen mentioned earlier, during the quarter ended December 31, 2019 we sold 623,111 shares of Capital Southwest common stock under the Equity ATM Program at a weighted average price of $22.07 per share, raising $13.8 million of gross proceeds.

Cumulative to-date, we have sold 1,313,588 shares of Capital Southwest common stock under the Equity ATM Program at a weighted average price of $22.07, raising $28.7 million of gross proceeds. Our balance sheet leverage ended the quarter at a debt-to-equity ratio of 0.88:1.

We are pleased to report that our liquidity is strong, with significant dry powder and the earliest debt maturity at December 2022. I will now hand the call back to Bowen for some final comments. .

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Michael. And thank you everyone for joining us today. Capital Southwest has grown and the business and portfolio have developed consistent with the vision and strategy we communicated our shareholders 5 years ago.

Our team has done an excellent job building a robust credit portfolio, generating attractive returns for our shareholders, while also demonstrating our extensive credit experience in managing our loan portfolio as it matures and seasons.

Everyone here at Capital Southwest is totally dedicated to being good stewards of our shareholders’ capital by continuing to deliver strong performance and creating long-term sustainable shareholder value. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are ready to open the lines for Q&A..

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from the line of Tim Hayes from B. Riley. FBR. Your line is now open..

Tim Hayes

And congrats on officially completing the portfolio transition. My first question, Bowen, would you just mind expanding on your decision to raise the regular quarterly dividend? On an after-tax basis, NII was a little bit lower than the $0.40 regular dividend this quarter, and I know you had the excise tax accrual.

But you also had the onetime success fee that drove investment income higher. Growth is really strong, but is this a case where it was back-end weighted and you expect growth will have a much more profound impact on next quarter's results? Just any color around this would be helpful..

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure. Thanks for the question. It's all of those things. And so let me -- I'm going to let Michael comment on the components. .

Michael Sarner

Sure, sure. So I think looking at the 12/31 run rate, if you exclude the non-recurring MRI fees, were about 1.7 million and then you add back the impact of the 85 million in originations during the quarter for a full quarter’s accrual, our run rate for the 12/31 quarter would be $0.40 per share.

So that doesn't include looking forward originations that have closed this quarter to-date or that will close between now and the end of quarter. .

Tim Hayes

Okay. Got it. That's helpful. And then as it relates to Delphi, what exactly triggered the company being added to non-accrual this quarter.

Was there new information you gathered, which increased the likelihood of impairment? Or did they actually stop paying interest and/or principal on the loan?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

So, they stopped paying interest on the loan, so it's picking but not going through our income statement. So it's not non-accrual but it's just basically deterioration of EBITDA. And so based on that and the fact that we weren't receiving cash interest, we made the judgment call to put it on non-accrual. .

Michael Sarner

As Bowen said, Tim, it was picked into the principal balance and I think Bowen discussed the potential restructuring, so that value will be part of that restructuring process. .

Tim Hayes

Right.

And that was, I guess my follow up question on that was, can you maybe -- I know this might be difficult to answer, but is there just any rough timeline around the restructuring process that you can give us?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I would say that like I said in my prepared remarks, both of them are rapidly moving in that direction. So, I'd say you probably should expect that Delphi probably gets done faster than AAC. It's a little simpler given it’s private and AAC is public.

But they're both moving on a pretty quick timeline and that's going to be good -- like I said in my prepared remarks, that's going to be good for both companies because ultimately the companies exist to provide high quality healthcare to their patients, and that's what's going to ultimately support the capital structure.

So -- but the pace is fairly quick in both cases. .

Tim Hayes

Okay.

And then on the $9 million of net depreciation on upper middle market investment, how much of this was the JV and was it largely -- were the marks largely fundamental and related to company performance? Or were there any technical factors that drove these fair value marks?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

So it's about half and half between the JV and balance sheet. And at the JV -- or I should say on the balance sheet -- a 5.4 on the balance sheet of depreciation and that's -- if you looked at the 4 companies that I mentioned, we talked about the depreciation between those 4, it's $5.4 million.

So all the other companies were kind of pluses and minuses. And then on the I-45, it was $4.5 million of total depreciation and $3.2 million of that is essentially 4 credits, including AAC.

The 4 credits in I-45 that I would say are having credit or operational challenges and then that's 4 out of 46 loans, the other 42 loans are either doing fine, doing great or just kind of bumping along. So the equity guys are working very hard to get their returns, but the loans themselves are probably fine.

But there's 4 out of 46 that are having some level of conversations and operational challenges. I hope that kind of gives you some general color..

Tim Hayes

Yes. It does. Thanks.

And just broadly would you say -- how would you describe kind of sponsor behavior? Are they being supportive in working with companies -- distressed companies to try to restructure investments or just inject liquidity to help for a better outcome? Are you seeing sponsors kind of ditch some of the, I don't want to call them losers, but ones that are struggling a little bit more and focusing on winners or maybe you could just draw some color on that would be helpful?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, so I think sponsors are making for the most part smart informed decisions and not just throwing good money after bad. So across our portfolio over the last year, year and a half timeframe, when we have the vast majority of the time sponsors have supported the companies. And that's a rational thing for them to do in every one of those instances.

There are a couple of them one in particular, where the sponsors made the decision to hand the keys over to the first lien lender i.e. restructured balance sheet as I referenced earlier.

And so in that case, I think that was probably a rational decision and the right thing to do for the business, and frankly, the right thing to do for the senior lenders. And So -- but I'd say generally, I think we've seen sponsors make smart decisions, but in virtually every case, that right decision was to support the business.

And frankly, keep the first lien lenders happy, which is what we want them doing..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mickey Schleien from Ladenburg. Your line is now open..

Mickey Schleien

I wanted to ask about deal flow.

I've been hearing that the volatility in the more liquid markets in the fourth calendar quarter led larger borrowers to gravitate toward direct lenders instead of the syndicated market, and that caused larger lenders including larger BDCs to focus more on bigger deals, and that may have resulted in more opportunities for smaller BDCs.

Was that a trend that you saw and did that impact your deal flow during the quarter?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, we certainly saw a slowdown of general activity in the syndicated market. So that'll be consistent with that comment and we’ve looked at some larger club deals, which I think is also consistent with that. But as a general matter, the number of upper middle market deals that we've been excited about has been low.

And so -- and hence you see, I-45 not growing because it's been -- capital has been refinanced and a low number of new deals really that we've been looking at in that fund. So activity in I-45 is slow -- slower, so you can see that there. But I would say, virtually everything you just said was certainly consistent with what we're seeing. .

Mickey Schleien

And I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks that at least so far the first calendar quarter looks pretty busy. And that's usually a slow quarter.

So is there something specific going on this quarter, that that's leading to that volume? Or is it just spillover from deals that just didn't get done in the fourth quarter?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, the lower middle market honestly is, as I've always said it's lumpy and it's frankly kind of random. And so I would say that if you look across our pipeline and I look down the list and I see deals that we've signed up and that we're -- that they're essentially I would say are ours if we want them, kind of category, it's above average.

And so, the December quarter was obviously very strong quarter of originations, but they’re quarter or two below -- before that were below average. And so I mean if I look at I'm just thinking our line of deals that we're working on, I wouldn't say that it's albeit strains that I’ve were working on in the March quarter. So it's a little bit random.

I would just say that the pipeline this quarter is above average. It may not be last quarter's volume, but it's going to be -- we would expect it to be above average and probably closing towards the latter half of the quarter. .

Mickey Schleien

Okay. I appreciate that. And just a follow up on AAC and I know you're limited as to what you can say. But there has been news about the extension of the forbearance agreement and some additional capital provided by the lenders.

Did you participate in that additional injection of capital into AAC?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We did, I mean our, our piece is small because there's was a $400 million loan that we all split the incremental capital so that our dollars are small, but we participated in it and that incremental capital has very outsized economics and so it’s directly first priority secured by the real estate.

And frankly other people are going to put it in if we don't. So it’s the rational thing to do. But fortunately the numbers for us are relatively small. .

Mickey Schleien

Okay.

And I just wanted to confirm there is real estate in the collateral, correct?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

That's correct. .

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Joseph from Jefferies. .

Kyle Joseph

Hey, good morning guys and thanks for taking my questions. Most have been answered, but I just wanted to get a sense, it sounds like the lower middle market continues to be very attractive and you're maybe a little disappointed with some of the investments in the upper middle market.

I want to get a sense of what's driving that [AR], is it -- have you seen things in the upper middle market get more competitive? Yes, can you explain the discrepancy there?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. I mean if you look at our -- if you have just kind of break it into components, I mean there's $5.4 million of depreciation in the upper middle market. That's if you take the depreciation on Delphi, AAC and AG King and add those together, it's $5.4 million. So that's the story in the upper middle market.

And frankly, the credit guy, I look at myself and go, we just made bad choices on those loans. I mean those loans we wish we hadn't done them.

They were structured, well, the structure -- the restructure is going to work out fine in the long run, but certainly we wish we'd never made those loans right? I mean but that's -- it’s not a zero defect business. And so those are -- that's the upper middle market story so far.

We do think, that loan as we've really referenced really pretty consistently over the last several years, the upper middle market is the market where it is more competitive. There is more people willing to win to larger companies. And so you have higher leverage ratios on average, higher loan to value on average, lower yields on average across.

And so when there's a problem, you have less degrees of freedom. So that's the nature of the upper middle market. So as far as getting more competitive versus less competitive, it's kind of in that way for certainly a few years now. On the lower middle market side, our story is different.

I mean we have $370 million loan portfolio depreciated by $140,000 this quarter. So it's basically flat. And then our lower middle market equity portfolio appreciated by $2.9 million.

And so -- that portfolio is working as designed, first lien with equity co-investments and those equity co-investments -- the winners are far outpacing any depreciation in the equity portfolio and so it's working like as designed..

Kyle Joseph

That's a good segue to my next question.

So as you think about the pipeline between upper and lower middle market -- or I guess this is kind of a 3 part question, but talk about yield trends you're seeing in the upper and lower middle market and what that means for your portfolio more broadly?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, I'd say that the sandbox, if you will, or loans in the lower middle market yields are basically generally the same.

And I think generally the same and there's a range of deals within a market, right? So you have loans that are very high margin, recurring revenue type businesses, where we're making a relatively low loan to value kind of loan and those are going to have a tighter spread.

It may be sponsored, right? So that's going to have a tighter spread in a deal that has a maybe a slightly higher loan to value, maybe less recurring based business, maybe a sponsor that's not as large of a fund or maybe that had specific sector expertise as the other, not that those are negatives but that would be one of the higher yield deal.

So there's going to be ranges of yields. And so if you look forward quarter-to-quarter, we're going to do some of -- all of that, as we move to target leverage, our cost of capital is coming down. And frankly, if we lever up the BDC, one should expect it we do safer deals.

And so you may move from one edge of that same sandbox to the other edge of that sandbox. But I would say that over the last several quarters. I don't -- I really haven't seen the sandbox itself move all that much. I mean it's been competitive for a long time.

And the upper middle market has been more competitive than the lower middle market for a long time. A long time, meaning, couple of years. I mean, it's been the same thing. But we don't see like this quarter, we didn't see the sandbox as I defined it change all that much. .

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bryce Rowe from National Security. Your line is now open..

Bryce Rowe

Hey, Michael, I wanted to ask you about the source of dividend income here. This quarter, obviously you had I-45 dividend.

But curious what the other portion of that dividend income was?.

Michael Sarner

Sure. The other portion was a sub dividend from MRI for about 500,000 that was paid out of the proceeds before close. .

Bryce Rowe

Okay. And then Bowen, you talk about the pipeline being maybe above average and can be quite random in terms of the lower middle market. I'm curious what you're seeing from maybe a repayment visibility perspective.

Obviously, this prior quarter was dominated by the proceeds from MRI, but just wondering if you have any visibility to repayments over the next quarter or two?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, I'm just thinking -- I'm looking at Michael thinking about that and I think prepayments are kind of obviously they're kind of a constant aspect of our business model, but we don't really have large like right now visibility on large prepayments coming into next quarter or two.

I mean that we maybe one phone call away from seeing that some of our companies, but we don't have any -- prepayments, I would expect the prepayments over the next quarter to be in the lower middle market certainly relatively light. .

Michael Sarner

And we did have 2 what we call A plus performers that there a potential for refinancing existed. And I think we've worked through that where we're going to stay on as a lender. So that's part of the reason we say we don't see any visibility right now for additional repayments. .

Bryce Rowe

Okay.

And then if you guys can -- I don't know if you can speak to this or not, the earn out that you mentioned with MRI, what, what kind of timeframe are we talking about there?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

So the earn-out will be tested on a 9/30, 2020 fiscal year that's MRI fiscal year basis, so with earnings performance for that year. .

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher York from JMP Securities. Your line is now open. .

Christopher York

Good afternoon guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So Michael or Bowen, I noticed a decent pickup in the weighted average leverage to your security in upper middle market investments of about to turn from 3.7 to 4.6.

So could you maybe just a comment on what drove that big increase?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, thanks. It's all Delphi basically. So if you take Delphi out, the 4.6 is 3.6. .

Christopher York

Very good. Okay.

And then in I-45 we also have a decent increase there and I would have to look at the Q, so I've Delphi in I-45 as well?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

No, it's not. So the leverage on I-45 went from 4.3 last quarter to 4.5. During the quarter, we had $9.3 million paid down or prepaid on companies where the leverage was mid 2.5 times EBITDA basis because of the performance.

And we put 2 credits on that were new deals, new issues and they were kind of in the low 4 times, like 4.2 to 4.3 type of leverage. And so that's basically the change. .

Christopher York

Okay. And then I see the I-45 dividend decrease for $100,000 sequentially.

Now given the decline in the portfolio there, is this a level of recurring dividend that we should be expecting to continue?.

Michael Sarner

Yes, based upon the number of credits that are in the portfolio right now and the cash yield, I think the 2.1 is a good run rate number going forward. .

Christopher York

Okay.

And then maybe taking a step back, given the competition that you described Bowen in the upper middle market, losses you've experienced here in the upper middle market, has this caused you to reconsider the dual pronged strategy or allocating capital between the strategies?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

No, I mean, our strategy from the beginning has been core market lower than the market, opportunistic market, upper middle market. And so, right now it's very competitive.

I think I’ve said in really over the last couple of years, I mean finding value in the upper middle market has been certainly much more challenging in our view than finding value from a credit perspective in the lower middle market, so -- or said differently risk adjusted returns. And so I don't -- that strategy hasn't changed.

And so, given what I just said, our core business and lower middle market, we had a lot of -- our deal teams have done a great job of originating deals. We’re kind of cracking -- closing about 2% of the deals we look at. So, they've done a great job originating opportunities for us to look at.

And so there's still -- I look at that I'm like, okay, there's demand for our lower middle market, our balance sheet in the lower market and value is more challenging to find in the upper middle market.

Doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, I mean I mentioned earlier we did 2 deals this quarter, so it’s not like it doesn't exist, our 2 deals in I-45, but it's just more challenging. So that hasn't changed. I mean now we've got 3 -- couple of situations that in the upper middle market that are obviously credit challenged and being restructured.

That's just noise thrown on top of the strategy statement that I laid out. But the strategy I wouldn't say has changed. But where we're putting on money and where we're allocating capital is going to ebb and flow based on the risk adjusted returns we see in those markets.

So I still think it's important for us to maintain certainly the lower middle market. And we’ve talked quite a bit about why we like the lower middle market. So we want to maintain the ability to look at and consider and evaluate the upper middle market, because we do think there's opportunities.

And as we've always said, when things move in the market, the upper middle market moves from a quote perspective, it doesn't necessarily immediately result in assets you can buy. But it certainly moves around with Wall Street Journal, if you will. And so it's going to be opportunistic for us in the future.

So we're going to still continue to look at it, maintain that capability, maintain those contacts in the market. But it's just -- right now it's just -- it's harder to find value if you will in that market..

Christopher York

And then last one from me, it's maybe a two part question. But when you said that, you may have not made some of these upper middle market investments, if you were approached to potentially invest today.

Maybe could you describe some of the characteristics that led you to say that? And then secondly, what gives you such confidence that there is recoverable value in some of the unrecognized depreciation given that your ability to control the outcome as part of a syndicate is less than the [indiscernible] like deal?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. So first of all, anytime you make an investment or an investor buy the stock, it doesn't go on value, you might question you wished you never done it, right? So that's a general comment.

I would say with respect to those industries, I mean the addiction treatment industry, which is most of the story here, right? So we'll talk -- I'll come back to Kings in a minute. But the addiction, industry, unfortunately, the opioid and drug epidemic in this country is growing. And I think we all would agree on that.

And it certainly is not a positive. But people need help and in lives are being saved in that industry. So it is an industry that unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your perspective is growing. But with that comes increased cost. And so payers have to bear that burden.

And so the industry is moving -- making a transition from out-of-network in network. Both of these businesses have had a portion of their business out-of-network. And then there's a number of different challenges, management or otherwise, but that's a large piece of it.

And so, do I wish we never invested in the addiction treatment industry? No, I can't say that. I mean, one of my former -- one of my better investments I made in my former firm was in the addiction treatment business. And so, we like that industry. We think it gets to your recoverability question.

I mean these are viable platforms we still believe, and certainly, I suppose theoretically that could change, but we think these are viable platforms in a growing industry that is going through a transition. So I still view certainly the vast majority of that, if not all of that unrealized depreciation should be recoverable.

And so -- and that's kind of why I said that. And so, no, I don't think that addiction industry is a horrible place to invest and all that. It's just -- it's those factors I just laid out. And then on the grocery side, the grocery business is a very competitive business. I mean we know that. I mean people don't stop eating and so that's good.

There's always a chance -- there's always a -- it’s a consumer staple type product. But it's one that’s increasingly larger and larger competitors, they are opening up stores in more and more geographies. And so it's just that pace is moving faster than frankly we anticipated several years ago when we made that loan.

And so, that's -- that unrealized appreciation is going to be harder to recover and that's why it's a 4, not a 3. And so it's a different situation. Not super excited about making any other grocery loans quite frankly.

So hopefully you're hearing a different answer to that question than with respect to addiction -- the addiction treatment space, all three are challenged situations, no question about it, but the two industries are very different. .

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Dodd from Raymond James. Your line is now open. .

Robert Dodd

Hi guys. Just some quick housekeeping ones I think on MRI and then a couple of more detailed ones. Michael, you mentioned earlier in the call $1.7 million success fee from -- or related to MRI it's like non-recurring.

I presume that $1.7 million includes the 0.5 million dividend because otherwise it'd be more than your total fee income?.

Michael Sarner

That’s right. $1.16 million for the success fee and it was approximately $500,000 for the sub dividend..

Robert Dodd

And then, on the form, if I got the number right, the 2429, I know I'm going to get questions about this, but when can your shareholders expect that?.

Michael Sarner

I think we should have that in the next week, it has full description as the definition of the deemed distribution will describe the tax, the long-term gain and tax treatment. It'll help them provide the information to their tax advisors to get it done correctly. .

Robert Dodd

Got it. And then the last one.

On the 27.6 million in undistributed income, that's adjusted for the deemed distribution, right, the amount you were taking?.

Michael Sarner

Yes, that's correct. .

Robert Dodd

So just going to I-45 and looking at that level, I mean the portfolio obviously over the few last year -- and I’m looking at page 15, which it's very helpful, it’s shrunk a little bit. Leverage has gone up. You mentioned you had some low leverage repayments. Should we have some good assets -- or you’re successful as we pay.

Should we be worried given the leverage has gone up 1 point over the course of the year, while it's shrinking. But that there's any adverse selection going on in that portfolio about what the remaining borrowers are? I mean obviously the more successful a borrower, the more likely they are to repay early and get out of a portfolio.

And when the portfolio is shrinking, do you end up with a mix that you might not have wanted upfront?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, I think clearly as any portfolio and certainly a loan portfolio, the ones that outperform, leverage goes down, gets repaid earlier. So then it just academically by definition the lesser quality credits are the ones that's in the portfolio.

So having said that, as I look across the loan portfolio, it's really kind of 4 or 5 loans that I would say that are kind of companies are going through operational issues of those being AAC, but the other ones aren't on our balance sheet. They're just unique to I-45, which is the bulk of the depreciation.

And so -- and that's also affecting the leverage as well. And so, I would say, other than just, yes, from a high level, the portfolio, the better quality loans payoff faster and then get recycled in newer loans and some of the older loans but it doesn't mean that what's left is a disaster.

But I think that I'm agreeing with your general comment, but I'm telling you that then we don't think that's like a dramatic issue of I-45..

Robert Dodd

And then on the lower middle market, I mean very strong originations in the quarter and as you said earlier, it could be lumpy.

But have you seen anything out in the market on the lower middle market in terms of the borrowers or the company owners, is the ask on what they're looking for shifted any that makes the deals maybe slightly more appealing to you?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, I mean, there's a lot of variables, right? I mean, the ask -- when I say the ask I mean every industry is different, right? Every industry, every company is different. So the different profit levels, the industries have different profit drivers, economic -- there are different levels of sensitivity to the economic cycle.

And so, we look at it and go is the ask appropriate for our view of that industry and that company.

I mean I don't think that sponsors are quite given for a given -- I mean, they always ask, there are varying levels of aggressive behavior from sponsors, right? Some sponsors were very aggressive, they want the last nickel of leverage, and other sponsors are much more measured, because ultimately most of their IRR is good be driven by the operational improvements they provide in that business and less by the financial engineering.

We do better with the second, the latter category, it’s not surprising. Again, it's more -- it’s general, it's the same comments I made with respect to the sandbox and leverage in pricing, I mean, the sandbox I don't think has changed. But as we can play in different portions of the sandbox, if you will.

And certainly as we move up in leverage, bringing our cost of capital down, it allows us to compete and put assets on the books at generally an attractive ROE to our shareholders, which is ultimately what's important in maybe a safer side of the sandbox, if that makes sense..

Robert Dodd

If I can own that size question one more. The target of getting operating leverage sub 2.5 and obviously it's been trending down and then you increasing returns to shareholders.

I mean not necessarily what time, when do you think you can get that? But so much is -- what do you think your asset level needs to be for that sustainably for that OpEx ratio to be sub 2.5?.

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Honestly, Robert, I’d tell you that we think we can achieve it. I'll give you the timing and the amount, I think we can achieve it in the next two quarters and I think the amounts can be in somewhere close to 650 million of assets on balance sheet. .

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I’m showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Bowen Diehl for closing remarks. .

Bowen Diehl President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you operator. And thanks everybody for joining us today and thanks to all the analysts that asked us the questions. Those were great questions and we appreciate everybody's support and look forward to giving you updates as we move forward. .

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..

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